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The way you can distinguish between EDGE and HSPA. Is it it's own individual thing or does it just show up as fast HSPA? Basically, how do I know if I'm connected?
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aad4321 said:
...."Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk" Oh im sorry, I see you are using a Nexus S, you will not be able to use HSPA + LOLOL ROFL COPTER FAILBLOG
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I actually ordered a G2 today. That's why I'm asking on the G2 board, asshole.
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It depends on which ROM you're using.
On the stock G2 ROM, T-Mobile programmed it so you only either see E for EDGE or H for anything from UMTS to HSDPA to HSPA+.
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
I have no idea what Cyanogen will show you, as I haven't used CM on my G2, but I would imagine it'd be the same as the Sense ROMs.
Basically, T-Mobile wants you to believe you're *always* on HSPA+, but the non-carrier-backed ROMs tell the truth.
the orange bandit said:
If you install a Sense ROM, you'll see the correct indicator. I.e. an E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS/HSDPA, and an H for HSPA+.
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The Sense ROMs show 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+.
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
TheBiles said:
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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Correct. You *can* switch to EDGE-only if you wish (I do this at work cause I have WiFi and my cubicle is a black hole) but you don't need to do anything special to 'activate' HSPA+
HSPA+ is really just a faster HSDPA revision. Nothing special.
You should get the same H logo from as low as 1.2 Mbps HSDPA to at least 21 Mbps HSPA+ and probably more.
Also, technically, I think that 14.4 Mbps is still part of the HSDPA 3GPP release 5 revision. 21 Mbps is the newer release 7 HSPA+. So even if there were a "H+" sign, the Desire Z/G2 should never use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
TheBiles said:
Does anyone know what CM does? It's all I use. Also, HSPA+ just automatically picks up, right? It's not like Sprint's horrible 4G where you have to turn on your 4G radio that sucks the life out of the battery in a matter of hours.
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CM does show 3g and H.
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heybobitsme said:
CM does show 3g and H.
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So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?
TheBiles said:
So this convention: 3G for UMTS, and H for HSPA(HSDPA)/HSPA+?
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I'm assuming. I've seen it change, but haven't looked at the wireless status to confirm.
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My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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Bdix said:
My phone is still on stock rom. I get.....
E
G
H
H+
I guess my phone has an update or something.
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This is what I was hoping for. Maybe there's a theme for CM.
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I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+. I've flashed several diffeernt roms and everyone I have flashed(other than stock) show the true data.
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PatrickHuey said:
I can 100% say that CM shows G for GSM, or whatever the exact term is. E for edge, 3G for when you are in 3G and H for HSPA+.
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Sorry if this seems pedantic, but doesn't it show "H" for HSPA or HSPA+ ? Not just for HSPA+ ?
On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.
There's a H+ icon?
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brewser123 said:
On my unlocked tmobile comet (Ideos) , when I insert my HSPA+ Sim in, it shows HSPA in the "about phone" info options in settings as network type, but only bars with no 3G/4G icon. (possibly because I am not connecting completely)
Looks like I need to have my provider update my device so it works, but in theory it should.
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Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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dontbes said:
There's a H+ icon?
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In some custom ROMs, yes. Not in the stock ROMs.
Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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No, in CM the 3G icon is UMTS, and the H icon is HSPA/HSPA+.
Alex530 said:
Dude-__- There's no such thing as a HSPA+ Sim..*Double Facepalm*
And I think the H icon on cm6 means regular HSPA (7.2) and the 3g Icon means HSPA+ rarely do I see the 3g icon
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Double facepalm youself LMAO!! UMTS is 3G (7.2), HSPA is 4G (14.4), and HSPA+ is 4G (21.1) also. You are right though, wtf is an hspa+ sim? The sim I've had since the days of my RAZR works just fine.
In CM ROMs (and most others):
G = GSM/GPRS
E = EDGE
3G = 3G aka UMTS
H = HSPA/HSPA+ aka 4G
Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
Wuschelbeutel said:
Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
ReapersDeath said:
Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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Huh? Sprint has towers up in places. And LTE IS 4G.
EDIT: To OP, I couldn't tell you, don't have LTE in my area just yet.
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Im not even sure if sprint has any LTE towers up yet XD and is it any faster than 4g?
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What?
I'm curious as well op
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gpgorbosjr said:
Huh? Sprint has towers up in places. And LTE IS 4G.
EDIT: To OP, I couldn't tell you, don't have LTE in my area just yet.
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LTE is NOT 4G. They all call it that, but it's more like 3.9G. LTE-Advanced will be 4G when it is finalized and deployed on carrier networks next year.
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Wuschelbeutel said:
Assuming you live in a city that supports LTE. How much % less time do you get with LTE than with 3G
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I personally don't notice much difference by leaving LTE on versus turning it off. I usually get 2 days of use on a full charge. My results may be skewed a bit cause the lte signal is weak in my area, so my phone automatically switched over to 3G.
Mutiny32 said:
LTE is NOT 4G. They all call it that, but it's more like 3.9G. LTE-Advanced will be 4G when it is finalized and deployed on carrier networks next year.
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Give me a break man. I know what 4G is constituted by but with the carriers pushing out their crap (HSPA+ as 4G) calling LTE 4G is a happy medium.
And I was just trying to figure what the hell that guy was talking about when he said 4G. LTE, WiMax, Real 4G, dumb AT&T/T-Mo 4G?
If I understand correctly. The s4 processor has the lte integrated in such a way that is a bit more battery efficient than a snapdragon s3 device with lte.
This might be better in the Verizon form as they have LTE (we do too but in 5cities).
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You might get better answers in the LTE sticky thread in General. Most there have LTE.
FNM
I have yet to see a significant drop in battery life but connection isn't sustained very long anywhere I have been.
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With 4g on and active I was at 12 hours with 38% remaining. 2Hours and 30 minutes screen time.
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how do you guys turn off 4g
Both the battery working so good and long I would ask you this:
Why?
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just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g
mrej201 said:
just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g
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4G and 3G are not actually different for Tmobile.
Wikipedia article on Evolved HSPA
So then, the question is how to turn off DC hspa. Which is probably not accessible through the maintenance menus.
But for many real world value metrics I don't know what you would gain.
Get the app called phone info
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I think there's an app for that. I forgot what its called but I think the toggles are Edge or HSPA+ umts only
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Phone info
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I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.
4g on TMo isn't like LTE, it's not a separate modem to turn off like AT&T, VZW, or sprint. It's really a hopped up version of 3G. Your choices are 3G/4G or Edge.
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I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.
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yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys
I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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DarthPiggie said:
I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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That is the 2G service.
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mrej201 said:
yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys
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On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.
cajunflavoredbob said:
On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.
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And if you still want to do it.....go to settings - more settings - mobile networks - network mode and you can select "GSM only".
Strangely enough....there are a couple areas around where i live that my phone will show a 4G connection and absolutely refuses to open anything. I've found that if i switch to the "GSM only" option in those areas that at least i can get it working... slowly, but better than nothing.
Had the same issue with my previous phone. (G2) weird phantom 4G zone. :-/
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Wikipedia list it as MetroPCS. Aren't they lte? Is lte radio in ours notes2 already active?
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I think this is an lte network probably metropcs.if the phone is forced on hspa only or 2g only then the network is gone so thats must be lte on metro pcs.but why the phone cant see sprint and verizon lte networks?
Hey guys, just a wisdom about lte.
I get 1 bar of LTE inside my house, 2-3 bar of HSPDA and 4 bars of 2G. Does anyone know if tmobile will continue to add towers to the area even though my area has lte?
1 bar of lte is still faster then HSPDA.. Idk why I get 0-1bar of lte although I get full bar edge.
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nitrogen618 said:
Hey guys, just a wisdom about lte.
I get 1 bar of LTE inside my house, 2-3 bar of HSPDA and 4 bars of 2G. Does anyone know if tmobile will continue to add towers to the area even though my area has lte?
1 bar of lte is still faster then HSPDA.. Idk why I get 0-1bar of lte although I get full bar edge.
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Tmobile will definitely be expanding LTE coverage. As to when and where, only they know. When hspa+ first came to my area, I noticed an increase in signal every few months. I'm sure they will work on just getting LTE to all major cities before they work on increasing coverage.
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Alright..Kinda sucks to keep switching between lte and 3g and 2g.. I noticed even on only 2g/3g, the network switches a lot more compared to my old phone galaxy nexus.
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