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Can someone tell me if I use Google does it take away from my mins bc I still have to use my line to call Google and rate plan was changed so I do need to make some free calls
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2 part answer.
Call forwarding is free with I'm pretty sure all EVO plans on sprint, therefore using the google voice app for voicemail uses data and is free. ( you have to dial *28-your google voice number to set it up).
Using google voice to place calls (I call canada for free daily on it), definitely uses minutes unless... You get Sprint to give you " 3 free numbers / landlines" to call and them you don't accrue minutes for those (home, work etc...). You then just make one of your free numbers your google voice number and then all calls placed through google voice will be free too (no minute accrual).
The only problem is that last time I called customer retention, they said they were no longer offering that option (vs. Verizon, att and others that I believe still do -not confirmed)
Either way, GV is a great low cost way to call international from your cell
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Sprint does offer an option called "Sprint To Home" which lets you pick 1 number to call unlimited. It costs $5 extra a month. Also, when you sign up (you have to call customer service) they tell you that you cannot use it with any service that will allow you to re-route your calls (i.e. Google Voice). Of course, I don't think they actually check on the number you provide them, but I'm sure if all your calls came to/from this number and you were using 1000 minutes a month, a red flag is going to go off somewhere.
Basically, stop trying to cheat the system. If you need a ton of minutes, get the Unlimited plan.

Lol Google number is always different when u place a call so I guess my answer is no can't be done
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mobgod said:
Lol Google number is always different when u place a call so I guess my answer is no can't be done
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google voice is using data. as long as you have unlimited data you can do away with using minutes too much if that is your issue. so yes it will say you minutes because its using your mobile data and google voice gives you free calls anywhere in the us and only 10cents a min internation
hope that helps?

goodelyfe said:
google voice is using data. as long as you have unlimited data you can do away with using minutes too much if that is your issue. so yes it will say you minutes because its using your mobile data and google voice gives you free calls anywhere in the us and only 10cents a min internation
hope that helps?
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OK - 2 different issues
GV for the voicemail is using data and therefore unlimited.
Phone/Voice calls do not use data, they use minutes. The GV dialer dials an access number (which changes every few months) to place calls and therefore it DOES use minutes. The changing access number makes it generally impractical to change one of your "pick 5 / Favorite number" every few months.
But it can be done.
use the following format to add a telephone number in each contact that you want to use for GV (ie international)
you GV number,,your pin,,2,,the number you want to dial#
the "," is for a 2 second pause (depending which ROM you are using, it sometimes needs to be a "p")
the "#" tells GV that you are done with the number and place the call.
albeit labor intensive to setup, but it works I do it every day.
Also last point,
GV is NOT 10 cents/ min all international
as mentioned Canada is free (which is why I use this method even without the saving minutes issue)
the rates are VOIP like and can be found by logging into your google voice account and looking up "Rates"

Isn't Google Voice just VOIP?

Yes.
For obvious reasons integrates well with android and there is no access fee.
Just add money through your google checkout acct and you are golden!
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Kufer said:
Yes.
For obvious reasons integrates well with android and there is no access fee.
Just add money through your google checkout acct and you are golden!
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You don't even need to add money unless you're making international calls.

touche!!!! lol my b
thanks for the elaboration...got lazy

I'm lost lol so there is noway to do this bc it does use mins correct like people tell me to use fring but that will also say call with Google voice or without
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Yes I believe so since GV is a landline number.
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No plan

If I but a epic form someone and I don't get a plan is the phone still functionable like wifi and GPS and other things?
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Yes. You'll have to skip activation then switch wifi on and sign into your google account.

Yes wifi and gps will work. Gps will require 3rd party software though. Google maps won't work because you won't have data. google maps will work over wifi if your in an area where wifi is all over the place.
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Unless I can find someone that will pay decently for it, I intend to keep mine after I upgrade my contract and use it as a toy .

Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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NawtyB78 said:
Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.

RandomKing said:
I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.
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Sweetness. Thanks for the info.
Edit: I'd 'thank' you, but I can't seem to figure out to how to do that through the xda app...
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I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip

bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!

Thx u guys

RandomKing said:
Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!
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Yay! Quoting myself!
Moving on! So anyhow! I figured out how this works. Gmail started allowing calls out from its chat window about 8 months ago or so. Apparently, sometime after that, calls in were also allowed, making your Gmail window a free phone! I had already given up and moved on with a Sip phone and service, which allows you to not always have the Gmail window open to use... lol. But regardless, Groove IP takes advantage of these facts, and now basically pulls in your Google Talk functionality to make and receive calls all by itself!
What this means, is that under phones settings in Google Voice, you will have to enable call forwarding to Google Talk for Groove IP to completely work. Now know this, Google Talk does not use the latest and greatest Codecs for SIP, so it may not carry as good a call quality as using the GV + SIP option, but it certainly is simpler!
And with GV + Sprint integration now live and open, you can make your backup device carry the same number and functionality as your Sprint phone!

I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?

bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)

Sorry for the delay in response, I try to have a life with my Fiancee on the weekend .
gdbassett said:
I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'text you back'.
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Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)
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Acrobits Softphone will allow you to set a SipGate, or any similar SIP account, along with Google Voice as a call out dialer. Using this method, it will essentially dial itself, you'll answer SipGate through the app, and then it will call the other person. This app is available on both IOS and Android now, and was the best setup up until Groove IP. It may still be better, due to the different manners of operation, but the all-in-one solution of Groove is clearly very nice. However, the Softphone method is the best available AIO on IOS.

Google Voice Integration

Howdy all! New to Sprint and its Google Voice integration with Android, so I'm hoping you'll be able to give me some more info about it. I checked around a bit and didn't see my question answered.
I noticed after "integrating it" and allowing my phone to treat Google Voice SMS as normal texts, all of my GV texts received are now showing up in my messaging app. If I'm using the messaging app to respond to texts received as my Google Voice number, are these being counted as texts on my Sprint plan, or just as data like Google Voice always has been previously? Do I need to keep using only the GV dedicated app for that to be the case? I have the 450 minute unlimited data plan, so I just want to make sure i'm not doing something wrong and then ending up with 150,000 dollars in a bill for SMS messages.
Also, is there a way to differentiate between Google Voice texts and texts sent to my actual Sprint number in the messaging app?
For what it's worth, this phone is freaking perfect. Maybe it's just because the phone hardware has finally caught up to and surpassed the software experience that Touchwiz was trying to offer, but 4.0 is absolutely flawless, and this is the first phone I've ever owned that I didn't want to immediately load Cyanogen onto.

Pretty sure texts are unlimited on almost all sprints plans

I thought that might be the case, but the fine print said "on our network" which I took to mean texts from sprint customer to sprint customer. If they're unlimited anyway then it's no biggie. Thank you!

Tmobile $30 Data Plan + SIP + Google Voice = I have this setup wrong

So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!

There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service

Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!

Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.

Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.

pinoyplaya4life said:
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.

ziddey said:
To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?

[Q] VOIP using Talkatone with Google Voice and Sprint

Hey guys,
I tried searching for anything relating to this and I haven't found anything on this forum or Google thats helpful.
Issue: NO SERVICE!!! I work in a government building that has 0 reception inside (I also work in the basement). I also get almost no reception in my house, but i have an airave so that's resolved for the most part.
I would like to set up VOIP somehow without having to create a new number to give to people. I'm hoping to find someone who has done this already with success.
My thought is to install and set up google voice using my sprint number, and then integrate google voice into talkatone. That way I can call/text over wifi for free because it is still using my sprint number, just over a data connection instead of cell. I'm on a good family plan with a business discount, so this isn't me trying to get out of paying for cell minutes, my bill for 4 people is 200 bucks (we all have premium data). I just want to be able to receive my messages and calls while I'm at work on just a wifi signal. Unfortunately about a month ago my fiancees father unexpectedly passed and I didn't find out until I left work hours later because I never received a message.
If this is a taboo conversation I apologize (if its possible, the resources are already out there) or if nobody knows I understand. I was just hoping for some insight because I've heard complaints with people trying to integrate their sprint number to google voice.

So I took some time and did some individual research of each app and the google voice integration.
Google Voice itself does not all VOIP, which is where talkatone comes in. Most 3rd party VOIP apps require the person you are calling/texting to also have that app, or you need to create a new number through that app and give it out to everybody you want to communicate with over a data connection.
Talkatone works with Google Voice, which is why it's free, and the benefit of being on Sprint is that you can make your Google Voice number your Sprint Mobile number, therefore being able to make free calls and texts over wifi/3g/4g without spending any money. If you decide to go international you would only have to add a credit to google voice for international calls (which is significantly cheaper then the international rate from sprint).
I believe this is a very unknown loophole in sprints eyes that is completely legal and does not break the terms of service. They are the ones who have a contract with Google Voice to allow you to use your own number, then talkatone works on top of google voice to provide VOIP.
In essence I answered my own question, but I hope to have provided some insight to other people that have service issues with sprint.
I welcome anybody who uses this exact set up or just google voice to chime in with any issues they have experienced, or success stories.

I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift

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I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift
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What ive read is that because it works through google voice and google voice isn't considered a "mobile number" then any person you call that has a mobile-to-mobile feature will not take advantage of it, it will actually go towards their minutes. it doesnt hurt you because you arent using any minutes, but it hurts them. especially on a family plan.

Well obviously. It basically lets you use your disconnected device as phone whenever you have wifi.
For real "free" services, each person needs to be in on the same thing.