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Still pretty new, my history is as such...rooted, installed Juggernaut 3.7, then flashed 2.3.6 wifi calling Rom a few weeks ago WITHOUT wiping. Now ready to flash Jugg 4.1 and it requires a "wipe". So I have a few questions so I better understand this and what I'm actually deleting.
-Is anything on my SD card at risk when wiping?
-First and foremost I want to make sure I don't lose any pics from my gallery, all are stored on my sd card. Contacts and calender are via google.
-Titanium Backup - what should I be backing up off this huge list of stuff?? Just the apps that I personally installed that I want to keep, like game saves? Or is this where I would save my memos?
-CWM - the backup from here is JUST for the ROM/operating system files?? I made backups of my original stock ROM and everything before I installed Jugg 3.7. Is there any reason I would want to or need to backup my current 2.3.6 Whitehawkx rom if all these ROM's are still available for download? Again, just trying to understand WHY we're doing all of this.
-Why do I show an SD card and an External SD card? Do I not just have the ONE sd card that I put in the phone??
Thanks for your help! I don't mind just following instructions, but it drives me nuts not to understand WHY I'm doing something. Or in some cases assuming I know and screwing something up!
escrowdog said:
Still pretty new, my history is as such...rooted, installed Juggernaut 3.7, then flashed 2.3.6 wifi calling Rom a few weeks ago WITHOUT wiping. Now ready to flash Jugg 4.1 and it requires a "wipe". So I have a few questions so I better understand this and what I'm actually deleting.
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A full wipe means going into recovery.
wipe data/factory reset.
wipe cache.
wipe davlik.
escrowdog said:
-Is anything on my SD card at risk when wiping?
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No, unless you format your SD card.
escrowdog said:
-First and foremost I want to make sure I don't lose any pics from my gallery, all are stored on my sd card. Contacts and calender are via google.
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They should be safe. I've never had a problem.
escrowdog said:
-Titanium Backup - what should I be backing up off this huge list of stuff?? Just the apps that I personally installed that I want to keep, like game saves? Or is this where I would save my memos?
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When you open Titanium BackUp, click on Backup/Restore up on top.
Press the menu button.
Press Batch.
Press Run Backup all user apps. (do not backup system data, it might create problems when you switch/update roms)
Wait for it to finish.
(You can also backup "Wi-Fi Access Points" if you do not want to have to re-enter that info. I do not use bluetooth, but i think you could also save "Settings/Bluetooth...." and possibly "Bluetooth Pairings". They are all in Green text.)
escrowdog said:
-CWM - the backup from here is JUST for the ROM/operating system files?? I made backups of my original stock ROM and everything before I installed Jugg 3.7. Is there any reason I would want to or need to backup my current 2.3.6 Whitehawkx rom if all these ROM's are still available for download? Again, just trying to understand WHY we're doing all of this.
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You want to do a Nandroid backup to fall back on in case something goes wrong or you do not like the new rom.
escrowdog said:
Thanks for your help! I don't mind just following instructions, but it drives me nuts not to understand WHY I'm doing something. Or in some cases assuming I know and screwing something up!
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No problem.
[QUOTE=_eroz;20804419]A full wipe means going into recovery.
wipe data/factory reset.
wipe cache.
wipe davlik.
No, unless you format your SD card.
They should be safe. I've never had a problem.
When you open Titanium BackUp, click on Backup/Restore up on top.
Press the menu button.
Press Batch.
Press Run Backup all user apps. (do not backup system data, it might create problems when you switch/update roms)
Wait for it to finish.
(You can also backup "Wi-Fi Access Points" if you do not want to have to re-enter that info. I do not use bluetooth, but i think you could also save "Settings/Bluetooth...." and possibly "Bluetooth Pairings". They are all in Green text.)
You want to do a Nandroid backup to fall back on in case something goes wrong or you do not like the new rom.
No problem.[/QUOTE]
Just wanna say great answer for anyone unknowing...
Wow! Thank you!! Excellent information.
What is Nandroid backup?? I've heard this before as well. I thought I had all the bases covered with CWM and Titanium?
escrowdog said:
Wow! Thank you!! Excellent information.
What is Nandroid backup?? I've heard this before as well. I thought I had all the bases covered with CWM and Titanium?
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that is the backup you perform in CWM.
Reboot into Recovery.
Scroll down to "backup and restore", Press the Power button.
Scroll to "Backup", Press the Power button.
Wait for it to finish.
_eroz said:
that is the backup you perform in CWM.
Reboot into Recovery.
Scroll down to "backup and restore", Press the Power button.
Scroll to "Backup", Press the Power button.
Wait for it to finish.
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Okay, cool, thank you! Where does this backup to...SD card or to a partition on the phone?
So why do I show an SD card and an External SD card?? I remember being confused by this before as to where to actually drop the ROM zip.
escrowdog said:
Okay, cool, thank you! Where does this backup to...SD card or to a partition on the phone?
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It saves it to the external SD card.
escrowdog said:
So why do I show an SD card and an External SD card?? I remember being confused by this before as to where to actually drop the ROM zip.
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This phone shows the 16gb internal storage as SD card and your actual sd card as the External SD card. You can place the Rom zip in either. You just need to remember which.
_eroz said:
It saves it to the external SD card.
This phone shows the 16gb internal storage as SD card and your actual sd card as the External SD card. You can place the Rom zip in either. You just need to remember which.
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Okay, that's what I THOUGHT but....
Thank you again, learned a ton here! Feeling more confident about doing this stuff knowing I'm backing up properly.
_eroz said:
that is the backup you perform in CWM.
Reboot into Recovery.
Scroll down to "backup and restore", Press the Power button.
Scroll to "Backup", Press the Power button.
Wait for it to finish.
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Also, I went into Rom Manager and initiated the backup from there...it went into clockwork recovery and did the backup.
Just loaded up Jugg 4.1 all is well.
Restoring from the free version of Titanium. The batch operation keeps hanging up. It will install a few apps, then hang on one. Any trick?
Yeah, that occasionally happens. Do the batch restore but uncheck the app that hangs. When it is done, restore the lone app. Or restore the apps one at a time.
_eroz said:
Yeah, that occasionally happens. Do the batch restore but uncheck the app that hangs. When it is done, restore the lone app. Or restore the apps one at a time.
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I think it was because the first app that restored was Zedge and I click OPEN after it installed, instead of DONE. I closed everything and restarted the backup process and just clicked DONE on everything it went smooth! Learning by doing!
Juggernaut ROM is a drug.
Excellent questions and answers. Great post.
ninrocket said:
Excellent questions and answers. Great post.
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Thanks. There are so many steps and things to do when rooting and flashing and wiping. All the developers do a pretty good job of telling you what steps to do, but terminology gets blurred for anyone not familiar and creates a lot unnecessary posts. Like the Nandroid backup...why isn't called a CWM backup!!?? That's the program that creates it!! Once you know you KNOW. But I think a really informative Q and A would help a lot more people get comfortable rooting and flashing their phones...which I think is what all dev's want...LOTS of downloads. Not to mention these phones are SO much more enjoyable and functional with root and custom roms.
Hi everyone,
I got a question. Is it a must to wipe before flashing a rom? For example, I'm on a rom and i want to flash another rom. Why is it a must to wipe it? What happens if I don't wipe it and flash a new rom?
Kind regards,
Semih
Its not a must but its highly recommended if you don't sometimes you'll get bootloops, sometimes you'll get random crashes and apps not working or you could get very lucky and everything might work fine. You should at least wipe the /cache partition, you won't lose any data.
semihsikier said:
Hi everyone,
I got a question. Is it a must to wipe before flashing a rom? For example, I'm on a rom and i want to flash another rom. Why is it a must to wipe it? What happens if I don't wipe it and flash a new rom?
Kind regards,
Semih
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if you are on the same rom and the dev updates then most of the times no it is no need to update. if you are trying different roms though then yeah best to do is wipe. if you go into ARHD thread in the first page there is a script called superwipe. download that and flash it before you flash a new rom and that will do all the wipes for you. or just do it the old fashion way in recovery and reason why to wipe sometimes so you do not have old system data from previous roms
NoobTerminator said:
if you are on the same rom and the dev updates then most of the times no it is no need to update. if you are trying different roms though then yeah best to do is wipe. if you go into ARHD thread in the first page there is a script called superwipe. download that and flash it before you flash a new rom and that will do all the wipes for you. or just do it the old fashion way in recovery and reason why to wipe sometimes so you do not have old system data from previous roms
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Also make sure 100% you have your Rom on your sd as you can't mount sd in recovery and after running there is no system.
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treebill said:
Also make sure 100% you have your Rom on your sd as you can't mount sd in recovery and after running there is no system.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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And also a backup..that is the most important thing...went through a lot of threads that i read and most of the people on some threads ask on how to restore using RUU cause they do not have a backup of their stock rom..So please always make a backup my friend
It's not. They call that a "dirty flash". I've never done it but I've heard that it's not advised.
I want to flash a new rom, but i don't want to use titanium backup to restore my apps, thats to much time. And if I wipe it, my settings will lost. So, i don't want to do it. But it seems that I have to do it, otherwise i'll get some errors and bootloops etc. I thank you all for your fast reply. I'll wipe my phone
A nandroid backup. If I do it while on the old rom, can I restore it on the new rom? not an updated rom, just another rom of another developer..
semihsikier said:
I want to flash a new rom, but i don't want to use titanium backup to restore my apps, thats to much time. And if I wipe it, my settings will lost. So, i don't want to do it. But it seems that I have to do it, otherwise i'll get some errors and bootloops etc. I thank you all for your fast reply. I'll wipe my phone
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contacts you can save them if you have a google account my friend. regarding backing up apps with Titanium backup if you have the Pro version it is all a matter on a few clicks. so my advise would be get it if you do not have the Pro version
semihsikier said:
A nandroid backup. If I do it while on the old rom, can I restore it on the new rom? not an updated rom, just another rom of another developer..
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Yeah thats fine, I usually flash the old rom first then restore the backup when coming from cm9 or miui to stock to avoid bootloops etc.
NoobTerminator said:
contacts you can save them if you have a google account my friend. regarding backing up apps with Titanium backup if you have the Pro version it is all a matter on a few clicks. so my advise would be get it if you do not have the Pro version
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Yes, I have the pro version, thats not a problem. Ok, I'm going to wipe it for the safety. Thanks a lot
semihsikier said:
Yes, I have the pro version, thats not a problem. Ok, I'm going to wipe it for the safety. Thanks a lot
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no problem mate
So the new update for AOKP http://aokp.co/index.php/releases/_/jb-build-2-r29 has pretty neat features. I am going to flash it to maximize my GNex's potential.
Just a noob question, I understand that flashing new ROMs will wipe my data. Can i restore all apps, apps settings, files on virtual SD like camera roll and downloads folder, as well as system settings simply by using Titanium Backup?
Would not want to risk all my data. Thanks.
jellymelly said:
So the new update for AOKP http://aokp.co/index.php/releases/_/jb-build-2-r29 has pretty neat features. I am going to flash it to maximize my GNex's potential.
Just a noob question, I understand that flashing new ROMs will wipe my data. Can i restore all apps, apps settings, files on virtual SD like camera roll and downloads folder, as well as system settings simply by using Titanium Backup?
Would not want to risk all my data. Thanks.
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If your bootloader is unlocked: yes, you can root (if you haven't done it already) and use TiB to backup apps + app data. Installing a ROM will not wipe your /sdcard. It's always a good idea to back it up though before a flash. Use TiB to restore apps + appdata to your new AOKP ROM. Be careful with system apps and settings, restoring such data can lead to issues.
If your bootloader is locked and you don't have root: not easily. Unlocking it will wipe your /sdcard, you need it unlocked to gain root, and you need root to use TiB. Your best bet in that case is this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351. Follow the guide to gain root and restore the ADB backup. Then proceed with TiB and new ROM flash.
Petrovski80 said:
If your bootloader is unlocked: yes, you can root (if you haven't done it already) and use TiB to backup apps + app data. Installing a ROM will not wipe your /sdcard. It's always a good idea to back it up though before a flash. Use TiB to restore apps + appdata to your new AOKP ROM. Be careful with system apps and settings, restoring such data can lead to issues.
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Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that I am rooted and has an unlocked bootloader already.
Just one more question: people say to wipe data before switching to a new ROM (stock -> AOKP in my case).
- Will it be OK if I don't wipe? I don't really want to set all my system settings up again
- And will wiping data/factory reset erase everything in SD card?
jellymelly said:
Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that I am rooted and has an unlocked bootloader already.
Just one more question: people say to wipe data before switching to a new ROM (stock -> AOKP in my case).
- Will it be OK if I don't wipe? I don't really want to set all my system settings up again
- And will wiping data/factory reset erase everything in SD card?
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You have to wipe or it simply won't work.
If you were going from an older version of AOKP to a newer version you wouldn't have to wipe; however, since you're coming from stock (a completely different ROM) data won't be compatible and you will have to wipe.
Note: not wiping will cause a bootloop.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Factory reset in a custom recovery will not touch your virtual sdcard.
Post two of the guide linked in my SIG.
Jubakuba said:
Post two of the guide linked in my SIG.
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haha should have posted earlier. I am literally pressing the the button to install apps manually... TiB Pro could have saved me 60 presses already... Your post should be stickied!
It is stickied =]
But yeah, the pro key is definitely worth it.
This is my first custom flash off stock. I have actually had some experience flashing due to accidently flashing from LH9 to LG1, which doesn't work. So I had to install TWRP, do a factory reset, root it, and install LH9 from there.
But I plan on trying out CM10 and I have a few question.
A) Can I just flash CM10 in ROM Manager since it is built in?
B) How can I keep my apps, app data, account data, folders,settings...etc? I have both CWM Pro and Titanium Backup Pro installed.
C) Is there anything that is worse in CM10 than Touchwiz?
D) If I don't like CM10, I can go into CWM ROM Manager and just restore my Backup, correct?
To be honest you need to flash it and give a shot and see what you think, everybody loves something different.
Download from the cm10 build from the link in the xda thread and also get the 10/12 gapps.
Boot to recovery and make a NANDROID BACKUP!
When you install, you will need to do a full wipe.(Wipe Data/Wipe Cache/Wipe Dalvik/Format System in that order to be safe
Flash the cm10 rom and the flash the 10/12 gapps.
Then Reboot!
And enjoy the goodness!
I love CM10 or AOKP much better than TW, just my opinion.
Hope this helps!:cyclops:
GilaMonster1 said:
This is my first custom flash off stock. I have actually had some experience flashing due to accidently flashing from LH9 to LG1, which doesn't work. So I had to install TWRP, do a factory reset, root it, and install LH9 from there.
But I plan on trying out CM10 and I have a few question.
A) Can I just flash CM10 in ROM Manager since it is built in?
B) How can I keep my apps, app data, account data, folders,settings...etc? I have both CWM Pro and Titanium Backup Pro installed.
C) Is there anything that is worse in CM10 than Touchwiz?
D) If I don't like CM10, I can go into CWM ROM Manager and just restore my Backup, correct?
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QnA bud. Good to see you're starting to flash tho.
I've tried many, many ROMs on my S3 but I keep going back to CM10. Even though it's not a stable release for my model it's still awesome
Couldn't I just use ROM Manager since CM10 in on there and wipe data and cache?
Isn't the CWM ROM Manager backup a Nandroid?
How could I keep my apps and most my data...etc?
I appreciate your help, but I was knew how to do it in that way
Use Titanium to backup all your apps & data, boot to CWM recovery take a backup and install CM10 then restore your apps from Titanium, should be that easy!
Yeah, perhaps you guys don't use it, but my question remains. I've backed up using ROM Manager and transferred that image to my PC for an external copy. Couldn't I just install CM10 using ROM Manger as it is supported? Isn't that backup a NANdroid?
Or is it just not preferable?
Thanks for any help guys/
Can someone please answer my questions?
rom manager simply boots into recovery for you and makes the backup itself, etc. however, if you want to do more (wipe /system, etc) you need to go into recovery manually and do it.
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cehf said:
rom manager simply boots into recovery for you and makes the backup itself, etc. however, if you want to do more (wipe /system, etc) you need to go into recovery manually and do it.
sent from my I747
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So basically I should can ROM Manager to upgrade CM10 or restore, but not flash new ROMS?
GilaMonster1 said:
So basically I should can ROM Manager to upgrade CM10 or restore, but not flash new ROMS?
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i'm confused by your wording, sorry. rom manager would be suitable to your needs. it can install a rom for you, but it will only wipe data/factory reset. it will not wipe /system or dalvik cache like so many installation instructions say to do. rom manager can backup your rom and restore your backup.
so yes, you can use it if you choose to, but learning to use cwm would probably be easier in the long run than needing to rely on an app.
sent from my I747
How would I keep photo or music that are on my phone's memory? Aren't they in a SD parition?
GilaMonster1 said:
How would I keep photo or music that are on my phone's memory? Aren't they in a SD parition?
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they are either on the internal sd card or one that you inserted into your phone. you won't lose any data on those.
GilaMonster1 said:
Can someone please answer my questions?
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You should really do some reading over in the development section. They're full of information that can answer all these questions you have.
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OK, so I'm used to phones with external SD cards where backing up was very easy. With the GN its a pain in the ass. After flashing a rom and factory resetting it, CWM can not find my back ups. I can see them with root explorer on the "sdcard" but CWM doesn't. I tried dragging them to /data/media/, but cwm doesn't see them.
I saved the back up to my pc before resetting as well. Where can I put it so CWM sees it?
I have the same problem with Titanium Back up. I backed up all apps and data, but after the wipe they were gone. I saved the back up on my PC but now I don't see a titanium backup folder to drag them too.
I realize this question has been asked before but all my research points me to dead ends.
Any help would be appreciated.
edit: was able to to drag an old backup to CWM, tried to restore and it failed. Phone is now stuck at Google logo :/. Factory resetting it again did not help.
update your CWM.
Zepius said:
update your CWM.
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It doesn't matter, I flashed back to stock and rerooted. How can I avoid this in the future. It seems that if I wipe data I lose my back ups. How can I save my back ups in the future?
Zepius said:
update your CWM.
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If you just put your backup in data/media/ then CWM might not see it. Mine are in data/media/clockworkmod/backup/
This is why I use TWRP now.
I've had a bad CWM backup/restore operation fail. I think the dev of CWM is losing the ball and TWRP is starting to become the better recovery solution now.
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akira02rex said:
This is why I use TWRP now.
I've had a bad CWM backup/restore operation fail. I think the dev of CWM is losing the ball and TWRP is starting to become the better recovery solution now.
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I've never once had any errors or failed operations or issues of any kind since using CWM Recovery. Even with my old phone (which was not technically CWM, but based on it). Its hard for me to blame CWM and say that those issues are NOT user error.
If you go from a 4.1.X ROM to a 4.2.X ROM then you will have this problem because it changes the file structure that android uses. Same would occur on TWR. You just need to move the files to the correct location after the fact.
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pyroemaniac said:
If you go from a 4.1.X ROM to a 4.2.X ROM then you will have this problem because it changes the file structure that android uses. Same would occur on TWR. You just need to move the files to the correct location after the fact.
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Problem is that I tried moving the backup from the old location to the new. When I tried to restore, it failed and never was able to boot past the google logo. I had to unroot and flash back to stock. A great feature that I wish CWM had would be to direct it to where we keep the backup and just restore from there. Since the change from 4.1 to 4.2 I have read many people having similar issues.
Do you have cwm making a md5 for your backup? If not hat is the only time I've had trouble restoring. I've switched from 4.2 to 4.1 and vice versa multiple times without problems.
Also are you using cwm touch or non touch?
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Also, like others have said, make sure you are using the latest CWM. You can easily get it by downloading ROM manager and selecting "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". It will also tell you what version you have and what version is the latest.
Thanks for the help. I'm also having problems with titanium back up. I copied the backup folder before the wipe, I dragged the files back to the titanium back up folder but TB doesn't recognize the back ups.
spillner said:
Thanks for the help. I'm also having problems with titanium back up. I copied the backup folder before the wipe, I dragged the files back to the titanium back up folder but TB doesn't recognize the back ups.
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In Titanium Backup, select menu then preferences. Scroll down and select backup folder location. Tap the "detect" button then whole device. It should find it.
Also I'd grab a cheap otg adapter... And a 32gig min flash drive to backup to. I have mine run overnight (otg w/charging port) it's basically like having external just deciding when you need it
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pyroemaniac said:
If you go from a 4.1.X ROM to a 4.2.X ROM then you will have this problem because it changes the file structure that android uses. Same would occur on TWR. You just need to move the files to the correct location after the fact.
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an up to date version of CWM or TWRP will 'move' (actually rename with the new path) your file system for you so you don't have to do it manually - that's why peeps keep on telling you to update your recovery...
help!
spillner said:
Problem is that I tried moving the backup from the old location to the new. When I tried to restore, it failed and never was able to boot past the google logo. I had to unroot and flash back to stock. A great feature that I wish CWM had would be to direct it to where we keep the backup and just restore from there. Since the change from 4.1 to 4.2 I have read many people having similar issues.
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I have the same exact problem. When I try to move the backup to the main sdcard directory (a 3 gig file) it fails halfway through. No matter if I use adb push or windows/mtp to copy/paste the file.
Any ideas? Please help, I just want to restore my old rom with all my data. I dont care about 4.2 if I dont have my data.
EDIT:
I FIXED IT! This is how I did it. I had backed up my SD card (including clockwork backups) to my computer using adb pull. So I used clockworkmod recovery to format the SD card and /data/media. Then I started up the phone. I used windows to copy the backups to the phone. Now when I went to clockwork and tried to use the restore backup, it worked correctly. I'm now back to my old phone
I have a solution
spillner said:
OK, so I'm used to phones with external SD cards where backing up was very easy. With the GN its a pain in the ass. After flashing a rom and factory resetting it, CWM can not find my back ups. I can see them with root explorer on the "sdcard" but CWM doesn't. I tried dragging them to /data/media/, but cwm doesn't see them.
I saved the back up to my pc before resetting as well. Where can I put it so CWM sees it?
I have the same problem with Titanium Back up. I backed up all apps and data, but after the wipe they were gone. I saved the back up on my PC but now I don't see a titanium backup folder to drag them too.
I realize this question has been asked before but all my research points me to dead ends.
Any help would be appreciated.
edit: was able to to drag an old backup to CWM, tried to restore and it failed. Phone is now stuck at Google logo :/. Factory resetting it again did not help.
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I was able to solve this problem. Check my post (above this) and the edit! Goodluck!
Reviving this thread
I am reviving this thread because I would like to know if there is any way to preserve CWM backups and Titanium Backup files when wiping data for a new ROM install.
Is it possible to create a symlink using terminal and link to a static directory which could be protected from wiping data? This is granted the shell permits symlinks.
Thoughts?