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Roaming and 20ft away full signal

Hello. I have a real curious question. At my house I have practically no signal. I actually roam at times. If I walk to the metro bus stop which is literally like less than a 30 second walk across the street, I get full signal. Fastest 3G/4G speeds ever. It doesn't make any sense.
I think I'm living in a dead spot. Could there be something at my house messing up my signal? It just doesn't make any sense for me to have no signal, then I walk across the street and flourish in signal.
I'm on Sprint. Its luckily no big deal since we have wifi, but I do kinda want a backup plan.
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No_Nickname90 said:
Hello. I have a real curious question. At my house I have practically no signal. I actually roam at times. If I walk to the metro bus stop which is literally like less than a 30 second walk across the street, I get full signal. Fastest 3G/4G speeds ever. It doesn't make any sense.
I think I'm living in a dead spot. Could there be something at my house messing up my signal? It just doesn't make any sense for me to have no signal, then I walk across the street and flourish in signal.
I'm on Sprint. Its luckily no big deal since we have wifi, but I do kinda want a backup plan.
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A lot of the materials used in construction of homes can lead to blocking or weakening of signals. There are also several other factors that can effect it but there are so many to go into it would be a book before we finished this post.
The best way to picture it is to imagine one of the old TV sets with the rabbit ear antenna on top. You had to have those ears just the right distance apart, at just the right angle, at just the right length to get a clear picture. The second dad walked in front of the TV, Mom bumped the antenna out of position or the sun started to set your show got all fuzzy again. Then you were stuck messing around until you got the picture just right again.
So I guess basically what I'm saying is just be aware that your phone may not work in some spots and plan accordingly if you need to make a phone call or use your phone for internet.
Another thing to look at is getting an AirWave through Sprint. I've heard that if you have roaming issues in your home they will actually send you one for free.

Thanks. Our house was made in the 1950's so I'm guessing it has something to do with the material. My answer was to link everything through Google Voice. Best alternative for my case. Since Google Voice uses data and I have WiFi, I can get the messages and calls I need. I didn't have this problem with Tmo, though. I'm guessing it's a frequency thing and material. Don't really care for details. Just a curious question. Thanks again for your insight.
Phandroid posted an article about and Umbrella that boosts Wireless signals and can charge your phone. Think I should get that? LoL!! An AirWave just seems to extreme for my case. If it's really that bad, I'll just walk across the street. =.P

I called Sprint's retention department about horrible roaming in my house and they're sending me an Airave for free. I had to question them and like say "why do I have to pay additional because your service is roaming in my house when it's in fair coverage"? So they waived the monthly AND the one time fee of $129.99 for the unit. Give them a try. I get mine this week.

The building materials play a big part in your reception. Things like stucco, bricks, wiring, etc... And if you have a lot of EMI that would be another factor, do you ever experience intermittent wireless connectivity at home? Slow speeds, random disconnections, inconsistent signal?
Do you happen to have your own tesla coil by chance?... That was a joke but it is something that would cause major signal loss.
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You would be amazed at what affects signal. A friend of mine used to get perfect signal in his house even in hugs basement until the day he installed new carpet in his living room. Now he can only get signal on the second floor of his house.
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My office in my house is a cluster of EMF between desktops, servers, countless little transformers, two wifi units, ip cams, several amateur radio ht's,etc. The air rave is like 35 feet away and I only get 1or 2 bars most of the time.
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I thought about using the airave but I have read bad reviews on it and have even had people at sprints stores tell me they werent worth the money. I only have 1-2 bars in my room and I walk out side and get 3-4. Odd thing is at work i bounce between full service and one bar under that and speeds are the same as if I am standing outside at home with less recption. I have used several different modems and tey all seem to follow the same sort of trend. crappy thing is i dont work or live in the boonies or anything. I wish Sprint would step the game up I have been with them for 5 years now and I am seriously thinking of going over to verizon because of the massive difference in speeds.

Torn. Keep E4GT or get GN2?

I've been due for an upgrade for a few months now, was waiting on the GS3 then heard about the Note 2. I know the Note 2 will be my next phone. The only thing stopping me is lack of LTE coverage in my area.
Major reason for staying with my E4GT is Wimax. I use it to tether at home. Leaving Wimax for 3G on the Note 2 would be a noticeable difference.
Thoughts?

Went from et4g to s3 to note 2 and haven't looked back. The 3g in St Louis is awful but I couldn't pass up the hardware of the other 2 phones. I can use wifi at home and get by with 3g for the time being. My wife's s2 feels like a toy after the other two I have used now.
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And this alone makes up for it...
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Check S4gru.com to see when Sprint LTE will be available in your area
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I changed on release day. It's so awesome that I can't even describe how much better the phone is.
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Haha,
You guys are awesome and I see all of your points. I wonder if I post in the E4GT forum if I'd get different responses.
If I had wifi at my house I would've gone with the GN2 at launch.
I've checked S4gru and apparently Orange County isn't getting LTE until the middle of 2013. That's a long time to wait for someone who runs their internet via tether. I called Sprint a few times and they couldn't give me an answer one way or another when LTE would be lit in my area.

I was in the EXACT same dilemma as you (OP), I was on my old Evo4G and had great Wimax connection and speeds. But after watching all of the videos for the options(software) and hardware I couldn't pass it up. But then again I know that LTE is coming to my area within a month and a half. But regardless after picking up this device I am sooo happy I did, even with 3g which internet surfing is fine on really I just use the multiple page loader in the browser(tabs basically) and i have a few pages open and switch between them while surfing. Ex) open two on XDA then maybe one on PA another on AA and maybe another on TB (phonearena, technoBuffalo,AndroidAuthority) along with other sites after changing. Then just click a link on one after reading an article or thread then flip to the next which has the page loaded already(which loaded while I was reading my previous thread or article). And you don't even notice the difference with that method. Not to mention the 3g isn't all that bad anyways nowadays. Yes compared to 4g it is horrible but hey.
In short YES upgrade. if you dont want to take a good hour to 2 to get it setup at home with 3g which I did and it wasn't bad at all. I am speaking of using the Play market and downloading all the apps you want, then maybe stop at a Wi-fi hotspot and piggyback. hit a Mcdonald's or Starbucks.
I sure hope when the LTE hits here in my area it is comparable to AT&T the speeds on the tablet in my household connected to that is crazy fast. 42mb/s - 48mb/s

Orange County CA? LTE is due in Riverside in April....and i know the OC started before Riverside.
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Orange County CA? LTE is due in Riverside in April....and i know the OC started before Riverside.
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How do you know this?
Yup. OC, CA. April is 6 months away.
And let me play devils advocate for a sec: What good is this phone if Internet is so slow it's almost unusable (at times).

To the OP simply_Dave and the poster above me, you guys know you are looking at the "Launch date" for Orange County which is April. The launch date is when it is roughly 45-50% completed, chances are if you live in a populated area of OC you could be using the LTE market much before. Basically how is works is you can pick up signal much before the date but if you are having spotty coverage or issues dont complain cause they haven't "launched" it yet. But you know your city, Like for instance in mine on a map our City covers roughly a 25mile diameter each way from downtown, but my actual address and location is literally within the actual city. So when they start work in my City in December I will theoretically have 4gLTE fairly quickly(which has also been verified by acquaintances at Sprint). Although my city doesn't Officially "Launch" until June 2013.
I'm stoked though cause I have a Sprint tower that is scheduled for an LTE upgrade within a 1/4mile of my house!!

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S4Gru.com
People have already seen many crews beggining work all around us. A few weeks ago my service was horrible, and a tower was down (my guess is due to matinence). But like I said, I am pretty sure OC is due to release prior to us in Riverside, but check that site for when it is expected to drop...I will see if I can find the link to the specific completion rate for you and post it here when I find it.

The Administrator on S4Gru.com seems to believe LTE will launch in the OC in Q1 of 2013....that is if you do not live in Brea, Yorba Linda, or Placentia.

That's great news! Thanks for the look up. Maybe I should make the jump. I just ordered a bunch of new cases for my E4GT too. Haha.

I'm in the same position. I use 4G tether on my E4GT *all the time*. Wimax speeds for me are 6-8Mb during the day, 8-10Mb during the night. I just bought a new Anker battery for the E4GT and i love the screen brightness, etc., but especially the speeds with my tablet. What makes it worse is that i have the Note 10.1 with quad core 1.4 with 2GB and i know how good this tablet is, i only expect wonderous things from the Note 2 consdering it's a higher spec'd processor with near same specs.
At this point, i think it's safe to assume not to go with GS3 - even with the Best buy deals coming up. I *would* suggest waiting 2-3 weeks though....if you are thinking of upgrading. It looks to be a great phone with great battery and great screen and great camera. I'm not sure there isn't something great about this phone, honestly, but that's still to be said about radio reception because i had to recently get rid of my GS3 because it was a worse radio than my E4GT - off topic, i know, so back on topic - wait 2-3 weeks if you must get this (and if you love samsung, you MUSTget this) i would keep the E4GT around though - for those times you want to SWAP back to use your tether through sprint.com/activate website. Enjoy...

I moved from the E4GT to the GN2 and I live in an area that has wimax and lte
The sprint LTE speeds for me are:
About the same download as WIMAX for me 6-10 mb/s
faster upload speeds, Wimax is capped at around 1 mb/s my LTE has gotten anywhere from 2-4 mb/s
(No these are not anywhere near the crazy att and verizon lte speeds but still very usable)
Ping times are faster for me on LTE than they were on wimax
ability to hold the connection seems better for me on lte. It used to drop for me with wimax causing downloads to error, streaming music to stop etc.
As long as i stay in coverage area my connection seems pretty stable on lte.
As far as everything else there is pretty much nothing not to love. I look around my apartment and wonder why I have so many charging cables laying around now since now i just plug it in every day or two or three.

Phone wise, I also made the switch from the ET4G and its like night and day. Longer battery and better all around phone (I also have a Note tablet...)
Since your using it as your internet makes it a tougher decision.
I gave up having Wimax in the hope to have LTE in the near future.
For now I use my 40mbs WiFi and I have about 1.75mbs 3G at my home address.

Meh, think I'm going to keep my phone with wimax. I tried living with internet at 3G and just couldn't do it. I didn't go for more then 10 mins before getting frustrated and turning on Wimax. :/

One reason to get the note
.:Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Note II:.

I'm sure you know that tethering is not yet working on GN2. I have seen one report of bluetooth based tethering working but a no go for me. If your area isn't getting lte for while there's no upside to the GN2. It's a great phone mind you but no tethering for the time being.

Reception In Fringe Areas

Does anybody else have horrible reception problems in week signal areas?
I know how that sounds... but, what I mean is in the city, with the corporate PRL (56xxx) and the LJ7 radio, I get better signals then I ever have with my Moment or S2, roaming or native.
However, when I go out of town into a Cellcom area, I drop to no signal unless I am practically on top of a tower.
My Sprint tablet and S2 get decent roaming signals ( 2-3 bars) while my S3 gets no service, despite multiple combinations of radios and PRL's.
Any ideas? Bad antenna connection? Bad phone?
Thanks!
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I've noticed the signal roams and just flat out drops in certsin areas. Maybe it's just the antenna? I'm in So Cal.
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I've noticed the signal roams and just flat out drops in certsin areas. Maybe it's just the antenna? I'm in So Cal.
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I'm in Wisconsin.
I have also noticed that my phone roams more often than any other Sprint device that I have.
The S2 and S3 should be identical as far which cellular frequencies they listen to... so there shouldn't be any reason that the S2 gets service in 90 percent of the places the S3 doesn't even get roaming service.
I wonder how likely it is that the antenna write somehow got disconnected when I dropped the phone at some point in the past?
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I live in an area that is rated as "Good / Best" for Voice, with solid 3G coverage (per their site map & past phone experience) but do not have LTE available here yet.
I've had the GS3 for < a day and was able to test side by side just moments apart from deactivating my old HTC phone.
I immediately went from a 3 year old phone getting -80dBm to -92dBm on the GS3. I have used the 3G on my HTC phone day in and out here for the entire 3 years of the phone, when suddenly, the GS3 was timing out while trying to download Google Chrome from the Play Store. Web page loads are bursty... hot/cold/hot/cold and SpeedTest.Net App seems to confirm the story...
I could not complete SpeedTest.Net due to "communication issues" nor download anything until I forced the phone to CDMA only. Unfortunately, even though I can now USE the phone, the speeds are still kinda rough:
Pings are ranging 800ms - 1300ms consistently ( I was used to 200ms or less )
Downloads are 30-80kbps, I was used to 350-500k.
Brief Real-world testing of moving through web pages, loading videos and browsing the playstore also lean towards the numbers I'm seeing.
Not sure about what to do. Maybe the HTC EVO 4G LTE would have better signal. It's hard to determine without personally testing, there's a LOT of complaints both ways, on both forums. I'll continue to evaluate and give it a chance to improve. Maybe it was a bad night last night.

The word thing is that I get better speeds and reception on Sprint's network in Milwaukee than I do with my S2.
As soon as I leave the city, or even leave Sprint's network, the S3 becomes prone to LOS while the S2 chugs along happily.
And, as I said before, this is with the same PRL.
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I've been noticing a lot more random LOS, and other signal issues in areas I've had signal before, and good signal at that on both my Photon and iphone. Is there a better PRL or Profile to use that will improve this or is it just something on Samsung's end that is gonna be what it is?

signal fluctautes

Hi guys,
Lately I have been noticing that my S4 hasn't been holding a signal as well as before. Seems to be this way since LTE rollout in my neighborhood. I get about 1 bar of LTE indoors. It seems as though the phone is more sensitive and tends to drop to E or 0 bars of 4G when it is in my pocket. Once I take it out of my pocket, it flips back to LTE in about 5 seconds.
Is this normal?

I noticed the same thing when LTE came to my neighborhood, south of Houston last week. When it is on 4G, I get full bars most of the time. As soon as the little LTE showed, I barely got 2 bars. Most of the time it's one or no bar. I manually switched my network back to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect). Now that I know Houston's LTE signal has gone widespread, I'll check it when I'm out and about to see if the signal is like that everywhere. But, for now, I'd rather make sure my calls will come in. I use WIFI at home, anyway. Maybe an updated radio will come with system upgrades.

My LTE connection up here in kingwood has been crap for the last week or so too. Kinda annoying, when I got the phone I was pulling 3 bars in my apt now it drops to E.

I have notice the same thing im in fort worth and since LTE I missed lost of calls because my phone is ether on my pocket or in side mg house I het great speeds outside though like right next to a tower lol
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same here, lte i barely get 2 bars. been like that since i got lte about a month ago. i assume its just because they are working on the towers and will take a bit to get the full benefits. Though even though i only get about 2 bars, i still get crazy speeds.

I have yet to see full bars on LTE. Everywhere I go I see two bars.
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You guys do understand that the bars are relatively arbitrary and don't really tell you much, right? If you want to know what your signal really is you need to look in settings, about phone, phone status and see what the dB reading on the phone is.
Anything above -80 is really strong
Anything between -90 and -81 is all right
Anything between -99 and 91 is a little weak but probably okay.
Anything below -100 is where you start to get into the possible dropped call territory.
Anything below -110 and you are probably not going to get a signal for more than a few seconds at a time.
There are other ways to check this as well with apps that will show signal status in widgets or on the status bar. And with many custom ROMs you can switch the signal bars to a dB reading.
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Thanks for that info.
When I was on the LTE, my db was 104-106. On regular 4G, it's on 87. That's why I've opted to stay on 4G for the time being.

I also get 1 bar of LTE when I'm indoors and then couple bars when I'm outside if I'm still in LTE area. Since Tampa isn't covered in LTE yet and some of my apps don't work at all with 1 bar of LTE, I just switched back to HSPA+ and changed the APN that better fits with HSPA+ speeds.
The HSPA+ speeds I get are just as fast as when I was with Verizon's LTE.

I called customer service and the lady told me to enable roaming. Maybe I will get better reception?
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I called customer service and the lady told me to enable roaming. Maybe I will get better reception?
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It might if there is a much stronger tower from another carrier near you. However if you utilize roaming it could cost you an arm and a leg.
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It might if there is a much stronger tower from another carrier near you. However if you utilize roaming it could cost you an arm and a leg.
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The lady said national roaming is included.
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The lady said national roaming is included.
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Now that you mention it I think you are right about voice calling. Maybe it was the data use when roaming that had the potential to be expensive. You might want to check on that just to be sure. Nothing like a $400 unexpected cell phone bill to ruin your day.
Either way you will only see an impact on signal if say an AT&T tower is the only one available as the t mobile tower should get priority even with a weaker signal. At least that's how I think it works....I reserve the right to enjoy reading a post by someone who understands tower priority more than me giving a detailed explanation of how that all works.
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Only in certain areas do I get full bars on lte, usually its 2 or 3, but rarely does it go 4g.
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Now that you mention it I think you are right about voice calling. Maybe it was the data use when roaming that had the potential to be expensive. You might want to check on that just to be sure. Nothing like a $400 unexpected cell phone bill to ruin your day.
Either way you will only see an impact on signal if say an AT&T tower is the only one available as the t mobile tower should get priority even with a weaker signal. At least that's how I think it works....I reserve the right to enjoy reading a post by someone who understands tower priority more than me giving a detailed explanation of how that all works.
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Will I be charged for domestic data roaming?
No, T-Mobile does not charge for domestic data roaming. However, once your domestic data roaming allotment has been reached your data services will be unavailable until you return to a T-Mobile coverage area, your bill cycle starts over or you increase your data plan. If you have a Wi-Fi capable device, you may use Wi-Fi to access unlimited data.
How will domestic data roaming appear on my bill?
It will not appear on your bill as there are no additional charges associated with domestic data roaming.
How will I know that I am near my domestic data roaming allotment?
You will receive a free usage alert via text message to notify you once you use 80% of your monthly domestic data roaming allotment. You will receive another free usage alert via text message to notify you when you reach 100% of your domestic data roaming allotment. These text messages will contain a link that will allow you to view your real-time usage. You can also view your domestic data usage by using the MyAccount feature on your device once you have exceeded 80% of the monthly allotment (whether you are roaming or not).
Link https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#j...d_Will_I_be_charged_for_domestic_data_roaming
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I had the same thing happen at my house in south Denver. It took three different phone calls but I finally talked to a guy in tech support who said that many people have had the same thing happen after the change to LTE in one's area. There seems to be no real solution to it. At my house the signal dropped so low that we couldn't make calls anymore and they sent me a signal booster. With the signal booster in my upstairs window we can use our phones with voice and data without problems.
I've also noticed that you have to be pretty close to a tower to get the benefits of LTE. I've been playing around speed testing with different distances and it drops off pretty quick - between 1/4-1/2 mile is about as far as you can get at least in my neighborhood.

LTE signal fluctuation is an issue right now but I will say that I'm happy that we can still fall back to hsoa+ because if we were to go from LTE to 3g (like sprint does ) I would have been one angry person.
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Ive noticed the signal become a problem too after i got lte. i dont know why.

TheAtheistOtaku said:
same here, lte i barely get 2 bars. been like that since i got lte about a month ago. i assume its just because they are working on the towers and will take a bit to get the full benefits. Though even though i only get about 2 bars, i still get crazy speeds.
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figured out why my signal fluctuates. My idiot self forgot i had my aluminum backing on it since i got it. took it off and put the stock one, instantly got full bars.

Question. .

Is there a way I can boost my signal somehow? I live in Orlando and when I'm in the field at some places I can't get 4g or very good service. For instance when I'm in Wintet Garden and as soon as I cross 50 I don't get 4g or anything. Almost like I fall off the planet. My wife has an s4 also and it does the same thing. Is it just tmo in the metro area?
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Is there a way I can boost my signal somehow? I live in Orlando and when I'm in the field at some places I can't get 4g or very good service. For instance when I'm in Wintet Garden and as soon as I cross 50 I don't get 4g or anything. Almost like I fall off the planet. My wife has an s4 also and it does the same thing. Is it just tmo in the metro area?
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Sounds like a Tmo reception issue since it happens with both devices.
You can check your dBm signal strength and see how it compares to when you're in a good signal area, both phones compared to each other, and/or individually.
Settings
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About device
Status
(see attachment below, the lower the dBm, the stronger the signal)
But it sounds like a Tower/reception proprietary issue with T-Mobile.
You can always call Tmo to ask and/or confirm this.....

Here's a few screenshots. The one with the earliest time stamp is at my house, then the next is a mile from my home and the following is a mile after
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Here's a few screenshots. The one with the earliest time stamp is at my house, then the next is a mile from my home and the following is a mile after
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According to time stamp:
Home - Edge - strongest signal - 79dBm
1 mile away - 4G - weakest 107
2 miles away - LTE - weaker 106 -
I suggest changing your Network mode to possibly the 2nd choice in the list of the 4 options. You can find that here:
Change the setting accordingly till you find the best option.
As I mentioned, call T-Mobile and ask them about their LTE Network in your area, as it is not cconsistent. At your home, you have Edge, which is the slowest speed, but strongest signal. Compared to LTE, which you're connecting to, but weak signal, so suggest to change to no LTE in that area, so it hopefully forces your device to connect to stronger signal. Or words to that affect
Let me know.....
Settings
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Try this app in the Playstore, as it will give you a better picture of your Signal strength and additional regarding your connection:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet
Some reasons why mobile phone signal can be weaker or stronger in some areas.
For instance, a very strong signal outside of a structure, but not inside a structure, etc., etc.
The following are just some basics.
Regarding your issue, it my be T-Mobile growing pains regarding their build out, could be your geographic area, etc. etc......
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_signal

Thank you. I'll try when I get home today. All is good right now but I'm sure that'll change once I'm home
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Okay this is what that app tells me. This is with me sitting outside my front door.
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You have a strong Edge signal, as per your first posts and my response.
No LTE available near your home, or 4G.
I thought the issue was when you're away from your home, you were getting weak LTE, which is why I suggested to change your setting as per my previous post, as well as calling Tmo to see network availability in your area.

Biker1 said:
You have a strong Edge signal, as per your first posts and my response.
No LTE available near your home, or 4G.
I thought the issue was when you're away from your home, you were getting weak LTE, which is why I suggested to change your setting as per my previous post, as well as calling Tmo to see network availability in your area.
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Okay this is what that app tells me. This is with me sitting outside my front door.
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that tower that is close to me I found out is only a 2g (edge) tower, T-Mobile told me that they are getting their engineers out to look at it. My phone won't switch the towers because I'm so close to it. Wonder why it won't just pull off the 4g tower? Hopefully they fix it but idk how all that goes. probably a new tower I assume?

That was mainly one of the reasons I left T Mobile where I live I got only edge and about a mile away all 4G and now I'm using my t-mobile s4 on AT&T
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