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The sub-standard quality of the supplied earphones prompted me to look for a better alternative. The 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor is a good one but it negates the use of the control console (phone buttons, mic., etc), so I decided to make my own connector which I fitted above the control console. I can now use any 'quality' headphones to listen to music and use the phone handsfree function.
Its pretty easy to do, if you know how to solder, which is not difficult in itself. If anyone wants more detail of what I did or wants me to make a connector for them, let me know.
Yes, what a great job.
i am thinking the same thing, please tell us more information how to do that, and more pictures.
thank you.
cojones said:
The sub-standard quality of the supplied earphones prompted me to look for a better alternative. The 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor is a good one but it negates the use of the control console (phone buttons, mic., etc), so I decided to make my own connector which I fitted above the control console. I can now use any 'quality' headphones to listen to music and use the phone handsfree function.
Its pretty easy to do, if you know how to solder, which is not difficult in itself. If anyone wants more detail of what I did or wants me to make a connector for them, let me know.
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Superb!! Way to go, M8!
2.5 to 3.5 adaptor based on std earpiece
Please can you let me know how much, I want to use my sennheiser earphones.
Richard Racer
nice i wanted to make the same but a few things held me back
1 canabalizing the working headset could cause problems if the stereo wiring in the xda headset were poor quality and i could end up having to listen to music in the bus played by the normal speaker on the xda adding to the enjoyment of the rest of the pasangers
2 if the length of the mic and buttons had to be near my mouth the length of rest added headset would be added making me look like a d00d who were a bit too much into rubber and of cause the added lenght could cause music quality loss not that i would notice with the music i listen to
I would like to see the details and more pictures if possible. Thanks.
amaaaaaaaazing!! can you please show us how did you make it? :?:
well i asume he just strip the wires and solver them on to the connector of the female 3.5 minijack connector
not sure what he pictures should show some light on
I've been asked to formally write up the process and include further pictures. I shall be doing this this week and will post it when complete.
I would like to know how to do this also.
Don't waste your time soldering, and cutting, and fixing up your existing wires.
The wire is already available on the market.
I use in in my AUX-INPUT in my car so that the sound comes out the speaker system in my BMW, and the microphone remains enabled. The sound is fantastic. In addition, you can use the wire to listed attach to headphones, (listen to music) while the microphone stays enabled.
Here are the two places you can purchase the cable... (I am in no way affiliated to either).
www.arkon.com : the part number is ADPT04 - and it cost $9.95. You have to call in the order - it's not on their website. (it ended up costing me $13.95 shipping included - to CANADA!\)
www.handheldcanada.com - Same part number... different price (17.95 Canadian PLUS shipping).
Enjoy.
I would like to be able to connect my Evo to my car so that I can listen to Pandora using the car stereo. Unfortunately my car only has an Ipod dock connector.
Would it be possible to create an adapter that will allow you to connect an HTC Evo to an Ipod dock and output audio?
I have seen something similar being done with a T-Mobile G1.
webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
Is it just as simple as getting a Ipod dock extender cable like this one:
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6828
and cutting off the male and of this cable and soldering it to a male end of microusb cable?
Any help would be appreciated.
this is a huge area where android needs improvement.
There's no audio through the Evo USB port. I was searching for the same thing last night. I have a logitech ipod speaker: (can't post links)
I also have this ipod bluetooth adapter:
What I'm thinking about doing is to hardwire the bluetooth adapter to the inside of the speaker. Then get the 5v from the dock and make a cable or adapter to go to the Evo's mini usb port. It's not the best solution, but I do have all of the parts already. If I didn't, headphones would suffice.
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
speedracerbubba said:
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
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Hence my bluetooth idea.
I did some digging around a couple weeks ago and came across this
talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
It sucks you need the 3.5 adapter, but better than letting letting a perfectly good dock sit and collect dust.
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I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
oooo ^ good find. picked up two myself.
I've been using one of these in my car for about 6 months now, originally it was to have audio from netbook. It has now been doing me good on the evo.
*correct the link and bingo... Cant post the real link because of my noobness
w w w.cablejive.com/products/Dock-Input-Cable.html
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Step 1: Buy some Sugru or ShapeLock
Step 2: Buy Cheapie $1 headphones
Step 3: Buy iPod female Dock connector and MicroUSB Male end
Step 4: Use Pinout.ru to connect the points appropriately (iPod dock connector pins are pretty small and you must work quickly or your will melt the plastic, do not forget the internal resistors if needed for your application)
Step 5: Wrap it up in Sugru or Shapelock (use hairdryer to smooth it out with your hands)
Step 6: Paint and Enjoy!
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
You could also just buy this:
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
FIPO Bluetooth
I use this in my BMW for streaming over the bluetooth to the stereo. Works great and convient to just start the car and the Evo start playing music/podcast/etc.
FIPO Amazon Sprint search will turn up the 20 dollar adapter.
Childofthehorn said:
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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Some of us do have the necessary skills, but do not want a ugly wire staring us in the face. Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components. That is the main reason we come here, because someone may already be on the job.
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears. But definitely thanks for the link.
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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now that is sweet! best solution yet!
What if we took audio out from the HDMI port?
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Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components.
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True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
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Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears.
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I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
Brutal-Force said:
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
JoeBass said:
I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
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Great find! Just ordered one for myself
Childofthehorn said:
True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
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Well, that was a mouthfull. Thanks though, it helps a little. I did spend quite a while researching different Bluetooth headsets. But alas, as you have pointed out, although most of what is considered to be high end headsets, still only use bluetooth 2.0. The EVO also doesn't do a very good job at streaming bluetooth. Pandora and Music Player skip horribly. I was not aware that Meridian did a better job. I guess, that might have been another option.
As far as the bluetooth headsets go though, if your looking for A2DP, the selection is still limited, unless you want a dongle type headset, which IMO, you might as well use a wire. The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat. Then comes the Car audio as well as home audio into play. I use mine as a MP3 player both on the go and in the car. My car has a Audio In jack, so I am happy with that.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
Brutal-Force said:
Well, that was a mouthful....
The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Yeah, The E5 is a decent beginner set. You may want to look at building a CMoy at some point, make sure to use slightly larger electrolytic caps and good film caps (resistors don't matter as much). If you make one with good parts and socketed chip, you can roll in to your flavor and it will take portable amps that are $100 or more to beat it. As far as kit amps go, its hard to beat a Mini3 for $100 to put together yourself.
I only say this as a person who actually owns a $450 Portable Amp and $575 Custom triple driver In-ear's. Don't even get me started about the stuff that is at home (I have way too much audio crap!)
BTW - you can make your own custom silicone ear pieces by using some Sugru or if you know an audiologist, you can get some of the Westone two part silicone that they normally use for getting impressions. As with everything, be careful and YMMV.
I wish i had the time to work on getting a USB host for the EVO so that we could use external USB DAC's (like the very small alien and grub).
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA App
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Just ordered this too. The cable I ordered from Bestofferbuy . c o m was backordered, so I canceled. I agree with you, this should do the trick, saw it on another forum and looks like it will also allow some steering wheel functionality.
I ordered two through amazon, also found it on geek . com. Searching either with "Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Reciever" will get you there.
Hi all.
Just took delivery of my dock kit, and it's very nice. Well built, but whether its worth £35 quid is another story.
Anyway, that aside...
When the default "Driving Menu" is enabled, is there a way to change it, especially to use CoPilot instead of Google navigation?
I have had a quick search in this section to see if anyone else asked the same question.
Im in the same boat. It would be nice if someone could do a workaround. Nice bit of kit for the price.
NatTheCat said:
Im in the same boat. It would be nice if someone could do a workaround. Nice bit of kit for the price.
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How do you get audio to come out of the rear connector. I plugged my 3.5mm cable into the socket and the sound still comes out the speaker!
Have you tried it?
Settings - dock settings
ALexander
alx37 said:
Settings - dock settings
ALexander
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Yep! I should have read the booklet, it did tell me in there ;-)
RTFM!
I struggle to take the phone out cleanly using on hand - always hit the power button. Dock mode seems pretty poor to me, seems to get all voice activated with road noise - is the google one any better? (we have a samsung 'special', I think?)
Another thing I've noticed is the terrible engine whine from the loudspeakers when its charging.
Now I tried headphone out socket too, and the same problem occurs.
To me it's a lovely piece of kit, but if you have it connect via Aux then u need to listen to the whinning noise from the charging.
Anyone conquered the noise suppression from an in car charger? It's doing my head in!
stratplayer said:
Anyone conquered the noise suppression from an in car charger? It's doing my head in!
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have you checked it's not your car? Will try and remember to test if mine does this...
i also have the whining problem when charging. after some investigation, it appears to be caused by poor connections. in my case i suspect the head unit, as i didn't connect the rod at the back to the car frame with the bolt and nut.
you can get a ground loop isolator for about £15, but they just mask the problem - should really get it fixed if there is an electrical problem
Interesting. I have a 2008 Ford Mondeo from new. I'd hope that is electrically correct, but who knows.
I am awaiting delivery of a new car (Audi A3), so I will see if this has the same issue.
It's a real shame because the AUX out on the device increases the volume limit sent to the head unit and it makes a massive difference all round, this limit set by the poxy EU rules on the headphone out socket of the phone is really low (83% of max volume) and when you compare the two on the device its obvious the car kit is better.
BTW it makes the whining noise out of the headphone socket too, when plugged into cradle.
from what i've read, the noise when charging is usually from the alternator. do you notice the whine change when you speed up. if so, i'd get it checked out.
There is a method of basically powering the head unit direct from the battery, bypassing all the other connections and wires the juice has to go through to get to the head unit. probably what i will do if mine doesn't work after i've installed it properly.
I plugged mine into the radio today. From the headphone socket, no problem apart from a lack of volume (even on max gain, it is only just loud enough against the road noise). No background noise though.
Plugged into the connector on hte back of the dock is a completely different story. A ~10khz whine, which is present even with the 12V lead disconnected, and worse when it is connected. Sounds like breakthrough from a switch-mode power supply to me. Makes the audio-out on the dock not fit for purpose. Time to add my review on a fre sites selling them...
The other complaint I have is that it doesn't grip well enough to the windscreen.
tshoulihane said:
I plugged mine into the radio today. From the headphone socket, no problem apart from a lack of volume (even on max gain, it is only just loud enough against the road noise). No background noise though.
Plugged into the connector on hte back of the dock is a completely different story. A ~10khz whine, which is present even with the 12V lead disconnected, and worse when it is connected. Sounds like breakthrough from a switch-mode power supply to me. Makes the audio-out on the dock not fit for purpose. Time to add my review on a fre sites selling them...
The other complaint I have is that it doesn't grip well enough to the windscreen.
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I agree, although I get noise from the headphone socket when in the cradle and charging.
I have raised a returns to send my unit back for a refund. It's a waste of time having it if you cant listen to music on it! Imagine listening to the SatNav with all that silence and "whine" on the speakers, it would drive you bonkers.
It's a real shame as the overall quality is pretty good, but it is not fit for purpose in my opinion.
Will update this thread if I get any more news.
Just posting a review on Amazon... found this review too
2.0 out of 5 stars Dissapointing, 28 July 2011
By
Sean Houlihane
This review is from: Samsung Vehicle Dock Kit for Galaxy S II (Electronics)
For the price, this does not do well enough. Yes it fits well, and holds the phone, with an integrated dock connector. However:
It is a push-fit corner grabbing design, and I find it almost impossible to release the phone with one hand.
The windscreen suction mount is feeble, so maybe 20% of the time rather than removing the phone, I end up with the whole thing coming un-stuck.
Dock mode on this phone is almost useless, so plan on replacing it if you think it is a good feature.
The audio-out functions, but there is a very poor electrical design - even if the charger is not plugged in, the signal picks up a constant high pitched whine (even with the car engine off)
Buy a cheaper one, and you'll feel less hard done by.
tshoulihane said:
I plugged mine into the radio today. From the headphone socket, no problem apart from a lack of volume (even on max gain, it is only just loud enough against the road noise). No background noise though.
Plugged into the connector on hte back of the dock is a completely different story. A ~10khz whine, which is present even with the 12V lead disconnected, and worse when it is connected. Sounds like breakthrough from a switch-mode power supply to me. Makes the audio-out on the dock not fit for purpose. Time to add my review on a fre sites selling them...
The other complaint I have is that it doesn't grip well enough to the windscreen.
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Hilarious, just posted your comment on here from Amazon, didnt realise it was you until after I posted it!
There's one more for you to find - and it's not a cut'n'paste... Maybe not live yet.
If you don't want to run a car Samsung's menu
If you don't want to run a car Samsung's menu install aps from the store :
Dock No-Op .
If you want to restore the default you have to uninstall the application.
Samsung Cars Menu and that sucks and this increased volume of system sounds, it's up scares. I think everybody can hear it in the around car
And what this menu is, and so one can make your own card to use in the car.
Personally, I mounted the Launcher 7 menu that conforms to the Windows Mobile 7 and has the icon in the system ankles. Cubes as they rotate with the vertical grip twist at the best level for navigation. This arrangement works well in the car, because after docking nothing changes and I can continue listening to your music on the equipment in the car, not a hundred times to click to activate the music listened to on headphones before
Sorry for bad english, but google translator
I was a bit apprehensive about buying this dock as I'd read a lot of reviews complaining about engine noise and sub-par audio quality when outputting sound through the line-out but since receiving it I've been really pleased with it. There is no engine noise or unwanted sounds so I guess this varies from car to car and depends on how your stereo is wired up. I've also run a few low frequency speaker test mp3s through the line-out and headphone-out it as I'd read reports of the line-out cutting off some of the low frequencies but to my ear I hear no different and I get a good response from my sub with both. My only gripe is that the call audio is not routed through the line out. Although I knew this was the case prior to buying, I just can't understand why Samsung would have left this feature out. I've read that this was the case with other Samsung phone's official docks previously and in most of the cases I've read about a solution has been found either through a OS/kernel tweak or an app which sorts the problem out. I'm just hopeful that a helpful dev is able to have a look at this and see if a solution can be found for the SGS2. Otherwise it's a great dock
I have to say I am disappointed with this dock. Coming from a Moto Atrix dock, this is poorly designed. Love my phone, hate the dock.
At first glance it seems extremely well made but after using for a while it is fustrating.
One, they use to many materials compared to the Atrix dock. This thing is huge.
Two, its hard to get out of the dock. The atrix dock had a nice flip up latch that secured the phone.
Three, you have to run two cables from the dock for changing and audio. The atrix dock had one cable coming from the dock with an audio out dongle near the end of the cable.
Last, the freaking background noise is terrible. Dont even try to listen to audio at a low volume.
I like the flip up charger adapter. Also it works with the official extended battery. But thats about it.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to get an LOD for the Epic 4G Touch?
In case you have no idea what this means, here's your lesson in audiophile gear for the day:
Line Out Dock (a.k.a. LOD), n.: a cable commonly used on audio devices which creates a "line out" similar to a headphone jack but with no volume control and often better analog signal quality. This is useful in that it allows a user to bypass the headphone jack of a device and run the audio signal straight into an external amplifier. This is often done when an audiophile-type individual has headphones which benefit from a audio source with greater output power than a portable device typically provides.
Examples of LOD's:
Apple iPod/iPhone
Sansa Fuze
Bazirker said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get an LOD for the Epic 4G Touch?
In case you have no idea what this means, here's your lesson in audiophile gear for the day:
Line Out Dock (a.k.a. LOD), n.: a cable commonly used on audio devices which creates a "line out" similar to a headphone jack but with no volume control and often better analog signal quality. This is useful in that it allows a user to bypass the headphone jack of a device and run the audio signal straight into an external amplifier. This is often done when an audiophile-type individual has headphones which benefit from a audio source with greater output power than a portable device typically provides.
Examples of LOD's:
Apple iPod/iPhone
Sansa Fuze
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I googled epic 4g touch dock:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D1D9BEGSTA
Samsung HM3700 Stereo bluetooth headset
I bought the Samsung HM3700 Stereo bluetooth headset which comes with one. I am sure Monoprice.com has one or even Ebay; but if it's worth 24.99 to yah you can buy the headset.
Sort of what I'm after, but not really. I don't want a dock, I want a cable. This is for portable listening on the go with an amp.
Thanks!
Gorguts said:
I bought the Samsung HM3700 Stereo bluetooth headset which comes with one. I am sure Monoprice.com has one or even Ebay; but if it's worth 24.99 to yah you can buy the headset.
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Not sure I see what you're talking about; our just looks like a bluetooth headset to me.
The pinout for micro usb is the same across phones, right? If so, this should work.
fonseca898 said:
The pinout for micro usb is the same across phones, right? If so, this should work.
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Wow...if this works...
Does it mean I can listen to pandora on my phone and stream it through this LOD into my cars aux ports for superior sound quality?!
fonseca898 said:
The pinout for micro usb is the same across phones, right? If so, this should work.
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That is quite interesting and just might work.
What remains to be seen is whether or not that provides superior sound quality to the headphone jack. It just occurred to me that the Samsung car dock (which I have) is essentially the same thing as that USB micro to 3.5mm jack plug unless the phone has software which can recognize the difference. In this case, volume would still be controlled via the phone. I might have to test and see if I can hear a difference in sound quality, but I doubt it (or at least doubt that the dock will be better.)
I have both the official samsung desk dock, and car dock. They both have 3.5mm audio line out. Isn't that what you're asking for? I didn't know it had a "fancy" term though..
Edit: Maybe it's not exactly what you're asking for. I think you're hoping to get line level straight out of the DAC, which I don't think is possible with the SGSII. The audio dock line out is around the same quality as the headphone jack (as far as my "non audiophile" ears can tell) and it's certainly volume-controlled by software. Anyhow, some of the new custom ROMs out have beats audio and dspmanager built-in, which go a long way into tweaking the way audio exits the device. You may want to look into that.
Yeah the desk dock is still less portable than I'm looking for. I have DSP Manager on my phone and it helps to some extent. Guess I'm just stuck with the headphone jack. Thanks!
im pretty sure you need usb-host first, i think a usb dac has been used back on the nook color w/cm7 but then you lose portability and all that.
related?? http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
Hi
Do you have or know about an adapter of this characteristics that allow plug my custom headphones and keep the mic and central button function?
Im looking for use my bose IE2 headphones with my SGS2, but i dont wanna to lose the mic and button controls that have the geniune headset of galaxy S2, then i found this
http://dx.com/p/3-5mm-male-to-femal...one-volume-control-for-cell-phone-84cm-126278
and this
http://dx.com/p/simplism-3-5mm-male...-microphone-for-iphone-ipod-ipad-black-127001
When i plug my bose IE2 directly to the phone, all sounds great, but when i plug mi headphones to the adapter the sound is very very bad, only recover the true sound if i press the central button, and i just keep pressing the button to get the correct sound quality.
I hope not to be the one to have this type of need... ejejej :fingers-crossed:
Best regards
that would be a great acesorie, spetially if they make it with bluetooth support
Yes, but even without the Bluetooth support would be great to use custom headphones without losing the mic and the button.
I had one from "mobilnet" (very cheap) that worked (until I screwed cable after connector) ... iphone have switched last two pins (tip/ring/RING/SLEVE) - in original its left/right/mic/ground and in iphone its left/right/ground/mic so you get signal that go throught mic (I think - you can try to say something and it should change volume) ... if you short circuit with button it will play good ... open adapter and change last two cables (colors cant be for sure ) ... one should be connected to mic+r+l and one only to mic ... change them
(im trying to make adapter for this for two weaks at least but its hard to find 3.5 jack female)
in attachment is my mic control
(green + blue = left + right, yellow is sleve and red is for mic)
dont do that
The low quality of the DX products is just that, low quality. You can get such an adapter for the iPhone from more reputable brands, and while the volume buttons on a tri-button setup won't work, the middle one should. Alternatively you can make your own adapter by soldering a jack in place of the plugs on the mic/button cable you have. OR you can do what I used to do back in the iPhone 3GS days and open the Bose headphones and solder a new cable with mic directly to the speakers. If the IE2 are anything like the Bose IEMs I've done this to, it's not a hard thing to do.
Alternatively, there are Bluetooth adapters out there. The Jabra Clipper and the Nokia BH111 are two of the most interesting looking ones out there right now IMHO
Flowyk said:
I had one from "mobilnet" (very cheap) that worked (until I screwed cable after connector) ... please open one of the adapters and post picture of cables and board (I have not one that dont work) ... maybe if you short circuit with button it will play good ... open adapter and change last two cables (colors cant be for sure ) ... one should be connected to mic+r+l and one only to mic ... change them
in attachment is my mic control
(green + blue = left + right, yellow is sleve and red is for mic)
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edit: I was right - mic and gnd are changed ... your ground goes throught mic and so it have low power (cause mic works that way) ... if you press button you short mic and ground so it will work like intended
OMTP and CTIA standards are to blame
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/news/2012/1202/021312_Audio-Jack-Detection-Switch.html
you can use extension cord (for 4pin 3.5 jack) with changed mic/gnd or solder it in adapter (that is the easy way - finding cable with 4pin female is hero mission if you cant access ebay)
I have akg K350 they are for iPhone and now I have opened the control - the control is based only on the mic+gnd connector ... research in progress
AKG K350 pinout (iPhone control CTIA standard)
Tip Left Green
Ring Right Blue
Ring Ground Gold
Sleeve Mic Red
iPhone control:
Main button action - short mic and ground
+ and - are coded signals
Cheap headset
Left Green
Right Red
Ground Gold
Mic Stripped
Samsung Galaxy S2 pinout (CTIA standard):
Tip Left
Ring Right
Ring Ground
Sleeve Mic
Android control:
main button - shorted to R98
back button - 133-327 ideal R220
forward button - 437-711 ideal R600
How to use three buttons on iPhone control: http://www.instructables.com/id/Galaxy-Nexus-and-others-headset-remote-with-medi/#step1
zliffer said:
Yes, but even without the Bluetooth support would be great to use custom headphones without losing the mic and the button.
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you mean like the samsung hs3000? the official bluetooth stereo headset has support for custom 3.5mm headphones, an integrated microphone, play, skip forward, backward buttons, volume control, ptt, equalizer and a clip to attach it to your clothes. it has everything you guys want and has been available all along.
I was looking for something like this too, the only options I could find were really cheap ones for a couple of $ or ones over £15 with crappy reviews.
In the end I found this and bought it because it was a decent price and the same brand as my earphones (jays)
It comes with a single earphone you can plug into it, or you can use any other earphone.
I also installed the JAYS headset control app from the play store and you can customise the controls from there.
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
bbolgar said:
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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how is build quality though?
ive used the griffin one called ''smart talk'' but that lasts about 1-2 months everytime and costs about £15
ive tried the cheap chinese ones but the microphone quality is abysmal even if they do only cost £3
ive tried a genuine samsung one but that had the connections wrong and quality was terrible untill you pushed the function button then it become normal but you couldnt control anything with the function button
iam thinking the jays one or the htc one look pretty good
i like wired controls as they dont run out of battery like bluetooth headsets and dont drain battery like bluetooth headsets
i need a solid one though because iam fed up paying griffin £15 every 1-2 months and iam a posty so use my phone all day as a music player and the mail bag can cause strain on the wire across my chest
bbolgar said:
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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hi mate,
where you bought this? i cant find it on ebay or other local shops, how is its quality build?
Thanks
I bought it in a phone shop in Hungary, but as I can see, you can buy it on amazon as well.
For me, one of these lasts for about 9-12 months, though I use them every day, phone in my pocket etc.
For what it's worth I had 2 Samsung extension cables lying around for older phones, where it would work miracles, but on SGS2 it simply acts up like almost any of these (blame Samsung for changing things around and making them incopmatible in a year or so). I feed up and bought me Jay a-Jays One+ and never looked back. Good build quality and good sound, mic working as it should and apk is doing the rest for my preference and usage.
buxz777 said:
i need a solid one though because iam fed up paying griffin £15 every 1-2 months and iam a posty so use my phone all day as a music player and the mail bag can cause strain on the wire across my chest
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I don't think I can comment on the durability of the jays ones yet since I've only had them for just over a month (since the end of may) but I've used them almost daily since I bought them and have had no problems yet.
again, i can only recommend the original samsung hs3000. it offers the most features of the available stereo bluetooth headsets with phone capabilities, and at about 20 pounds, it is just as cheap as those lousy 3rd party aftermarket headsets but obviously is much better.
i have had it for about 7 or 8 months now and the battery life is still great. with 1 hour of music a day and another 1-2 hours of connected standby with the occasional call i can get through almost a week without recharging (if only the same thing were true with the phone itself ).
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again, i can only recommend the original samsung hs3000. it offers the most features of the available stereo bluetooth headsets with phone capabilities, and at about 20 pounds, it is just as cheap as those lousy 3rd party aftermarket headsets but obviously is much better.
i have had it for about 7 or 8 months now and the battery life is still great. with 1 hour of music a day and another 1-2 hours of connected standby with the occasional call i can get through almost a week without recharging (if only the same thing were true with the phone itself ).
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its a nice headset dont get me wrong ive owned two of them however the call button is huge and it always accidently calls someone for me because there is no lock on the call button and it is so easy to press by mistake , the amount of people i called by mistake was unreal
also the battery life isnt the best , about 6 hours mx music playback , bearing in mind i can work an 11 hour day , it wont even make it through a working day for me playing music all day (iam a posty and music all day is vital) so that means that iam then carrying around a bluetooth headset that has no battery and leaves me with a phone and headphones with no mic which is pretty useless for a handsfree situation
yu may love the samsung bluetooth adapter and thats great but for me it wasnt what i want/need and was pretty much useless for me if it cant even make it through the working day and that call button is huge and right on the front where it can easily be pressed
so yep its a nice bluetooth headset if thats what you need but i think the o/p and people like me no it exsists , dont like it or it doesnt fit our needs and we want a wired adapter so we can use our own headphones yet control our music and speak through them as well iam sure if we wanted a bluetooth headset then the thread title would be different dude
have nice evening and thanks for the suggestion again but its just not what we are after
ah, ok. i didn't know you already had it. i thought my previous post was overread and i thought to suggest it again
you are right, the big call button and some other minor things might not be for everyone. although, if battery life was that bad for you, i would suggest plugging the original headset with microphone in the hs3000, so you'd have bluetooth as long as it lasts and still having a 2nd option. without carrying 2 separate sets of earphones.
however, it is too late now apparently.
Try nokia ad-54 its works like a Charm
Nokia Ad-54
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Earph...Phone-Nokia-M011-/180666515232#ht_2570wt_1139
this works for me
are you using it with nokia? android dont have signals for so much buttons (as I know)
Hey, how do you use this? also have it! It has a smaller connector, is there any adaptor?
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