Dmca problems - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/26/dmca-update-makes-new-phone-unlocking-illegal/
And so it passed that Congress didst layeth its blessing on the jailbreaking and rooting of all manner of devices; the hacking community saw the miracle and rejoiced. But that amendment to the DMCA two years ago was just a temporary exemption and the Electronic Frontier Foundation has been vigorously lobbying to get it reinstated. The Library of Congress has now done just that through a new three year extension, but with some serious caveats: After 90 days, unlocking of new phones will be verboten and all tablet mods will still be illegal. This differs from the 2010 decision which did allow unlocking, because the Librarian decided that a recent copyright ruling means fair use rules no longer apply to a handset's OS. It also said the exception isn't needed anymore because carrier rules regarding unlocking are now more liberal -- although the lawmaker may be confounding chicken with egg by that reasoning.
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So uh... What now? Can someone with more knowledge on this subject elaborate on what this means to our community?

My guess, no more "how to unlock" threads if we want to avoid a DMCA complaint. Forums for tablets on this site will stick to talk about stock and stock only.
Stock ICS on my S3

sly-tendencies said:
My guess, no more "how to unlock" threads if we want to avoid a DMCA complaint. Forums for tablets on this site will stick to talk about stock and stock only.
Stock ICS on my S3
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So this is limited to tablets only?
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sdlopez83 said:
So this is limited to tablets only?
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And unlocked phones. Of course, seeing as how they said tablet mods are already illegal, that might not change anything.
Stock ICS on my S3

So we are done Modding our devices
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sdlopez83 said:
So we are done Modding our devices
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Rooting and rom flashing is still allowed, but you can't unlock a phone network wise.
Stock ICS on my S3

Freaken Idiots
Since when does The Library of Congress have anything to do with this...
Instead of focusing on more important issue's.....
boggles my mind Unbelievable

JohnM109R said:
Since when does The Library of Congress have anything to do with this...
Instead of focusing on more important issue's.....
boggles my mind Unbelievable
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Because apple, and carriers benefit. They contribute to politicians and Campaigns and this breeds sway over decisions as we are seeing them. Bull****.
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When they say unlocking, meaning carrier or bootloader.
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this makes no sense, regardless if they mean carrier unlocking or rooting. a phone, for the last majority of users is subsidized by the carrier, a tablet isn't. why would you have more freedoms with a phone which is partially paid for by the carrier than a tablet which is paid for solely by the consumer?
and where is the line drawn between the two types of device?

sdlopez83 said:
When they say unlocking, meaning carrier or bootloader.
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It mean's you can't unlock the phone to use on another network without the original carriers consent.
This article breaks things down abit ...
http://myandroidchief.com/new-dmca-...ones-legal-starting-2013-but-not-for-tablets/

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Please read forum rules before posting
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Sorry Kenny
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[Sprint] PLEASE!!! start using [Sprint] [AT&T] etc. approriate tags in the titles.

[Sprint] PLEASE!!! start using [Sprint] [AT&T] etc. approriate tags in the titles.
If your question or comments in general are Sprint based, please use the [Sprint] tag in the title.
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TeamERA said:
If your question or comments in general are Sprint based, please use the [Sprint] tag in the title.
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these forums are going to get messy...
dtr145r said:
these forums are going to get messy...
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Yes and No, While i think having them combined will be best for all parties. As the requested topic we can make them easier to deviate new threads.
1SiK1500 said:
Yes and No, While i think having them combined will be best for all parties. As the requested topic we can make them easier to deviate new threads.
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I hope that is the case, if labled with the right tag, we will only need to focus on that when looking at topics. I for one want to focus on all Sprint related topics/questions first, and if I have time help the rest of the SGS3 owners. But Id like to be closer friends with the people that are on the same carrier as me... No offence
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Don't forget ...
Don't forget (Americans often do) that there's also Rogers, Bell, and Telus, not to mention a few more in Canada.
Rogers, Bell and Telus use the AT&T I747. I'm not sure about Virgin, Mobilicity, etc.
Peter
Addendum: I really should say that Rogers, Bell and Telus use the I747, which AT&T also uses. I really don't like saying it's an AT&T I747, because it's not.
Personally, I will try and use [I747] on all my posts.
Yeah I can see a lot of locked threads,alot of trolling,and alot of flame wars about which carrier is the best I hope there will be more then two mods in these threads
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Lets petition to get it back to the old way
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auau465121 said:
Yeah I can see a lot of locked threads,alot of trolling,and alot of flame wars about which carrier is the best I hope there will be more then two mods in these threads
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gtuansdiamm said:
Lets petition to get it back to the old way
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There's advantages to both ways. But I'm not sure that the average user base will be able to take advantage of this setup and NOT cause a cluster#$%@. Not to mention the tendency to repeat previously asked questions... with four times as many carriers.
RandomKing said:
There's advantages to both ways. But I'm not sure that the average user base will be able to take advantage of this setup and NOT cause a cluster#$%@. Not to mention the tendency to repeat previously asked questions... with four times as many carriers.
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Exactly, this could get bad fast, and I see even more MOD attention would be needed, idk, maybe we are wrong and this will all work out for the best. Id love to see it be as easy as possible to stay connected and informed (on Sprint related topics mostly). I already find it hard to concentrate, but that's a personal problem I guess
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Great, perfect tip man.
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This format is going to get ugly. I actually enjoy talking to my sprint colleagues and I rather click away on sprint related threads then having to filter through them.
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shook187 said:
This format is going to get ugly. I actually enjoy talking to my sprint colleagues and I rather click away on sprint related threads then having to filter through them?
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XDA is about hacking devices, not discussing carriers. Don't forget that.
Go to a carrier-related forum if you want that.
I, for one, see this as a good change. Speaking as an engineer/developer.
Already we have 2 Off-Topic threads discussing this change. Don't complain about off-topic threads when you post in them.
This is good for me, since I'm kinda sad that I'm leaving my OG Epic bretheren from sprint to head to Bid Red..
Now I can keep tabs on ya's
jnadke said:
XDA is about hacking devices, not discussing carriers. Don't forget that.
Go to a carrier-related forum if you want that.
I, for one, see this as a good change. Speaking as an engineer/developer.
Already we have 2 Off-Topic threads discussing this change. Don't complain about off-topic threads when you post in them.
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Not really a good change, a step in the right direction, yes. But I for one only want to see Sprint related general/off topic posts when I come into the SGS3 general forum. That's why I ask for the tags. I mean that is a system in its self that needs to be used here ( I would love to see that happen). I'm just saying that makes it so much easier when scanning, and when you don't want to have to subscribe to all the Sprint related topics just to keep up with what your trying to focus on is ridiculous if you ask me.
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MrTimz said:
Not really a good change, a step in the right direction, yes. But I for one only want to see Sprint related general/off topic posts when I come into the SGS3 general forum. That's why I ask for the tags. I mean that is a system in its self that needs to be used here ( I would love to see that happen). I'm just saying that makes it so much easier when scanning, and when you don't want to have to subscribe to all the Sprint related topics just to keep up with what your trying to focus on is ridiculous if you ask me.
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Agreed 100%
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Themes are a concern and should be tagged as well. Most themes use framework-res etc.. which contains xmls's etc...
MrTimz said:
I for one only want to see Sprint related general/off topic posts
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I think I found your problem.
Okay, so other than:
1. *****ing about poor coverage.
2. *****ing about LTE roll-out.
3. *****ing about bundled apps.
4. *****ing about insurance/TEP.
What else possibly belongs in the General section that's Sprint-specific?
XDA has an off-topic section. Go there if you want to talk about whatever. It's about time these forums get back to device/development. This place has been taken over by whiny 14 year olds for too long.
And get off my lawn!
jnadke said:
I think I found your problem.
Okay, so other than:
1. *****ing about poor coverage.
2. *****ing about LTE roll-out.
3. *****ing about bundled apps.
4. *****ing about insurance/TEP.
What else possibly belongs in the General section that's Sprint-specific?
XDA has an off-topic section. Go there if you want to talk about whatever. It's about time these forums get back to development. This place has been taken over by whiny 14 year olds for too long.
And get off my lawn!
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[SPRINT]
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TeamERA said:
If your question or comments in general are Sprint based, please use the [Sprint] tag in the title.
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Tho we wouldn't have to if we had separate forums. I know in the past there were several that would cross platforms from international version to US versions and that was great, but I think it's a bit confusing to do it like this and if you're going to label every thread with a carrier anyway, why not just have it's own forum??
It is what it is I guess.
Hey the other day I seen this phone at a Sprint store, some girl offered me a favor for a look at my SGS3 PB 32gb Sprint version, I said I didn't have it yet, but soon I will be able to flash it for that favor you offered
Cool [Sprint] story right?
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[DISCUSSION] iOS on XDA

Seeing as this is a discussion about XDA and not about general phones, I thought this is the most appropriate place to put this thread. I have also checked for similar threads but have found nothing.
If a mod thinks otherwise I am sorry for posting in the wrong place.
I have created this thread as you can probably tell, to ask why there is no iOS in the listed platforms on XDA.
With iOS on XDA the site itself will recieve: - A much much larger audience
- More users
So why not include it.
This is not a request even though it may seem like it. There is obviously a reason as to why there is no iOS and I simply want to root it out. Even if it only takes one or two posts and the thread has to be moved around by mods for posting in the incorrect place.
Please contribute to the thread. I have also created a poll. If you do not have time to leave a comment, use the poll.
Anything relating to iOS can be found on XDA's sister site, forum.iphone-developers.com. The reason they don't put that section on this site is because it would inevitably cause too many flame wars between iOS fanboys and Android fanboys.
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"Knowledge is power" = Read, Read, Read!
Why people cannot just accept ios as simplicicty and android as power I just do not know.
I wouldn't know because I've never owned an apple product. I've only ever used them whilst trying to sort problems out for my family & friends who own them.
I just simply couldn't own one because I mainly customize my phone through widgets, launchers etc. There isn't the ability to do that from iOS.
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baddaman54 said:
Why people cannot just accept ios as simplicicty and android as power I just do not know.
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I think they do, just not in the tone that you mean. Discussions of this sort invariably take on a nasty tone due to the scorched earth policy decided upon by one of the involved companies.
On a different note, would you please consider reducing the font size you are using? Honestly, it comes across in exactly the same manner as all caps does by "yelling". I do not believe you mean it that way, but it does come across that way in effect. Thank you.
mf2112 said:
I think they do, just not in the tone that you mean. Discussions of this sort invariably take on a nasty tone due to the scorched earth policy decided upon by one of the involved companies.
On a different note, would you please consider reducing the font size you are using? Honestly, it comes across in exactly the same manner as all caps does by "yelling". I do not believe you mean it that way, but it does come across that way in effect. Thank you.
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Thanks for letting me know about the font. I just thought it was clearer for people to read. :laugh: Now I see why people write in this font so much.
Well at least someone said it.
i have used iphone 3g and 4s but for me iphone is a crap but there are lots of stuffs/mods that you can do with an android phone but you cant do it in an iphone
That is true. I've always loved android for that. But because so many hipsters get iphone. The support is through the roof. Jailbreak will permit anything.
I will literally troll the sister forums to the point it blows up.
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KidCarter93 said:
Anything relating to iOS can be found on XDA's sister site, forum.iphone-developers.com. The reason they don't put that section on this site is because it would inevitably cause too many flame wars between iOS fanboys and Android fanboys.
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"Knowledge is power" = Read, Read, Read!
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I agree with this, also i belive that iOS has such a large following it needs it's own dedicated forum, as give it a section under platforms would not be enough.
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I will literally troll the sister forums to the point it blows up.
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:laugh:
Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feeling. iOS and Android, both are great and should be here, someone agrees or not, doesn't really matter.
ithehappy said:
Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feeling. iOS and Android, both are great and should be here, someone agrees or not, doesn't really matter.
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What about iPhone developers? They have a site. And the differences can lead to mayhem.
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ithehappy said:
Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feelings.
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You really need to look around more. This sight covers Android, WM as well as WP. IOS has its site.
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zelendel said:
You really need to look around more. This sight covers Android, WM as well as WP. IOS has its site.
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If this was captivate forum u could close this jk
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leezrd said:
If this was captivate forum u could close this jk
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He can still close this
And I'm not joking...
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iOS has its own forum unlike android or any other operating system. Why not use that
go on some <No idea>iOS forum.. :laugh:
Ios on xda... let's not mess with that pandora's box...
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gljiva said:
go on some gayiOS forum.. :laugh:
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Think before typing or don't type at all :laugh:

T-Mobile Note 2 gets 4G via update WHAT,!! (USA)

Wtf why cant we we have updates like this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-activating-ota-amaze-4g-gets-security-fixes/
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E_Goldstein said:
Wtf why cant we we have updates like this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-activating-ota-amaze-4g-gets-security-fixes/
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The N7100 doesn't have LTE hardware in it. The T889 T-Mobile variant clearly does. You cannot add capabilities to a device that it doesn't have the hardware for.
Was more of an annoyed post not physically why.
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FloatingFatMan said:
The N7100 doesn't have LTE hardware in it. The T889 T-Mobile variant clearly does. You cannot add capabilities to a device that it doesn't have the hardware for.
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That is incorrect.
See here for more information:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support
ungraph said:
That is incorrect.
See here for more information:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support
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The US models are not the N7100. I quite clearly said the N7100.
Im chilled just sick of all these mods that get on there high horse when there is far more duplicate posts to be seen than bring up a post that hadnt been touched for a few days. Lol.
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Cleaned.
Right, cleaned this thread of all the bad language and arguments.
I'd like to take this opportunity to remind members that XDA is a place for sharing, learning and last, but not least helping people develop, theme and improve their devices, not for silly little arguments in public forums - we're part of the same team, remember that.
In regards to people trying to help enforce the rules of xda, as much as we appreciate this, it's better if you let us deal with it, and help us by reporting any posts which violate the rules.
Some of the language in these posts have no place in XDA, what you might not find offensive, some people do. So lets do our best to not include any profane or foul language, thank you.
Anymore problems, use the right channels (the report feature).
Kind regards,
Lady Android
@Lady Android
Don't see why you didn't just close this thread. Your caring and relaxed attitude seems out of sync with other mods who feel that XDA is not for noobs, and especially not for noobs to bloat with their garbage, posted without reading the rules and usually through boredom or laziness.
If you want people to use the report feature; might I suggest the xda app is updated to include a report button.
Thank you for your time.
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totally off subject
ok i need help has anyone here downloaded rootbox rom there galaxy note 2
princesspeach90 said:
ok i need help has anyone here downloaded rootbox rom there galaxy note 2
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You would be better off starting a new thread for your question. It's not likely to get much attention in a totally unrelated thread.
Check GTN7100 IN THE INTERNET IF HAS LTE in it.
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EmptyArea said:
@Lady Android
Don't see why you didn't just close this thread. Your caring and relaxed attitude seems out of sync with other mods who feel that XDA is not for noobs...
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Who said XDA was not for noobs? XDA is a sharing information comunity for everybody and to prove it there is a guide just for Noobs.
XDA official Noob guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450
The line I've see written by many mods is:
It's xda-developers.com not xda-noobs
And if that's guide is worth it's salt then it will strongly discourage threads like this one:
Information that already exists
Question in wrong thread
Lack of searching, reading and understanding, just more bloat for people to sift through to find the juicy cream.
Anyway this has been thoroughly off-topic we should probably let this thread die now.
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Evil1art needs your help

His name is very well known to us all as one of the BEST developers around. Not taking from other devs...but this guy is magic.
It seems XDA has pulled his RT status over a minor infraction....and now he cant post roms, updates, etc.
A petition was started on S4 forums. Go over there and say ur piece. We cant loose this guy.
Im typing this post with NO influence from anyone. I just want to help a guy out that gives us awesome roms, themes, tweaks, etc FOR FREE!!
So head over there now
Go S4 General topic
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PM a local moderator and let them know why evil1art should be a recognized developer!
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Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44388175
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Can't you post ROM's and updates as a senior member?
Go to the link
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Just do as Evil says, follow his social stuff. Seems like there was enough bad blood there that he doesn't even want to be here on XDA anymore.
What was he accused of? Venom explained that he must have done things multiple times. What was he accused of?
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fatboy547 said:
What was he accused of? Venom explained that he must have done things multiple times. What was he accused of?
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From wut I read in the thread a dude told Evil that if he didn't apply the mods he wanted into the rom that he wouldn't donate to Evil. Evil told him hes not his rom whore and hopes he chokes. Told him he didn't need his donation
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I don't really think its any of our places to pry into that. At least not publicly.... I couldn't see any good coming out of it as too many people would be inclined to take sides and start flaming.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I don't really think its any of our places to pry into that. At least not publicly.... I couldn't see any good coming out of it as too many people would be inclined to take sides and start flaming.
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+1
No offense, but if he wanted to be named a Dev he would do what's required for him to do to get the name.
If he chooses not to then so be it, threads like this aren't needed.
Powered by the SGSIII
Your right. I saw the post. I guess im gonna stay out of it.
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Please spend 2 seconds to google Recognized Developer XDA. It requires the developer to fill out the application and agree to the Code of Conduct. Petitioning the moderators will have a negative result on the decision of the Developer Committee that reviews the application.
Code of Conduct terms are also required for RT and RC status. All RTs and RCs were informed that if they violate the rules and CoC they will lose their title for a defined period. We have rules here for a reason and expect all title holders to set an example of how to follow those rules. Also members are warned before an infraction occurs and are well aware of the rules they are breaking. If they say otherwise they are not stating the whole truth. Just like the RT/RC/RD's Moderators are also bound by these rules and Code of Conduct. Violations of that result in moderators being removed from their position. The rules are there for a reason, to keep some semblance of order on a site with over 5 million members.
Thanks you
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FCC Ban on phone unlocking lifted

http://cnet.co/1hROqBC
I know that you are generally not allowed to post links outside of xda developers but i felt that this was something to maybe boost the morale of those phones who seem to lack the capabilities of the general consumer to unlock his phone.
Mods delete this if you feel like you need to .-.
424aca said:
http://cnet.co/1hROqBC
I know that you are generally not allowed to post links outside of xda developers but i felt that this was something to maybe boost the morale of those phones who seem to lack the capabilities of the general consumer to unlock his phone.
Mods delete this if you feel like you need to .-.
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Well this is good for Sim unlocking. Nothing for boot loader though.
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