Hi people,
Been a while since ive been in the desire forums and Im a bit out of touch with all things desire.
My situation is ive come across a desire that someone gave to me an said if I can fix it I can have it! Bonus.
Problem is in all my desire days ive never come across this (there are a few related tales on the internet but they mostly deal with S-ON devices).
So the phone wont boot, when you try to it just goes into the Hboot screen, even without pressing volume down?
once in the Hboot screen the phone is totally unresponsive? Volume rocker wont let me select options even the power button fails, to turn it off you have to battery pull.
The info on the Hboot screen is;
Alpharev N1 table
Bravo PVT4 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT- 6.93.1002
Radio- 5.11.05.14
I knew it was S-OFF already because I did it for the guy thats passed it to me know.
My First idea to get this working was to get a new alpharev hboot on there and see if it helped. Nope. Putting the PB99IMG on the sd card causes the phone to freeze on "parsing zip" "Bootloader 1" Left it alone to make sure it wasnt me being hastey but nope it didnt work.
Next I thought right lets get the Stock table on it and run a RUU. I would manually push the hboot via abd/fastboot. Nope. Because the phone wont boot into fastboot (using the back and power button combo) it still boots into Hboot!? So I tried to put it into Fastboot from ADB. Nope, ADB cant see it. A note on this is that I was a very proud owner of a desire and had set up adb for it ages ago. So why wasnt it seeing this one? I am 95% certain that he had usb debugging on on the phone. But when I plugged this one into my PC it couldnt install the driver for "Android 1"? WTF thats a galaxy nexus driver isnt it? anyways, found one and thats all installed so I know I have no missing drivers. The phone knows its plugged in because the Hboot changes to HBOOT USB PLUG.
Ive tried android flasher to send the Hboot and it just hangs at the "please wait while your device is flashed" point.
Does anyone else out there have any more ideas or is this desire a write off? In my past experiance these things were damn hard to totally brick?
Any ideas welcome. Many thanks in advance.
How did he get to this in the first place? was he trying to flash a ROM? or a hboot?
techwiz98 said:
How did he get to this in the first place? was he trying to flash a ROM? or a hboot?
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Nope said he was just using the phone as per usual then the next time he pulled it out of his pocket it was on the Hboot screen?
He isnt android literate so he doesnt mess about with it, he brings it to me for that kind of stuff.
In bootloader, can u choose recovery and boot into it?
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Nope. Absolutly unresponsive volume rocker. Cant select anything from hboot menu. And even the power button is unresponsive, you have to battery pull to turn it off.
Another note to this saga: Ive tried an RUU but it dosent detect the phones plugged in.
Ive tried the freezer trick then RUU, that didnt work.
And now im even drying it out in rice just in case there is any moisture in the body.
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x5starguerillaa said:
Nope. Absolutly unresponsive volume rocker. Cant select anything from hboot menu. And even the power button is unresponsive, you have to battery pull to turn it off.
Another note to this saga: Ive tried an RUU but it dosent detect the phones plugged in.
Ive tried the freezer trick then RUU, that didnt work.
And now im even drying it out in rice just in case there is any moisture in the body.
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think you should first rule out the simplest problems: electrical contacts inside the switches.
I had problems with the volume rocker due to dust collecting so you might want to press harder or clean it. I've done this more than once. At least you be sure there is not a mechanical problem (eg. a switch not working or a latched switch preventing the phone from registering the other buttons.).
GL
So. Had it in bits. Cleaned the terminal points between all buttons and made sure no sticking was present.
One final last plea to anyone who has any better ideas on how to fix this.
Thanks to everyone thats made a contribution.
Will a jaff box/jtag box fix these problems? Got a man that can standing by......
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Hey Guys..
I have a Desire here in my Hands with a strange type of Brick.. (at least one I've never seen before) ..
It just does not react to anything at all. The battery is charged and I tested with another cell to be sure that is not the trivial cause.
No Bootloader, No HTC Logo, No reactions at all..
Did happen while flashing a Froyo 2.2 Rom + Radio + App2SD (from the xda forums) via ClockworkMod Recovery but I wasn't there to witness the actual Flash.
After flashing the device hung desperately in a screen with the robot in front of a box with an arrow .. looked like unpacking or so, but wasn't doing anything at all for at least half an hour.
Then battery removed -> Brick.
Anyone got any Idea?
messywrk said:
After flashing the device hung desperately in a screen with the robot in front of a box with an arrow .. looked like unpacking or so, but wasn't doing anything at all for at least half an hour.
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I suspect you removed the battery whilst it was flashing the radio. This is insta-brick territory and as far as I'm aware there is no cure other than sending it in to HTC.
Regards,
Dave
If you can access fastboot as opposed to bootloader you might be talking failing that back to HTC it goes
if your phone can not turn off whilst holding either volume down or the back button then yeah it's a brick, send it off to htc, just say it overheated and wont turn on again
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I suspect you removed the battery whilst it was flashing the radio. This is insta-brick territory and as far as I'm aware there is no cure other than sending it in to HTC.
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The battery was removed after flashing and rebooting.
Installed in the following order:
32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04.zip
LeeDrOiD_V1.2b.zip
942_desire_froyo_a2sd-signed.zip
every process seemed to work normal, no error happened.
Then rebooted the Desire and the "Box with Android-Bot" Screen appeared.. this hung for 30 min or more when I could not think of any other solution than removing the battery to reset..
After this -> nothing.
I suppose as you say it has to do something with the Radio ROM..
Been coming from OpenDesire 1.6b - every flash ran perfectly up to this point.
Damn, I think this one has to go back to HTC.
Is there any possibility to unbrick a phone thats not responding at all?
Could HTC be aware of the modifications or will they really just go with the "overheated and won't turn on again" explanation?
Thanks for your help so far guys!
Yea, the little Droid with the box thing is during a radio flash and you should never pull the battery during that as it does result in a brick.
Can you reach fastboot as mentioned up above?
..tried pressing the "back" button with the power button and the vol-down button together with the power button..
even did the "insert the battery while holding the button" method..
I don't think I can get the thing to Fastboot..
But I will look further into this and try..
..
Has anyone had a Radio Brick and sent this to HTC before?
Is the repair covered by warranty?
Do you guys think they even get this is no real HW failure?
messywrk said:
Has anyone had a Radio Brick and sent this to HTC before?
Is the repair covered by warranty?
Do you guys think they even get this is no real HW failure?
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I know someone who sent their phone back with a pretty much identical issue and the phone was fixed under warranty no problem.
Regards,
Dave
yay!
you know, even one post of you telling me it went allright for another guy is a big relief..
EDIT: just wanted to let you know I tried invoking fastboot via usb and the android PC tools..
just keeps waiting for the device.. and waiting ..
..will analyse USB traffic in general to conclude if there is a little itsy bit of life left in the phone, but I think this is a dead end too.
thank u all for ur help i have managed to unlock the phone as described
thanks alot every1
saifiraq: You seem to have stumbled in the wrong thread or could we help by coincidence?
..UPDATE:
Did usb-sniffer analysis while pulling battery, trying to turn on, plugging usb in etc.
NOTHING at all..
My baby is on it's way to HTC now.. wish me luck guys!
I was trying to downgrade and the phone seemed like it was stuck after hboot to PB31IMG so I pulled the battery now when I try to boot the phone, it vibrates but gets stuck on a black screen. Please help
hold vol down n power at sametime
see if u can get to recovery from hboot, if not I think u mightve screwed yourself
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I think the phone is booting up, the buttons at the bottom will light up and the charging light will come on but the screen stays blank.
If you can get into HBoot...try to do a RUU with these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817487
Also...how long did you wait before pulling the battery? And what exact step were you on when you did it?
I waited about five minutes and I cant do ruu because I cant see anything. The screen is black. Thats the step I was on. It said updating do not turn off. After it was done. I let it sit and it didn't do anything so I did a battery pull, I have the phone charging now and the charging light is on.
you probably should have waited at least 30 min...most of this stuff needs time usually if it seems like it's hanging its probably not. did you try getting to hboot yet?
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I didnt know to wait that long. Also, I tried but I cant get to anything, the phones charging light is on and when I hit the power button, the charging light goes away but the screen stays black. The lights at the button are on also, so it looks like the phone is on but the screen is black.
pull the battery again, then hold vol down and pwr til u get to hboot then let us kno wat happens
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Am I missing something? I thought I couldnt get into hboot because I cant see whats going on. The lights at the bottom are lit up and the charging light is on but the screen is black. If the screen is black, I wont know if Im in hboot right?
call Verizon and told them your phone had a black screen. they will send u a replacement phone.
ive never been able to not get into hboot with anything dumb I've done to my phone
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I just got this today from best buy. The bottom lights are coming on and so is the charging light, just not the screen. Is this something I definitely did or could I just have a lemon and the screen be bad.
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Also, could it be that I have a lemon and the screen just went bad or is this something I definitely did? The bottom lights are coming on and so is the charging light, just not the screen.
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just call verzion. also, dont tell them you are rooted or s-off.
I got it from best buy today, I noticed on the hboot screen it did say s off but this happened when I was trying to unroot. If I can fix it great, if not, i dont want to take it back and get charged for it.
it sounds like youre ignoring the help I'm giving you and youre just tring to turn it on everytime, phone needs to b completely off for hboot yo. yes you did something wrong to it. we just need to kno if u can get there to kno if u f'ed urself or not and fix it for you
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Here is the fix for the Desire: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498
In theory this fix should work the same for the Incredible, you just need to find the correct Rom.
The problem is that you tried to revert to the stock 2.1 for AMOLED screen phones, and you have a SLCD screen.
Now you basically have to find the SLCD version (not sure if there is one for 2.1?) and blindly get into HBOOT/Recovery and hopefully press the correct buttons to install the SLCD Rom for your phone.
I think this is the rom you want to try flashing (it's the stock 2.2 RUU): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IH461NS4
Good luck...
nevermind then, try lookin for clockworkmod on crack post in development heard it has the drivers for slcd, you have to rename it pb31img.zip on root of sdcard so you can see recovery
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I got it from best buy today, I noticed on the hboot screen it did say s off but this happened when I was trying to unroot. If I can fix it great, if not, i dont want to take it back and get charged for it.
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call verzion and told them your phone got a black screen no matter how you try to fix it. the replacement phone is free and overnight shipping is free.
pete_kowalski83 said:
it sounds like youre ignoring the help I'm giving you and youre just tring to turn it on everytime, phone needs to b completely off for hboot yo. yes you did something wrong to it. we just need to kno if u can get there to kno if u f'ed urself or not and fix it for you
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Im trying to listen to what your saying, idk if im doing something wrong. These are the steps im using.
1. I pull the battery.
2. put the battery back in while holding volume down with the power button.
3. it turns back on, i hit up a couple times on the volume
4. the phone turns on, the bottom lights and the charging lights are on.
I can hear the volume go up and down, when i hit menu, home, back, or search the phone vibrates. When I use the volume up and down buttons I can hear the volume going up and down so the phone is on.
I appreciate your help and want this fixed, i may be doing something wrong and sorry if I dont understand but Im not trying to deliberately ignore your advice.
pete_kowalski83 said:
it sounds like youre ignoring the help I'm giving you and youre just tring to turn it on everytime, phone needs to b completely off for hboot yo. yes you did something wrong to it. we just need to kno if u can get there to kno if u f'ed urself or not and fix it for you
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ozzman54 said:
Here is the fix for the Desire: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498
In theory this fix should work the same for the Incredible, you just need to find the correct Rom.
The problem is that you tried to revert to the stock 2.1 for AMOLED screen phones, and you have a SDLC screen.
This makes sense, I can try this and let you guys know what happens. Thanks
Now you basically have to find the SDLC version (not sure if there is one for 2.1?) and blindly get into HBOOT/Recovery and hopefully press the correct buttons to install the SDLC Rom for your phone.
Good luck...
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This makes sense, I will try it. Thanks
Hi, I think my phone just broke.
It's a HTC Desire Z.
Today I tried flshing a new radio image, but it didn't work , got the write failed message, from within phone os (virtuous froyo 1.0.2)
Got hboot 0.85.xxxx.
This was at work and since I had no compatible USB cable I thought I'd wait until I got home.
Well at home i selected boot to bootloader from holding the power button, the phone shutdown and that's it.
Now only lifesigns are the orange charge led.
When pulling the battery and inserting it, connectiong the usb cable the light comes on, pulling the cable it turns of.
When cable connected and pressing vol down + power, nothing happens, pulling the cable leaves the charge light still on.
Trying vol down + power without the cable does aboslutely nothing.
Do, does anyone have any clue what I can do ?
The phone worked flawlessly until the reboot point.
Iknow the first desire had some special key combination to get into some blue-led mode, haven't found anything on this so far.
it does not show up in devices in computer management either.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. I found the vol up + power it shows up as Qualomm CDMA Technologies MSM in device management.
hawkn said:
Hi, I think my phone just broke.
It's a HTC Desire Z.
Today I tried flshing a new radio image, but it didn't work , got the write failed message, from within phone os (virtuous froyo 1.0.2)
Got hboot 0.85.xxxx.
This was at work and since I had no compatible USB cable I thought I'd wait until I got home.
Well at home i selected boot to bootloader from holding the power button, the phone shutdown and that's it.
Now only lifesigns are the orange charge led.
When pulling the battery and inserting it, connectiong the usb cable the light comes on, pulling the cable it turns of.
When cable connected and pressing vol down + power, nothing happens, pulling the cable leaves the charge light still on.
Trying vol down + power without the cable does aboslutely nothing.
Do, does anyone have any clue what I can do ?
The phone worked flawlessly until the reboot point.
Iknow the first desire had some special key combination to get into some blue-led mode, haven't found anything on this so far.
it does not show up in devices in computer management either.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. I found the vol up + power it shows up as Qualomm CDMA Technologies MSM in device management.
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I had this same thing happen to me when I first got my G2, same problems, only charge light would come on, but it happened to me when I was dd the ENG.Hboot. everything worked fine untill reboot, then the same issues as you.
I had to buy a new phone...
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joemm said:
I had this same thing happen to me when I first got my G2, same problems, only charge light would come on, but it happened to me when I was dd the ENG.Hboot. everything worked fine untill reboot, then the same issues as you.
I had to buy a new phone...
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There must be a way to recover this type of brick, to dd a new hboot image.
Lets face it, the hboot image was flashed to a brand new HW at some point, the Q will therefor be, how do they do it, and how can we all do it?
Research continues.....
Ok, does anyone know how to fix a broken bootloader on the Desire Z ?
I figured out that the bootloader is broken, this because I mixed up radio and hboot image yesterday and tried to write the radio image to hboot partition, this is why I got a message telling me write error because of space issues.
Now I have my old Desire Bravo, wich is working better than all desire bravos here at work
But I want my Z back in bizniz.
joemm said:
I had this same thing happen to me when I first got my G2, same problems, only charge light would come on, but it happened to me when I was dd the ENG.Hboot. everything worked fine untill reboot, then the same issues as you.
I had to buy a new phone...
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Scary stuff. T-Mobile didnt replace it for you?
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have you got insurance??
u could drop it down the stairs at your workplace... claim on insurance... make sure its truely broke though...
just a stupid thought
if warrenty wont replace then insurance most probabally will... if its so broken you cant even turn it on to get the led. lol
either way mate i really hope you get it sorted soon best of luck!
You have brick your phone. bootloader is broken no fix for it. Sorry.
If you do not have warranty call htc Norway and say that you try to update your Software WITH HTC SYNC. They are very customer friendly there.
stian230 said:
You have brick your phone. bootloader is broken no fix for it. Sorry.
If you do not have warranty call htc Norway and say that you try to update your Software WITH HTC SYNC. They are very customer friendly there.
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I've been talking to mcare and deltaservice, they seems to be unable to help me since the bootloader is broken, I know this issue can be worked out with JTAG on the old desire, just have to wait for JTAG update on the Z, then I'll be up and running again, btw, I'm getting a new phone AND got to keep the old one
Ohhh, yeah.
BOYAAAAHHH!
I still wonder what the volume up + power key combo is good for.
When the phone is started in this mode, it shows, as mentioned earlier, as a Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM device in device manager on my puter, diagnostics mode ? possible way to get write access to internal memory, like say.... /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 so we can repair the bootloader without any advanced tear down of the phone and fancy equipment ?
If ANYONE have a clue on this feel free to share it with everyone else that has a Desire z/Vision. Thank you.
btw, took some high res pics here:
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/10646701/1/htc desire z?h=374e6d
A friend of mine, gave me today an HTC Wildfire S, who found laying in the street. Problem is that i can't boot it, even in bootloader (Vol Down + Power) if i try to boot into bootloader only a tiny red light appears on one sensor, and if i try to boot into android, it appears to boot but nothing appears on the screen.
Any Advice?
Is it detected when connected to a PC?
Aragornhr said:
A friend of mine, gave me today an HTC Wildfire S, who found laying in the street. Problem is that i can't boot it, even in bootloader (Vol Down + Power) if i try to boot into bootloader only a tiny red light appears on one sensor, and if i try to boot into android, it appears to boot but nothing appears on the screen.
Any Advice?
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I thought about a lot of things as your post didn't have a lot of info:
1- you aren't aware of battery level, leave it for an hour or two connected to the computer to recharge the battery.
2- do you have hTC Sync 3.0 ? You have to have it so the computer can recognize the phone.
3- putting it to the bootloader mode and nothing appearing on the screen makes me a bit worried.
Let us know how things will go !!!
koki-tytnII said:
I thought about a lot of things as your post didn't have a lot of info:
1- you aren't aware of battery level, leave it for an hour or two connected to the computer to recharge the battery.
2- do you have hTC Sync 3.0 ? You have to have it so the computer can recognize the phone.
3- putting it to the bootloader mode and nothing appearing on the screen makes me a bit worried.
Let us know how things will go !!!
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1 - Full Charged, at least charging light now is green (was orange before, like in other HTC's)
2 - Yes, i also have ADB drivers installed, but nothing appears with cmd "adb devices"
3 - I don't know if is rooted, or has USB debugging on.
Best thing to do is use xtc clip, create gold card etc and flash the Rom.
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I've found the problem. Looks like screen backlight is working fine, but no info is coming to it. I know because when i press touch buttons they vibrate, and vol buttons sounds when i press. So, do you know where can i get a cheap LCD screen replacement in EU?
Thx in advance
How about trying to find out who is its real owner and return it to him or her?
Can you feel confortable using something you know it is not yours?
Just an idea to make a better world.
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piratashitzu said:
How about trying to find out who is its real owner and return it to him or her?
Can you feel confortable using something you know it is not yours?
Just an idea to make a better world.
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tottaly agreed. just think when you lost yourself your HH..
It would be a nice idea, but my friend found it without SIM or microSD and can't get it work, so if you have any idea about how to find the owner, I'm listening.
Aragornhr said:
It would be a nice idea, but my friend found it without SIM or microSD and can't get it work, so if you have any idea about how to find the owner, I'm listening.
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After getting an LCD replacement and booting it up properly you could check the accounts & sync settings to see the Google account they used with the phone. That way you can maybe contact them. Contacts are also saved on phone memory, so you could have a look there.
If you did find the owner then you could charge him a little extra for finding and repairing it.
need the solution
I have the exact same problem with my HTC Wildfire S.
So what did you do with that phone?
Hello,
I have huge problem with my GF's HTC Desire, phone is 1 year old and today when she got back from University, she tried to turn the phone on its stuck on HBOOT screen (see pic).
I was trying to do everything but nothing works. I have restarted phone like 100+ times, by pulling battery out of device.
I have been searching this forum, googling and doing w/e I can think of to find solution to this problem.
The phone never been rooted, is S-ON.
All is on the pic.
While I'm on this screen nothing works - cant move by using volume buttons or do something by using power button. When I connect him to USB device shows that it is connected.
Thank you in advance for any help.
Soundoffear said:
Hello,
I have huge problem with my GF's HTC Desire, phone is 1 year old and today when she got back from University, she tried to turn the phone on its stuck on HBOOT screen (see pic).
I was trying to do everything but nothing works. I have restarted phone like 100+ times, by pulling battery out of device.
I have been searching this forum, googling and doing w/e I can think of to find solution to this problem.
The phone never been rooted, is S-ON.
All is on the pic.
While I'm on this screen nothing works - cant move by using volume buttons or do something by using power button. When I connect him to USB device shows that it is connected.
Thank you in advance for any help.
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Sounds like water damage.
Try booting into fastboot by pressing BACK and POWER. Then running a RUU for your network provider (shipper-roms.com). If you can't find one, make a goldcard (google tutorials), and download the latest WWE RUU. You can make the goldcard using ANY phone, it does not matter.
EDIT: boot into fastboot mode with way previously stated, plug into USB and run this http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_157560_signed.zip
If the phone isn't recognised, try installing HTC Sync, then re-trying the RUU.
Sorry for late answer,
I have checked what you wrote, and it didn't work.
Looks like only POWER button is working, nothing more.
When I press BACK and POWER it still shows same screen as I posted before.
About 'water problem' yes phone got a bite wet today, but it was a couple drops on the back.
In that screen select fastboot by pressing Power button. You can navigate with volume button.
Like I wrote in first post.
Nothing is working when I start phone I can't do anything, can't navigate, can't select anything.
I would send it back to htc or at least the store it came from!
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