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Should I go for Verizon touch pro 2 or something else??

Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys

duke911 said:
Hi
I'm new to the US, and I'm not familiar with the wireless companies system here..
I have some question:
1. Which service provider is better? I'll be living in Berkeley, CA?? I keep hearing that At&T has bad reception.. which one should I go for??
2. The 30$ data plan: all companies say that this plan is unlimited, but I keep reading (at least for Verizon) it's 5 GB/month.. is this true?? and are there any companies that offer real unlimited data plan...
Because I was thinking of using my phone as a modem for my PC, I don't want to pay more 30-40$ for DSL if I already have a true unlimited data plan
3. Roll over minutes: does this apply only to AT&t, or all carriers?
Thanks in advance guys
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I just left AT&T due to extremely poor customer service. AT&T is the only carrier that offers rollover minutes, but their 3G coverage is spotty, and when switching from 3G to Edge or vise versa, you will experience a lot of dropped calls. If you want to use your phone as a modem with AT&T you have to get a tethering plan which will run you $60/month. Verizon has a much larger 3G coverage area, and you don't have to worry about the network being burdened by iPhone users. Sprint has rolled out 4G coverage in some areas with plans to expand. Sprint has cheaper calling plans, but their subsidized phone prices are higher. All in all, do your research, and check online for reviews of coverage, network speed, and customer service.

1. reception obviously varies by location. VZW probably has the best claim to the best nationwide coverage--their business model has very much focused on network building, and up until very recently, their phone selection sucked because they didn't invest as much in securing great smartphones. Alternatively, ATT has focused investment heavily on having great phones, and haven't focused investment as much on building any of their networks.
That said, ATT has great phone reception in a lots of metropolitan areas. There might even be some areas where they have better coverage. And while their 3G data coverage isn't nearly as broad, where it exists, it has been tested as being the fastest (especially when you're not using an iPhone).
2. No, all wireless carriers have a cap of some kind. Further most will charge an extra $30ish a month on top of the $30ish a month for smartphone data for tethering (using your phone as a modem), and they'll still have a data cap.
3. I don't know VZW's plans.

ive been with ATT for YEARS and their costumer service can kiss my ass because i never use it. why? because they offer best reception where im at. why would i want to find out how good t-mobiles costumer service is? i just want a reliable network. all carriers have crappy prices and conditions here. just find the one that works for you and dont listen to what anyone else says. why would you care if verizon has 3g in montana and att doesnt if you live in LA?? its irrelevant. find the least crappy one for you and stick with it.

Do some research on the difference between CDMA and GSM networks. One may work better than another in certain situations.
T-Mobile has cheap rate plans and free tethering.
Sprint has a WiMax network rolling out, although all of the carriers are working on LTE or some other standard of 4G- Not really a concern at this point, since few phones support it.
Verizon has the best customer satisfaction ratings, but their phones are often locked down with software.
AT&T has a history of dropping calls, but has the fastest recorded data speeds.
No matter whom you may chose, you will end up disappointed over some facet or another. You will need to get DSL or some other form of land-based internet, unless you can keep yourself constrained to the 5GB data caps that ALL of the carriers have.

I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers

duke911 said:
I guess I'm gonna go with verizon then..
I asked a Veizon representative today about the Touch Pro 2, and he said it's only CDMA ... although on their websitethey say it's GSM Quad Band!!! Is there anything that I'm missing?
Will I be able to use out side the US if travel home?
cheers
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Yeah, it's kind of misleading. The Verizon Touch Pro2 is actually a CDMA/GSM hybrid device, which works on Verizon's CDMA network or any GSM network. In theory, you should be able to use it on any GSM network in any country as long as you have a valid SIM card.

you cant trust advertising. it makes it appear that all options are shiney. verizon claims all of its wireless technologies as 3g no matter what they are, whether they have speeds slower than atts 2g or worse. the verizon touch pro will not actually work in the us or canada on gsm. you also need to pay for vodofone service separately to get international coverage. you can flash a radio that will let you use atts network but youll loose the cdma network verizon uses. sprints 4g network is not as promising as i hoped. its slower than atts 3g network and to use it you have to buy a $10 1-day pass that will let you use 4g in about 10 or so cities. its also not on any phones. in terms of data or unlimited plans, i would probably have to recommend t-mobile. even though i think they have the ugliest version of the touch pro 2. verizon does limit there unlimited plans to 4gb a month i think. and yes att is the only one with roll over. i never use my minutes so i up to about 10000 minutes rolled over. i will never be charged overage as long as i live.

I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
So I signed up with Verizon, which did not even sell phones within a hundred miles of where I would be using it. That was in March of 2007. I went to Alaska for 16 months where it roamed constantly. Not a peep from Verizon about not being on their network. When going to a remote village for more than a month where no cell phone would work, I would just call them and they would suspend my phone for the time I was there. No bill at all and no charge for turning it off. So I have to say the customer support from Verizon is the best there is and ATT is the absolute worst.

texascbx said:
I was with ATT when they were known as Cingular for three years. One day I got a call and they said I was using it off their network too much and I had to stop it or they would cancel me. Since I was not even living in their area, it was not going to happen.
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they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.

The Jack of Clubs said:
they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
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Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.

thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that.
I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)?
I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
Cheers

duke911 said:
thanks a lot for your help guys, I really appreciae that. I have one final question: Is there a way I can buy verizon touch pro 2 without a contract, and use it with verizon prepaid service (if that is possible in te first place)? I'm new here and I don't have many people to speak with, and since I'm a student, I could use any some extra money
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I purchased my VZW off contract. Unsubsidized is probably about $500.
Different carriers have different rules for their prepaid services. With GSM carriers, TMo and ATT, it's easy to pop a prepaid sim into any phone. With CDMA (Sprint and VZW), I'm not sure. Best bet is to call and ask.

well i had sprint for ever...I switched to tmobile.. to get that tp2 free through wmdeals.com even though coverage sucks at my house im happy.. I have wifi for data when im home.. when i leave my home i have edge service everwhere.. til i start getting close to mesquite ( texas ) it goes to 3g.. but edge works great with opera mini.. and for updating certain things.. but so far tmobile rocks..

The Jack of Clubs said:
they wouldnt say something like that. the entire gsm network is theirs.
btw att, verizon, and sprint all have horrible customer service. youre going to always loose with any provider.
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That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.

I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
anyway... I like really the verizon version of the Touch Pro 2..
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
I never used CDMA before, and after reading some info, I think GSM is better for me, at least for now...

duke911 said:
I called Verizon today, and the representative said that I can't use their prepaid service on a smart phone... although I'm not really sure about, as she sounded clueless, and I had to do lots of explanation until she got the basic idea..
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You never know with reps. I seem to recall that VZW's prepaid might have some unlimited data intended for dumbphones, which of course they wouldn't want you to use with a smartphone.
There are MVNOs, like Page Plus, that use VZW's network, but have prepaid plans where they probably wouldn't be concerned about smartphone usage (pay per kb instead of unlimited).
If I go for month-to-month and get it for full retail (490$).. can I cancel with Verizon after that, and unlock my phone, then use it with some other network like T-mobile or At&T????
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You can get it unlocked here and use it on ATT or TMo (minus 3g, 2g data still works), and as to whether you can cancel after the fact without penalty, it depends on exactly what you signed up for at VZW.

texascbx said:
That's where you are wrong. They did cancel me and one of my brothers living in another town shortly after I got the call and letter. The explanation was they had contracts with other providers to cover you when your were roaming. And roaming was fine, as long as you did not do it too much. I roamed all the time, for about three years.
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fortunz said:
Last I checked, Tmobile's network isn't owned by ATT.
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well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.

The Jack of Clubs said:
well then double check because att hardware can not utilize tmobile 1700 band. if you in the country you are never going to use another carriers network. and roaming only applies to out of country. even if you stand anywhere on the canadian or mexican borders, you wont be charged roaming. the system isnt that fd up.
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Well, that's not entirely true. AT&T devices can use T-Mobile's network, just not HSPA (3G), and vice versa. Before I got my 8925, my main phone was an old T-Mobile Blackberry 7200 which I unlocked to use on AT&T. It could make phone calls and browse at EDGE speeds just fine. The 3G bands are f*cked up internationally since they often differ by country and carrier, but the EDGE and basic GSM bands are pretty much compatible with any GSM phone (since most GSM phones are Tri-band or Quad-band capable).
In addition, it's perfectly possible to use another network in the same country. If a company like AT&T doesn't have infrastructure in a remote area and wants to add service there, they'll often strike a deal with a local carrier who does. It's usually a seamless transition for the user, and it doesn't generally cost the user a cent. Rather, AT&T is the one paying the local cellular operator for allowing the AT&T customers use the local carrier's network as opposed to the alternative of having no coverage in that area. AT&T got mad at texascbx because he was costing AT&T money by roaming on these local carriers, which AT&T had to pay.
Lastly, I know people who live near the borders and they always are careful to see which operator they are using. One of them lives near the Mexican border, and has to make sure he's on AT&T's network before he makes a call. If he doesn't check, he might be roaming on the TelMex network and will get billed outrageous fees for a simple call, even though he's in the US.

I was at the mall today, and I talked to a T-Mobile guy, and he said I can get the T-mobile version of touch pro 2 for full retail, and I can use it with their prepaid plan without any porblems.
Then I spoke with a Verizon representative, and he said that I can't do that on their network, however I can buy the device with out a contract and without any plan...
So my Final question (and I guess fortunz answered before,but I still feel like asking coz I don't want to through 500$ away)... If I get the Verizon Touch Pro 2, and get it unlocked here
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578642
will I be able to use it with any carrier?? prepaid or plan??
I don't really mind about the data, as I'll be using WiFi mainly
Thanks a lot

from iPhone 4S unlimited data sim to S3 no 4G LTE

hi guys! i recently purchase a slightly used S3 i747 originally att. i came from an iphone 4S and still have my iphone unlimited data plan. i have noticed that im only getting 3g and h speeds. how do i get the 4g lte speeds? do i need to call att CS to get my plan changed or do i just change my apn setttings? Im rooted and has ktoonz rom. also noticed that i have the correct apn settings. tried to choose 4G LTE but i dont get data when i select it.
Thanks in advance.

not to sound condescending, but
1.) check imei (in the dialer *#06#) to ensure it is valid
2.) looks like you are in Montaray, there is no LTE coverage there per AT&T's map. doesnt look too far away though.
hope this helps

You might not be able to get LTE without a new sim card. I was reading somewhere that the iPhone sims don't work properly with LTE and will only allow HSPA+. I forget where I read this, so I could be wrong.

Sounds like a SIM problem, plus not being in an LTE area. I came from an iPhone 4 and had to change SIM's for the Note but asked to keep the microSIM in case I wanted to go back.

You need to get your plan changed. Call AT&T. You do NOT have to loose your unlimted though. I did the same thing, and got no 4g until I did that ( assuming it's in your area at all ).

I switched from a GS2 (3G) to a GS3 and all I had to do was walk into an AT&T store to tell them my situation. They set me up free of charge with my "unlimited" grandfathered data plan. Note: you can use up to 5gb before getting throttled by At&t with the updated 4g plan!

rkennison said:
You need to get your plan changed. Call AT&T. You do NOT have to loose your unlimted though. I did the same thing, and got no 4g until I did that ( assuming it's in your area at all ).
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This guy has it. Be sure to thank him. ATT can differentiate speeds based on your plan, and the iphone has no LTE so they aren't allowed access to the network.

What everyone said is correct. I work for an AT&T so I deal with the same stuff. First off check if you have LTE coverage in your area. Most areas are still red for LTE. Nearest to me is Baton Rouge in Louisiana. I got 60MB/S while on it compaired to an Iphone who got 4 hahahaha .
Second check AT&T and see if your IMEI is set to the s3. If you still have the iphone imei on your account iphone data is only 3g.
Third (optional) replace your sim card. Most sim cards right now are 3g and aren't compatible with the LTE network. Sim cards are like a penny to replace at a corporate AT&T.
Hope this helps and goodluck. I hope you guys get a taste of the LTE network its sickening. Everything loads soo fast.
What was said earlier above also is true. Your unlimited data stays with you. Don't let someone tell you else wise. Once you lose unlimited data you can not get it back. I had a customer accidentally get rid of theirs and it was HELL to get it back for them and countless arguments on customer support.

rkennison said:
You need to get your plan changed. Call AT&T. You do NOT have to loose your unlimted though. I did the same thing, and got no 4g until I did that ( assuming it's in your area at all ).
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call the CS they changed my provision from iphone plan to 4g lte plan. payments will be the same. they also told me that i need to to to my local att store to get a new 4g lte sim.

thanks for all the replies. took care of it by getting a new sim and changing my data provisions.

rkennison said:
You need to get your plan changed. Call AT&T. You do NOT have to loose your unlimted though. I did the same thing, and got no 4g until I did that ( assuming it's in your area at all ).
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TBayTom said:
I switched from a GS2 (3G) to a GS3 and all I had to do was walk into an AT&T store to tell them my situation. They set me up free of charge with my "unlimited" grandfathered data plan. Note: you can use up to 5gb before getting throttled by At&t with the updated 4g plan!
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Good to hear it, OP. And yep, I had the same issue coming from a 4S to the S3 and the advice above is correct. I'm still a grandfathered unlimited user (although I don't have LTE in my area yet). BTW, the best thing about this? What TBayTom noted...that you now get a 5gb cap since you're on a LTE plan (as opposed to 3gb if you're not). :good:

AT&T iPhone 4S ---> Note II, without changing data plan?

I want to switch from an iPhone 4S to the note II (international or at&t) by swapping sim cards. Can this be done with data working? I tried it with a galaxy sII skyrocket LTE, and data did not work at all. I expected at least 3G and HSDPA+.
Talked to AT&T and they said I have to change the data plan. But google searches have revealed that I should be able to switch without calling them and at least get 3G/HSDPA data.
Anyone have any insight?

okashira said:
I want to switch from an iPhone 4S to the note II (international or at&t) by swapping sim cards. Can this be done with data working? I tried it with a galaxy sII skyrocket LTE, and data did not work at all. I expected at least 3G and HSDPA+.
Talked to AT&T and they said I have to change the data plan. But google searches have revealed that I should be able to switch without calling them and at least get 3G/HSDPA data.
Anyone have any insight?
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you can get 3g but you won't get lte since the 4S isn't LTE. You just need the correct APNs. Try wap.cingular, or phone. I stopped changing my plan cause I switched too often and hated all the stupid prorations

okashira said:
I want to switch from an iPhone 4S to the note II (international or at&t) by swapping sim cards. Can this be done with data working? I tried it with a galaxy sII skyrocket LTE, and data did not work at all. I expected at least 3G and HSDPA+.
Talked to AT&T and they said I have to change the data plan. But google searches have revealed that I should be able to switch without calling them and at least get 3G/HSDPA data.
Anyone have any insight?
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I'm not understanding your goal. I had an unlimited data plan for my iPhone $30/mo. When I upgraded my phone to SGN2, I now have the data plan for LTE unlimited at $30/mo as a grandfathered data plan.
Of couse this plan is acually throttled now (after 5GB?), but it is, what it is. Same Family phone plan, same price, similar data plan, same price.

ZedZardoz said:
I'm not understanding your goal. I had an unlimited data plan for my iPhone $30/mo. When I upgraded my phone to SGN2, I now have the data plan for LTE unlimited at $30/mo as a grandfathered data plan.
Of couse this plan is acually throttled now (after 5GB?), but it is, what it is. Same Family phone plan, same price, similar data plan, same price.
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I need to do it without changing the plan. I think we have the answer though... change the APN. I will update when I get a chance to try it,

Changing the APN worked. Got HSDPA+. AT&T lied to me, not suprisingly.
Guess I might as well buy the international note II, since I wont be using LTE, unless there is some other advantage to the AT&T note II?

Not really. Just an fyi, if you switch off ios make sure to turn off I message or your friends will see blue before green
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also even though u are on an unlimited plan my understanding is they will throttle u after a certain ammount.

If it was my money, I wouldn't be using AT&T.

As you've already experienced, AT&T reps are under no obligation to tell you the truth, time and time again. I've swapped my sim between many 3g phones with nary a phone call over the years.
I think the only advantage to getting an AT&T Note 2 is when you migrate to an unlimited LTE plan, you get throttled at 5 gigs instead of 3.
Otherwise, stick with what ya got and stick it to the man!

okashira said:
I want to switch from an iPhone 4S to the note II (international or at&t) by swapping sim cards. Can this be done with data working? I tried it with a galaxy sII skyrocket LTE, and data did not work at all. I expected at least 3G and HSDPA+.
Talked to AT&T and they said I have to change the data plan. But google searches have revealed that I should be able to switch without calling them and at least get 3G/HSDPA data.
Anyone have any insight?
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Not sure if my work around means much to you... but I had a iPhone 4S and got into a Note II and was able to keep my Grandfathered Data plan.
How I did it...
My phone being a 4S was not eligible for an upgrade but my wife's iPhone 4 was. So I used her upgrade to get the Note II and had AT&T do a crossover on the lines. So now my wife has my 4S and I have the Note 2 with the same data packages.
The downside at first was the swap caused our texting plans to dissolve, but in the end AT&T was able to offer me a better deal with unlimited texting and cell calls for $20 less a month. Not sure if it was just the tech guy who was able to swing the offer as they have a bit more power to make the customer happy over sales.
I had found out I had no texting after the fact and support hooked me up with all sorts of goodies and was the one who highlighted how I could save some cash.

Reps like to lie. They can't force you off the grandfathered data... I just upgraded again and kept my data No need to jump through hoops. Just double check after they are done .

I also was able to keep my unlimited data plan from my iPhone when I upgraded to the Note 2 (which will be here tomorrow, woot!).

Cheeze[iT] said:
Reps like to lie. They can't force you off the grandfathered data...
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I don't understand why AT&T doesn't just declare an end to grandfathered unlimited data, rather than officially continuing to support it while often denying it unless the customer puts up a fight. Is AT&T legally forced for some reason to continue the grandfathered plans?

Gary02468 said:
I don't understand why AT&T doesn't just declare an end to grandfathered unlimited data, rather than officially continuing to support it while often denying it unless the customer puts up a fight. Is AT&T legally forced for some reason to continue the grandfathered plans?
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Well once you sign a contract I don't think they can change your plan without giving you an early out option. When you aren't under contract anymore I guess they figure you may leave if they don't let you keep it so they grandfather you into another two years with unlimited data...just a guess and I could be wrong.

I have transferred my AT&T Unlimited Data Plan from several phones. Sometimes I was told I could not keep the unlimited plan if I wanted LTE, but I asked to speak with a supervisor and it always got resolved. Most recently I transferred my SIM card from an international Galaxy S3 to the Galaxy Note 2 (AT&T version) and beforehand checked to be sure I could keep my unlimited data plan. I was and the transfer was uneventful and everything continues to work great.

I did exactly what you want with no problems. You probably just talked to a bad representative.
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Thank-you to all of you who shared your experience. I can hardly control my urge to dump my iPhone 4S in favor of the Note II. Obviously, I am in the same boat like many of you. I was thinking about the wife-phone-switcheroo but she got her phone just about a year ago... I'll keep an eye on this thread an share my experience whenever I made the move!

okashira said:
I want to switch from an iPhone 4S to the note II (international or at&t) by swapping sim cards. Can this be done with data working? I tried it with a galaxy sII skyrocket LTE, and data did not work at all. I expected at least 3G and HSDPA+.
Talked to AT&T and they said I have to change the data plan. But google searches have revealed that I should be able to switch without calling them and at least get 3G/HSDPA data.
Anyone have any insight?
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I made this exact switch, and had zero problems whatsoever. In fact, my eyes widened when the rep told me that I would keep my unlimited plan, and she laughed and told me that that is the policy. I thought for sure that I was going to lose it.

Thinking of going to Sprint from Verizon.

Sprint now offers 4g lte in my area and really would like to have unlimited data again. Verizon put me on 4gb data plan on which I now pay more and go through the data in no time. The largest and most reliable network is useless when you can't use it. So I'm going the Sprint unlimited data plan. Is there anything I should know about before switching our a reason as to why I would regret the switch? Im bringing my unlocked note 2.

neemo6 said:
Sprint now offers 4g lte in my area and really would like to have unlimited data again. Verizon put me on 4gb data plan on which I now pay more and go through the data in no time. The largest and most reliable network is useless when you can't use it. So I'm going the Sprint unlimited data plan. Is there anything I should know about before switching our a reason as to why I would regret the switch? Im bringing my unlocked note 2.
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If 4g is available in your area, I would say go for it! Sprint is actually a great provider.

Unless you have issue with VZ in your area and using more than the standard data cap, I would not suggest go to sprint at this ponit. (long time sprint user).
They are currently in the network transition and got so many crazy call-drop, data drop signal.
If no compelling reason, no need to switch.

Go for it. I did the same thing as u. Left Verizon wjen sprint got LTE in my area. Speeds are great and the devices have unlocked bootloader unlike Verizon that locks everything.
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I would see how other sprint users like the service in your area. I'm in an area with LTE. I don't see nothing like Verzion's speeds, but it's still pretty good to get the highest bandrates for the services. You'll want to see if there are dead signal pockets in the area you frequent and so forth.
The service can be frustrating when they're working on the network. You'll see anything from really good bandwidth to can't get a connection. There was a good month where LTE was slower than 3G.
I like Sprint and have been with them for over ten years. They're not perfect, but still the quirks of Sprint, usually, don't bother me.

I had Verizon 4G then they did away with unlimited, now I have Sprint 3G
I'd rather have Sprint 3G unlimited than Verizon 4G limited.
I'm done with verizon and their phone lockdown policies as well. It's my phone I paid for I should be able to do with it as I will.

Verizon is the best service I have had to date; that's customer, call, and data. Only problem is that all that comes at a premium price. But if you have a good deal, a grandfathered plan, or can afford it, by all means stay with the best.
As for Sprint, they have been the very worse for me. Only good thing about them is unlimited data but even considering that, their data suck in my area. Customer service reps arent that bad but the company will gouge you at every opportinity. For me, they extended my contract without notifying me and when I went to change providers they told me I had to pay etf. Worse part about it, they said id have to get a court order to see where I agreed to contract extension. STAY AWAY FROM SPRINT!

Your unlocked Verizon Note 2 can't be activated on Sprint. If you can verify that Sprint has good 3G & LTE service where you live then I'd say definetely go for it because Sprint will not have unlimited data forever. If you wanr to save a lot of $$$ each month and you can tolerate the data problems in some places, then go for it. But you might want to wait till the Note 3 is released. That would be the time to switch.

Why can't my unlock note 2 be activated on Sprint?

CDMA phones are not locked in the same way GSM phones are. Sprint and Verizon limit the phones carrier use by their ESN. Your Verizon phone's ESN is not listed in the Sprint database. Therefore it cannot be activated on Sprint.

OT and other device conversation belongs here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44769714
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[Q] Thinking about switching to Sprit

Hey all,
I've waited out two generations of this phone in order to get this one but I'm currently on AT&T and my contract is up. The AT&T version has a locked bootloader and from the looks of it, it won't be getting root any time soon. I'm contemplating on whether I should go with the Sprint or Tmobile. How do you guys like this phone on the sprint network?
Are there any issues with wifi tethering with this phone (without paying extra for it)? Has anyone come from AT&T and regretted it?
I'm in the NYC area and I've had Sprint on my company's BB which had pretty good service. How is the service where you are.
This is kinda big decision for me because I've been with AT&T for over 17 years now and I'm going to lose my unlimited data if/when I switch. I know Sprint still offers it but AT&T does not and I want to make sure I make the right decision.
Thank you all in advance

Sprint does not offer unlimited data anymore and they are even trying to convince existing users to switch from unlimited to 20GB shared. Not sure about your area but in mine Sprint always have some problems and excuses. Still I stick with them because of employee discount, current unlimited plan, and other carriers are just expensive (Verizon) or I had them on my "black list" (AT&T).
Check Sprint coverage in here http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?

Sprint still offers unlimited data.

erik077 said:
Sprint does not offer unlimited data anymore and they are even trying to convince existing users to switch from unlimited to 20GB shared. Not sure about your area but in mine Sprint always have some problems and excuses. Still I stick with them because of employee discount, current unlimited plan, and other carriers are just expensive (Verizon) or I had them on my "black list" (AT&T).
Check Sprint coverage in here http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?
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Thanks for you input erik077. When I got a quote from the rep over the phone yesterday they were still offering the unlimited data plan. As a matter of fact the lady was even recommending that I get that instead of the shared 20gb plan. Still, I'm not entirely impressed with their coverage map. There are a lot of bare spots on that map for 4g coverage. But they seem to have good coverage around my home and work.
Anyone else like to chime in?

I have unlimited data and just got sprint. I was in the same shoes as you and I switched to sprint I kept going over my data limit and didn't want to worry about my data overages anymore so I switched to sprint! And now use more data than I ever did. And I get full coverage of sprint spark all over my area! ?

I guess different areas has different plans. I was told plan like mine is not available anymore and in case I switch that's lost forever.

Read the terms; IIRC, the newer unlimited data plans have a data roaming limit set rather low; beyond that limit incurs charges. The grandfathered unlimited data plans don't have a roaming data limit that incurs data fees but Sprint terminates those who abuse data roaming. Lose that plan and it is not possible to go back. The phones are still subsidized as well. That's another trend going away. I'm keeping my Everything data 1500 minute plan with employee discount for those reasons. Not sure about discounts on the other plans. Maybe that's three terms to consider if switching plans or providers.

deeken said:
Hey all,
I've waited out two generations of this phone in order to get this one but I'm currently on AT&T and my contract is up. The AT&T version has a locked bootloader and from the looks of it, it won't be getting root any time soon. I'm contemplating on whether I should go with the Sprint or Tmobile. How do you guys like this phone on the sprint network?
Are there any issues with wifi tethering with this phone (without paying extra for it)? Has anyone come from AT&T and regretted it?
I'm in the NYC area and I've had Sprint on my company's BB which had pretty good service. How is the service where you are.
This is kinda big decision for me because I've been with AT&T for over 17 years now and I'm going to lose my unlimited data if/when I switch. I know Sprint still offers it but AT&T does not and I want to make sure I make the right decision.
Thank you all in advance
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Which areas of nyc are you in?

I have both T-mobile and Sprint accounts. I'm happy sprint . Spark is great and I usually use about 50 gigs of a data on each phone. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think you should get Sprint since NY has great Sprint service.

ajr0312 said:
I have both T-mobile and Sprint accounts. I'm happy sprint . Spark is great and I usually use about 50 gigs of a data on each phone. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think you should get Sprint since NY has great Sprint service.
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Sprint in nyc was great with my nexus 5...but the note 4 seems to have connecting issues for me

Thanks for your input guys. I'm all over NYC (pretty much all 5 boroughs) and Long Island so I need good service wherever I am at. But I'm in downtown Manhattan most of the time.
@kwazytazz what kind of connection issues are you having? Poor 4g? GPS? Call quality? Please elaborate.
Also, could any of those issue be a problem with your phone?

deeken said:
Thanks for your input guys. I'm all over NYC (pretty much all 5 boroughs) and Long Island so I need good service wherever I am at. But I'm in downtown Manhattan most of the time.
@kwazytazz what kind of connection issues are you having? Poor 4g? GPS? Call quality? Please elaborate.
Also, could any of those issue be a problem with your phone?
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Mainly poor lte issues in the financial district ..few blocks from seaport..lte would not stay connected and will drop to 3g then 3g will drop and reconnect numerous times..whereas my nexus 5 stays connected 100 percent of the time..maybe I have a defective phone but that's my experience

kwazytazz said:
Mainly poor lte issues in the financial district ..few blocks from seaport..lte would not stay connected and will drop to 3g then 3g will drop and reconnect numerous times..whereas my nexus 5 stays connected 100 percent of the time..maybe I have a defective phone but that's my experience
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I've got the same issue.
Sprint is decent for lte in nyc. You may have some issues getting lte in SI or Queens but the other three boroughs should be fine.

I think that's fixable with an update tho. Not saying, it's not annoying atm, but Sprint should fix this soon.

How about Long Island? Anyone experiencing connectivity issues in Nassau or Suffolk?
Another thing I wanted to ask about was the GPS. How accurate is it with google maps and its turn by turn? I've read that several people are experiencing issue with it. Not just the Sprint variant.