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What feature are you looking forward to the most? I've played around with the devs super rom and I've got to say it feels on like its on a whole other level than gingerbread. I'm looking forward to see how the face unlock goes.
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dlln147 said:
What feature are you looking forward to the most? I've played around with the devs super rom and I've got to say it feels on like its on a whole other level than gingerbread. I'm looking forward to see how the face unlock goes.
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I'm honestly excited obviously for vanilla ICS, but what I'm really excited about is what HTC is gonna do with sense 4.0 (as stated in another thread). They haven't failed to amaze yet (at least those who are sense fans) and I can't see how they'd let anyone down on the new functionalities of ICS.

I'm interested in sense ICS as well. Some sense Roms are a hit or miss to me so I'm excited to see how it would turn out.
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dlln147 said:
What feature are you looking forward to the most? I've played around with the devs super rom and I've got to say it feels on like its on a whole other level than gingerbread. I'm looking forward to see how the face unlock goes.
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I can't wait for asop vanilla ICS. I've been trying out the early dev mods and ICS is really impressive.

I'm incredibly excited about it. I really love the changes to the notification bar and the multi task app manager.

Im excited to brag about running ics at work... All the bigshots with "better" phones than me will turn green with envy!

OFish202 said:
Im excited to brag about running ics at work... All the bigshots with "better" phones than me will turn green with envy!
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This phone is pretty good compared to top phones out now though.
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dlln147 said:
This phone is pretty good compared to top phones out now though.
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I agree... It's gonna be better with some ice loving...
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OFish202 said:
I agree... It's gonna be better with some ice loving...
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This runs smoother than my friends Droid 3. ICS is only going to make it better.
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Plus... It doesnt look like we are talking on a calculator... The size is very managable.

Movie studio is going to be awesome. I hate to say this but the iPhone is leaps and bounds ahead of android when it comes to video. This will level the playing field for sure.
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3UR0TR45H said:
Movie studio is going to be awesome. I hate to say this but the iPhone is leaps and bounds ahead of android when it comes to video. This will level the playing field for sure.
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I'm excited about this too. Once I saw the demo for it I went nuts.
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3UR0TR45H said:
Movie studio is going to be awesome. I hate to say this but the iPhone is leaps and bounds ahead of android when it comes to video. This will level the playing field for sure.
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What's movie studio really going to do? I would personally never use my smartphone for editing more than a pic in photoshop express, much less try to touch up video.
For multi-format playback, I use MX Player with the Arm v7 codec for hardware acceleration. There is nothing that I've found that it can't play.

vrgelinas said:
What's movie studio really going to do? I would personally never use my smartphone for editing more than a pic in photoshop express, much less try to touch up video.
For multi-format playback, I use MX Player with the Arm v7 codec for hardware acceleration. There is nothing that I've found that it can't play.
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It's not so much about that as being able to touch up videos on the go. I consider imovie to be one of the top features on the iPhone and this will satisfy that need. It will basically turn the camcorder from a fun little gadget to a usable and valuable tool!
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Am I the only one who's really not terribly impressed with ICS? Actually pretty unimpressed overall? Of course, I want to clarify that by saying that I'm referring to the actual OS, not the current port to our phone. The guys working on that have done am amazing job.
But for the actual OS, I'm just not seeing what's so groundbreaking. I think the only feature I see that's actually nice is the auto-creation of folders. Aside from that, everything else is either ho-hum, or catch-up features.
-Scrollable and realizable widgets have existed on alternate launchers forever now. Nice to finally have them natively, but not terribly exciting.
-New app drawer layout is OK, but again, nothing groundbreaking. Moving all the widgets inside the drawer seems more inefficient than long-pressing on a home screen, especially if you have to scroll through several pages of widgets to locate your desired one.
-Face Unlock is a nice trick, but again, inefficient (or downright useless) for those who don't secure their phones in the first place. A quick flick of the thumb is hard to top as far as speed and ease go.
-NFC? Well, our phone doesn't have it to begin with, but even if it did, it's usefulness is pretty limited for the foreseeable future. How many times do you really transfer files between Android phones?
-The new UI, personally, I find pretty ugly. It's almost a total lack of any style, it's all lines and solid boxes. I suppose that's a style in itself, but I can't say it's a terribly pleasing one.
-The new search widget is now plastered on the top of every home screen, can only be removed by disabling the Google Search app, and upon doing so, you still can't reclaim the space used by the widget for icons or other widgets. I barely search on my phone enough to justify the current widget being placed on a single home screen, so to have one permanently on every screen is a PITA.
-The new camera features are nice, but at the end of the day, it's a camera phone. If I'm looking to take real photos, I'll use a real camera.
I don't know, the more useable the devs get their port, the more I've had a chance to play with ICS, and the more I'm convinced that, far from eliminating the need for carrier overlays, in my opinion, ICS actually makes them more valuable and necessary than they are today.
I honestly hate to say this, because I had been very much looking forward to it, but to me, the new UI just feels extremely unfinished and unimaginative, and the OS overall doesn't seem to break any new ground whatsoever.

I can't see HTC being able to do much with the ICS. Their brand recognition seems to rely on that huge weather clock and that general layout of sense that they have been using on every phone now. I can't see a lot of these "signature" stuff translating well into ICS, since most of it relies heavily on the gingerbread rom, which ICS seems to diverge quite a lot from.

PharmCAT said:
I can't see HTC being able to do much with the ICS. Their brand recognition seems to rely on that huge weather clock and that general layout of sense that they have been using on every phone now. I can't see a lot of these "signature" stuff translating well into ICS, since most of it relies heavily on the gingerbread rom, which ICS seems to diverge quite a lot from.
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Not sure I follow you. They can still build all their widgets for ICS, they can still replace the launcher with a Rosie'd version - a big phone button at the bottom with web and customize buttons on either side, and they can still skin the overall UI - the notification bar, icons, etc.
I just don't see how ICS, in any way, eliminates or negates the value manufacturers see in their overlays. And as the new UI aesthetics is unarguably more "love it or hate it" than previous versions of Android, I actually see overlays being even more attractive to the average consumer who might be comparing an Android phone to an iPhone.

ChrisDDD said:
Am I the only one who's really not terribly impressed with ICS? Actually pretty unimpressed overall? Of course, I want to clarify that by saying that I'm referring to the actual OS, not the current port to our phone. The guys working on that have done am amazing job.
But for the actual OS, I'm just not seeing what's so groundbreaking. I think the only feature I see that's actually nice is the auto-creation of folders. Aside from that, everything else is either ho-hum, or catch-up features.
-Scrollable and realizable widgets have existed on alternate launchers forever now. Nice to finally have them natively, but not terribly exciting.
-New app drawer layout is OK, but again, nothing groundbreaking. Moving all the widgets inside the drawer seems more inefficient than long-pressing on a home screen, especially if you have to scroll through several pages of widgets to locate your desired one.
-Face Unlock is a nice trick, but again, inefficient (or downright useless) for those who don't secure their phones in the first place. A quick flick of the thumb is hard to top as far as speed and ease go.
-NFC? Well, our phone doesn't have it to begin with, but even if it did, it's usefulness is pretty limited for the foreseeable future. How many times do you really transfer files between Android phones?
-The new UI, personally, I find pretty ugly. It's almost a total lack of any style, it's all lines and solid boxes. I suppose that's a style in itself, but I can't say it's a terribly pleasing one.
-The new search widget is now plastered on the top of every home screen, can only be removed by disabling the Google Search app, and upon doing so, you still can't reclaim the space used by the widget for icons or other widgets. I barely search on my phone enough to justify the current widget being placed on a single home screen, so to have one permanently on every screen is a PITA.
-The new camera features are nice, but at the end of the day, it's a camera phone. If I'm looking to take real photos, I'll use a real camera.
I don't know, the more useable the devs get their port, the more I've had a chance to play with ICS, and the more I'm convinced that, far from eliminating the need for carrier overlays, in my opinion, ICS actually makes them more valuable and necessary than they are today.
I honestly hate to say this, because I had been very much looking forward to it, but to me, the new UI just feels extremely unfinished and unimaginative, and the OS overall doesn't seem to break any new ground whatsoever.
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Word! So glad you wrote this. I've been thinking the same thing, but just didn't have the courage to say it!

3UR0TR45H said:
It's not so much about that as being able to touch up videos on the go. I consider imovie to be one of the top features on the iPhone and this will satisfy that need. It will basically turn the camcorder from a fun little gadget to a usable and valuable tool!
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I can't wait for this feature. With the birth of a baby girl, I plan on using the camcorder feature quite a bit!

Congrats bro

[APP] SPB Shell 3D

This is a sweet app found on the android market. I don't usually talk about apps on the market place. but this one was too cool to pass up and not share.
This is a launcher app. This is way better than the ICS standard launcher.
link: SPB Shell 3D

it's nice, but whenever i press the home key, it takes a while to load before it show up.

what do u think of the price? $15 sounds like alot. I make apps and i feel that this launcher is well worth the money. this thing is just smooth. I had a couple other launchers but i don't know this one is cool.
i have not ran many roms so i don't know if those are better but it's the coolest thing i have used.

i bought this the first day it came out, used it when i had my atrix which was like 3 weeks(hated it) then i stopped using it but now i use it on my old inspire, it's really nice and the widgets are amazing

cordell507 said:
i bought this the first day it came out, used it when i had my atrix which was like 3 weeks(hated it) then i stopped using it but now i use it on my old inspire, it's really nice and the widgets are amazing
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I feel compelled to agree that the widgets are exemplary. However, the look of the UI is displeasing. You might want to find some reviews or screenshots of the apps (e.g. here )

The one thing that I do not like though is that many of the graphics look low-res
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It's a really nice launcher but I will never pay $15 on a launcher... I don't care about purchasing apps but launcher should never cost more then $6 in my opinion
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I tried it and don't like it.
Graphic style looks dated and the over-the-top animations serve no function.

I tried it a long time ago. Wasn't a big fan of it. The widgets looked kinda eh...and there wasnt really any theming options. Of course that was a year ago.

jhericurls said:
I tried it and don't like it.
Graphic style looks dated and the over-the-top animations serve no function.
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Agreed. Stock ICS launcher or launchers built off it like Nova are much better imo.

bought it, refunded it. Really nice widgets and great concept. Very smooth, but the ram usage is ridiculous. If system kills it to free memory it takes like a solid 2 min to load. That killed it for me. That thing would take as much ram as everything I had running including the system combined almost.
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Not a fan here. Actually it is very disappointing, I expected SPB to improve or the UI and not simply release it for another OS.
Many moons ago, I used this on my Windows mobile 5 HP6955
it is identical to what they had years ago.
was fantastic back then and really improved the WM5 bland experience.
I prefer more efficient launchers now.

Motorola UI on Galaxy Nexus

After seeing the Atrix HD I loved the UI, was wondering if it could get ported over
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If you mean the home screen, then yes. There's a thread in the defy forums already. But if you're talking about the whole thing (SMS, dialer, camera UI etc), then no. You need the Motoblur framework.
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i think people have tried porting motoblur or whatever its called now lol, but the projects like that usually end up being forgotten or impossible ( probably not impossible just very difficult ). Some people will also probably come here and reply to you and be like oh its a nexus why would you ruin aosp lol, well to those people some of us like choices, anyways you can get a good cm10 moto theme in the theme section by a guy named vicino i think his themes are really good, and you could probably get the launcher like the guy above me said but the ui is a no go right now. Just remember tho this is a nexus and it gets a lot of development.
HERES THE THEME http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829784

Anything moto is difficult to the nature of the phones odd resolutions which don't work well on most devices. I suppose it should work on our device?
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1

I hated blur. There is no way I would even think about putting that on my gnex. The gnex is a pure google experience, don't screw it up with a moto ui. Find a nice theme instead!

mssam said:
I hated blur. There is no way I would even think about putting that on my gnex. The gnex is a pure google experience, don't screw it up with a moto ui. Find a nice theme instead!
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The new ICS blur isn't bad actually. IMO, it looks better than Touchwiz and Sense. But, that may just be me...
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tatperson said:
The new ICS blur isn't bad actually. IMO, it looks better than Touchwiz and Sense. But, that may just be me...
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It's by far the "best" skin in my opinion so I share the same opinion. I've even contemplated picking up an unbranded Atrix HD as a spare phone. I'll do so even faster if Motorola gets a Jelllybean update out there within the next month or so.
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[Q] Loving the Note 4 but...

I'm really loving my Note 4 I picked up back in December and it's performing exactly how I expected it to. However as I've been using a Nexus 4 for the last 2 years switching to a Samsung device is quite ... different. I really enjoyed the stock Android that I had with my Nexus. Does any body have some recommendations on how to get closer to that on my Note 4? I could do it a lot simpler with root but we're still waiting on that.
Thanks
-Xen

Xentradi said:
I'm really loving my Note 4 I picked up back in December and it's performing exactly how I expected it to. However as I've been using a Nexus 4 for the last 2 years switching to a Samsung device is quite ... different. I really enjoyed the stock Android that I had with my Nexus. Does any body have some recommendations on how to get closer to that on my Note 4? I could do it a lot simpler with root but we're still waiting on that.
Thanks
-Xen
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if you want the look of stock android try a different launcher

I use Nova to get away from the god-awfulness of TouchWiz. Still have to live with the ugly notification pull-down, but at least I can use icon sets.

Yeah I've been trying out Nova I'm not really liking some of the small quirks of it. I tried GEL but it's just not the same. I'm thinking of trying Apex next. Have you tried any other launchers?

I have Apex on my Z3c. You might find it more customizable.

which launcher make my sammy super responsive

I found playing with the S7 ( still do not own a Note 7, will arrive next week, but S7 has the same processor) that is not responsive as I would have imagined. ( Exynos, european version).
My question is how much I can improve in percentage point the performance of my telephone installing a lighter than touchwiz new launcher?
As I am not rooting the phone, will Touchwiz continue to take a consistent amount of RAM and processor power for background services?:laugh:

Nothing wrong with touchwiz now phones snappy as it should be
Try turning off animations in developer options.
If you have s7 then why don't you try various other launchers and do your own research instead of being lazy!!!!
What's good for one doesn't mean it's good for the other
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ChimpNippl3s said:
Nothing wrong with touchwiz now phones snappy as it should be
Try turning off animations in developer options.
If you have s7 then why don't you try various other launchers and do your own research instead of being lazy!!!!
What's good for one doesn't mean it's good for the other
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It is not mine the S7( also I should be quite rich to update from S7 to note7 ), I just played a bit. AFAIK in the video Samsung did a great job this year with Touchwiz, no doubt about that. Still I am curious to know which improvement I can have running a benchmark test with or without a light launcher.Possibly somebody did it.

trocchietto said:
I found playing with the S7 ( still do not own a Note 7, will arrive next week, but S7 has the same processor) that is not responsive as I would have imagined. ( Exynos, european version).
My question is how much I can improve in percentage point the performance of my telephone installing a lighter than touchwiz new launcher?
As I am not rooting the phone, will Touchwiz continue to take a consistent amount of RAM and processor power for background services?:laugh:
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I use nova launcher prime at the moment and intend on installing it on my note 7 when it arrives. It runs nice and quickly on my Xperia z3 so I imagined the note 7 will run very nicely with all the horsepower it offers!
Nova launcher can also be customised heavily allowing me to get my phone looking and operating just how I want it to.

nova is a very good launcher, I have used it since 5 phones ago, the best in my opinion

Nova launcher works great on N7 so far. First thing I download when I get a new phone

I like the Google Now launcher. But if you use it, beware not to turn on its listen-via-BT setting, as described at the end of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/help/sound-feedback-lag-replacement-note-7-t3467475

ChimpNippl3s said:
Nothing wrong with touchwiz now phones snappy as it should be
Try turning off animations in developer options.
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You're either blind or a liar.
Every Samsung phone still lags and drops frames. My Nexus 6P from last year, and every other flagship phone I've had this year, are basically lag and stutter free. Samsung packs too much crap onto their phones and gets away with it every year just like the article here on XDA pointed out. Turning off animations is not a good solution, if any solution at all. The lag is still going to be there, you just won't see it as easily.
If you want your phone to be faster, ditch the Samsung launcher for starters. I too highly recommend Nova. Also, buy one of the Package Disabler apps and turn off the junk you don't use. I still have a fairly feature rich Note7, but turned off crap I'll never use like the Edge screen, Samsung's launcher, and some built-in Samsung apps. The phone is pretty quick, especially since the last update, but there are still times where it stutters. Welcome to the world of Samsung. The only reason I accept it and deal with it is because they have the best camera, display, build, and features of all the flagships this year. But I prefer the software experience of my Nexus all day, every day.

I use htc sense beta. Perfectly fine for me actually

Nitemare3219 said:
You're either blind or a liar.
Every Samsung phone still lags and drops frames. My Nexus 6P from last year, and every other flagship phone I've had this year, are basically lag and stutter free. Samsung packs too much crap onto their phones and gets away with it every year just like the article here on XDA pointed out. Turning off animations is not a good solution, if any solution at all. The lag is still going to be there, you just won't see it as easily.
If you want your phone to be faster, ditch the Samsung launcher for starters. I too highly recommend Nova. Also, buy one of the Package Disabler apps and turn off the junk you don't use. I still have a fairly feature rich Note7, but turned off crap I'll never use like the Edge screen, Samsung's launcher, and some built-in Samsung apps. The phone is pretty quick, especially since the last update, but there are still times where it stutters. Welcome to the world of Samsung. The only reason I accept it and deal with it is because they have the best camera, display, build, and features of all the flagships this year. But I prefer the software experience of my Nexus all day, every day.
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I fully agree that samsung are amazing pieces of hardware, and furthermore they do not take Coltan from Congo mines:laugh:
On the other side i hate bloatware, but would like to have an easy feature to back up all the disabled packages from package disabler
( i am guessing you mean this ), because i need to run developer tests, and I am wondering how to update to the new android version if I have the bloatware deactivated!
my questions in order of importance for you and others are
1) Do package disabler support a backup?TIf so takes time to back up to the original settings, as it is a function I could do quite often. Also could be that is not tested for Samsung Note 7.(EDIT: I saw it supports backup from the video)
2) Nova will disable also the following cool functions? the security folder, the edge function and smaller screen to use with one hand? If so I prefer touchwiz, differently by you I am an edge fan

There are a couple general rules that apply across android with any launcher...
Get enough stuff running in the background and it will hurt your phones performance. The saying with PCs way back was, "If you don't use it, lose it". It still applies today and is applicable to phones and tablets as well. An application you don't use running in the background is at best dead weight and at worst could be costing you resources. Get rid of whatever constitutes bloat for you.
Lots of screens populated with lots of widgets is going to cost you on any launcher.
Beware of applications and widgets which are just plain using too many resources in and of themselves and those which were working fine by themselves but conflict with others when used together.
IMO Nova is a good choice for a lot of people, I use AL3 which is a bit different and works better with the way I like to lay out my phone. You can also try one of the contextual launchers and see if you like those, they don't work well for me because my schedule is too random and I travel for work but those I tried seemed to be light on resource usage.