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.12Mb/sec roaming

Description says it all. When I roam onto Verizons towers I only get. 12Mb/sec which is almost no internet at all. Is there a way to fix this? I know the signle from my tower would give me 2.5-3Mb/sec on my evo just a few weeks ago. Ideas guys? Oh i use Roam Controle to switch over to Verizon if that makes a difference

yeah well the best Sprint 3G I can get in my neighborhood is about .25 Mbps. And it's true for many parts of Manhattan, you can't crack .5 Mbps.

I thought verizon dramatically throttles it for roaming.
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dead78 said:
yeah well the best Sprint 3G I can get in my neighborhood is about .25 Mbps. And it's true for many parts of Manhattan, you can't crack .5 Mbps.
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I dont use 3g much in Manhattan. But where I live(in queens) and where I work and go to school (midtown) I have an awesome 4g signal. When I'm inside, I average anywhere from 6-9mbps and when I'm outside I get about 9-11mbps
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Damn you 4g'ers lol. Kauai doesn't have 4g yet

It all has to do with the 3g radio in the phone...It sucks...I'm in Dallas TX and I get speeds so low I can't load a web site through opera mini. Any other phone I owned Evo4g and 3d where not that slow at all. 4g is not strong enough to keep a signal while moving/driving so I dont use it much.
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Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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squshy 7 said:
Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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This. And it's not just this phone.
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squshy 7 said:
Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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Actually in many areas, the PRL entry for Verizon is defined to search for Verizon 1x signal while also searching for Sprint EV signal. So you could actually be roaming on Verizon for voice, have the EV/3G indicator, but still be using Sprint for EV/3G data.
This can lead to even more confusion.

Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?

bluefire808 said:
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893

bluefire808 said:
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.

bluefire808 said:
Description says it all. When I roam onto Verizons towers I only get. 12Mb/sec which is almost no internet at all. Is there a way to fix this? I know the signle from my tower would give me 2.5-3Mb/sec on my evo just a few weeks ago. Ideas guys? Oh i use Roam Controle to switch over to Verizon if that makes a difference
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LOL I normally get about .20mbps on Sprint's terrible 3G network, and still no 4G here in Phoenix.
You have to admit Sprints 3G network is a joke. I was sitting at dinner earlier right next to the tower and I was barely breaking 1mbps.

dallastx said:
That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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Speed? Any LOS's?
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dallastx said:
That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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My Moment (August, anyway) was able to roam on 3G in northern Wisconsin. Of course, I believe that that part of AllTel went to Cellular One, not Verizon. That's probably the difference.
In fact, I often got better data speeds in the middle of the forest up north than I do at home in Milwaukee. I usually got 150-200kBs (bytes, not bits) whereas at home, I get 15-20kBs.

dallastx said:
Speed? Any LOS's?
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speed heavily depends on time and location
can be anywhere from 500kbs-1.5mbs but as slow as 200 if the tower is super hogged.
Never had a LOS, stock kernel + root

graffixnyc said:
I dont use 3g much in Manhattan. But where I live(in queens) and where I work and go to school (midtown) I have an awesome 4g signal. When I'm inside, I average anywhere from 6-9mbps and when I'm outside I get about 9-11mbps
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Damn I would kill for those speeds. In midtown manhattan and on 4G I can only get around 5mbps download (standing next to a window) and 350kbps download.
I can't even get 4G signal in my house downtown. I get only 1 or 2 bars for 3G unless I am standing next to a window.
I need to test the speed of the 3G next time I roam.

this is fps test. hope the pic works this time

From what I understand Verizon does not support 3G roaming with Sprint phones you will only get 1x service. 3G roaming was a deal with Alltel, who got bought out by Verizon and ATT. You are going to get crappy speeds if you are roaming on Verizon.

Enable 3G on this phone?

I really just don't understand why T-mobile wouldn't include the ability to connect to 3G as well as H+ with this phone. It just sucks because you literally can't do anything on edge and it's pretty much useless. Is there any possible way to enable 3G and H+ through the APN's or something. (I did search around for this but couldn't find anything) Also it can apparently connect to AT&T 3G so wouldn't that show that it might be able to connect to T-mobile 3G in some way? (unless I'm completely wrong in assuming this lol)

Aren't our phones 4g?
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989

jmariconda said:
I really just don't understand why T-mobile wouldn't include the ability to connect to 3G as well as H+ with this phone. It just sucks because you literally can't do anything on edge and it's pretty much useless. Is there any possible way to enable 3G and H+ through the APN's or something. (I did search around for this but couldn't find anything) Also it can apparently connect to AT&T 3G so wouldn't that show that it might be able to connect to T-mobile 3G in some way? (unless I'm completely wrong in assuming this lol)
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All of tmo's 3g is H , you just can't connect to AT&T's 3g unless you have an AT&T sim card and are unlocked ...
You will just normally get an H instead of it saying 3g, IF you can't get H then you are not in a "Tmobile 3g area" ...
TMO H+ should show as 4g, but that depends on the ROM you are using, I don't remember what stock looked like .... I know mine says H when I am on tmo 3g and 4g when on H+ ...

tcboo said:
All of tmo's 3g is H , you just can't connect to AT&T's 3g unless you have an AT&T sim card and are unlocked ...
You will just normally get an H instead of it saying 3g, IF you can't get H then you are not in a "Tmobile 3g area" ...
TMO H+ should show as 4g, but that depends on the ROM you are using, I don't remember what stock looked like .... I know mine says H when I am on tmo 3g and 4g when on H+ ...
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Ohhhh now I get it lol I always wondered what the difference was between 4G and H on the status bar. Thanks a lot for clearing that up.

relldroid said:
Aren't our phones 4g?
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
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Yea but my question was for when we couldn't get 4g, but like tcboo said, H is 3G while 4G is actually H+.

Yeah he's correct 3g was just standbye, when data was being used it become H, data on my phone is 4g tho I don't see an H+
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989

relldroid said:
Aren't our phones 4g?
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
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Tmobile doesn't have 4G
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our 4g is actually 3g+ lol so all we have is 3g lol

Teo032 said:
our 4g is actually 3g+ lol so all we have is 3g lol
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..

tcboo said:
Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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It's true we have more or less 3.5g but Verizon has there 4g LTE which is according to statistics the fastest and true 4g, we come in 2nd i believe
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989

I'm hitting between 10-18Mb down and 2-9mb up with this beast, and no I don't live in a big metro area my lousy sensation topped out at
6mb down and 2mb up in the same area... as other person said idc Wtf they call it...its fast and consistent and cheaper then any other provider
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relldroid said:
It's true we have more or less 3.5g but Verizon has there 4g LTE which is according to statistics the fastest and true 4g, we come in 2nd i believe
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
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I have seen those reports as well, but the ones I have seen are always theoretical speeds ...
I know in my area where VZ has LTE, and I have H+ I still get better speeds ...
One of the things, not all CPU's regardless of the radio, have the chipset support to reach the maximum, but ours is one of them that does, as does the Skyrocket ....
Where I actually live I have crappy service , but next time I am town, I will try and remember to save a screen shot of my speeds, last time I was getting in the high 20's without any issues, but I do average around 18 down and 2.5 up ....

tcboo said:
Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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Coming soon from T-Mobile, the next great things in smartphones. The Google Nebula running Fruit Loop on our new lightning fast BubbaSmith network.
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avarize said:
Coming soon from T-Mobile, the next great things in smartphones. The Google Nebula running Fruit Loop on our new lightning fast BubbaSmith network.
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LOL
But I thought that the new phone was code named "Deliverance" ????

No 3g on sgh-t989?

Can someone let me know why my phone never shows 3g? Either it is showing 'E' or 4G. My nexus used to show 3G.
I am under the assumption that this sgh-t989 can connect to all those networks t-mobile has....
Thanks
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It might be because of the fact that everything being advertised now as '4G' is technically '3G.

8Fishes said:
It might be because of the fact that everything being advertised now as '4G' is technically '3G.
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Thats not true anymore.. the T-Mobile 4G network has been officially recognized as 4G along with WiMax and LTE. Happened a few months ago.
The reason your only seeing either E or 4G is because those are the networks you are near. And many people believe that T-Mo sets the software to show 4G in the 3G area to "lie".. personally depending where i am, I see 3G or 4G we dont have any edge left in my area any longer..
Either way does it really matter? I mean as long as you have a solid connection..

PJcastaldo said:
...The reason your only seeing either E or 4G is because those are the networks you are near...
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My friend's Nexus S shows 3G or H -depending on which tower it connects to? I don't know but it does show them at different times. we are still living in the same area. So, I am not so sure that they might have "phased out" the 3G. Confusing..
PJcastaldo said:
Either way does it really matter? I mean as long as you have a solid connection..
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Suppose it doesn't matter but, I'd rather get 4G > 3G > E, and in that order. As you know, 3G is definitely faster than E and not all markets/areas have been upgraded to 4G...

T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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iLeopard said:
T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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But T-Mobile's 4G is really fast. Lets not start bad mouthing here.

I get on average 18-20mbps on T-Mobiles "4G" here in South Florida. These speeds are absolutely horrible! Youtube videos are fully cached in seconds and i don't even get the buffering icon so I can sneeze or make sure my car is even being driven in the right direction! Someone should report them to the BBB!
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iLeopard said:
T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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Then call it ridiculous because as of the end of last year the hspa + network was accepted as 4G. As well as wimax and LTE. Since previous non of these where "real " 4G.. 100mbps.
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tester420 said:
Can someone let me know why my phone never shows 3g? Either it is showing 'E' or 4G. My nexus used to show 3G.
I am under the assumption that this sgh-t989 can connect to all those networks t-mobile has....
Thanks
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Basically, if you live in an area with mixed coverage where there are 3g bands in addition to hspa plus (a form of 4g), you will see a mixture between 3g and 4g. However, in most areas the 3g bands have been upgraded to support 4g so the 4g > 3g > edge map has the 4g and 3g combined into 4g so you're not losing out on 3g time but rather are gaining 4g time.
Another explanation involves TMobile showing all 3g as 4g regardless of whether it is actually hspa plus or not. This would explain your friend's nexus s coverage changing. Personally, I only see a difference between 3g and 4g on specific roms which would indicate that TMobile does code their roms to label everything above edge as 4g.
Side note: H is the same as 4g as far as we are concerned. H means hspa plus whereas 4g if the more broad category that also includes lte and Wimax. It's like calling my car a ford fusion versus just a Ford. Neither is wrong.
Bottom line: you are not losing out on 3g coverage. At best, you are getting 4g in place of the 3g even when you should be getting 3g. At worst, you are getting both 4g and 3g but your phone is always telling you that you're on 4g

new to the Verizon galaxy nexus

Hello I am new to Verizon's galaxy nexus and I was wondering how do I keep it on 4g lte only?

mbrown3460 said:
Hello I am new to Verizon's galaxy nexus and I was wondering how do I keep it on 4g lte only?
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Don't enter an area without LTE coverage. If you have LTE enabled, and there is a strong enough signal, then your phone will default to that. If the LTE signal drops to unusable level then the phone will drop to 3G or 2G in attempt to stay connected.

mbrown3460 said:
Hello I am new to Verizon's galaxy nexus and I was wondering how do I keep it on 4g lte only?
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You can't make it LTE only. If there's LTE in your area, you'll have it. If you go somewhere out of LTE range, you'll drop to 3G. You'd rather just lose data altogether if you're not near 4G???? That doesn't make too much sense.

Find a really strong 4G area and then never leave!

SirBindy said:
You can't make it LTE only. If there's LTE in your area, you'll have it. If you go somewhere out of LTE range, you'll drop to 3G. You'd rather just lose data altogether if you're not near 4G???? That doesn't make too much sense.
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I have 4g in my area but the thing is my house is kind of weird with connection....I had a thunderbolt and I used this app called lte on /off and it would make my phone stay on lte and not bounce back to 3g...for some reason this app is not working for me
Edit: lol just noticed that app is only for the thunderbolt....any apps that's similar?

Live in Anaheim. Always has LTE. =P
OK well really u can't have LTE only enabled. It doesn't do voice or other things related. It does only data stuff.
unless verizon somehow hooks up the LTE network to do voice and have a larger LTE coverage, u'll always be stuck with CDMA and LTE at the same time
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3g/4g question

Hi every body
i seem when my note display 3g the internet dosnt work i need to wait for couple of seconds to display h or h+ and then works. Is that normal? Why i cant use the 3g regular network?
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Yes thats normal. Its to preserve bettery the signal will regilary drop down into 3g when idle
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Bestplayer55 said:
Hi every body
i seem when my note display 3g the internet dosnt work i need to wait for couple of seconds to display h or h+ and then works. Is that normal? Why i cant use the 3g regular network?
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I'm on the same boat homie. Can't figure it out. I guess it's just another amazing T-Mobile limitation.

Tmobiles 3g and 4g network are the same the 4g is actually just 3g with better antenna technology and I think a power boost. The 3g network is called hspa and 4g is hspa+. That is why att had 3g 3.5g and 4g att considered the hspa+ 3.5g because they launched their lte network as 4g. So technically when tmo launches lte it will be tmos 5g. They changed the definition of the whole thing a while ago. G stands for generation. So that is why tmobile is allowed to call it 4g because it is their 4 generation of high speed internet. There is no actually standard. like edge being 2g hspa being 3g lte 4g the way it should be.
For the roms that use the h, h+, 3g format usually 3g actually EDGE or 2g. H is 3g and h+ is 4g So the net is probally not broken it is just ridiculously slow. I hope I explained that right. That is what it seems like to me from GOOGLEING it.

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Tmobiles 3g and 4g network are the same the 4g is actually just 3g with better antenna technology and I think a power boost. The 3g network is called hspa and 4g is hspa+. That is why att had 3g 3.5g and 4g att considered the hspa+ 3.5g because they launched their lte network as 4g. So technically when tmo launches lte it will be tmos 5g. They changed the definition of the whole thing a while ago. G stands for generation. So that is why tmobile is allowed to call it 4g because it is their 4 generation of high speed internet. There is no actually standard. like edge being 2g hspa being 3g lte 4g the way it should be.
For the roms that use the h, h+, 3g format usually 3g actually EDGE or 2g. H is 3g and h+ is 4g So the net is probally not broken it is just ridiculously slow. I hope I explained that right. That is what it seems like to me from GOOGLEING it.
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Hey thanks for that info. I tested out all networks again...
4G = Fast Data.
3G = No Data AT ALL.
Edge = Slow Data.
If T-Mobile's 4G and 3G networks are the same thing, why don't I get data when the phone says it's connected to a 3G tower? I had 3G service with my previous phone and it had decent data speed. I could stream music and browse the web easily. Now... 3G just doesn't work at all.

acideater said:
Hey thanks for that info. I tested out all networks again...
4G = Fast Data.
3G = No Data AT ALL.
Edge = Slow Data.
If T-Mobile's 4G and 3G networks are the same thing, why don't I get data when the phone says it's connected to a 3G tower? I had 3G service with my previous phone and it had decent data speed. I could stream music and browse the web easily. Now... 3G just doesn't work at all.
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Thanks fo that. Thats what im talking about. I have my other phone (nexus s) and works with 3g tower. Note 2 dosent works. Im going to call tmobile customer service to complain lol
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I called tmobile today and the technical support told me they are going refering this issue to the engeniere to look forward what can be happening with this problem, bcse is not normal. We supposed to use tge 3g network too. Sorry my english is bad.
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Bestplayer55 said:
I called tmobile today and the technical support told me they are going refering this issue to the engeniere to look forward what can be happening with this problem, bcse is not normal. We supposed to use tge 3g network too. Sorry my english is bad.
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Cool man keep us updated!!