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Hey everyone, I recently got a new Android phone, Samsung galaxy s2x, it should have dual 4g capabilities. The speed isn't great compared to what others have been getting. I usually get around 3-4mbps, the Telus website says 7-14 should be attained...
My question is basically, in the wireless options, I can choose gsm, wcdma or both. Is wdcma considered hspa+ ?
I live in Montreal, where the Telus network should be fully developed. Highest speed I've got was 6mbps.
Anything wrong, or were my expectations too high when buying this phone?
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Also, my girlfriend has an iPhone4 with Telus also, its often quicker than mine on the net...and its a 3g phone.
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see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306045
there are some from Montreal they are getting great speed
the thing is with cell phones, it depends highly in your location and tower
also in Canada do not believe anything that says 4G it's all fake
our infrastructure is poor compared to the USA, at best we can only get good 3G speed even when you see 4G
even the Rogers LTE are no where near as good they also top out around 15 Mbps at its best, while the USA or other counterparts they get like 30 Mbps on LTE

So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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850T5m said:
So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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It really all depends on where you are when you take the tests. Here is mine from just 5 minutes ago.
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850T5m said:
So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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I just tested mine and I got 19 down and 4 up on Telus. Most days I get an average of 10. I live outside of Vancouver. Downtown I am lucky to get 3.
Telus has always given me faster speeds than Rogers. I am very happy with Telus's network.
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850T5m said:
So i'm stuck with slow speeds lol?
I kinda regret going with Telus, they have terrible reception as well as slow speeds...
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I think you are just not tech savy enough to use a cell like the S2X. Try doing a speed test in your browser and you will see that the speed test.net app is crap. I get 21 mbps downlink on telus in mtl using speedtest.net in dolphin HD (using app I get 3-10mbps). Stop blaming the carriers. People like you are just never happy but its your own fault! Maybe also if you would test your phone outside your basement it would help! Mtl reception is flawless, actually reception in QC in general is great.

I have tried all the different modems from the kj3, vk1 and even the Blaze LB7 and different roms and I still get miserable speed on my phone. I have many friends with different phones even 3G phones that are doing alot better. I am getting speeds of less than 300 k downlaod with with full bars.

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I think you are just not tech savy enough to use a cell like the S2X. Try doing a speed test in your browser and you will see that the speed test.net app is crap. I get 21 mbps downlink on telus in mtl using speedtest.net in dolphin HD (using app I get 3-10mbps). Stop blaming the carriers. People like you are just never happy but its your own fault! Maybe also if you would test your phone outside your basement it would help! Mtl reception is flawless, actually reception in QC in general is great.
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This post fails so hard its unreal.

Striker333 said:
I have tried all the different modems from the kj3, vk1 and even the Blaze LB7 and different roms and I still get miserable speed on my phone. I have many friends with different phones even 3G phones that are doing alot better. I am getting speeds of less than 300 k downlaod with with full bars.
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I think some people had similar problems as you. I don't remember exactly but some workarounds are using the supercharger script and running those 3g scripts or whatever it's called.
Someone if i recall correctly couldn't get fast data at all, he opted for a warranty exchange and that fixed it for him.
If anything you could try making your own thread in the Q&A area and maybe those people who had similar problems can answer it for you. Obviously it's not because of your location because your friends' phones get fast speed in the same location

3G Speeds Lacking

Hey guys, just got my phone yesterday. This thing is blazing fast compared to my OC'd DINC in terms of processing power. However, my 3G speeds suck! My DINC would consistently be 1.5 mbps down and 500kbps up at my house. With the Nexus my very best has been 600kbps up. I have my friend's Droid Pro right next to my Nexus getting a full mbps faster than me.
This is a big deal for me as I only get 3G half the time I use my phone.
I am on the stock OS and kernel with unlocked bootloader and root. I also have CDMA only enabled.
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NOTE THESE SPEEDS ARE IN KBPS
Edited to explain these speeds are not good

So you get 100kbit better speeds upstream and that's bad? Sounds like you are just limited by whatever signal you get in your area as the 1.5 down is still not max for a dinc.
Edit: Sorry I couldn't see your screenshot in tapatalk had to paste the image shack URL into a browser, i was going from what you said. Those are some crap speeds. Try getting a new SIM from your carrier.
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It can be really hard to know if it's better or worse. There are so many variables that come into play like the congestion on the tower/network and congestion on the server your conducting the speed test on.

You don't need a new SIM if your EVDO speeds suck, you just.. are kind of SoL. I'm surprised you see 1.5 mpbs on your Incredible though, my EVDO speeds in Chicago were awful.

This is about the Max speed I can get where I live, Orange UK
Would you say that's a decent speed ??
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3m down is really good at least where I live, on the old 05/02 radio best I saw was 1.9 down now with the 06/04 radios I'm averaging about 2-2.5m down 1m up
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hurston2510 said:
This is about the Max speed I can get where I live, Orange UK
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Would you say that's a decent speed ??
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OP is talking about CDMA on Verizon. Which is never going to do any better than 1.5mbps or so.
Those speeds you're getting aren't great. But I'd just ask other users on the network where you live.

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Edit: Sorry I couldn't see your screenshot in tapatalk had to paste the image shack URL into a browser, i was going from what you said. Those are some crap speeds. Try getting a new SIM from your carrier.
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Sorry about that, I reposted the picture. Again, this is from a CDMA Nexus. My friend who has his nexus is consistently over 1mbps. However, his dad who has a Nexus is in the same boat as me.
Really baffled by this one.

I thonk 3.2 mbps is the best you can do on verizon iirc.
Crazy world, ay?

I have the same problem, I made a thread about this on droid forums here:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ga...ns/189683-signal-sucks-verizon-you-wrong.html
Compared to my old Droid X and a family members Droid RAZR my Galaxy Nexus doesn't even get HALF the speed and VERY crappy signal with constant dropped calls and trouble with data. Switching from Wi-fi to 3g takes from a couple of minutes to having to reboot the phone completely just for 3g to activate! This problem NEEDS to be fixed, verizon's solution to just increase the bars visually is a slap in the face to us experiencing this problem!

LaGgY_42o said:
I have the same problem, I made a thread about this on droid forums here:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ga...ns/189683-signal-sucks-verizon-you-wrong.html
Compared to my old Droid X and a family members Droid RAZR my Galaxy Nexus doesn't even get HALF the speed and VERY crappy signal with constant dropped calls and trouble with data. Switching from Wi-fi to 3g takes from a couple of minutes to having to reboot the phone completely just for 3g to activate! This problem NEEDS to be fixed, verizon's solution to just increase the bars visually is a slap in the face to us experiencing this problem!
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Exchange it. It's defective. No problems here.
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this is the best news for all T-MOBILE customers ever.

soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/

Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?

Our phone doesn't support att's lte but it does support 1900mhz 3g/4g
Newer Tmo phones will have lte most likely
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zander21510 said:
Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?
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The phones will probably use multiple bands at the same time ... hspa+ on one and LTE on another. Right now our SGS2 gets dual band hspa+

Cool deal. Although the best news ever for me, as a T-mobile customer, would be something along the lines of "Dear Loyal 10 year T-mobile customer, we are proud to inform you that your bill will be FREE forever, thank you for your continued loyalty."

I was thinking that T-Mobile have a sharing agreement with Sprint with in regards to LTE. I'm liking this plan much better with finally joining other 3G phones. I'm probably going to pick up an old 3 unlocked phone as a back up now in the near future.
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guys... you do know that LTE data packets are not the same as 3G data right?
so even if they are on 1900 radio frequency it does not mean they can get 3G 1900 on LTE 1900 and vice versa
the guy that wrote that piece of engadget was totally wrong in assuming that

yeah...I've owned a few phones, my E63 never received 3G under Tmo, it was a UMTS 850 / 1900 device, it worked with AT&T just fine. My N1 and NS were HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100; both supposedly only compatible with T-Mo's AWS. And our t989 is HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100...working with both Tmo and ATT's 3g UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+.
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?

zander21510 said:
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?
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using your assumption
if they use AWS band 1700 + 2100 for LTE like they are doing in Canada (Rogers, Bell, Telus) then yes, it will mean AWS phones made for HSPA 1700 / 2100 will not work on those 3 networks
because the technology is different, and thus data packets are different, even if they are on the same radio frequency
luckily in the case of the SGH-i727 counter part of our phone, is enough to flash it with the correct modem to get HSPA AWS instead of LTE AWS
however the case with the 1900 LTE frequency, does not enable current 1900 HSPA phones to work on LTE

This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.

Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII

Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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gallaxxeess said:
This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome

hompsar said:
Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
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no LTE is only build in on the i727 our T989 is missing the LTE chip, the i727 can run AWS when flashed with a proper Tmo radio
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Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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no, world phones are not compatible unless they have AWS 1700
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome
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there will be no iPhones in Tmo until they release an AWS 1700 version of it, if ever

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Sorry, but that LTE menu is false hope. It's been researched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095

ATTENTION Rogers LTE Users!

Spoke to a rogers rep and they said with the Galaxy S3, 20Mbps is highest achievable, with Iphone 5 42Mbps on the LTE Network. This is a load of poo.Any fix to making LTE faster on Galaxy s3 for rogers?

VarioIII said:
Spoke to a rogers rep and they said with the Galaxy S3, 20Mbps is highest achievable, with Iphone 5 42Mbps on the LTE Network. This is a load of poo.Any fix to making LTE faster on Galaxy s3 for rogers?
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Did you speedtest yourself? I think hes wrong. Good way for him to sell iphones though

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Did you speedtest yourself? I think hes wrong. Good way for him to sell iphones though
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i cant get more that 19kbps near Yorkdale in toronto

Lol im a Rogers tech support rep and have both of the phones and I can tell you that he doesn't know what he's talking about. In all my tests my galaxy s3 came up faster than the iphone 5
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I've gotten 42mbps down in oakville.
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alas1986 said:
Lol im a Rogers tech support rep and have both of the phones and I can tell you that he doesn't know what he's talking about. In all my tests my galaxy s3 came up faster than the iphone 5
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i called again and they told me LTE is varied by device, second rep to tell me. Im using SPEEDTEST app and all i get is 17mbps with 3/4 LTE bars hosted by TekSavy Solutions
USING 4.0.4 LH1 MODEM

The highest speed test I got was 47 Mbps in Richmond and I can consistently get above thirty around Vancouver. It's a lie.

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The highest speed test I got was 47 Mbps in Richmond and I can consistently get above thirty around Vancouver. It's a lie.
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are you using the google play Speedtest.net APP? you have the Dual Core Galaxy? What Modem you using. If you guys can test RIGHT NOW let me know your speeds in TORONTO

LOL.
The speed of your LTE is going to depend on a few things. Your signal strength, and current network traffic. It will vary throughout the day; the speed is only relative. Each phone that can support LTE will have, theoretically, the same speed range. The only difference will be where you are, how far from the network towers, etc.
If your phone is getting 19kbps, then it sounds like there's actually a problem. If your phone is rooted, flash back to stock touchwiz and double check. If there is still a problem, call to make sure that your account isn't throttled or something, and that there aren't any network issues locally.
Edit: I see you said you're getting 17mbps. Why is this a problem? That speed tells me that your network is working, but probably having traffic issues. 17mbps is not slow in any way, so why even complain.

Rogers rep? More like Apple rep.
Stock ICS on my S3

Lmao the first guy you talked to is tryin to sell iPhones. I just checked and there's nothing about that officially in any of the Rogers customer rep sheets. Realistic speeds are 15-25mb/sec.

That's strange. I'm on bell and have been able to reach 45 down at work.
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My highest is 47.5 I am usually over 40 when I check, this is in the burlington ontario area

One thing I have learned over the years is that the majority of cell phone company reps (there are exceptions) don't have a clue about what they are talking about! Here is my fastest, on Rogers, Sept 22, 2012. I was so amazed I saved it!
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rogers user here
I have seen 56mbps in scarborough

I reckon you've been bamboozled by this representative. A few people on Rogers have refuted your claim. It seems like it could be something to do with your phone or your location.
If actual representatives are telling you you're being throttled to half speed all the time though, then you should seize this opportunity. Tell them you only want to pay half the price and threaten to switch to Bell or something.
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Even on parakangdroid or whatever its called I got 52
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I usually get around 30-49 in Vancouver area (GVRD).
I tested right now and got 46Mbps. Yes, I'm with Rogers running Rogers' i747m with Bell's Jelly Bean leaked ROM.

VarioIII said:
are you using the google play Speedtest.net APP? you have the Dual Core Galaxy? What Modem you using. If you guys can test RIGHT NOW let me know your speeds in TORONTO
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Yep, Google Play Speedtest.net App on a Rogers i747M. I'm running the pre-rooted stock rom from Mr. Robinson. I didn't fiddle around with modems or kernels.

David Dee said:
One thing I have learned over the years is that the majority of cell phone company reps (there are exceptions) don't have a clue about what they are talking about! Here is my fastest, on Rogers, Sept 22, 2012. I was so amazed I saved it!
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Hey David Dee,
yup I can confirm, I clocked 64mbps DL.
Typically, I get around 15-25 in the areas I most go to.
But there are some good spots where I get between 40-60.
FOLKS...when testing with apps like speedtest.net, change servers and retest. Network congestion isn't just wireless user congestion, it's also the network path to the testing server....after the tower receives your signal.

LTE in St. Petersburg/Clearwater area tonight

Here's some speedtest I ran.Not the fastest but we finally have LTE. Let's hope it gets faster.
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Here's some speedtest I ran.Not the fastest but we finally have LTE. Let's hope it gets faster. View attachment 1631969View attachment 1631970View attachment 1631971
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it dosent sprint only rates it at 6 megs or something stupid. maybe at the end of the nv roll out it might improve
or not because you took thoes speed test with decent db and probally little to no tower load on the lte core
you do realize this should be part of the sticky on top

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it dosent sprint only rates it at 6 megs or something stupid. maybe at the end of the nv roll out it might improve
or not because you took thoes speed test with decent db and probally little to no tower load on the lte core
you do realize this should be part of the sticky on top
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Where did you read that Sprint rates it at 6 only?
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Where did you read that Sprint rates it at 6 only?
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sprint.com/lte
maybe it was 10 but it was something stupid low
oh yeah its 6-10 they rate its final roll out at.
sad cuz vzw is capable 30+ non spiking with a large load
anyone know the reason why?
never seen that speed even at sprint hq...

Dreamlogix said:
sprint.com/lte
maybe it was 10 but it was something stupid low
oh yeah its 6-10 they rate its final roll out at.
sad cuz vzw is capable 30+ non spiking with a large load
anyone know the reason why?
never seen that speed even at sprint hq...
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Sprint came out as fastest lte in recent tests. I would say partly due to low loads. It's 6-8 average and 25 peak. I'd say just fine enough speeds for a cell phone.
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Sprint came out as fastest lte in recent tests. I would say partly due to low loads. It's 6-8 average and 25 peak. I'd say just fine enough speeds for a cell phone.
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speed test made and skewed by sprint?
do you know what the others are rated at?... there a reason why sprint rates that low cuz their user load will be crazy and slow to a crawl like the last couple years.
also they have inferior spectrum holdings /backhaul ( there using microwave in some places) and from my personal experience they are rarely/ never pay to be at the top of a tower
atts hsdpa is capable of 6 megs not to mention their lte is faster + 800 coverage has been around for a while for them ill be lucky if i ever see 800 coverage in st pete.
... just simple facts not knocking ya or anything ( or sprint for that matter)
im happy with them finally after backhaul to my tower by my house got installed finally see over 1 meg some times on cdma altho nv/lte is not complete

Please discuss LTE in the sticky thread
Thanks
FNM