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The phone also feels tangibly heavier.
Think it may be a Super LCD screen rather than AMOLED (how can I check?). Overall, the screen just looks grey. I want my old AMOLED one back?!
Some things to try:
- look at the screen through a circular polarisation filter, eg. RealD glasses (no idea if this works with SLCD...)
- set brightness to maximum and display a black image in a dark room
- look really closely at the screen with a magnifier (or someone with good eyesight) to see if it's Pentile (I guess an LCD screen could be Pentile too...)
- weigh the phone on some good scales to see if it really is any heavier
I've weighed it - and it's just a bit higher than 135 grams. Even though it matches the spec listed on HTC's website, I still think my previous phone was lighter. Now to test the AMOLED screen. Hmm..
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Some things to try:
- set brightness to maximum and display a black image in a dark room
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the backlight is apparent then. when i switch the phone off, it goes completely black, otherwise it's a grey colour. does that mean it is not AMOLED?
It certainly sounds like that may be the case
Would you be able to post pictures? This is bad news for anyone wanting a replacement. AMOLED was a big selling point for me.
However,
Can you read it in daylight outdoors?
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the backlight is apparent then. when i switch the phone off, it goes completely black, otherwise it's a grey colour. does that mean it is not AMOLED?
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If it's LCD, can I have your Desire then? I hate the Pen-Tile pixel layout...
Seems the black wallpaper in the dark test isn't a valid avenue to test if it's AMOLED (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725656).
Think it may be either me just imagining things - or a defective AMOLED screen.
I'm sending my Desire for repair as I have dust under my screen, I contacted HTC support worried if I may get an LCD screen and they asured me they are currently still using AMOLED displays only
tell me if my screen looks washed out to you. I'm sure my last desire, the colours were a lot more vivid.
Can't really tell if it looks washed out in a photo with nothing to compare it to, but it's definitely a Pentile matrix...
Yes, definitely Pentile. Damn.
Well to me it looks ok and very much the same as mine. I have never returned my Desire to be fixed.
My colors are very vibrant and i can see the screen on daylight (using auto-brightness).
I have noticed one thing on your photos though: your Internet icon is different from mine. Yours seems an older icon, really washed out, being gray and having the home icon. Mine looks more recent, it's a earth icon in blue (same blue as the mail or message icons) with some orbits rotating around the world...
Could this be it?
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Well to me it looks ok and very much the same as mine. I have never returned my Desire to be fixed.
My colors are very vibrant and i can see the screen on daylight (using auto-brightness).
I have noticed one thing on your photos though: your Internet icon is different from mine. Yours seems an older icon, really washed out, being gray and having the home icon. Mine looks more recent, it's a earth icon in blue (same blue as the mail or message icons) with some orbits rotating around the world...
Could this be it?
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The internet icon i think is Orange's reworking (notice the orange door to the house).
I just wanted to mention, I 've had 5x different Desires and some have had a more vibrant screen to others.
Through the range of brightness from minimal to maximum I've definitely been able to see that some of the handsets are bright but seem to have very slightly less clarity, whilst others have a sharper image but loose some vividness.
I prefer the brighter / more colourful one I have now.
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I just wanted to mention, I 've had 5x different Desires and some have had a more vibrant screen to others.
Through the range of brightness from minimal to maximum I've definitely been able to see that some of the handsets are bright but seem to have very slightly less clarity, whilst others have a sharper image but loose some vividness.
I prefer the brighter / more colourful one I have now.
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5 Desires. I've been through 3 so far. The first two were very similar (although the second one for some reason just felt so much lighter). This one is washed out. Going to try and phone Orange and try and see if I can have another one sent. :/
Hi,
I've just got my One X and it's fantastic.
I've noticed that the capacitive buttons at the bottom are perhaps a little bit dim... in pictures they look solid bright white but mine have an almost purple sort of tint to them and don't seem incredibly bright.
I've got a Sensation too and I'd say that looks about the same as well.
I've just taken a picture of it and in that they appear solid white as well so I think there's a good chance they all look like this.
Anyone else noticed this? I think I'm just being fussy.
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Hi,
I've just got my One X and it's fantastic.
I've noticed that the capacitive buttons at the bottom are perhaps a little bit dim... in pictures they look solid bright white but mine have an almost purple sort of tint to them and don't seem incredibly bright.
I've got a Sensation too and I'd say that looks about the same as well.
I've just taken a picture of it and in that they appear solid white as well so I think there's a good chance they all look like this.
Anyone else noticed this? I think I'm just being fussy.
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My light up. Good enough. I've never reflected over the brightness though. Just that they light up good enough for me to see em. But yes. Mine are a little "purpleish" aswell.
It's a little blue-ish indeed and they don't light up that much unless in a pretty dark space. I think this was mainly to not make them distractive.
Indeed, this is what I thought as the Sensation is exactly the same.
Cheers guys!
so interestingly enough, 2/3 of my capasitive buttons are working flawlessly, in terms of brightness. The multitask button (far right) is only lit at the bottom of the left corner of the bigger square.
This is why I wish the One Series (maybe minus the One V) all used SoftKeys like the GNexus
Yes I agree. It's pretty much the only niggle I have with my phone all icons are fully lit have a bluish tint and seem slightly dull
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Just got my Verizon nexus, loving it so far. Ditched my 4s, no regrets. I'm pretty ocd about these sorts of things, so I had a question. My screen is gorgeous, but there seems to be an extremely faint green tint on the curved part of the screen. It is most visible with the brightness turned down, and practically invisible with brightness up. It is similar to the slight green shift I see when I look at the rest of the display off-angle, which leads me to think the tint is caused by viewing angle on the curve. I know amoled screens can have tinting problems, and have seen ones with that issue, but the location and nature of this tint makes me think the curve is the culprit. Has anyone else noticed the curve affecting viewing angle/tint? Thanks!
Probably due to refraction caused by the curvature.
That's what I was thinking, but I found it strange no one had mentioned it anywhere (as far as I can find). Although after looking through the screen normal/not normal sticky, I think I should stop worrying about it and count my blessings.
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Heh, yep. It actually sounds like you got a good phone if that's all you can find wrong. I think you'll completely forget about it within a few days. And congratulations and welcome to the gnex world.
The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
I don't see it. Sorry.
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The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
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There shouldn't be any differences viewed at any angle with this screen. Try this... in bright sunlight, with the screen off, look at the screen on an angle. It should look a uniform color - actually almost exactly matching the titanium bronze bezel... just to make sure there is no physical defect.
Something to note - if the screen is OK, it could be your eyes (not joking). The eyes can play many tricks - for example, seeing a lightly shaded box with text on a piece of paper that is only black and white - the box can appear to be shaded slightly red. That's one example, but there are many. And with the resolution and technology of this screen, there are no imperfections to draw your attention, like staircasing, blur, backlight irregularities, that you are used to seeing. It is a bit confusing to our physiology, and our brain does this thing called "patternization" that can contribute to us truly seeing something other than it is. This seems to be more subtle, yet more frustrating on a display that is so close to perfect.
I'm not saying that there is something with your eyes specifically. It could certainly be a defective screen. One way to find out would be to take a look at someone else's - also, if you have another decent camera, you can take a picture of the screen and look at the picture - that will usually confirm (or not) whether what you are seeing is there. Like I said, it's not you or your eyes I'm dissing. These are things I've picked up on over the years. In fact, it could ONLY be my eyes. If that's the case, I'd probably rather not know.
You can also use a colorimeter and software like HFCR to get the discreet measurements from different parts of the screen. When I have done this, I've found that there was no real difference in chromacity. Of course, that has always made me walk away thinking that the colorimeter must not be accurate. So human.
I would definitely be interested in your feedback about what you find because I've obsessed over high resolution displays trying to figure out what is real and what I'm imagining... it's an active area of interest for me.
Mike
Armpowered said:
The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
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Yes I have also noticed this. I've seen these green or pink tints on all the amoled devices I've owned. You need pretty good eyesight to be able to notice it. You shouldn't be bothered by it, they're all like that, if you can see it. But you'll get used to it.
I probably will not get used to it...
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I probably will not get used to it...
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Thanks Freshman206 and SrAdama, glad (?) to hear that it's not just me, I've had the tablet just over a week and still notice it. Any slight tilt and the colours appear/shift, green, pink and when angled beyond what I'd consider normal, blue.
Have photographed it and will have another go at getting it clearer but by winding up saturation the effect becomes visible in the photos (on pc).
I'm now trying to decide what to do about it, I have an LG G Pad which doesn't annoy in this way, though it has just gone away for a warranty screen repair for bright spots (not stuck pixels)!
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Thanks Freshman206 and SrAdama, glad (?) to hear that it's not just me, I've had the tablet just over a week and still notice it. Any slight tilt and the colours appear/shift, green, pink and when angled beyond what I'd consider normal, blue.
Have photographed it and will have another go at getting it clearer but by winding up saturation the effect becomes visible in the photos (on pc).
I'm now trying to decide what to do about it, I have an LG G Pad which doesn't annoy in this way, though it has just gone away for a warranty screen repair for bright spots (not stuck pixels)!
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It is probably the antiglare coating you are seeing.. If you have the coating on your glasses and check them out, it will do the same thing as your tablet... I also noticed it appears to have a anti fingerprint coating on as well, very nice indeed :>
In shops I also have compared 3 different Tab S.
All had an immediately visible green tint, white looks not white but greenish and a bit "washed out".
I find it a bit surprising that with other devices, when they have a tint (like the yellow tint of the Xperia Tablet Z), people complain much, while here, with this really apparent tint, people tend to say: It's normal, get used to it...
I would never buy a Tab S, just because of this tint and because of the, compared to other devices, low maximal brightness.
These devices are overrated.
I ran a poll in this forum as to whether people were satisfied with white reproduction on their tablets or not. Out of 15 responses 12 were satisfied.
We have heard reports of manufacturing defects such as yellows screens, muddy splotches in the middle of screens, loose creeky backs, warped backs and excessive lag/stutter.
These are not "normal" for this tablet but represent what may be a bad run of tablets that made it out of the barn. If you are experiencing the issues suffered by the OP, I suggest you seek a replacement unit. If you have observed similar performance from other tabs in the same store that would make sense as they are likely from the same faulty production run.
When operating normally, white should be white on the Tab S. For myself and the large majority in the poll, this is the case. I have also not read any reviews by professionals mentioning this discoloration and believe me, if CNET or THEVERGE had something to rag on the Tab S about they would have.
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hasenbein1966 said:
These devices are overrated.
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The average rating by actual owners of the Tab S 10.5 bronze at BestBuy is 4.8 out of 5 stars with 53 reviews.
The average rating by actual owners of the Tab S 10.5 white at BestBuy is 4.9 out of 5 stars with 36 reviews.
You will see very little if any mention of an issue with yellow or green discoloration. I'm sure you are seeing what you are seeing but the problem does not appear widespread.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...&id=pcat17071&iht=y&cp=1&nrp=15&st=Tab+s+10.5
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I just took a picture of a webpage with a white background on my 10.5 and sent it to my laptop which has software that measures colors.
The website background from my Tab S 10.5 measured at 255:255:255. That is pure white. This was a photo and not merely a screen shot.
Saw the 10.5 inch and 8.4 inch models together on display in a shop. The 8.4 inch version also had slightly yellow tinted whites when looked at directly, not as bad as I was expecting though. The 10.5 inch model had no yellow tinted whites at all, when looked at directly or tilted.
Mine has pinkish tint at the top visible when everything is white especialy when reading wikipedia
Vertron said:
Saw the 10.5 inch and 8.4 inch models together on display in a shop. The 8.4 inch version also had slightly yellow tinted whites when looked at directly, not as bad as I was expecting though. The 10.5 inch model had no yellow tinted whites at all, when looked at directly or tilted.
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so when i switch screen mode to amoled basic, my screen have yellow tint (like warm color) and a little washed out color, is it normal or just my unit?
because when i switch screen mode to amoled cinema, everything looks saturated which is i think okay...
Armpowered said:
The screen on my 8.4in Tab S is bugging me, is it just me?
With all "super enhanced" colour settings set to plain and boring colour, I keep noticing a slight green tint in the central area of screen when viewed square-on, it's very subtle and seems more obvious with text on the screen, e.g. the Tapatalk forum listings. Also when viewed from an angle the display takes on a slight blue tint, despite reviews saying how good the angles are, it seems worse than the LG G Pad.
Is this just a feature of AMOLED displays or could it be a faulty unit (how?)?
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At what angle are you looking at it.???
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so when i switch screen mode to amoled basic, my screen have yellow tint (like warm color) and a little washed out color, is it normal or just my unit?
because when i switch screen mode to amoled cinema, everything looks saturated which is i think okay...
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Yes the Basic profile is meant to be that way its not the screen problem being discussed here, if you wanted an accurate image then Basic is the closest of all the profiles. If Basic looks washed out to you then your used to looking at an oversaturate screen, if you were used to looking at calibrated screens then all three profiles would look over saturated.
I had the 8.4 and just returned it. I also had the greenish-blue tint when the screen was even just slightly tilted. More noticeable indoors with brightness set to below 40%. If I had the tablet flat on the table and walked across the room, I could see it too - screen only looked good if looking at it directly in front of you. As others have said, I think it's probably due to some coating on the screen, which explains why it would be more noticeable with the screen brightness set lower.
I've checked out a few display models at stores, they all basically look the same, though some were slightly worse than others. That being said, the 10.5" ones I saw don't seem to have this problem... if they do, it's definitely not as noticeable. Not sure if it's just an optical illusion or what, but the 10.5's look OK. I'm going to go buy the 10.5 one today, mainly for the size. I'll post again if there are any tints on the screen.
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I had the 8.4 and just returned it. I also had the greenish-blue tint when the screen was even just slightly tilted. More noticeable indoors with brightness set to below 40%. If I had the tablet flat on the table and walked across the room, I could see it too - screen only looked good if looking at it directly in front of you. As others have said, I think it's probably due to some coating on the screen, which explains why it would be more noticeable with the screen brightness set lower.
I've checked out a few display models at stores, they all basically look the same, though some were slightly worse than others. That being said, the 10.5" ones I saw don't seem to have this problem... if they do, it's definitely not as noticeable. Not sure if it's just an optical illusion or what, but the 10.5's look OK. I'm going to go buy the 10.5 one today, mainly for the size. I'll post again if there are any tints on the screen.
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The problem was a green tint in the center when looked at head on not at an angle, seeing shifts in color when tilted is normal for this tablet. I would have kept yours if it was fine straight on.
My 10.5 had greenish yellow tint when looked at head on exactly the same as the op.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/normal-screen-faulty-t2822471
I was gonna return for the 10.5" anyways, the screen tint wasn't part of that decision, but I certainly won't miss it, heh.
Mine it is extremelly yellow! I hate this bug... It happends to me every 10 minutes, i need to restart every time to revert this.
I've had 2 Oneplus 3's now, and am now in the process of sending the second unit back for a replacement.
This because the screen wasn't functioning properly, there was lightbleed on both and the screen had a green tint on one side and a red tint on the other side.
Has anyone else experienced issues like this? Is it a known problem, big or small? Or am I just in really bad luck by recieving a bad screen 2 times in a row.
No issue here. Wish the screen was brighter but at least its the same as my g4
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I've had 2 Oneplus 3's now, and am now in the process of sending the second unit back for a replacement.
This because the screen wasn't functioning properly, there was lightbleed on both and the screen had a green tint on one side and a red tint on the other side.
Has anyone else experienced issues like this? Is it a known problem, big or small? Or am I just in really bad luck by recieving a bad screen 2 times in a row.
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The problems you're describing are physically impossible on a Super AMOLED display... and to say that it has happened to both OP3s you received is just as absurd. The pre-applied screen protector is pretty crappy, but I mean c'mon... Are you one of those guys who returns things with the smallest imperfections, or perceived imperfections in this case?
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Do you have any picture of the defect. So far, your issue is uncommon one for OnePlus 3.
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The problems you're describing are physically impossible on a Super AMOLED display... and to say that it has happened to both OP3s you received is just as absurd. The pre-applied screen protector is pretty crappy, but I mean c'mon... Are you one of those guys who returns things with the smallest imperfections, or perceived imperfections in this case?
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Woah there, I have no idea how it is possible to have the problems I have, I know that with lcd sometimes the glue causes the device to be lit unevenly, don't know if that could be the case, but it seemed a little off. I tested this using this video on full brightness: https://youtu.be/vu0mQa2EpS4
While going from. Grey to black, the pixels should all turn of at the same time, or at least, that's how I think it should be on amoled. But this wasn't the case on both devices.
As for the different tint problem, that does bother me a lot more, reading Web with a changing color if you read from left to right isn't that good for the eyes or at least It bothered me.
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Do you have any picture of the defect. So far, your issue is uncommon one for OnePlus 3.
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Here are some pictures, it's quite difficult to recreate on camera like I see them but this gives a general idea of what my issues were with the first device. The first being the screen tint, on the left of the screen it seems to be more red and on the right more green, while this is a Grey background at about 50% brightness. The second is how the screen is unevenly lit while on a solid Grey low brightness background.
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Here are some pictures, it's quite difficult to recreate on camera like I see them but this gives a general idea of what my issues were with the first device. The first being the screen tint, on the left of the screen it seems to be more red and on the right more green, while this is a Grey background at about 50% brightness. The second is how the screen is unevenly lit while on a solid Grey low brightness background.
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I just watched that LCD test video and firstly my eyes hurt from the bright white light secondly I am quite picky and having come from the g4 which I thought had a great screen (few bleed issues though) I am quite happy. I couldn't see anything at all on my unit like you have so maybe it's device specific?
I have noticed this weird thing though and it's when I use MX player pro to watch films. I have been watching the dark night for like the 20th time on th op3 but do notice the skin tones look a little warm and when i increase brightness it gets worst. I think this is a combination of the pentile display and the AMOLED screen with a lower resolution than we would like. I am sure I remember my galaxy note 3 and wife's s5 looking like this also but could be wrong.
Overall it is strange using g4 then using op3 it's hard to explain but they are just different not just LCD / AMOLED but the calibration also. Love the blacks though it's like the phone is off when the screen goes dark. Nice.
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I just watched that LCD test video and firstly my eyes hurt from the bright white light secondly I am quite picky and having come from the g4 which I thought had a great screen (few bleed issues though) I am quite happy. I couldn't see anything at all on my unit like you have so maybe it's device specific?
I have noticed this weird thing though and it's when I use MX player pro to watch films. I have been watching the dark night for like the 20th time on th op3 but do notice the skin tones look a little warm and when i increase brightness it gets worst. I think this is a combination of the pentile display and the AMOLED screen with a lower resolution than we would like. I am sure I remember my galaxy note 3 and wife's s5 looking like this also but could be wrong.
Overall it is strange using g4 then using op3 it's hard to explain but they are just different not just LCD / AMOLED but the calibration also. Love the blacks though it's like the phone is off when the screen goes dark. Nice.
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So the screen turned black fully at the same time, well there's a logo on screen, but apart from that all black?
I know what you mean by that, I think thats in all screens, not sure, but I had it in both screens but also the problems occurred on them too, maybe that's a feature, I at least won't mind at night when the screen is that low and a bit more warm toned. I saw it on a selfie I got on whatsapp, at night when I got it, I saw her face normal, but when I set the screen brighter, I also saw that the photo also had a background! which was invisible and dark on the lowest brightness.
no issues
Didn't see a logo. Must be blind
rickyx32 said:
The problems you're describing are physically impossible on a Super AMOLED display... and to say that it has happened to both OP3s you received is just as absurd. The pre-applied screen protector is pretty crappy, but I mean c'mon... Are you one of those guys who returns things with the smallest imperfections, or perceived imperfections in this case?
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Smallest imperfection? He uses the screen all the time and notices that all the time, how is that small imperfection? Also amoled screens are known for the issues he described. All screens have that issue. Just people like you are not good enough to notice it while others notice it easily.
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Didn't see a logo. Must be blind
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This logo, not that important, but YouTube shows it really need to turn that off sometime.