[Q] New to the Inc2 & Android: Unlocking & Updating Questions - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

I recently bought a Incredible 2 for use overseas and wanted to confirm some things/had some questions:
1: According to the seller the phone has never been used/activated (Verizon seems to confirm this). As I do not want to activate it on Verizon, can I just buy an unlock code to unlock the SIM, bypass the activation screen and use the code? So far, googling doesn't seem to be telling me otherwise, but I wanted to check.
2: I was looking around on the threads on how to update without being on Verizon's network and just wanted to make sure I would be able to do so as well with an unactivated phone. (The activation screen isn't going to pop up and interfere with the process or anything?)
2b: It looks like there's two methods of updating with the official updates: through a PC if it's an exe or through the phone itself it it's a zip. Would I need anything else installed on the PC if I go with that method or is it just a matter of connect the phone (does it need to be in mass storage mode?) and run the exe? And which one would be easier for someone who has never done this before?
Thanks!

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Don't shoot the newbie!

So, I'm getting my first WinMo phone this week, an X02HT--presumably still locked to Softbank. My understanding is that I'll need to SIM-unlock it, and there is also some further software unlocking necessary?
Ideally, I'd love to keep the stock firmware on it, since it's bilingual already...I don't care about no MMS (the only limitation I've been able to find). For what it's worth, I'll be putting my ATT 3G sim in it.
So, just to clarify--I need to SIM-unlock it, and nothing else is necessary? Any recommendations on where to get the SIM unlock code?
Also, I read that people had to put new software on in order for the unlock code to be accepted?!
Forgive the confused newbie...I'm coming from the simple world of an unlocked Symbian phone
Edit: Fantastic, I forgot to fix the title before posting...good show.
So, I think I've answered my own first question in that I'll need to install the Japanese-only test-ROM in order to input the SIM-unlock. After doing so, how do I roll back to the original ROM, so that I may use the English-language functionality?

[Q] Sim Unlock for Travel with Rooted DINC 2

So I have been googling for answers for a few days now and I can't really seem to find a straight answer. I will be in Europe this summer and have a DINC2 that I am bringing with. In order to use a foreign (non-Verizon) SIM card I have to unlock my phone. For a DINC 2 stock ROM you can easily go into settings->security->unlock sim and type in the unlock code (which I have already received from Verizon). I have rooted though and am running Cyanogenmod 7. There is no option to unlock SIM in this ROM. I found an answer online that says if you flash a stock rom then you can unlock, I have not been able to find a stock rom for the DINC 2 though (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678250).
So here are my questions:
1) Does anyone have a link to the stock rom?
2) If I flash this ROM and unlock my SIM can I restore Cyangogenmod without losing my unlock?
3) Has anyone used a rooted DINC 2 outside of the US that has been unlocked from Verizon? If so, can I simply wait until I arrive at my destination and pop in the SIM card and type in my code that way?
Any help would be appreciated!
1) Stock based ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219471
OR
Complete RUU: http://www.filefactory.com/file/c25....01.1111_NV_VZW1.92_release_225831_signed.exe
2) I think it'd work but you'll have to try it yourself. Do you have a friend on a GSM carrier?
3) I have no idea but if the unlock is permanent, I think that's what you'd do.
Flashed the stock rom, unlocked the sim, and reflashed cyanogen. Everything seems to have worked great. I guess we'll see in a week if I can connect to a GSM network! Thanks for your help
According to Verizon the SIM unlock is permanent and you will not have to enter the code again. Even after flashing roms, stock restore, etc.
In addition, andyBonestock's ROM and SkyRaider's Zeus v1.3 Sense ROM are based on stock and I can personally confirmed them to be working in a rooted & Sim unlocked DI2. As VZW customer in good standing, you call Global Support & within 5 to 10 minutes, CSR will find the 8 digits unlock code and walk you thru the steps - scroll thru the Settings and input it, press the Enter key and DI2 will reboot after showing it's unlocked (yes, it IS permanent)
For voice & SMS, AT&T and T-Mobile (and, China Mobile HK) Sim cards will work (power down, insert Sim, restart) - broadband/WiFi access will need proper APN settings, and, account will need to be provisioned for data access.
DI2 was in GSM mode, unlocked & worked fine when we're in Bermuda last month.
Letitride said:
In addition, andyBonestock's ROM and SkyRaider's Zeus v1.3 Sense ROM are based on stock and I can personally confirmed them to be working in a rooted & Sim unlocked DI2. As VZW customer in good standing, you call Global Support & within 5 to 10 minutes, CSR will find the 8 digits unlock code and walk you thru the steps - scroll thru the Settings and input it, press the Enter key and DI2 will reboot after showing it's unlocked (yes, it IS permanent)
For voice & SMS, AT&T and T-Mobile (and, China Mobile HK) Sim cards will work (power down, insert Sim, restart) - broadband/WiFi access will need proper APN settings, and, account will need to be provisioned for data access.
DI2 was in GSM mode, unlocked & worked fine when we're in Bermuda last month.
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Thank you so much for your information. Just wondering, are you still able to use global sim? I use MROM and if I reboot my phone after flashing the SIM is back locked again
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... are you still able to use global sim? I use MROM and if I reboot my phone after flashing the SIM is back locked again
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Yes, affirmatively - Mrs. L has continuously run her red DI2 on SkyRaider Zeus and GSM mode is fine. I was running SR too - it had no problem when we're cruising down in the Caribbean islands - switched off CDMA to avoid roaming & data charges on the ship and on land, used my China Mobile prepaid Sim, great for voice and Int'l SMS - no data roaming as it is NOT provisioned for and tapped WiFi @ local Starbucks - locked onto a 3G AT&T tower in Old San Juan, PR. Every now & then, it might find & stay with a T-Mobile signal, but usually the Sim card settings prefer AT&T over T-Mo.
Currently, I'm running Nit's Stock Sense v5.0.m-ext4 Rom, it's global ready - works just as good - have played with all of the new custom Roms but always finding my way back to 1 of the 3 Roms mentioned here as the default. Have Currents, Google+, Play Magazine, Play Music & SoundHound, OneNote, QuickOffice and Wireless Tether running on mine - and I get to play the latest JB 4.2.2 on the Nexus 7 WiFi tablet, so this is fine for my needs.
Heading toward the end of our 2 year contract, main/primary line will be eligible for upgrade next month but I'm not in a hurry to let go of unlimited 3G data (although my usage has been consistently under 1GB/mo, mostly 500 MB or so. Already trying to re-sign me for another 24 months with an early upgrade Email offer that I must call in for ...
Verizon unlock code
Daveee6 said:
So I have been googling for answers for a few days now and I can't really seem to find a straight answer. I will be in Europe this summer and have a DINC2 that I am bringing with. In order to use a foreign (non-Verizon) SIM card I have to unlock my phone. For a DINC 2 stock ROM you can easily go into settings->security->unlock sim and type in the unlock code (which I have already received from Verizon). I have rooted though and am running Cyanogenmod 7. There is no option to unlock SIM in this ROM. I found an answer online that says if you flash a stock rom then you can unlock, I have not been able to find a stock rom for the DINC 2 though (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678250).
So here are my questions:
1) Does anyone have a link to the stock rom?
2) If I flash this ROM and unlock my SIM can I restore Cyangogenmod without losing my unlock?
3) Has anyone used a rooted DINC 2 outside of the US that has been unlocked from Verizon? If so, can I simply wait until I arrive at my destination and pop in the SIM card and type in my code that way?
Any help would be appreciated!
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I am planning the same thing: going to Europe next month with a recently rooted phone. Did you just call Verizon and they gave you a code? Did you tell them you were traveling or did you make up some sort of story? Thanks!
-Dave
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Also I am planning on flashing CyanogenMod very soon. I assume you would now recommend that I wait for the code and unlock the SIM before I do that, correct?
dml5064 said:
... Did you just call Verizon and they gave you a code? Did you tell them you were traveling or did you make up some sort of story? ... Also I am planning on flashing CyanogenMod very soon. I assume you would now recommend that I wait for the code and unlock the SIM before I do that, correct?
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Things might've changed a bit at Big Red with the unlocking code, but not by much. First, I would strongly recommend using a near stock global Rom (Andy Bone's - the difference being that it'll stayed unrooted and 99.5% stock basically - Superuser installed.
You need to be a Big Red customer in good standing (bills are paid/current & on account for 3 or 6 months continuously) - and have a non VZW-Vodafone Sim (known working prepaid Sim from AT&T Gophone, T-Mobile, or foreign Sim for test & verification afterward) - phone should be S-off and unlocked, CWM installed if possible (so that you can make a full backup copy of your Stock Rom with APN/PRL (save it to a HDD, USB or Cloud storage)
Call up VZW from another phone line (mobile, home/office, VOIP or whatever - that they can call you back from if necessary - ie. disconnected while on hold) - from among the automated Menu option & voice prompt, select Tech Support for smartphone and/or Global Support - if you get routed somewhere else, ask them to forward to Global Support.
Give them your account info & verify, passcode and/or Soc. Sec. etc. - tell them you need to unlock the DI2 for travel and to be able to use another prepaid Sim card. S/he will read their scripts and inform you that you are responsible for charges, damages and will have no access to support - acknowledge & agree, they will ask confirm your email address & send you the written disclaimers, etc. You might be put on hold for a few minutes, do NOT hang up - make sure they have your immediate call back # - as they will need to go into their database & look up your IMEI's unlock code. Once they have it, they will come back on and walk you steps-by-steps, to go to the Start Menu and submenu, and get to the unlock screen - input the code (I believe it was 8+ digits) - and as soon as the last correct digit is entered, the screen will refresh & say unlocked. Next, exit & close those submenu, turn off & reboot the phone - whatever instructions, just follow it.
With your own "foreign/non-VZW" Sim already installed, you should be able to switch to GSM mode under Wireless & networks / Mobile neworks - and see the new "Carrier's Name" displayed and likely an (E)dge symbol instead of 3G, that is your confirmation of a successful unlock. It is permanent, regardless of switch & flashing to other Rom, etc.
That's it. Copy & flash your choice of Global Roms, unless you are planning to use the DI2 overseas or elsewhere and not using CDMA again ever, I recommend staying with one of the proven ones here - ICS/JB or 4.x ones are cool to play, but battery life is average at best - trust me on this one from personal experience while traveling. Customize & configure the Rom to your own liking - plenty of Google Play (Store) update once it is up & running as many of the preloaded Apps have been revised/updated many times since - best/fastest over a good WiFi connection - then, make both a TB backup of the Apps and a full CWM Recovery backup image - save them both to HDD/USB and Cloud Storage - mission accomplished.
For use within USA, you will have 100% working voice calling & SMS/texting with AT&T and/or T-Mo's GSM network, and 2.5G data only if your plan has data bundled as add-on, and the APN settings are auto-updated/loaded. That's about it - for as little as $30/mo - you can use this device for unlimited calling and texting, and works great when you are on broadband over WiFi. Load an offline Map like Nav free USA with maps (16GB or 32GB mSD is recommended for storage) and you can maintain turn-by-turn navigation on the go.
Any other questions, please feel free to ask and/or leave me a PM - and will try to address them as best as I can on practical usage. For technical help on specific Roms, the developers are your best friends. Good luck, enjoy & have fun.

[Q] Device won't connect to any network

Hi, I have an SGH-I747M that was originally purchased through Bell. In an attempt to unlock to make it work on Koodo, I went through SamMobile (after reading there was no way to unlock post 4.3 OTA update) and that seemed to half work.They resell a service from 123unlock.nl which is a client that uses adb or something of the sort to mess with phone files. The program afterwards said "Your phone is now unlocked! However if you don't see any carriers you need to do something in the advanced option and pay another $2x.xx dollars to do so". I didn't feel like giving them any more money at this point because I was upset that what I originally paid for didn't work properly. The fix was apparently an option in the advanced options that was an NVM repair/rebuild or something of the sort. I should have screenshotted the issue but of course didn't.
Now, the phone will boot up and does not offer me a SIM unlock option anymore. When searching for carriers it will ever only find Rogers for some reason. It won't recognize Koodo or Telus or anything of the sort (or bell when my bell SIM is in). Every now and then when it boots up, it will successfully send a text but only within a 5-10 second time frame after boot (I've made 1 phone call as well for 3 seconds). I've tried the Koodo SIM in my own Nexus 5 and works fine so the network is okay at least (plus I called Koodo and they verified on their end things look good... if that makes a difference). The SGS3 won't even accept an original Bell SIM at this point. It's always on either no network, 1 bar or full bars, never anything in between. I've tried flashing different ROMs from Bell stock to Koodo stock and CM11 and it won't work no matter what I do. Under all ROMs it pops up an "ME Returned temporary error" message on the screen.
I'm hoping someone might have seen this issue before or know what's going on with the phone that I can fix. I'm assuming it's something to do with the modem part of the phone that's refusing to connect to carriers but I'm at a loss to fix it. I haven't tried flashing different modems on it yet because I'm unsure which one would be a good fix and no one has had roughly the same issue I could find in 3 days of Googling for this issue. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
sgtcanadian said:
Hi, I have an SGH-I747M that was originally purchased through Bell. In an attempt to unlock to make it work on Koodo, I went through SamMobile (after reading there was no way to unlock post 4.3 OTA update) and that seemed to half work.They resell a service from 123unlock.nl which is a client that uses adb or something of the sort to mess with phone files. The program afterwards said "Your phone is now unlocked! However if you don't see any carriers you need to do something in the advanced option and pay another $2x.xx dollars to do so". I didn't feel like giving them any more money at this point because I was upset that what I originally paid for didn't work properly. The fix was apparently an option in the advanced options that was an NVM repair/rebuild or something of the sort. I should have screenshotted the issue but of course didn't.
Now, the phone will boot up and does not offer me a SIM unlock option anymore. When searching for carriers it will ever only find Rogers for some reason. It won't recognize Koodo or Telus or anything of the sort (or bell when my bell SIM is in). Every now and then when it boots up, it will successfully send a text but only within a 5-10 second time frame after boot (I've made 1 phone call as well for 3 seconds). I've tried the Koodo SIM in my own Nexus 5 and works fine so the network is okay at least (plus I called Koodo and they verified on their end things look good... if that makes a difference). The SGS3 won't even accept an original Bell SIM at this point. It's always on either no network, 1 bar or full bars, never anything in between. I've tried flashing different ROMs from Bell stock to Koodo stock and CM11 and it won't work no matter what I do. Under all ROMs it pops up an "ME Returned temporary error" message on the screen.
I'm hoping someone might have seen this issue before or know what's going on with the phone that I can fix. I'm assuming it's something to do with the modem part of the phone that's refusing to connect to carriers but I'm at a loss to fix it. I haven't tried flashing different modems on it yet because I'm unsure which one would be a good fix and no one has had roughly the same issue I could find in 3 days of Googling for this issue. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Can you check your phone's settings => About Device and let's know what parameters you have there (Android Version, Baseband Version, Build Number>.
You mentioned you can send text or make call within a limited time frame. Was that with the Koodo SIM or the Bell? If the former, it would suggest the phone is unlocked to some extent but you are probably experiencing a baseband failure or need to correct the APN settings. Did you also try doing a factory reset?
Larry2999 said:
Can you check your phone's settings => About Device and let's know what parameters you have there (Android Version, Baseband Version, Build Number>.
You mentioned you can send text or make call within a limited time frame. Was that with the Koodo SIM or the Bell? If the former, it would suggest the phone is unlocked to some extent but you are probably experiencing a baseband failure or need to correct the APN settings. Did you also try doing a factory reset?
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The information you're asking for is attached.
The texts I got off were from the Koodo SIM. I have updated the APN as well, and I did do a flash back to stock resetting all settings through Kies emergency update. I found a little trick where if you softbrick it by trying to flash 4.1, it'll give you the "Please use kies" error and that'll take you back to full stock 4.3. I'm pretty sure the baseband failure is the option I need to explore but at this point I don't know where to go to fix this.
Edit: I read this online and tried it: "The 4.3 update introduces a "security feature" which requires carrier- or region-locked phones to be activated once on the original locked network before the unlock code will work." The phone didn't recognize any network with the Bell SIM in except "EXT" which I've never heard of before and it did not connect properly so that didn't work. I also read that inputting #7465625*638*# will give me the Samsung SIM unlock menu which it did however I don't think the issue here is with the root and I'd hate to pay $50 at this point to have that not work as well.
sgtcanadian said:
The information you're asking for is attached.
The texts I got off were from the Koodo SIM. I have updated the APN as well, and I did do a flash back to stock resetting all settings through Kies emergency update. I found a little trick where if you softbrick it by trying to flash 4.1, it'll give you the "Please use kies" error and that'll take you back to full stock 4.3. I'm pretty sure the baseband failure is the option I need to explore but at this point I don't know where to go to fix this.
Edit: I read this online and tried it: "The 4.3 update introduces a "security feature" which requires carrier- or region-locked phones to be activated once on the original locked network before the unlock code will work." The phone didn't recognize any network with the Bell SIM in except "EXT" which I've never heard of before and it did not connect properly so that didn't work. I also read that inputting #7465625*638*# will give me the Samsung SIM unlock menu which it did however I don't think the issue here is with the root and I'd hate to pay $50 at this point to have that not work as well.
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It's unlikely to be the regional lock as this feature means your phone will work with compatible networks in the region but not in other regions. You may, however, run Chainfire's Region Lock Away to be sure <http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470551>
Your firmware settings look OK so I'd be doubtful about a corrupted modem. You may still try to re-flash the modem via custom recovery. Download link for the CWM flashable zip is available here ... http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23252070760973552
The guys who sold you the original code seem to have sold a dud as there is no reason for them to be asking for secondary payments and this sounds like the footprint of a regular scam. I'd be surprised though as they seem to be well rated
Larry2999 said:
It's unlikely to be the regional lock as this feature means your phone will work with compatible networks in the region but not in other regions. You may, however, run Chainfire's Region Lock Away to be sure <http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470551>
Your firmware settings look OK so I'd be doubtful about a corrupted modem. You may still try to re-flash the modem via custom recovery. Download link for the CWM flashable zip is available here ... http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23252070760973552
The guys who sold you the original code seem to have sold a dud as there is no reason for them to be asking for secondary payments and this sounds like the footprint of a regular scam. I'd be surprised though as they seem to be well rated
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I've tried reflashing the modem and I've actually paid $50 for the unlock code from Bell, the original carrier. I used the code to get the network unlock menu and inserted the code. I still get between 1-4 bars now with no network access on either network. It's not showing anything except Rogers still in network operator selection.
Any ideas at this point? It refuses to connect to any networks. I'm out of options.
Edit: I don't know if this makes a difference, but when I do root explorer I can't actually find the nv_data.bin file. It doesn't have anything of the sort in the /efs folder.
sgtcanadian said:
I've tried reflashing the modem and I've actually paid $50 for the unlock code from Bell, the original carrier. I used the code to get the network unlock menu and inserted the code. I still get between 1-4 bars now with no network access on either network. It's not showing anything except Rogers still in network operator selection.
Any ideas at this point? It refuses to connect to any networks. I'm out of options.
Edit: I don't know if this makes a difference, but when I do root explorer I can't actually find the nv_data.bin file. It doesn't have anything of the sort in the /efs folder.
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Please let me understand a few things ... when you first acquired the phone, was it working normally on Bell prior to the first unlock attempt or you never used it at all until you tried Koodo? Secondly, was the unlock code you got from Bell identical to the one you got from the online service?
I'm trying to establish if it is a case of hardware failure not reported by the previous user especially if you bought it pre-owned from the secondary market. If you are not sure of the previous usage history, it could be a faulty or disconnected antenna which may require professional service. On the other hand if you are sure it was working fine prior to the unlock attempt, try the following ...
1) From the dial pad, enter *#197328640#
2) [1] UMTS
3) [1] DEBUG SCREEN
4) [8] PHONE CONTROL
5) [6] NETWORK LOCK
6) [3] PERSO SHA256 OFF
7) Press Menu => Back button and go all the way back to Step 3) above
8) [6] COMMON
9) [6] NV REBUILD
10) [1] NV REBUILD
Reboot and restart and let's see if this does it.
I've got a similar symtom different scenario (sister in-laws phone). I was also only able to see Rogers network on a search. I've got Telus version. It was working fine until it was brought to the Philippines, got unlocked there and brought back to Canada.
I was only able to see Rogers network until I went into the Service Menu (similar to above) and found the option to change the band. I changed it to Automatic. After that I was able to see Telus network. When trying to connect/register it would take a long time and give me an error "Unable to connect, try again later". I still need to do more troubleshooting, but that might be something to look at.
Note: Phone has stock MOD ROM, rooted and unlocked.

How to unlock LG-VS870 4G LTE by Verizon

Hello XDA community,
I have Verizon's LG-VS870 4G LTE smartphone [http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-VS870-lucid2]. Now I'm in Canada and would like to use this phone instead of buying a new one, therefore I was told to unlock it. Apparently it's legal to unlock your phone now: http://lifehacker.com/you-can-now-legally-unlock-your-cellphone-heres-what-i-1614787933
So I searched online for how to unlock my LG phone. Found many results that tell me the first half of the steps. Found a couple of threads here too about it, but no concrete solution. Some people said this phone isn't going to work on GSM after you unlock it, but I found this patch thread here that says otherwise: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394689
I have the original Verizon SIM card with me too.
Won't ya kindly help a bloke out and tell him how to get the unlock code for his LG-VS870?
So, I tried to root it and was successful with Framaroot. Then Installed Clockwork. Then attempted to install the above mentioned patch using Clockworks recovery mode, but it didn't appear to fix the GSM lock. Whenever I insert my SIM card I get an icon that looks like a SIM card with a question mark inside a red circle at the top right. And when I try to dial a number, any number, I get some chineese lady saying something.
Any idea what does that mean?
I just unbricked/unrooted my phone back to 711A firmware and 4.1.2 Android as it was all the way from the beginning.
Here's the vocaroo recording of the chinese lady(WARNING! TURN DOWN YOUR VOLUME FIRST!): vocaroo.com/i/s0C5ObqOLK6Y

Unlocking and then flashing a spare S3?

Hi folks, my dad gave me his old S3 last month when he upgraded to an S5, and I am trying to use it as a backup/spare but I am on T-Mobile. the S3 is already running 4.4.2 so I understand I need to obtain an unlock code from some site, ATT already told me no since my dad technically didnt fulfill his contract (bought the S5 through craigslist).
I have seen that I can buy an unlock code and enter it manually, but I have also seen several ebay listings saying they would remotely connect to my phone and unlock it via software, meaning I had to connect the S3 to computer with USB and then to internet. I dont think I should do this.
I also want to flash to CM11, but I am not sure if the unlock will be lost during the flashing process? should I flash first and then unlock?
I recommend buying an unlock code from eBay.
Do not flash a custom rom until after you enter the unlock code as you need a stock Samsung dialler to enter the code.
Once it is sim unlocked, the phone will be permanently unlocked.
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I'm in roughly the same sitch..
I thought it was easier to switch carriers than requiring the purchasing of an un-lock code?
Since I really don't want to fork out any more moneys...
No one has more suggestions?
Thanks!
I3ig Al said:
Hi folks, my dad gave me his old S3 last month when he upgraded to an S5, and I am trying to use it as a backup/spare but I am on T-Mobile. the S3 is already running 4.4.2 so I understand I need to obtain an unlock code from some site, ATT already told me no since my dad technically didnt fulfill his contract (bought the S5 through craigslist).
I have seen that I can buy an unlock code and enter it manually, but I have also seen several ebay listings saying they would remotely connect to my phone and unlock it via software, meaning I had to connect the S3 to computer with USB and then to internet. I dont think I should do this.
I also want to flash to CM11, but I am not sure if the unlock will be lost during the flashing process? should I flash first and then unlock?
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If the phone is running 4.3 or higher stock bootloader, you will have to get a code, no way around it. If there is a free method without requiring carrier intervention, it hasn't been found.
Just get an at&t sim card from like straight talk. My phone isn't rooted (got it the exact same way only from mom!)
Look at the sim. The underlined portion of the number will start wit 103 or 104. If you get an error that says "sim not provisioned" etc, that one works. Put service on it and see.
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That's how you get around a carrier lock. Because its still using at&t network.

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