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Just wondering what's the difference with 1.32 and 1.72 rom.
I'm currently on the stock 1.32 rom and wanted to upgrade but is it worth going through all the hassle?
Is there any improvement in power consumption etc?
nm8 said:
Just wondering what's the difference with 1.32 and 1.72 rom.
I'm currently on the stock 1.32 rom and wanted to upgrade but is it worth going through all the hassle?
Is there any improvement in power consumption etc?
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Is it actually still available? I thought HTC had pulled the update due to the issues with it?
ghostofcain said:
Is it actually still available? I thought HTC had pulled the update due to the issues with it?
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I didn't know that. What issues did it have?
nm8 said:
I didn't know that. What issues did it have?
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it might be 1.75 that was pulled, as it was having issues with SD cards (i am sure I read this somewhere), but my understanding is that the biggest change between 1.72/1.75 and 1.32 is the fixing of the root exploit thus making them currently unrootable, the newest radio helps with battery life but that can be flashed seperately (if you have S-OFF) from here
There's a 1.72 WWE rom in the forum, is this any better than the 1.32 ?
You should get your DHD rooted, radio S-off and bump it up to the Revolution HD Rom.
Believe me, it's way better than the 1.32 version; battery life is much much better too.
lsseah said:
You should get your DHD rooted, radio S-off and bump it up to the Revolution HD Rom.
Believe me, it's way better than the 1.32 version; battery life is much much better too.
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I agree
ghostofcain said:
Is it actually still available? I thought HTC had pulled the update due to the issues with it?
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Yeah I read that everywhere. I have an HTC Desire HD with 1.39 as stock and if I check for an update, it says there's a new version 1.75.
So far I'm gonna wait till HTC ups a new one or just flashing to a custom rom
Hi all,
I have installed RD-MIUI Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...-bean-4-1-2-2-11-16-en-cm10-16-11-2012.17645/) on my HOX and it is working fine (a few bugs, but they are known).
My question is: why could I install it in the first place??? I didn't touch the hboot, but for many roms it looks like I need to upgrade it.
Why, for example; I am not supposed to be able to install Android Revolution HD 15?
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
My CID is HTCCN701 - so no firmware for it.
Can someone can explain to me how:
cid
hboot
kernel
rom
are related? And, although I understand the word and the wiki description, maybe a bit of explanation of what are concretely these entities, like which file is responsible for what, how these are layered, etc... I have a programming background, but I am still a bit lost concerning the architecture of android and its devices...
Thanks in advance!
froal said:
Hi all,
I have installed RD-MIUI Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (http://miuiandroid.com/community/th...-bean-4-1-2-2-11-16-en-cm10-16-11-2012.17645/) on my HOX and it is working fine (a few bugs, but they are known).
My question is: why could I install it in the first place??? I didn't touch the hboot, but for many roms it looks like I need to upgrade it.
Why, for example; I am not supposed to be able to install Android Revolution HD 15?
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
My CID is HTCCN701 - so no firmware for it.
Can someone can explain to me how:
cid
hboot
kernel
rom
are related? And, although I understand the word and the wiki description, maybe a bit of explanation of what are concretely these entities, like which file is responsible for what, how these are layered, etc... I have a programming background, but I am still a bit lost concerning the architecture of android and its devices...
Thanks in advance!
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Upgrading the hboot is only required for Sense-based Jelly Bean ROMs. You will not require an upgraded Hboot to use AOSP/AOKP/CM10 based ROMs.
CID - basically just identifies region/carrier of phone
ROM - variations of the android OS, usually comes with custom software/tweaks etc.
Hboot - not too sure, but different versions have an effect on wifi, reception.
kernel - basically a component that serves as the bridge between software and hardware and allows them to communicate between each other.
tomascus said:
Upgrading the hboot is only required for Sense-based Jelly Bean ROMs. You will not require an upgraded Hboot to use AOSP/AOKP/CM10 based ROMs.
CID - basically just identifies region/carrier of phone
ROM - variations of the android OS, usually comes with custom software/tweaks etc.
Hboot - not too sure, but different versions have an effect on wifi, reception.
kernel - basically a component that serves as the bridge between software and hardware and allows them to communicate between each other.
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Just see the hboot as the BIOS on a pc
Guys, thanks for the clarification!
Another question though... How come I would need to upgrade my hboot (keeping the BIOS analogy) so that Jellybean-based Sense can be ran properly? Is that because Sense has access to low layers? From your explanation, I would have thought the kernel would do that job...
Indeed, if we compare to a PC, I usually don't need to upgrade my BIOS when I want to change my OS... Hence the reason why I am confused
Well the hboot (bootloader) part interacts with the kernel and this will talk with the rom....
Because the kernel and rom are updated with the new JB update, it needed an update from the hboot too so it can interact in correct way. I think this is the easiest way to explain it
hboot - kernel - rom.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG
I have been unclear about this as well (great question). This sounds like a good explanation (hey Marcel!). But I'm curious as to why my CID is HTC_203 and I'm on ARHD v15.0 and it says in the OP of that rom that I need to "upgrade my firmware" and when I look on the firmware thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376 it says that my CID should have hboot 1.31. So, apparently it's not absolutely necessary to have the latest firmware? My rom seems to be working fine. Also, if I now want to use an ICS rom, will my CID/firmware (hboot) be an issue?
Ugh, can't believe how much more complex this phone is compared to my old Nexus! lol (but it sure is beautiful!)
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I have been unclear about this as well (great question). This sounds like a good explanation (hey Marcel!). But I'm curious as to why my CID is HTC_203 and I'm on ARHD v15.0 and it says in the OP of that rom that I need to "upgrade my firmware" and when I look on the firmware thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376 it says that my CID should have hboot 1.31. So, apparently it's not absolutely necessary to have the latest firmware? My rom seems to be working fine. Also, if I now want to use an ICS rom, will my CID/firmware (hboot) be an issue?
Ugh, can't believe how much more complex this phone is compared to my old Nexus! lol (but it sure is beautiful!)
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You have to check the hboot number if its higher as 1.12 then you have the JB hboot update. A JB rom will run on a lower hboot but that is only for the de-sensed roms !
And hboot number for ICS roms is irrelevant :thumbup:
MarcelHofs said:
You have to check the hboot number if its higher as 1.12 then you have the JB hboot update. A JB rom will run on a lower hboot but that is only for the de-sensed roms !
And hboot number for ICS roms is irrelevant :thumbup:
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Oh, wow. I see. :good:
Hboot can communicate with the hardware directly and controls all the security of the phone partitions.
Aside from booting the kernel
WiFi and other hardware bugs(dead sensors/sound and touch static electricity) were caused by incompatible hardware code between different hardware versions.
Edit: you only need to upgrade the hboot if you want to install a jb sense rom(stock or custom, restricted by sense+ software)
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Vcek said:
Hboot can communicate with the hardware directly and controls all the security of the phone partitions.
Aside from booting the kernel
WiFi and other hardware bugs(dead sensors/sound and touch static electricity) were caused by incompatible hardware code between different hardware versions.
Edit: you only need to upgrade the hboot if you want to install a jb sense rom(stock or custom, restricted by sense+ software)
Sent from my EndeavorU
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You mean I can flash a non-sense rom such as CM10 on my phone although I don't have a compatible cid?
From what i've read from the guide threads, you're supposed to have a cid similar to "HTC_001" or something like that to be able to flash a JB rom into the HTC one X. Am I wrong?
7ind said:
You mean I can flash a non-sense rom such as CM10 on my phone although I don't have a compatible cid?
From what i've read from the guide threads, you're supposed to have a cid similar to "HTC_001" or something like that to be able to flash a JB rom into the HTC one X. Am I wrong?
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Yeah. In fact, you're better off not upgrading hboot for non Sense JB.
BenPope said:
Yeah. In fact, you're better off not upgrading hboot for non Sense JB.
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Hmm, why is it better not to upgrade your hboot? (just curious)
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BenPope said:
Yeah. In fact, you're better off not upgrading hboot for non Sense JB.
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Thanks! My night has just changed.
Would it be too much asking for the best CM10 rom link? I know they're there, but they're a bunch and I'm not really sure which I should flash.
Actually, I think I may flash this one: youtube. com/watch?v=elDvcVot7qo
Good enough?
Thanks again (Incredibly quick answer btw, I'm impressed)
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Hmm, why is it better not to upgrade your hboot? (just curious)
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Depending on which version you can go to, you might have problems. 1.33 and 1.36 should be ok, but with earlier versions you might find bugs.
Also, if you update it, for non Sense ROMs, you'll need a non standard boot.img, and at the moment, most of them don't work with GPS.
7ind said:
Thanks! My night has just changed.
Would it be too much asking for the best CM10 rom link? I know they're there, but they're a bunch and I'm not really sure which I should flash.
Actually, I think I may flash this one: youtube. com/watch?v=elDvcVot7qo
Good enough?
Thanks again (Incredibly quick answer btw, I'm impressed)
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i would personally go for the official CM10(4.1.2) nightlies at cyanogenmod.com because i don't mind flashing a daily new update(doesn't require wipe data). I had defy with CM10 and as fast as I noticed any bug it was fixed in the next day's release. But I don't recommend this if you are looking for a permanent rom.
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Depending on which version you can go to, you might have problems. 1.33 and 1.36 should be ok, but with earlier versions you might find bugs.
Also, if you update it, for non Sense ROMs, you'll need a non standard boot.img, and at the moment, most of them don't work with GPS.
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I would like to add that the chance of finding a security hole in newer hboots is smaller , and I bet that no one would want to miss applying an S-OFF exploit.
Vcek said:
i would personally go for the official CM10(4.1.2) nightlies at cyanogenmod because i don't mind flashing a daily new update(doesn't require wipe data). I had defy with CM10 and as fast as I noticed any bug it was fixed in the next day's release. But I don't recommend this if you are looking for a permanent rom.
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I would like to add that the chance of finding a security hole in newer hboots is smaller , and I bet that no one would want to miss applying an S-OFF exploit.
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Does GPS work on these nighties?
I just flashed the one that I mentioned and I've already gotten 3 reboots. Definitely not keeping it.
Gps should work if you didn't update the hboot.
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Vcek said:
Gps should work if you didn't update the hboot.
Sent from my EndeavorU
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I ****ed it up.
I was getting reboot after reboot so I tried restoring my stock rom from de clockwork mode. Now all I get is the HTC One X boot logo.
I forgot to move the stock boot.img from my phone to the pc and now I don't know how to push it from the phone to the pc without system.
Any ideas?
edit: alright, I really need some help right now. I'm freaking out. All I need is to send the stock boot.img I have on my backup to my pc so i can flash it via fastboot usb.
7ind said:
I forgot to move the stock boot.img from my phone to the pc and now I don't know how to push it from the phone to the pc without system.
Any ideas?
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Mount the storage as USB from CWM.
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Mount the storage as USB from CWM.
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"E: Unable to open ums lunfile (No such file or di...)"
It's getting scary. I don't want my phone to die.
btw, I hit "mount usb storage", I guess that's what you told to me, right?
I think the problem may be usb debugging. Idk if i have it enabled.
edit: I pulled it of, flash the buggy cm10 rom again, put the other rom files in the SD car and enabled usb debugging. It's charging now, I'll flash this new rom later, maybe at 40%.
Hey everyone.
I'm currently running CM10 nightlies on my HOX. My HBOOT is 0.95, as my HOX hasn't been running Sense for a long while. And the phone isn't carrierlocked.
My question is, though, will there be any advantages to updating with the latest JB RUU? Surely I'll get an updated radio firmware, which hopefully will help my connection issues. But is there a danger in upgrading the HBOOT at this point? Will I still be able to install CM10(.1)?
Thanks in advance
debichu said:
Hey everyone.
I'm currently running CM10 nightlies on my HOX. My HBOOT is 0.95, as my HOX hasn't been running Sense for a long while. And the phone isn't carrierlocked.
My question is, though, will there be any advantages to updating with the latest JB RUU? Surely I'll get an updated radio firmware, which hopefully will help my connection issues. But is there a danger in upgrading the HBOOT at this point? Will I still be able to install CM10(.1)?
Thanks in advance
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CM is supported on all HBoots so you dont have to worry about upgrading your HBoot version.
Advantages of upgrading HBoot:
* Better firmware and new JB with good radio as u already know
Disadvantages of upgrading HBoot:
* If a S-off exploit is discovered which is on a lower HBoot and is fixed on the newer ones then you wont be able to use that s-off...ofcourse other exploits can be discovered...but its always good to remain on lower HBoots if you are plannin on s-off
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CM is supported on all HBoots so you dont have to worry about upgrading your HBoot version.
Advantages of upgrading HBoot:
* Better firmware and new JB with good radio as u already know
Disadvantages of upgrading HBoot:
* If a S-off exploit is discovered which is on a lower HBoot and is fixed on the newer ones then you wont be able to use that s-off...ofcourse other exploits can be discovered...but its always good to remain on lower HBoots if you are plannin on s-off
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Thanks a lot!
As far as S-OFF goes, I'm not sure I need it. Sadly, unlocking the bootloader allows me to do what I want: install CM. CM and root access is all I need
So, I have a question... I've had a look around and I can't find an answer to it, but if it's already been asked just point me to the right place .
Basically, when Jelly Bean ROMs first came out, I was told I had to update my HBOOT, which I haven't done yet (still waiting on O2 to release the update for CID O2__001). Now, however, I've found JB ROMs that say they work on all HBOOTs (my current HBOOT is the same 1.12.0000 that the phone came with, I've not changed it). So:
1) Does this literally mean all HBOOTs? Can I install these ROMs on my One X in it's current state without a problem?
2) And, if this is the case now, I'm curious as to what changed, that means I don't have to update my HBOOT anymore?
Thanks, and sorry if I'm being daft...
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These are the ROMs I'm referring to (one is AOKP, one is CM10 and the other is AOSP):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013506
Correct, they work on ALL hboot versions, because they are non-sense roms. I can't explain more in-depht,but they work and that is the main thing.
The Sense JB roms still require updated hboot.
gk007 said:
So, I have a question... I've had a look around and I can't find an answer to it, but if it's already been asked just point me to the right place .
Basically, when Jelly Bean ROMs first came out, I was told I had to update my HBOOT, which I haven't done yet (still waiting on O2 to release the update for CID O2__001). Now, however, I've found JB ROMs that say they work on all HBOOTs (my current HBOOT is the same 1.12.0000 that the phone came with, I've not changed it). So:
1) Does this literally mean all HBOOTs? Can I install these ROMs on my One X in it's current state without a problem?
2) And, if this is the case now, I'm curious as to what changed, that means I don't have to update my HBOOT anymore?
Thanks, and sorry if I'm being daft...
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These are the ROMs I'm referring to (one is AOKP, one is CM10 and the other is AOSP):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013506
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It you want to flash a Jelly Bean SENSE Rom you have to update your hboot to 1.3x.
There are aosp Jelly Bean Roms that work with all hboots, thats why you don't have to update your hboot.
The only thing I wonder about is, if there is an advantage between 1.31 and 1.39?
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Correct, they work on ALL hboot versions, because they are non-sense roms. I can't explain more in-depht,but they work and that is the main thing.
The Sense JB roms still require updated hboot.
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Ah, okay, thanks so much! I'm not bothered about Sense at all (Vanilla is much better )
Also, do you know if the tablet mode working in the latest AOKP build?
Not a word about it in ROM control if that's what you mean.
You can, however, enable tablet mode by setting dpi under 210. I personally don't like it, 'cause everything looked so tiny and was difficult to use.
Hello friends!
I am sorry if this issue has been raised before, couldnt find it though.
Lately my Desire freezes when I recieve calls. It started on a evervolv 4.2 nightly, I though it was simply a bug, but I reverted back to the old stable ROM and the problem persisted. I have now tried many different supposedly stable ROMs and it still happens. I have done full wipe in between.
Is my Desire just fundamentally corrupted now? Could upgrading radio be an answer, or unrooting?
Very grateful for you help
murreOlsen said:
Hello friends!
I am sorry if this issue has been raised before, couldnt find it though.
Lately my Desire freezes when I recieve calls. It started on a evervolv 4.2 nightly, I though it was simply a bug, but I reverted back to the old stable ROM and the problem persisted. I have now tried many different supposedly stable ROMs and it still happens. I have done full wipe in between.
Is my Desire just fundamentally corrupted now? Could upgrading radio be an answer, or unrooting?
Very grateful for you help
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Upgrade radio, if you don't have the latest. If the problem persists, install the 2.3 RUU (sig). If that doesn't solve it either, it's not software's fault.
DigginGraves said:
Upgrade radio, if you don't have the latest. If the problem persists, install the 2.3 RUU (sig). If that doesn't solve it either, it's not software's fault.
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Lol wheres the 2.3 ruu in ur sig?
Sent from my HTC Desire
Will I be able to root my device again from Gingerbread RUU? Does it not change the hboot version?
Thanks for the tips!
jmcclue said:
Lol wheres the 2.3 ruu in ur sig?
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Lol...maybe he was waiting for our sigs
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Lol...maybe he was waiting for our sigs
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Sorry. My sig is a WIP.
Check their sigs^^
DigginGraves said:
Upgrade radio, if you don't have the latest. If the problem persists, install the 2.3 RUU (sig). If that doesn't solve it either, it's not software's fault.
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I upgraded the radio with no luck regarding the freezes. However reverting to RUU Stock 2.2 solved the problem. I am running Mildwild 4.8 with no problems too. Problem does not seem hardware related. I have a 8gb class 2 sdcard, could it be to slow for running JB with a2sd?
Funny though, that I didn't have troubles with JB at first.
Cheers!