I have tried a few others, liquid, alien, atom etc and none just seem to add up. I hate to sound condescending and by no means disrespectful but im looking for some others to play with. Customizable, leds, softkeys, statusbars, are some of the features I use a lot.
ocman40 said:
I have tried a few others, liquid, alien, atom etc and none just seem to add up. I hate to sound condescending and by no means disrespectful but im looking for some others to play with. Customizable, leds, softkeys, statusbars, are some of the features I use a lot.
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you havent tried rasbean jelly
ocman40 said:
I have tried a few others, liquid, alien, atom etc and none just seem to add up. I hate to sound condescending and by no means disrespectful but im looking for some others to play with. Customizable, leds, softkeys, statusbars, are some of the features I use a lot.
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just search and try, dont create a thread that compares roms to eachother, this is just begging for trouble
Yea, don't want any drama just options that are similar. Thank you.
ocman40 said:
I have tried a few others, liquid, alien, atom etc and none just seem to add up. I hate to sound condescending and by no means disrespectful but im looking for some others to play with. Customizable, leds, softkeys, statusbars, are some of the features I use a lot.
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CM10, duh. I've tried quite a few as well and ended up going back to CM10. Their new update service is pretty slick if you flash a lot. I stick with CM's own kernel because it was designed for his build. Cyanogen has obviously put forth the most work in building android out of any developer out there and this is why I trust his work more than others on here. Multiple people are responsible for changes to the code and review what is to be submitted and not submitted for a better overall experience/compatibility; not just some random Joe Schmo developer tinkering with code.
You can't argue that Cyanogen and his team are the best devs on here, no one here has come close to what he's done with his build system for all of the devices he builds for. He makes CM a simple extension to vanilla android and compliments it very well.
I didn't even like sorcery when I tried it..
paranoidandroid for me
"I don't mean to be condescending" and "don't want any drama" do not belong in a thread such as this. You were better off trying all of them, and not some of them (and thinking it was all of them) and making a decision for yourself..
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CM10, duh. I've tried quite a few as well and ended up going back to CM10. Their new update service is pretty slick if you flash a lot. I stick with CM's own kernel because it was designed for his build. Cyanogen has obviously put forth the most work in building android out of any developer out there and this is why I trust his work more than others on here. Multiple people are responsible for changes to the code and review what is to be submitted and not submitted for a better overall experience/compatibility; not just some random Joe Schmo developer tinkering with code.
You can't argue that Cyanogen and his team are the best devs on here, no one here has come close to what he's done with his build system for all of the devices he builds for. He makes CM a simple extension to vanilla android and compliments it very well.
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Sure you can, and that isn't fair. People have blinders on if they think only CM are the best. CM is a team of over a 100 devs. They have the manpower needed to do what they do. Nobody else does.
One of CM's recent features that they tried to play off as totally original (and many believe it), was in a rom a month prior, the commit provided by someone who has no such "dev" status.
There is talent everywhere. CM is not the answer to it all.
good roms are never supposed to be mentioned. just saying. silly
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"I don't mean to be condescending" and "don't want any drama" do not belong in a thread such as this. You were better off trying all of them, and not some of them (and thinking it was all of them) and making a decision for yourself..
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What's up adr? Im still looking for rasbean to try. Never cared for the cm roms. Sorry if I offended ya.
ocman40 said:
What's up adr? Im still looking for rasbean to try. Never cared for the cm roms. Sorry if I offended ya.
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I'm not offended. I just know you are opening a can of worms
A can of angry, soul-sucking, evil worms that will snuff your life if given the chance.
ocman40 said:
What's up adr? Im still looking for rasbean to try. Never cared for the cm roms. Sorry if I offended ya.
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maguro or toro?
heres maguro http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=maguro
if you have a toro, press toro on the right side of the page. if you have a toro plus, UBER started a thread in the toro+ section. all the rasbean jelly rom support can be found in the trinity kernel thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455874&page=2267
No offense taken. I just think what CM has does is the cleanest solution to a custom build of android for mobile devices. And there's a reason they have so many developers on their team.. and don't forget Cyanogen himself.
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I'm not offended. I just know you are opening a can of worms
A can of angry, soul-sucking, evil worms that will snuff your life if given the chance.
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Im 40 bro, those days are past for me lol. Just want some options. I just recently switched from my TB. Didn't you do some work on that? Your name seems familiar.
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Im 40 bro, those days are past for me lol. Just want some options. I just recently switched from my TB. Didn't you do some work on that? Your name seems familiar.
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he did... he's part of BAMF.
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Im 40 bro, those days are past for me lol. Just want some options. I just recently switched from my TB. Didn't you do some work on that? Your name seems familiar.
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Yeah, worked on the TB, and then switched to the Nexus when it came out last year.
akira02rex said:
CM10, duh. I've tried quite a few as well and ended up going back to CM10. Their new update service is pretty slick if you flash a lot. I stick with CM's own kernel because it was designed for his build. Cyanogen has obviously put forth the most work in building android out of any developer out there and this is why I trust his work more than others on here. Multiple people are responsible for changes to the code and review what is to be submitted and not submitted for a better overall experience/compatibility; not just some random Joe Schmo developer tinkering with code.
You can't argue that Cyanogen and his team are the best devs on here, no one here has come close to what he's done with his build system for all of the devices he builds for. He makes CM a simple extension to vanilla android and compliments it very well.
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From the Roms I've tried (which is every single one) I've found that cm10 is one of the lower on the totem pole when it come to features. A great ROM yes super fast and super stable yes but as for features.... not so much.
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From the Roms I've tried (which is every single one) I've found that cm10 is one of the lower on the totem pole when it come to features. A great ROM yes super fast and super stable yes but as for features.... not so much.
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You're talking minimal differences man. How many more features does AOKP have over CM10? It's not as many as you think if you list them all, and besides, the CM team has their own that AOKP doesn't have.
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Sure you can, and that isn't fair. People have blinders on if they think only CM are the best. CM is a team of over a 100 devs. They have the manpower needed to do what they do. Nobody else does.
One of CM's recent features that they tried to play off as totally original (and many believe it), was in a rom a month prior, the commit provided by someone who has no such "dev" status.
There is talent everywhere. CM is not the answer to it all.
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What feature? I agree with you, it's not like Cyanogen, steve, whatever his name is, is doing the work for a few dozen devices. I just want to know what feature you're talking about?
Sorcery is nice but for me the performance wasn't there. Xenon HD seems to work best for me
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Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
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Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking CM9 in any way. However, I can tell you I had zero issue with the stock ICS build my phone came either. I am hoping JB proves to be just as stable.
lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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SocialReject said:
Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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Correct, I am not running JB and I am making the comparison between it and CM9. I personally found nothing unstable in stock ICS however.
lol mate you can always try any roms easily. this is nexus device. you dont have to think long to ditch a rom... and we have nandroid too..
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lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Who is "insulting" CM team?? I have used their products for years and I think they do a great job. The purpose of this thread (if you bothered to read it) was to determine if I will be missing any functionality of CM9 by moving to JB. Assuming you are not currently using JB, then I respectfully ask you to move along and comment elsewhere. This thread is for people who have used both ROMs, and can comment about the differences. Please troll elsewhere LuffyPSP.
Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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You nailed it right there, and that was the premise of my first post. Coming from a Sense "enhanced" device the AOSP experience was priceless and amazing. However once you are already running a pure Google experience (stock ICS ona Gnex) there is much less to improve upon. Hence my movement from CM9 to JB, and hence the thread you are now reading. Some people here need to relax and have a civil discussion (not you, some of the others)!
Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Wow, I guess we are back in kindergarten or something? I never once said a single negative thing about CM9. This thread is to discuss what features CM9 lacks that JB has, or the other way around. Do people even bother to read the thread before they chime in?
everybody is entitled to their opinion. And a ROM preference comes down to just that.
(without comparing features and what-not)
CM is living history in the world of Android development, specifically custom ROMs. I ran CM back on my original Droid when Koush first ported it (having to come up with ClockworkMod Recovery just to be able to do so, so that's one big thing that came about as an indirect result of CM). But Cyanogen was the first one to build a ROM from source, something that was a LOT harder back when he started. Many of Android's features were found in his ROMs first. While you may prefer this ROM or that, you should know that the CM team's impact on the android development community is only surpassed by Google itself (and it's by a narrow margin IMO). The CyanogenMod team is absolutely legendary and deserves more respect than that
as far as comparing CM9 to JB, it's apples to oranges. You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
Came across this thread by accident... I think the users here was misled by the thread title... Anyway, i get what youre saying though about running aosp stock and cm9... You feel like youre not missing anything when running stock... Im not sure about stock ics but i think CM9 have alot of under the hood tweaks compare to stock... They may not be noticable to see but they are there hidden in codes ... May i say enhance in coding... Maybe wait for CM10, the wait will be worth it
Edit: apologize in advance if i misunderstood you
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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The post that nailed it all.
I enjoy stock. Nothing wrong there. I enjoy CM9. Nothing wrong there. I don't enjoy AOKP. Nothing wrong there.
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You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
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I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
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I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
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exactly. Hell, I think CM is the sole reason I even joined this forum when theming my D1 after Koush ported CM on another forum (I think alldroid or something like that initially). I remember the first experiments with JIT, and wow it was a ***** to get onto the D1 lol. I can't wait to see them play with JB when source drops. Cyanogen is your favorite developer's favorite developer
this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
The Tmo S2 forums used to be filled with ROMs but the devs stopped deving one after another until there were only a few left.
I'm sure the S3 will have a lot of great devs. Just gotta give it time. Phone has only been out a month.
In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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I concur, if the hardware is solid then the development will follow. So far I'm impressed with the work for the gs3 and the speed at which things have already started being released.
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WhitehawkX and RomanBB and a couple others and I think a couple of the other devs from the G2X forums are coming here, those alone mean extremely great things for us. Not to mention Cyanogen, (Steve Kondik) himself may very well own this phone as well. Mostly we already have pretty stable cm9 builds they want cm10 now. AOKP cm10 (whitehawkx and romanBB) have been working on that like crazy. Things will explode no worries. Oh and not to mention we already have Morfic and Faux as kernel devs, they support many devices and do amazing things.
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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I think their update was to remove features. I don't think you want that. :cyclops:
Lack of dev support? Really? As long as we have Steve Kondik (aka Cyanogen) on our side...we'll never lack in the dev dept. Not to mention...Morfic, Faux123, Romanbb...etc. They are, IMO, the best devs XDA has to offer.
Yeah, I don't understand your concern. We have THE premier developer for Android developing for our phones. You want more than Cyanogen himself to have this phone?
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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2 updates were useless the last one tho is good for the notification brightness control, I think is weird that we haven't get one yet, I feel like the us carriers will have jellybean gfirst before tmobile
To the OP Idk man the phone is new the evo didn't explode on development until after 3-4 months, and what I'm waiting the most besides cm10 stable is myns rom, he most likely make it compatible with all us carriers and likes his roms a lot, and the themes he uses it is my favorite so far
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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I know cyanogen does he posted a pic on his Google plus
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
I'm just hoping we get MIUI JB soon, I can't wait.
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WhitehawkX and Cyanogen as well.
It's seriously like the all-star team of devs working on ROMs for the T Mobile variant.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
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Well said.
Cyanogen and Team kang! What else can you possibly need.
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this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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I would agree. Even though there's a great lineup of developers as already mentioned, there's a lot less activity in the development section than other carriers. I know others have mentioned quality over quantity but other sections aren't lacking in quality even with the additional rom options.
And since the stock rom is pretty solid, I actually don't mind seeing more tweaked stock roms. Both for customization and optimization.
However, I'm still satisfied with current Sonic rom and as some have mentioned, this is the first phone I've owned that I haven't felt the need to flash something multiple times a week in order for the phone to perform properly.
Samsung did a great job this round producing a phone that performs great out of the box. It only gets better from here and with stock performance being what it is, I can be patient while developers get cooking.
unfortunately there's going to be a chilling effect on AOSP / CM dev'ing until this lost IMEI issue can be understood..
This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?
exekias said:
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
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ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms
k786 said:
ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms
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Well yes and no....
I bought the Nexus because on most of my phones i ended up running AOSP eventually so this was a logical purchase but i also ran MIUI for such a long time and miss it tbh.
It would be fair to say a segment of Nexus owners buy for the AOSP feel but not all and only, most don't know what they are buying / getting into or some don't see the whole picture (like me)
Cheers
These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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bk201doesntexist said:
These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up
I have the same feeling m8, but maybe this is happening because 4.2.1 has lots of bugs and maybe dev's are waiting for google to clean the mess.
I also came from S2 where we had lots of aokp based roms, really, those were my favourite, here I can barely see aokp roms or cm10 based ones.
I havn't bought my Nexus ONLY to try aosp rom's like other said, that makes no sense.
I'm really thankful to dev's that "invest" their time in this community, which is great, and I'm not moaning, it's just like an observation.
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.
I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol
The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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akira02rex said:
The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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That's because the One and the S are nearly identical, hardware wise, to the HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S, while the Galaxy Nexus is quite different compared to the S2
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You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.
exekias said:
Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up
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Epic reply XD
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Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex
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This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?
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Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so
sshede said:
You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.
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Again, NOT, *****ing, you have misread the intention
sergini said:
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.
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Thank you
crixley said:
I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol
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Again thank you, you are right people are touchy as hell about this subject, really cant imagine why
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Epic reply XD
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deepayanneogi said:
Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex
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If thats true, than thats a bit of a bummer, and Exactly what this thread was aimed at finding out, if our Gnex is difficult to code for despite being easy to unlock then thats a perfectly acceptable excuse for the lack of variety, thank you
ahmadallica said:
Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so
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I spend a lot of time in the themes and apps section for that sole purpose as well not to mention spending countless $$ of new launchers just to change the feel. Its a vicious cycle, we have been given the ability to change android how we want and for most of is, it isnt good enough we want more.
Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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Well having an open source hardware with all the binaries available seems to be the curse of gnex now, with many of the OEM phone dev's tirelessly working to remake binaries for closed hardware , here we have a completely open device with nothing more then AOSP ! .I'm up for asop as the next person in this forum but how about some innovations that can compete with OEM and eventually be part of android by default ?
As my previous poster says there's AOSP which is same as stock minus the gaaps then there is CM made from AOSP which is the most innovative followed/mirrored closely by aokp and then we have there derivatives with PA being a derivative of CM and CNA being the derivative of both CM and AOKP,
we have a ton of rom's but they are all twins of one another with AOSP being the eldest
Just my thoughts :highfive:
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Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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There's a few others that pop up and down (like BAMF) which are their own flavours and dependent sometimes on exactly which GNex you have. I've occasionally seen links to others that the devs seem to have a personal issue with being mentioned on xda -- and so they're out there but I honestly have no idea where else to look.
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Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
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A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.
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A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.
AmericanCon said:
I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.
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You don't "order" a ROM. You either use it or don't. Nobody is forcing you to use a ROM, if you don't like it then you make your own.
Nobody cares if arguments are "invalid" in your opinion. You don't have one bit of authority to back it up.
I know this is one of those annoying questions that gets asked a million times, but does anyone have recommendations for a stable 4.2 build? I want to jump from 4.1 to 4.2 but I really need something reasonably stable - meaning no call problems, no wifi issues, etc. I know I am taking my chances with any beta build, but any suggestions/feedback from folks who are very happy with their 4.2 ROMs would be appreciated!
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I know this is one of those annoying questions that gets asked a million times, but does anyone have recommendations for a stable 4.2 build? I want to jump from 4.1 to 4.2 but I really need something reasonably stable - meaning no call problems, no wifi issues, etc. I know I am taking my chances with any beta build, but any suggestions/feedback from folks who are very happy with their 4.2 ROMs would be appreciated!
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This belongs in the Q and A section. Prepare for the onslaught of possible attacks.
It all depends on what you're looking for. I suggest you start reading threads and figure out what features the ROMs offer and the last few pages of a ROM thread that interests you to see what issues people might be having with it. If you're just looking for stock then check out the AOSP ROMs, etc.
they are all good, just load 1 and delete this thread
IB4L.
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This belongs in the Q and A section. Prepare for the onslaught of possible attacks.
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Already prepared - a mod can move this if so desired.
Honestly, I am just looking for feedback on which ROMs have the least problems right now. Leaning toward CM10.1 Nightly or AOKP...
everyone's devices act differently, so everyone has a different experience. people can argue all day about this but really the best thing you can do is just spend a day flashing different roms and see which one works best for you.
/ib4tl
CouttsPhotog said:
everyone's devices act differently, so everyone has a different experience. people can argue all day about this but really the best thing you can do is just spend a day flashing different roms and see which one works best for you.
/ib4tl
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Agreed. However, I have two small children and work is extremely busy, so I don't really have a lot of time to flash multiple ROMs.
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jeffcavicchi said:
Agreed. However, I have two small children and work is extremely busy, so I don't really have a lot of time to flash multiple ROMs.
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MMuzzy or AOKP. I've run both, both are great. You get more bells and whistles with aokp so it really boils down to what you like.
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MMuzzy or AOKP. I've run both, both are great. You get more bells and whistles with aokp so it really boils down to what you like.
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Thanks! I think I am going to try MMuzzy's ROM. I like lean and fast, and find a lot of the bells and whistles a little overkill.
Great, goodbye now.
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Great, goodbye now.
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It amazes me how bent out of shape people get by honest questions.
If you are not interested in the topic, just don't read it.
I had better luck with evolution 3.0 ROM than any other so far.
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I had better luck with evolution 3.0 ROM than any other so far.
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Thank you!
No problem. Its lean fast stable and gets good battery life.
As a father of two small children myself, and a busy job, I feel your pain. But the inner geek loves toying with my Nexus!!
I've tried many of them (MMuzzy, AOKP, CM10.1, ParanoidAndroid, LiquidSmooth). Most are very stable, with good battery life. I really comes down to pretty small differences between them. I've stuck with XenonHD because of small features they have that others don't (a Fast Charge quick setting button and "turn phone over to silence calls").
I doubt I'll stick with it long, as the flashing rash starts itching every few days or so!
syphix said:
As a father of two small children myself, and a busy job, I feel your pain. But the inner geek loves toying with my Nexus!!
I've tried many of them (MMuzzy, AOKP, CM10.1, ParanoidAndroid, LiquidSmooth). Most are very stable, with good battery life. I really comes down to pretty small differences between them. I've stuck with XenonHD because of small features they have that others don't (a Fast Charge quick setting button and "turn phone over to silence calls").
I doubt I'll stick with it long, as the flashing rash starts itching every few days or so!
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Just flashed MMuzzy, so we will see how it goes!
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I'm using the latest nightly by cm10.1 and have zero problems I think it's the best ROM yet
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Valid question requires valid answer (as things are changing every month,or so).
My vote must go to Evolution 3.0. That thingie is as smooth as ... you know what!
XenonHD would be #2, in my opinion of course,
Muzzy, #3.
...or flip the coin between 3 and 2.
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PrimeDirective jumps in between #2 and #3.
Hi, im just wondering, which rom has the best battery life?
firepower12 said:
Hi, im just wondering, which rom has the best battery life?
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I can't speak comparatively, but I've had fantastic battery running CM10.1 nightlies and TinyKernel. Currently running today's CM10.1, TinyKernel 2.5.1, InteractiveX/SIO for gov/sched.
I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!
Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.
True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.
(sorry, had to do it )
Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.
Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.
Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.
Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.
Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!
Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.