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Gingerbread update for Htc Desire

Is there anyone who knows if there is a date for the release this week?

Awesome, and i was just thinking we need another thread on the TGB updae and when its arriving lol

Ok, things are going a bit slow here... :-/ Is there really no one who knows a date?

Yes, really no one knows the date.

Igothakrull said:
Ok, things are going a bit slow here... :-/ Is there really no one who knows a date?
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Well, someone at HTC possibly, although maybe not - going by the number of threads where people have been told Yes/No/Maybe by different folks from said company...
It'll be here when it arrives, and not a moment sooner.

It would be prudent if the next topic about would be themed something like 'yay, I got an ota update'.

I think that maybe there will not be any date announced before the update. That we will just get it.
What do you guys think about that?

erklat said:
It would be prudent if the next topic about would be themed something like 'yay, I got an ota update'.
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Ohhh please dont tempt me!

Several weeks probably
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*cough* thorough *cough* research has shown that updates always arrive when you're offline, so I guess it doesn't help much to keep pressing the F5 or update button
I think they're using the same algorithm as the mail man, for delivering that one important package when you're not at home.

Don't see what you mean really... Do you mean that everyone won't get the update at the same time??? :S

Depends on your carrier's arrangements with HTC. It will be staggered so that the servers are not overloaded.
I'd assume that Europe will get the update first.

From what I gathered when I emailed htc awhile back they said they had some sort of slot system - not sure how much of that is true though...
Sounded like they had x amount of 'slots' per day and it sounded like first come first served style.
When they were full/used up you just waited till the next day.
for unbranded... carriers probably have their own way of doing things to the branded sets?

HTC themselves said last week that the new 2.3.3 update should be released for unbranded desire's sometime at the end of next week so it should be today or maybe over the weekend.
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Greegan said:
HTC themselves said last week that the new 2.3.3 update should be released for unbranded desire's sometime at the end of next week so it should be today or maybe over the weekend.
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NO. They said will provide info about the removed apps starting from this week.

They lied us again, no matter for the info or for the update itself

Igothakrull said:
Don't see what you mean really... Do you mean that everyone won't get the update at the same time??? :S
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No, people will get the update at different times, your mobile operator has to put its logos and other junk in to the update before it gets rolled out.
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NO. They said will provide info about the removed apps starting from this week.
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The amount of misinformation these days is staggering.
Actually there is a simple explanation why is that. It derives from the phenomenon called 'selective reading'. When they see a new thread, they only actually read two words, 'update' and 'Gingerbread'. The rest of the post they simply forge together by abstract thinking.

"HTC Desire getting Android 2.3 Gingerbread next week, some HTC Sense features face the chop"
Here's the link to the Facebook page:
http://recombu.com/news/htc-desire-...-htc-sense-features-face-the-chop_M14531.html
Hope this helps.

FML
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1.29.401.7 Firmware Update Out In The UK

Ok people,
Just been on to HTC and they have confirmed that the 1.29.401.7 is out in the wild for UK users.
I have not had mine yet but they said this... (has anyone had there update yet?)
Robert: Hi Richard, thank you for contacting HTC Support, I am looking in to your query now.
Robert: I understand you wish to know when the latest Android 1.29 OTA update will be coming to your device.
In answer to your query the HTC One X Android 1.29 software update via FOTA EU is being rolled out as we speak, To unbranded devices. The servers can only handle 30,000 updates a day so you will have to be patient but you should receive the update soon. If your device is branded to a network e.g. 3, please wait for the network to release their branded software. The update is only available ota (over the air). There is also no way of installing an unbranded update on a branded device.
To manually search for updates please go through the following steps as described in the link below:
http://www.htc.com/help/www/howto_iframe.aspx?id=141676&type=1&p_id=440
For the latest news releases Please go to Our official HTC website, http://www.htc.com/uk/
Or web Fan pages e.g. Facebook & Twitter.
HTC thank you for your continued patience and co-operation at this time.
Richard Dixon: But thats great and all yet no one in the UK has received this update that I know of... (unless they got there phone from france or germany)
Robert: I can confirm it has been released.
Richard Dixon: Ive seen people asking on your official facebook and twitter. So its out in the UK?
Robert: Yes it is out in the UK.
PLEASE NOTE AFTER A FEW COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD IT SEEMS THE UPDATE IS NOT OUT IN THE UK AS OF YET AND HTC MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE. WILL POST MORE INFORMATION WHEN I GET IT.

Nothing on Vodafone here in London

Whistler23 said:
Nothing on Vodafone here in London
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Hi mate is your phone locked to Vodafone? This update is just for unbranded sim free phones at the moment, your network provider will release this update sometime later.

Already on it, RUU
But good to see it now slowly rolling out.
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Game-Modo said:
Hi mate is your phone locked to Vodafone? This update is just for unbranded sim free phones at the moment, your network provider will release this update sometime later.
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Ah right I see. You had me all excited! (Yes it is).

nikzDHD said:
Already on it, RUU
But good to see it now slowly rolling out.
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Looking forward to the improved battery life . Ive been told it also makes HTC Sense a bit smoother, is that true? Ive noticed that some of the Live wallpapers stutter a bit.

Nothing for me yet either on an unbranded T-Mob HOX.

Damn it, I just sent my One X for Exchange as it had a fault, oh well, I guess I'll have the update ready for me when I get another one back on Thursday, gives my fingers a break from mashing the 'check now' button.

Nothing yet, Im on vodafone but unbranded HOX.

nothing on my unbranded one as well, and htc said the same thing to me a week ago and nothing yet

They've been giving the same canned response for a week. They seem to think it's out here but it ain't. I have been speaking to HTC at a high level about it as I believe some mistake has resulted in the UK not getting it. I will report back whatever I hear.

Nothing here yet
Unbranded T-Mobile

farnsbarns said:
They've been giving the same canned response for a week. They seem to think it's out here but it ain't. I have been speaking to HTC at a high level about it as I believe some mistake has resulted in the UK not getting it. I will report back whatever I hear.
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The guy speaking to me said he had received his update yesterday and its a UK handset so im unsure mate.

I'm already on it - RUU
But, I've noticed:
Slight improvement in home screen lag, it's still there...
Much lower AnTuTu score
& according to HTC's own built in battery test, battery is worse than 1.28
I went from 90% left after the test on 1.28, down to 88% on 1.29
So, battery not as good maybe? & benching is much lower...
Hmm.....
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I had the same email as that myself & also a similar reply from online chat, but there is i think you will find as yet no update in the UK.

anoniemouse said:
I had the same email as that myself & also a similar reply from online chat, but there is i think you will find as yet no update in the UK.
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I think we should all ring HTC now and tell them they are mistaken and its not out in the UK....

Game-Modo said:
The guy speaking to me said he had received his update yesterday and its a UK handset so im unsure mate.
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Just got this back from HTC manager...
Stay tuned....ill need to investigate and send a few mails. But it seems a bit strange. I received my update this weekend. But that was on a Nordic device. Keep checking manually. I'll keep you informed. Cheers
So at least someone's checking.

farnsbarns said:
Just got this back from HTC manager...
Stay tuned....ill need to investigate and send a few mails. But it seems a bit strange. I received my update this weekend. But that was on a Nordic device. Keep checking manually. I'll keep you informed. Cheers
So at least someone's checking.
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Not cool. I thought it was a little odd Europe got it and the UK did not.

chrisjcks said:
I'm already on it - RUU
But, I've noticed:
Slight improvement in home screen lag, it's still there...
Much lower AnTuTu score
& according to HTC's own built in battery test, battery is worse than 1.28
I went from 90% left after the test on 1.28, down to 88% on 1.29
So, battery not as good maybe? & benching is much lower...
Hmm.....
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Considering its had some negative effects, I'm not really fussed when it arrives, just hoping the next one is better :banghead:
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dannysmith43 said:
Considering its had some negative effects, I'm not really fussed when it arrives, just hoping the next one is better :banghead:
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Definately but what if we wont be able to get the next one too?? (Talking about UK handsets)

[Q] Will Official 4.2 come to the HOX?

Title says it all, what do people feel, given the delay on 4.1 and imminent M7?

hope so htc didnt say anything yet

HOX will receive updates for a long time, for sure

I definitely hope so, but I don't think that HTC is going to release an update to 4.2. But if they do, it will sure be the last update for the HOX.

I think they will need to give support for at least a year, if they want to keep their customers. But I fear the worst.
No future support = bye bye HTC

TacticalTimbo said:
Title says it all, what do people feel, given the delay on 4.1 and imminent M7?
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I think it will get the update officially. Fingers crossed still.

i'm pretty sure it will.. most HTC phone receive 2 major version update in the past.

gl23leung said:
i'm pretty sure it will.. most HTC phone receive 2 major version update in the past.
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I don't find that reassuring at all. Given the cliff-dive HTC shares have taken, they might be tempted to cut some corners on long term support.
However, wasn't Google obliging OEM's to give at least 2 year support for devices. Thought I heard something like that somewhere in 2011/2012
Anyway, fingers crossed

Would be stupid if it doesn't receive past 4.2 , hox sure is more then capable of running higher system, besides it's rumored sense 5 is lighter then 4+ .. anyway if we don't ... well bbye htc.

The OneX+ is not supposed to come with Android 4.2 and Sense 4.5 stock? I think I read that somewhere..

Tell HTC what you think of no more One X updates!

Now that HTC have confirmed they are not providing any further OS updates for the One X and the One X+, I started a thread in the One X+ forum with a survey monkey link to give us all the chance to tell HTC what we think of their decision. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey. The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49619827
Many users are frustrated that HTC don't listen to their customers so I compiled the survey to give us all the opportunity to express our collected opinion. Carpe diem!

Yeah, really bad move from HTC! :/

yeah, you pay good money for a device with good spec and you expect, because of the spec you would get more updates other than just JB, poor move HTC

It's not that I'm disappointed by the amount of updates, it's more that the updates HTC gave us constantly broke things. One of the first Updates added a new bootloader which broke the compactiblity of CM10, the update to 3.20.XXX.3 added a new touch driver which broke compactiblity to touch in recovery (at least if you still want to be able to use mass storage/adb) and the 4.2.2 update broke our wifi in october and htc still didn't bother to deliver a fix after almost half a year! I would have prefered when they had just made a single update from 4.0 to 4.2 and even keeped sense 4 as long as they had delived a fully working rom.
An other problem of htc are their kernel source releases: they always wait till the end of the 90-days-period after the rom-update before they release it, even though they definitly had it since the release of the rom update. Take an example at samsung: they haven't updated the note 3 to 4.4yet but the kernel source is already there!
I will never, ever again buy another HTC or Tegra phone.

Vote with your wallet, and don't buy HTC again. I certainly won't.

I think all phone manufacturers should keep phones updated for 2 years minimum as that is how long most phone contracts are for.
In the EU they are already covered by a 2 year warranty, i would expect the update issue to be forced in this region for the same reason.
Here is hoping any way

It is funny that for example LG will upgrade some low end devices to 4.4,a HTC wont upgrade One X and One X+ and they still have decent hardware and very nice display...shame on you HTC

I made my views pretty clear. HTC won't listen, if they do, it'll be a half ar**d support like the desire, desire HD...etc etc. Next time i'm just getting a google nexus phone outright and a 30 day rolling contract. Bye Bye HTC, hope you either learn or sink

The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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Rotten Ross said:
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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What are the features on Kitkat that we don't have on 4.2.2 Sense 5 ?
I had the Frustration of updates when i was on desire z 2.2 and the upgrade to 2.3 (download manager and the toggle buttons) was extremely late in my country
but since hox started 4.1 i have not found Google adding any thing revolutionary that make a lot of difference to the device experience
I have been using HTC because of the build and the design of devices, only thing i hate about how htc handled hox is the brokern wifi on the current build, it has been disappointing

Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.

thekillingroad said:
Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.

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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers

Yep waste of space thread, if you want kit kat flash one of the 2 variants posted in this section.
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thekillingroad said:
Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.

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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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Why do you look for a side to put a blame on? You're still using the word "support" for upgrading a sofware to an upper version, but let stay in terms, if we're looking for "ethical", this does NOT mean support. I can get many things as your opinion, but this is NOT. HTC does still support One X, it is not upgrading the software to another major version, that is it. Don't wanna look annoying but I am a software and management consultant and make lots of Support and Maintenance agreements, what you want is not support.
Well, you want an ethical solution.. In Turkey One X was still sold I think ended about 4-5 months ago, and with 3 year contracts. It is also sold for a long time, may be not in Western countries or in Oceania, but deciding just for those countries is not legal right? So, how long the upgrade process should last then? till 2016? 2017? This has no ethical solution. You used the key word, most. This is the best way to measure the economic point of view Would you like to make a market analysis to find out when the One X is sold most? Would you choose a specific month of a year? This is a dead-end bro, believe me.
Again, don't wanna look annoying, but then get a crapsung, you do know they do update their phones further, that is clear from Sensation/S2.
This is how HTC makes their market strategy and you might say that it is clear that ther strategy is not working, but most of experts beliece upgrades are not the main reason for this.
Anyways, I don't wanna "troll" in the topic where people write their opinions, just wanted to share mine.
Cheers

But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4

Beyazid said:
But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But then are we looking for an ethical solution, if we choose the start point as global release? I may have bought my phone as soon as it is released in my country and it could have been December 2012, and I might have gotten it with a three year contract. Who has the blame for my situation then? And the two is years is something just we made up since "most" of the users get the phone in two-year contracts and the warranty is for two years.
One last update.. But we still haven't reached May 2014, and till then Google might release a 4.5? Wouldn't we want it then?
Cheers

The only way we can change things regarding updates is to try to evoke a law where the minimal update timeframe is set
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Well that´s another Problem with all the phone brands who build Android phones.
The updates take much too long to get released for the phones.
If I would follow your logic we still should get Android Kit Kat since it was released in November. A better example would be 4.3 which was released for Nexus phones 2 months before 4.2 was released for HOX(+).
It effectively means we got 2 big Android revisions (4.1 + 4.2) which means 1 year of support but it was only stretched from April 2012 (official release) to July/August 2013 (last update)
And just for your interest. It doesn´t matter how long the carrier contracts run or when it was released in YOUR country. It´s about unbranded devices which are officially released. Carrier branded phones shouldn´t be bought anymore and/or the consumer shouldn´t choose them anymore to make clear that the way carriers are working isn´t consumer friendly but that´s a whole different point

How good is HTC with updates and support

I'm thinking about getting this phone. How good is HTC when it comes to supports and updates? Are they one of the companies that drops support after a year of device life or do they continue to support it with updates for a few years?
Alos is it easy to update the official ROM with root and s-off or are there weird requirements/steps to update when you're rooted?
Thanks

bullet25 said:
I'm thinking about getting this phone. How good is HTC when it comes to supports and updates? Are they one of the companies that drops support after a year of device life or do they continue to support it with updates for a few years?
Alos is it easy to update the official ROM with root and s-off or are there weird requirements/steps to update when you're rooted?
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They are pretty good with updates. I would say Motorola is the fastest followed by htc and then LG and Samsung.
Also depends on what version of the phone you have
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They're pretty good with updates. But if you buy unlocked/directly from htc then you get faster updates than through a carrier.
For example, I have the t-mobileUS version and haven't rooted/SOFFed or any of that but it just got updated today with software 1.81 which the unlocked versions got a couple weeks after release. But overall i'd say it didn't take tmobile too long to update it.

HTC seems to be decent with their updates. Especially if you switch your CID to the unlocked version.
Sammy takes way too long with theirs. Gotta tailor that bloat yo.
That being said, I feel like Sense is heavier than reviews initially let on. I had to switch to Nova.

Yes they are good and fast regarding updates.
As for all devices running Android 6 and using block based OTA you got to know some steps to be taken prior to updating, if you're rooted. But that's just the way it is. A little bit of reeding will do just fine
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HTC seems to be decent with their updates. Especially if you switch your CID to the unlocked version.
Sammy takes way too long with theirs. Gotta tailor that bloat yo.
That being said, I feel like Sense is heavier than reviews initially let on. I had to switch to Nova.
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