Yesterday I was doing some exploring, on foot, using Google Maps on my TP2. What I would do was check Google Maps, get a satellite lock, plan the next few minutes' walking, then press the power button to put it in "sleep" mode. A few minutes later I'd repeat the procedure - take the phone out, press the power button to wake it up, go back into Google Maps, etc.
The problem was that when I put the phone in sleep mode, Google Maps was the active application, in the foreground; but when waking up again, Google Maps had been pushed into the background, and the phone was displaying the TouchFlo home tab instead. That meant that every single time I did this I had to go into the task manager and bring Google Maps back to the foreground again.
Is there a way to get the phone to automatically bring up whichever application was running when it was switched into sleep mode and not default back to the home screen?
This is one of my biggest gripes about the Touch Flo.
It just get's in the way of so many things.
Does this happen only if you manually put it into sleep mode, or does it also happen if the screen goes dark on it's own?
This is my biggest gripe. I want to stay in the application I left when the phone went into sleep mode. The funny part is the application is running for a split second right before TF default back to the home screen. Massively irritating. I like TF and all but I want to start the app I was running right when I put the phone in sleep / suspend. It's BS.
So, this explains why the phone defaults back to the home screen when I am in the middle of a call. It is not just that the phone wants to always be on the homescreen, but that the Touch Flo specifically forces its way "in front" of anything else that is running.
That gives me even more of a reason to want to upgrade from the T-Mobile ROM that my phone came with. I like Touch Flo actually but this has become so irritating that I would happily give it up so I can call my voicemail and enter passwords/delete messages without having to open the phone five times per call...
pinhead said:
So, this explains why the phone defaults back to the home screen when I am in the middle of a call.
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That's starting to annoy me as well.
I listen to yourmuze.fm alot which is radio through the browser. Problem is, is none of the browsers work in the background. Like if I hit home or go to the app drawer the music stops until I bring the browser back up. My main problem is that I can't multitask and even though I lock the phone, the screen stays on. So thats a battery killer too. Is their any way to get this to work in the background?
FYI the other browsers do the same.
I find there are a number times when navigation is problematic on WP7, caused by a few design issues:
- there being a back button but no forward button
- apps always start from home page when loaded from the home screen
- IE relies on the hardware back button and you can lose your navigation history if you leave IE, go back in and try to navigate back.
I think most WP7 users will know what I'm talking about.
My question is - do people think the Mango update with multitasking will solve this? I can't see enough detail in the online demos to be sure, but I would hope that it does get around these issues.
I'm sure that with Mango's fast app switcher (the new tap-and-hold back button) you will have much more flexibility than today.
But, I'm not sure what you mean by "you lose your navigation history" in IE. Even if I back out of IE, when I go back in, tap the favorites icon, and flick to the History pivot, I still see all of the pages I visited in the list. Maybe I am doing something different, or else I am misunderstanding your problem.
i think he meant...
1: go browse using ie, and visit several pages by following links
2: press windows key to go back to homescreen
3: launch ie again (through its tile, not the back button)
4: history gone. you'll be back to the last page you were visiting, but that's it. if you press the back button, it'll take you out of ie and into the homescreen.
this annoys me as well.
Website A,
click link to B,
check emails,
return to IE (via back button),
on website B,
want to go back to A: not possible via back button
It is unintuitive to open favorites(!) then change to history only to go one site backwards.
Yep that's the scenario exactly.
I checked what Android does because it has a very similar setup of a hardware back button. However, they get it right and the solution is very simple.
On Android when you go back into the browser, the hardware back button takes you back through browser history until there is no more history. Then the next press takes you back in the application screen history. I only tried it quickly but it seems to solve the problem that WP7 exhibits.
I think the only foolproof option is like iOS where the back button is onscreen and part of the application. The downside is that it clutters up the display a lot. When I use an iPhone now the actual screen space for the application seems very small.
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- apps always start from home page when loaded from the home screen
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That's changing in Mango. Developers will be able to allow users to pin pages in their app to the home screen not just the app itself.
The example shown at MIX11 was that if we create a News app which has a world news page, a country specific news page and a financial page (for example); the user could then pin the financial page to the start screen.
There is no limit on the amount of tiles per app, so the user could chose to pin all three pages to their start screen. Clicking on any of these tiles would take them straight to the page of interest not the main page.
Of course, this requires app developers to implement the new tiles in their app (but it's not difficult).
Casey
That is interesting, although you're talking more about linking within an app, where sometimes the issue is more about remembering state i.e. reloading an app and it being back on the page you were on.
To be fair, support for this on iOS is patchy, some apps do it and some don't. And the MS guidelines specifically say that the app must restart from home when loaded from a tile. I wonder if this was in preparation for the multitasking features, although I will still like to be able to use a tile to launch an already-running (tombstoned) app and have it take me back to where I was when I left it. From what I've seen of Android, it does this.
Not sure what everyone is complaining about the back button and IE since it's actually pretty consistent with desktop browser experience. When you close your browser and open it up again, you don't get to press back.
digger1985 said:
Not sure what everyone is complaining about the back button and IE since it's actually pretty consistent with desktop browser experience. When you close your browser and open it up again, you don't get to press back.
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that's the point. in your phone you don't close your brower (by pressing back back until you're at the homescreen, you just press the middle button to pull up the home screen). in my desktop I can have 10 browers open, and still open my e-mail without disturbing my browers.
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that's the point. in your phone you don't close your brower (by pressing back back until you're at the homescreen, you just press the middle button to pull up the home screen). in my desktop I can have 10 browers open, and still open my e-mail without disturbing my browers.
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Do I remember correctly that tabbed browsing is coming with IE9/Mango, and said tabs will be in the multitasking screen? I guess it could very well start working more like you described?
We will see in 2 days hopefully.
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Do I remember correctly that tabbed browsing is coming with IE9/Mango, and said tabs will be in the multitasking screen? I guess it could very well start working more like you described?
We will see in 2 days hopefully.
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That's interesting actually if they do that I can see it helping. Proving that when returning to a browser page, you can still use the back button to work the browser rather than just jumping back to where you were before.
If they're gonna carry on with the back button doing special stuff in the browser, they need to implement the Android trick of the back button going back through browser history until the start, then going back through application screen history.
I have had my phone for about a week now and everything is great. The one gripe I have is that I can't seem to get to the browser menu at all when I use the stock browser. Every time it will load the home page and show the address bar for a split second and then disappear. I will touch all over the screen and will be unable to make reappear. Anyone have any suggestions it's really annoying.
Thanks
Flick down and it will show up.
Is anyone having Jelly Bean issues? I am having the following issues:
1) Marking Messages as Read. If I have an unread message and the Messaging app is open under the home screen, if I use the lock screen shortcuts to open Google Now, it marks the message as read and then opens Google Now. It never did this on ICS.
2) Home Button Issues. If the screen turns off and I hit the home button to turn it on, it goes directly to the home screen. On ICS, it would just go to the most recent app (I have mostly avoided this happening again by enabling S Voice, but there's got to be a solution). Also, when I hold down the home button to open the Recent Apps screen, it will sometimes go to the home screen, and then open Recent Apps. Also, sometimes there is a delay between when I close an app and when it shows up in the Recent Apps screen.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Your help would be much appreciated!
I'm running FreeGS3 with Ktoonz 10/28 kernel and the blue battery bubble icon (with mod file flashed first) and I have the following issues.
1) The LED isn't as bright when on the charger when the phone is on... the red and green are quite dim. No issues when the phone is off (believe this is directly related to the JB ROM itself.
2) After 7 hours on the charger the battery was charged to 98%, When I was running w/o either the kernel or battery morph no issues.
3) Something took away the boot animation as I have just a black screen after the Samsung Galaxy SIII screen until you see the home screen.
Thanks in advance for detailed answers
Home button
I also had the same issue with the home button since s voice was frozen, enabling s voice double tap seemed to be the only way to fix. Hopefully a way that does not require s voice is found soon.