Time to make the jump from S2. What would you do?
Nexus 4 easily.. if came downto the note and the galaxy s3 then I'd choose the note personally. Nicer screen, longer battery life, the 4420 soc here in the states, etc. But against the nexus 4 it's beat in hardware and software in every aspect. Easily. Not to mention price
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Nexus 4 :beer:
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4G will be missed, right?
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Doin the jump... Ayyy.. Sexy Sexy :sly::sly::sly::what:
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Doin the jump... Ayyy.. Sexy Sexy :sly::sly::sly::what:
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Yea buddy... think I might have to jump to that note 2 too.. that thang looks dope...
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Isn't the only reason the LG optimimus q up for discussion is the potential of Android updates? Cause other than that it smokes the new nexus spec wise
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Yea buddy... think I might have to jump to that note 2 too.. that thang looks dope...
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It does.. Getting mine in a few days
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I feel like upgrading from the S2 to any of those newer devices is about the equivalent of upgrading from the iPhone 4S to the iPhone 5. You aren't going to feel a giant difference. You're rarely, if ever, going to take advantage of the performance those newer devices are capable of (for now and any time in the near future).
I feel like its kind of a waste to upgrade to anything outside of your 2 year contract unless you're A) loaded and don't give a ****, B) there is something seriously wrong with your phone, or C) whatever you're doing is so ridiculously processor intensive you need something more powerful.
It isn't like we're on outdated software. We're going to get official jellybean soon, and have ample developer support behind AOSP builds of 4.1.2 (and soon 4.2) which run almost flawlessly. It isn't like our dual core exynos ever bogs down in anything availible on the market, or for daily use, and if it did- you can always overclock. Our touchscreens are great, the super AMOLED/gorilla glass display is phenomenal, battery life (if used correctly) is acceptable, the device is plenty big unless you have gorilla hands, the cameras are fine, etc. Unless you're already at your 2 year (which you shouldn't be, because the phone came out late 2011), I don't see any big calling to upgrade. This upgrade fever is ridiculous and pointless.
I might eventually get a note 2 but not for a while. This phone is perfectly fine for me. My upgrade kicks in December so I'm gonna get my gf an s3 for an early present since her evo3d is having issues
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I feel like upgrading from the S2 to any of those newer devices is about the equivalent of upgrading from the iPhone 4S to the iPhone 5. You aren't going to feel a giant difference. You're rarely, if ever, going to take advantage of the performance those newer devices are capable of (for now and any time in the near future).
I feel like its kind of a waste to upgrade to anything outside of your 2 year contract unless you're A) loaded and don't give a ****, B) there is something seriously wrong with your phone, or C) whatever you're doing is so ridiculously processor intensive you need something more powerful.
It isn't like we're on outdated software. We're going to get official jellybean soon, and have ample developer support behind AOSP builds of 4.1.2 (and soon 4.2) which run almost flawlessly. It isn't like our dual core exynos ever bogs down in anything availible on the market, or for daily use, and if it did- you can always overclock. Our touchscreens are great, the super AMOLED/gorilla glass display is phenomenal, battery life (if used correctly) is acceptable, the device is plenty big unless you have gorilla hands, the cameras are fine, etc. Unless you're already at your 2 year (which you shouldn't be, because the phone came out late 2011), I don't see any big calling to upgrade. This upgrade fever is ridiculous and pointless.
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Everything you said is True.... My phone still rocks :laugh:
Galaxy S3. The Note is just too big for me. No external sd or replaceable battery is a deal breaker for me on the nexus 4. Plus I like touchwiz. So that leaves the S3, which I absolutely love. Since my upgrade isn't up until next year and because I am very happy with my S2, I won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
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I feel like upgrading from the S2 to any of those newer devices is about the equivalent of upgrading from the iPhone 4S to the iPhone 5. You aren't going to feel a giant difference. You're rarely, if ever, going to take advantage of the performance those newer devices are capable of (for now and any time in the near future).
I feel like its kind of a waste to upgrade to anything outside of your 2 year contract unless you're A) loaded and don't give a ****, B) there is something seriously wrong with your phone, or C) whatever you're doing is so ridiculously processor intensive you need something more powerful.
It isn't like we're on outdated software. We're going to get official jellybean soon, and have ample developer support behind AOSP builds of 4.1.2 (and soon 4.2) which run almost flawlessly. It isn't like our dual core exynos ever bogs down in anything availible on the market, or for daily use, and if it did- you can always overclock. Our touchscreens are great, the super AMOLED/gorilla glass display is phenomenal, battery life (if used correctly) is acceptable, the device is plenty big unless you have gorilla hands, the cameras are fine, etc. Unless you're already at your 2 year (which you shouldn't be, because the phone came out late 2011), I don't see any big calling to upgrade. This upgrade fever is ridiculous and pointless.
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I totally agree with this but some people like new stuff or have money for it so my vote is for the S3. Of those options I feel the note2 is the biggest upgrade only due to the screen size. I personally think that screen size of the note is too big though. My must haves include a sd slot and removable battery is also very nice the Gnex is out and that leaves the S3. I might also consider the HTC.
Would the Nexus 4 work on the Sprint network?
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It does.. Getting mine in a few days
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I'm jealous... I'll see you there in a lil bit tho lol
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Would the Nexus 4 work on the Sprint network?
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No. N4 will only be released in a tmobile and an unlocked version. Google doesn't want to mess around with LTE closed source drivers. Causes too many issues and delays. According to what I've read.
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No. N4 will only be released in a tmobile and an unlocked version. Google doesn't want to mess around with LTE closed source drivers. Causes too many issues and delays. According to what I've read.
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In short, Google is telling Verizon to eff off.
I said my next phone will be a nexus. LG made a pretty sharp looking phone and it packs some pretty nice specs. I'm more concerned about stock Android so rooting will not be needed with the LG Nexus 4 (for me anyway).
My upgrade been available since June and I just want a new phone lol my lil sister will take my e4gt as for me I'm jumping to a manly phone the note 2. No removable battery, SD card slot and no lte is a deal breaker for me plus with jellybean smoothness I can be patient for android updates.
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My wife was upgrade eligible and picked up a Note 2 this past Saturday. I'm pretty impressed with it. I've tried it out in my pocket several times and despite the increase in size it still seems surprisingly pocketable to me.
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It's funny to me, when I first took my Galaxy Nexus out of the box when I first bought it, I thought that was a large phone (though I didn't think it was too large). Well once I took the Galaxy Note out the box, I no longer consider my GNex to be large. The screen of the Note is almost the size of the whole GNex. Depending on how you look at it, that's a good thing or a bad thing. All in all, after playing with both of them side by side for a while, I've come to the conclusion that the GNex is better due to it being faster in essential things like browsing and GPS. I just wish the GNex got as loud as the Note does.
Here's a link to my brief comparison:
http://thesmartphonechamp.com/smartphone-heavyweight-bout-galaxy-nexus-vs-att-galaxy-note/
I also have both and like both! I love the Gnex because of ics , 0 crapware installed pure google experience.
But i love the note because of the big screen, long battery life, and lte. The screen of the gnex looks a little better because it's smaller. The gnex might be better for you and the note might be good for someone else... It's all about taste!
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I also have both and like both! I love the Gnex because of ics , 0 crapware installed pure google experience.
But i love the note because of the big screen, long battery life, and lte. The screen of the gnex looks a little better because it's smaller. The gnex might be better for you and the note might be good for someone else... It's all about taste!
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You're right, it's definitely all about taste. I think the Galaxy Note is an awesome device. That screen is tremendous, but for me it is a little bit too big. I value one-handed operation, and I don't really think the Note is very well suited for one-handed operation. For a person that doesn't mind two-handed operation I think it's a fantastic device. For example, my uncle is geeked about that phone and intends to buy it. I took it over his house yesterday so he could see it and now he's in love with it lol. He likes two-handed operation, so yep it's like you said, it's a matter of preference. Just wish they had toned it down with all the bloatware (the phone has a massive amount of bloat). Also, the Gnex shines with ICS and the optimizations really show up in the browser, as it blows the Note away in browsing speed. It really isn't close. I'm curious to see how much improvement the Note's browser speed will see once it gets ICS. I just hate how they will "uglify" ICS with Touchwiz on the Note.
The international note is faster than the Gnex due to the Mali 400 GPU but on the AT&T version it has an adreno GPU which is probably the worst GPU series of all major ARM processor families
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Faster is relative to what function you are speaking.
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The international note is faster than the Gnex due to the Mali 400 GPU but on the AT&T version it has an adreno GPU which is probably the worst GPU series of all major ARM processor families
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I think too much is made about GPU's. None of the GPU's are incapable and run software and games just fine. They only matter in benchmarks...which really don't mean anything at all besides message board bragging rights. I think if there is fault to be found in the AT&T Galaxy Note's hardware it would be the processor. They went with the S3 Snapdragon which definitely isn't in the upper tier of dual core processors. The S3 has less than half the memory bandwidth of the OMAP 4460, A5, and Exynos 4210. Then don't forget it isn't even an A9 chip either. BTW the OMAP4 thus far (the S3 has already been counted out) is the only current gen chip that will be compatible with the upcoming wifi display feature that will be added in an update later this year. Heck the Tegra 3 isn't even compatible.
I'm curious how the battery life compares between a Nexus with the 2100mah battery and a Note with the 2500mah battery.
I wouldn't even look at a SGS3 if the Note had stock ICS and NFC. Otherwise it's worthless with TW barfed on it. The Note is a fantastic mobile otherwise. I do miss the notification light though.
(I'm talking about the international version. That 4 button abomination just released doesn't count.)
(I know I can flash it to whatever I want. I want stock ICS OOTB.)
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I wouldn't even look at a SGS3 if the Note had stock ICS and NFC. Otherwise it's worthless with TW barfed on it. The Note is a fantastic mobile otherwise. I do miss the notification light though.
(I'm talking about the international version. That 4 button abomination just released doesn't count.)
(I know I can flash it to whatever I want. I want stock ICS OOTB.)
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I agree with you that Touchwiz is definitely not the greatest. I've seen the leaked ICS Rom and you can barely tell the difference between it and Gingerbread visually. As for the US version of the Note, I think it looks much better than the international version with its giant ugly PHYSICAL home button. Besides, that one home button is a little too iphone-ish for me.
I have yet to play with note but I have a feeling I will trade this guy for a white note.
It looks super nice and eventually they should have cm9 and that's close enough to aosp for me.
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"Eventually."
Let us not forget it is LTE. That ALWAYS makes for a fun time with new devices to aosp.
"Eventually" may be by the time of EOL of the LTE Note
True true... I wonder how many people left this device for it and are happy
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Well I just played with the Note at an ATT store last night, it was beautiful.
The case didn't feel as premium as nexus, but ahmigawd the screen!
I originally wanted a Note but it didn't support T-mo properly so didn't import it. No way in hell I'd get it for ATT or VZ (both can diaf).
However I don't feel you can really compare the Nexus to a Note, it's in its own category, the size will basically polarize people. The interesting thing about the Note is that, pretty much the only complaint about it is that it's "too big", reviewers list that as a con - which imo is just dumb, considering it was intended to be a big phone.
I'm going to hold out for the Note II
Is the note 2 for sure happening?
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Is the note 2 for sure happening?
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We should know in a couple days, I would assume.
Had the Note (international) now have the GNEX. Don't fall for the Note. It's neat, but it's still a Touchwiz-y typical device. AOSP forever. I'm done with non Nexus devices. It's just not worth the agony of always feeling left behind on the software/functionality front.
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I wouldn't even look at a SGS3 if the Note had stock ICS and NFC. Otherwise it's worthless with TW barfed on it. The Note is a fantastic mobile otherwise. I do miss the notification light though.
(I'm talking about the international version. That 4 button abomination just released doesn't count.)
(I know I can flash it to whatever I want. I want stock ICS OOTB.)
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Wow at&t really went hard on disabling features. First i ear that you can't disable lte, and now you're saying nfc is also disabled?
I have a bell version unlocked here in Canada and non of these feature are disabled.
They are terrible!!
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Is the note 2 for sure happening?
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of course there's nothing absolute.
But Note was a success, except that the release is akin to the disaster that was GSII.
There's no reason samsung won't make another Note.
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I have yet to play with note but I have a feeling I will trade this guy for a white note.
It looks super nice and eventually they should have cm9 and that's close enough to aosp for me.
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You'll like the note. I loved mine. The 5.3 inch is huge at first, but warms up to you real quick. I just traded my international note for a gnex. But it wasn't because I was dissatisfied with the device, I just needed a phone that I can wear in a holster for work. Besides, no matter how much I like a device, I can't hang on to just one, I have to try em all . I haven't received my gnex yet, but lord knows how long I'm gonna be able to hang onto it once I get it.
I just played with the att note, brand new just arrived today. Its bigger than i thought! One thing i noticed is that thing is laggggy compared to my nexus. I did side by side comparisons in many major apps and the nexus spanked it in every instance. Lists just had low frame rates and stuttered a bit. But the nexus was silky smooth for example both scrolling the same search in the market, or youtube or a webpage. Must be due to lack of exynos? Thank goodness i love my nexus.
The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Yeah, ok.
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Why? This is about the Galaxy S III and its brand. There's nothing wrong with discussing how it handles against other phones on the market.
The iphone 5 benchmarks were false (unless you were talking about other benchmarks).
From Adam outler on Google Plus:
CNET posted a bogus report on benchmarks. I had problems believing that a dual core from apple would be faster than every Android device so I decided to go to the source. Turns out the Galaxy S3 and the Nexus7 both score higher benchmarks than the iPhone 5.
You can see here for yourself. IPhone scores 1590, Galaxy S3 scores 1766. These are the benchmarks mentioned in the article below.
Android benchmarks: URL blocked, from primatelabs
iPhone benchmarks: URL blocked, from primatelabs
CNET's blatantly misreported benchmark review : URL blocked from CNET "iphone-5-benchmarks-surface-performance-doubles"
Went to AT&T today looking at the 5 with my wife I must say but I hate admitting it the speed is insane on lte did a speed teat in store and it got 51 up 20 down ran it with my s3 got 45 up 18 down.
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Went to AT&T today looking at the 5 with my wife I must say but I hate admitting it the speed is insane on lte did a speed teat in store and it got 51 up 20 down ran it with my s3 got 45 up 18 down.
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It would need alot more than that to get me to deal with all it's other shortcomings.
Who gives a rats ass about the fastest phone? People who are power hungry on specs slightly bug me. The S4 processor with the current GPU play everything flawlessly. Who cares that the ifail 5 has a better processor. Its a common fact that as soon as a new product is released, its outclassed by the time you change underwear at night. Pretty soon were all going to holding quad core/12 MP/1080p display beasts and then god will descend from the heavens and scoop us all us.... or a nuclear strike will occur and we will all be turned into dust.
Let apple have their glory because Samsung did when this phone was announced.
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The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Outclassed how? A Jellybean S3 benches faster than the iPhone 5 by a healthy margin and still has a bigger screen and more RAM.
I was just posting stats that I found there is nothing that apple could ever do that would make me abandon the samsung line of android devices. I have the note tablet as well and that blows the iPad away in my opinion.
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Ok... Yeah the crap phone 5 is five months newer than my GS 3... It had better be faster, otherwise they have bigger problems in that company than i thought. Hell with a additional 5 or 6 months, it ought to be faster than it is. Guess what, when the SGS 4 comes out in another 6-8 months, it will be faster than the icrap 5... and so forth and so on... Thus is life.
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Ultimately stock vs stock may be faster (marginally), but we can still over clock and optimize like crazy where they can't, and this will produce significant differences in performance. It all lays with the combination of hardware and software and the ability to manipulate it... this is where android will always win, because they give us the freedom to do these things.
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The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Those benchmarks that were posted by CNET were false. GG
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The only equipment in the i phone that is better is the processor. Everything else is outdated.
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The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Although I hate to point it out.... Your going by false data.
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The only thing the iphone5 has that I want is the almost unbreakable screen. They did some magic on that.
Other then that the iphone would be useless for me as it doesn't do anything I need and everything it does do is sub par
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The only thing the iphone5 has that I want is the almost unbreakable screen. They did some magic on that.
Other then that the iphone would be useless for me as it doesn't do anything I need and everything it does do is sub par
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Pretty sure the only reason the screen is "almost unbreakable" is because of the solid aluminum back and sides. Unlike the iPhone 4/4S, the screen doesn't really seem to cushion any of the blow like it did on previous devices, instead being taken more by the aluminum. As we all know, Gorilla Glass (or whatever they may be using in the iP5) can handle damn near anything on the face, but an impact to the edge is where the shattering happens.
I still wouldn't want one simply because of the screen, because i simply just don't drop my phone. Never have, and doubt i will anytime soon.
Umm, OP, you do realize that the OS are different and demand different things from its hardware right? No offense but it would be stupid to compare two completely different OS that utalize different hardware. IOS is fast in the iPhone 5 because it was made to be fast on iPhone 5. Not because the hardware is fast. Its called optimization. Which iOS is for THAT hardware.
Just my two cents.
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same boring os and look as the last 5 yrs
no nfc(even though i dont care about it im sure some do)
no wireless charging
weird looking skinny screen
headphone jack on the bottom(wtf were they thinking)
constantly being scared to upgrade os cuz of waiting on jailbreak
battery life sucks
yea id say once again apple made a phone that is already behind everything else
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Umm, OP, you do realize that the OS are different and demand different things from its hardware right? No offense but it would be stupid to compare two completely different OS that utalize different hardware. IOS is fast in the iPhone 5 because it was made to be fast on iPhone 5. Not because the hardware is fast. Its called optimization. Which iOS is for THAT hardware.
Just my two cents.
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the iphone only seems fast cuz the hardware never does any work. the apps do all the work themselves. its just the way everything is coded. considering all that i still dont understand why the battery life always sucks.
I went to the apple store today as the nerd me and i family are and i waged a double double from in n out on my s3 being faster opening apps and on laodong web pages... and infront of 4 customers and 3 employees my phone won every single test on the apple store wifi network... i can say in real world uses im happy with my purchase. And my double double was delish.
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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I went to the apple store today as the nerd me and i family are and i waged a double double from in n out on my s3 being faster opening apps and on laodong web pages... and infront of 4 customers and 3 employees my phone won every single test on the apple store wifi network... i can say in real world uses im happy with my purchase. And my double double was delish.
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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what did the customers and apple geniuses have to say?
I didn't want to update to the S3 b/c they made it a dual core phone in America. So I'm waiting for a quad core or better upgrade to the GalaxyS2.
get the note 2! it's quad core.
Note 2 will be next phone
Prolly the s4 but ill play the note 2 to see if I like it.
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I agree with you, the S3 is a nice phone but not a huge upgrade from this phone unless you are in one of those few areas with lte already. Note2 is too big for me. I think the Nokia Windows 8 phones are nice, wonder if they will go Android in the future as well. Heck Windows 8 may end up being awesome. Android can be frustrating at times.
I think I'll be speaking for a lot of people in a wimax market / non wimax market without network vision coming in till next year...
Not upgrading until LTE + NV upgrades improve data speeds.
SO probably not till the S4 or any other highly competitive / powerful phone next summer when network vision is going to hit or will hit the majority of the sprint network along with 800mhz + clearwire TD LTE 2.5-2.6ghz starting to become active.
I'll skip the S3 since I really don't see much of a Diff from my S2 to warrant an upgrade at this time. Bring on the S4!!! LOL
I'll probably wait til the s4. The feature I'm waiting for the most is the camera. I want faster focus and burst shot, and last but certainly not least, a lens that is MUCH better in low light. It has to be equal or better than the iphone 5's.
I agree, buying a LTE phone that doesn't support 800mhz LTE band is pretty dumb.
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Ill be either going with the note 2 or the LG optimus g(next nexus) the optimus on sprint is 4.7" true HD IPS screen with 1280x768 resolution snapdragon s4 pro 1.5ghz quad core, 2gb ram, 13mp rear cam, 1.3mp ffc, 2100mah battery. Specs are close to the note 2 minus the smaller screen and the note 2 has a 3100mah battery, otherwise the specs are pretty close. Google's new nexus affiliate program looks like we may have a plethora of nexus phones to choose from, they just have to meet minimum hardware requirements and have any 3rd party UIs or apps as a separate install thru a theme manager, so it ships with aosp and then u can choose to add sense, TWiz, blur etc.
We are legion, for we are many.
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I'm gonna get the next nexus, just easier to get solid updates like klp and whatever dessert starts with the letter L.
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Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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I'm gonna get the next nexus, just easier to get solid updates like klp and whatever dessert starts with the letter L.
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The nexus is apparently shipping on android 4.2, however it is still unknown if 4.2 is a JellyBean update or if it will be Key Lime Pie, as quickly after JB was released to the nexus release I'm guessing 4.2 is going to just be an update to JB to add the stylus function and a few other new functions to aosp that were previously manufacturer specific(included in 3rd party UIs) to allow for the nexus affiliate program to move forward and the UIs just needing the launcher/Widgets/apps installed instead of an entire rom needing to be flashed through the system manager
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Next Nexus not the LG Optimus Nexus G (hope new Nexus program is forbreal) or whatever Flagship is available by February 2013 :beer:
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Next Nexus not the LG Optimus Nexus G (hope new Nexus program is forbreal) or whatever Flagship is available by February 2013 :beer:
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There are rumors that around 25 nexus branded devices from the new program will be available between now and q1 of 2013, some phones, some tablets and some media devices. I'm hoping they make a nexus version of the note 2 since it meets the spec requirements it would only need an aosp version to qualify for the nexus branding
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I'm waiting until I see something that impresses me... so far I'm not impressed.
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I'm waiting until I see something that impresses me... so far I'm not impressed.
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this, exactly.
i get a new device every year (at a minimum), as a rule. i was an htc fan for some time, but (coming from the EVO) the evo3d just did not impress at all, so jumped to sammy this year, with a bit of hesitation. no real regrets so far...
but so far this year, the GS3 seems a nice bump, but not a true step forward.
the HTC X series seems nice (for HW reasons), as a possibility, or possibly the Note 2.
but nothing i've seen in the last few months really grabs my balls and demands attention.
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Note 2 will be next phone
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Same here!
kingdazy said:
this, exactly.
i get a new device every year (at a minimum), as a rule. i was an htc fan for some time, but (coming from the EVO) the evo3d just did not impress at all, so jumped to sammy this year, with a bit of hesitation. no real regrets so far...
but so far this year, the GS3 seems a nice bump, but not a true step forward.
the HTC X series seems nice (for HW reasons), as a possibility, or possibly the Note 2.
but nothing i've seen in the last few months really grabs my balls and demands attention.
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You sound like me. I dropped that Evo3d ASAP and got a GS2 though. Prior to that I had an Evo 4g Touch pro 2, Touch Pro, Mogul, Apache me and HTC went way back, but the Sprint S2 killed that love in a blink of an eye. Straight Talk and my S3 killed my love for Sprint....Pending LTE deployment in my neck of the woods. I am in love with this S3. At first I had bad experiences with the battery life, but after I installed the XDA battery life fix I get battery well over 10 hours and in emergency situations I have seen it get over a day worth of battery life with the screen using 3 hours of that time.
Im definitely waiting on the S4. I just hope that the battery life will match my current device the s3. Hoping there is a15 quad core upgraded GFX and the jaw dropping 3gb of ram. Only thing I am worried about is flash compatibility. That was one of my main reasons
I'm waiting on something noticeably better when it comes to specs and build quality. My contract was up 2 months ago, but theirs nothing out there worthy of upgrading to. The Optimus G looks good spec wise, but the build quality is questionable. I'm hoping HTC gets their act together and continues improving their uni body designs.
I don't understand why people will sell there galaxy S III for the nexus 4. Galaxy S III comes with a with micro sd slot, bigger display, better front facing camera, and LTE.
I understand that the LG nexus is a nexus phone and always get update faster, wireless charging, and quad core. But I don't think it still outweighs the SIII. I think the SIII is still superior.
For those people that don't have either phone yes it be more difficult to choose mainly because the Nexus 4 Price is amazing for what it offers. but for those people with SIII how is this even debatable.
Is there something im missing?
much better processor. hspa+ 42meg compatible. no bloatware. possibly a better screen. wireless charging. I think you pretty much answered your own question. lol. not having lte isnt a huge deal breaker for me since I am near wifi almost always. Tradeoff is the 4 will probably have outstanding battery life. 16 gig is enough storage for me.
The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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iceman4357 said:
much better processor. hspa+ 42meg compatible. no bloatware. possibly a better screen. wireless charging. I think you pretty much answered your own question. lol. not having lte isnt a huge deal breaker for me since I am near wifi almost always. Tradeoff is the 4 will probably have outstanding battery life. 16 gig is enough storage for me.
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CPU is a quad core which is nice I agree but most the stuff on android don't utilize it, so its pretty pointless until later. No bloatware, we can already use custom roms or titanium to get rid of it. Not sure what to say about the screen I never seen it personally not going to judge it either. Wireless charging is cool I guess, but I doubt it charges faster then a direct connection. We can toggle off LTE and get pretty amazing battery life with the SIII both devices are both the same size battery. I agree16 gb is enough for me, but I like the fact that the SIII allows us to add more storage if we ever choose to. Maybe its because its new and its over hyped, i must admit at first I was like I want it. But I really thought about it and I realize its not worth it.
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The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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Thats how I feel.
LTE is great. Those that say its "not ready for prime time yet" must not have it in their area or haven't tried it yet. I'd love to get the N4 but 21mbps HSPA on ATT in San Diego nets me all of 1mbps down and that's a no go. If its 42 mbps then maybe.
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The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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+1 no Lte no way,16gb no where near enough space for me, shoot my 32gb sd card is almost full, no bloat not even an issue can be easily removed with titanium backup, my s3 dual core/2gb ram loads everything just fine, in my opinion I have yet to see another android manufactures phone screen that looks better than the s3, I have a nexus 7 and screen looks washed out compared to my s3, only other phone worth considering selling s3 for right now is the note 2 if you can deal with the size.
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The nexus 4 is nice and all, but it doesn't really do anything the s3 can't . And with the dev support we have here, we really don't need to wait for updates.
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If I wasn't getting the note 2 tomorrow, I'd be on the nexus 4, such a good price
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The fact that it is an lg phone should be plenty enough to keep me and it gets away. No thx
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3 main reasons I wont switch to a Nexus 4
1- I need 32g minimum
2- Its made by LG
3- Glass on the the back ? WTF ! I hate scratches.
Well it's a quad core.
Nexus line means direct support. First to get updates. Maybe I don't have to flash roms to get better battery life. Stock Android look.
Beautiful design. Cheap price. Don't use lte that much.
Better screen than s3
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Well it's a quad core.
Nexus line means direct support. First to get updates. Maybe I don't have to flash roms to get better battery life. Stock Android look.
Beautiful design. Cheap price. Don't use lte that much.
Better screen than s3
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Lol. First to get updates always makes me laugh. Hours after source is released which is when the nexus line gets their updates I have ROMs released for whatever device I own. So I guess in a way I'm first to get updates too.
1.) Its made by LG. That says enough I would think. I can most here all the complaints a month or two after releases about this not working, this is broken, etc..
2.) Better screen? Not sure how you can state this unless youve personally held the phone in your hand. Spec sheets arent always as they seem . Just remember which company is known for producing the best screens out there.
3.) It really all boils down to personal preference either way. But I'm sure we've all learned that newer isn't always better.
The only reason I'm considering it is because of the price. I would love the freedom of being eligible for an upgrade because att will bend over backwards to keep you. Before I upgraded to the gs3 I was considering moving to Verizon and att pretty much gave me $50 off my bill for the next 6 months and sold me the gs3 for $99.
But without a micro SD card I don't see no need to switch
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The fact that it is an lg phone should be plenty enough to keep me and it gets away. No thx
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This...
I'm sure it is a great device, I don't think Google would sully the nexus name with a bad piece of hardware, but the reputation that lg has is not the best in the game.
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I'd have to agree with the few that have noted LG - enough said. They have never been the brand I look to for phone tech - Samsung, HTC and Motorola are the only ones to consider.. The few LGs I've used/played with have been less than impressive.
Addition: Google has stated that they are releasing multiple Nexus devices, so if I were to give up my S3, I'd wait for the next Motorola or Samsung device.
I find it silly that people would sell their GS3 for this Nexus 4. No extra storage, no removable battery, no lte, no thanks.
It's great for anyone that doesn't live under LTE coverage and can't get out of their contract/don't want to upgrade and sign another contract.
I also find it funny that these same people who are praising the Nexus 4 are the same ones that knock the iphone (remember when the 4s came out?) Heavy on the fact that it doesn't have a removable battery, no expandable storage and no LTE. All of a sudden it's cool now? Get out of here...
Lg has crappy software support but with this being a nexus that's no longer an issue. Samsung is taking forever just to release 4.1.1 do y'all realistically see Samsung pushing out 4.2 this year? Even then we would wait for att also. There's not doubt that the phone will get this update eventually with cyanogen.
+1 on no chance of getting it because it doesn't have micro sd or removable battery. I could probably handle the battery, but not the lack of micro sd.
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I would be willing to go out on a limb and give LG a try for a Nexus device but...no removable SD is a complete deal breaker for me. Cloud storage is not a good substitute for local storage yet. And 8GB or 16GB just isn't cutting it anymore. I hope the SGS4 has a 32 & 64 GB version with removable storage. I love my 50GB dropbox (thank you Samsung) but it just isn't the same as direct attached storage.
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2.) Better screen? Not sure how you can state this unless youve personally held the phone in your hand. Spec sheets arent always as they seem . Just remember which company is known for producing the best screens out there.
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Technologically, it is pretty much undeniable that the screen is better. It can't produce as much vibrancy, but it is so much better on color preciseness. I don't notice it that much on my S3, but when I stick it next to a relative's One X it's pretty obvious that the whites aren't white and some other colors are slightly off as well. In day to day use, I don't care. But, seriously... dat screen...
Have the GS3. I love it. Best phone I've ever had. I'm getting the itch though. I was seriously considering N4. Reviews dont seem to be as positive as I hoped, particularly from those coming from GS3. Which made me look at the Note 2. I love that phone. But is it too big? I don't think it is but I also have the N7, so do I even need the bigger screen? I rarely use my GS3 for anything other than phone calls and texts. Am I wasting my money? I'm thinking I am...but not sure. Anyone else considering either of these phones?
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IMO it's either the s3 or note2. The nexus only has 16 gb of storage with no chance of increasing, has a fragile back that will crack if dropped, and is made by lg which hasn't made many great phones. The camera is only average and also has a halo haze and its not that much faster in real world tests. As for the note, only you can decide if its too big, other than that its actually a little better than the s3.
I've pretty much ruled out the N4 at this point. I'm going to check out the Note 2 tomorrow. If I get the note would that replace my N7? Enough to give me an excuse for getting N10??
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IMO it's either the s3 or note2. The nexus only has 16 gb of storage with no chance of increasing, has a fragile back that will crack if dropped, and is made by lg which hasn't made many great phones. The camera is only average and also has a halo haze and its not that much faster in real world tests. As for the note, only you can decide if its too big, other than that its actually a little better than the s3.
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I don't wanna start a flame war and I'm not trying to diss you but I'm just curious as to were you've been getting your info from. From all the people that have gotten the phone I haven't heard them say anything of what you just posted.
From all the reviews I have read, they say it's very smooth, the camera is very good, but not as good as the S3. The back is fragile but not as fragile as people seem to believe. The hardware is very good even though its by LG (it's pretty much an Optimus G) which is a very good phone by the way.
Oh yeah and the screen on that is much better than the S3. I believe the NOTE 2 has the same screen type as the S3 (correct me if I'm wrong)
The only thing that I really see as a downside is the damn storage. I just can't believe Google thinks that 16gb is enough now days. Even though there is the cloud, carriers restrict you on data.
Overall if you just use your phone for text and call I would go with the N4, since storage isn't a priority for you. I'm sure everyone prefers the pure Google experience with timely updates. Plus it's cheap without a contract.
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You bring up some valid points...especially that I'm only using my phone for calls and texts...N4 would be perfect for that. Pure Google...would love that. I guess I was hoping I'd use my phone for a little more. Hence Note 2. As far as the screen, I hear the AMOLED is too saturated with "fake" color. I love that screen to be honest. Fake colors or not, i think they are beautiful. I've yet to see N4 in person...or Note 2. Tomorrow I'm going to the T-Mobile store..hopefully they have both. Note 2 and GS3 both have AMOLED screens.
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I'm actually getting ready to switch to a Note 2 on Verizon as soon as it comes out. I love my S3, but I really want that huge screen, and extra battery life.
I've been with T Mobile for over 10 years, and their customer service is great, but I really want more reliable and consistent coverage. I'm actually rolling the dice on not being able to flash custom ROMs(or just having limited development) in exchange for a better network and LTE.
There's no way I would go with an N4, and that's only because of the 16 gigs of storage. I have a 16 gig S3 and had a 16 gig external SD card, and I still ended up having to upgrade to a 64 gig card. But if your not big into music, movies or games, then you probably don't have to worry about that.
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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I heard VZW has locked bootloader and possibly hasn't been unlocked yet, could be wrong though
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N4 is a great device in my opinion. I love the vanilla Android and assurance of updates.
However, a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage is a big grippe to me. I like having the option to increase my storage capacities.
If you're worried about the size of the Note II, simply pick one up at the T-Mobile store or anywhere they would carry one. It's definitely a large device, it felt kind of awkward to me, but then again so did the GS3 when I first got it.
The N4 has the best price to performance ratio of any phone out there today, I believe.
That's a huge sweet spot to me.
I think that you'd be happy either way. All of these phones are great and should last you a while.
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Why would custom ROMS be limited? Is it Verizon or the Note 2 in general?
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Locked bootloader and even if it gets unlocked, my understanding is that there is less development on Verizon LTE phones. Might just have to do some research on porting my own ROM's, but I really think I could get used to running TW and just using a different launcher. Once we get root, we can at least do a few mods and use root apps.
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I like the note 2, its a very nice phone very fast, my coworker bought it and he loves it, I wish the s3 had the quad core processor like the euro did, that would make it even better. I kinda feel as if I got a gs2 with a bigger screen. If all you are going to do is calls and text then the note 2 is overdoing it. I would stick with the s3. I love the phone and can't wait to see what's next from samsung.
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I presume you have the money to upgrade. But let be honest, the N4 and Note 2 is not that different in term of overall quality compare to S3. I think you should wait till summer or so since by then something beastly and different will come out.
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I like the note 2, its a very nice phone very fast, my coworker bought it and he loves it, I wish the s3 had the quad core processor like the euro did, that would make it even better. I kinda feel as if I got a gs2 with a bigger screen. If all you are going to do is calls and text then the note 2 is overdoing it. I would stick with the s3. I love the phone and can't wait to see what's next from samsung.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but very few apps take advantage of dual core processing at the moment (let alone quad core) and the 2 cores on the US version are pretty fast (faster IIRC 1 for 1).
Hell tons of applications still come out for Windows that aren't multithreaded and multicore/multiprocessor systems have been around for many years now.
hardware wise
note 2>s3>n4
reality wise
s3>note 2>n4