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Hi there,
I've been using Froyo 2.2 for some time but had some SD Card issues (Unexpected SD Card removal) and decided to check if flashing a new ROM will do any good. I've installed Cyanogen Mod 7 but after using it for half a day I wanted stock Sense back so flashed AuraxTSense v8.3. It looks nice, works quite fast at the beginning (and not knowing why it becomes slower after some time - observed during mass sms deletion) but boots ~7 mins - that's way tooooo long. Which one should I try next? Or maybe there is something wrong I've done while flashing? Wiped everything but dalvik before flashing.
LeeDroid's i believe is the best sense rom.
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
Boots 7 MINS?
For the first time or always?
Because if you install anew ROM, it will take some time to rebulid the cache and get ready, so 7 mins at the first boot is normal.
But if it boots 7 mins always, you've done something wrong.
Also LeeDroid is fast. Boots up very quickly - at least for me it did.
Indeed it boots slower than Leedroid, but not 7 minutes. Both are good ROMs, but the current (and some of the previous) version of ROM has some memory leaks reported from some users including me. I switched to Aura in hope to find remedy for this, and been good so far.
Also both have issues with the Internet app, googling freezes the browser and it force closes itself after a minute.
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yeah, it was first boot, other took something like 3-4 minutes, and that's still too long :/
what if my Desire is S-On even if I have rooted it with Unrevoked? also, Hboot is 0.93. does it make any difference when trying to flash different roms?
EDIT:
ok, trying to flash LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD, will see how long will it take.
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16 mins of first boot, keep fingers crossed for my problems with unexpected SD removal
I've flashed LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD for the second time and there's no A2SD actually!! or I'am so tired that I can't find settings to force apps to install in SD. all apps install in internal storage and only some can be moved to SD... sooooooo annoying, it's 3:50 am here and I am so fuc*ing tired but have to have phone fully working today :/ aaaaargh!!!!
ReflexTSense HD is pretty nice and fast
got it on SD too so I'll probably try it now as AuraxTSense had A2SD brilliantly working.
How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Apps2sd is working perfect in leedroid. Your reading is what fails.
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with regard to first boot im always pleasantly surprised with AOSP roms esp Oxygen and Gingervillain ...they boot very fast and have gprs configured and working from the very beginning !
GV booted really fast for me.
stability is another issue
oops sorry - i read the title of the thread properly now....you meant sense roms....please ignore
leedroid roms do not take too long to boot. ap2sd feature work 100 percent..i guess the no ap2sd rom would boot up faster than the one with.
starburst is the best so far av got 700mb internal memory and rom is super fast
ok guys, it was my mistake (or rather lack of knowledge), so I'm coming back to LeeDroid. but will try No-A2SD first because I think those SD Card issues are not gone so moving Dalvik to SD would be risky.
i know this question has been asked many a tyms ,....but still i want to start using 1 stable rom for a long tym.
..i jus want to know the most stable desire froyo or gingerbread rom with sence or without and how to get maximum space in my phone using d2sd or the other ways ...m pretty much a nube.. so please ..tel me... which when why and how...
...it wl be greatly appreciated......
.. thanks in advance..
insertcoin 2.0.1 hd rom, very stable, been running it since it was released without a single problem.
easy to setup your sdcard for it.
use mini tool partition wizard
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
large fat32 partition using all your space bar 1.4gb
1gb primary ext3 partition
300mb primary ext3 partition
100mb linux swap partition
Then flash your rom
simples
thanks mate..!!!
Tried to reply to your pm but its not working for some reason..
but heres what i was trying to send..
if you have set it up as stated and it has .94gb of internal memory then its already working fine..
The scripts are already within the rom and it sets up the data2ext on the first boot.
if you want more internal memory than that you need to make a bigger 1st ext partition than 1gb to start with, but its not recommended, and 1gb should be more than enough for app storage, i have like 300 apps and still 300mb free space.
All apps installed are sutomatically installed on the ext partition from first boot
I would recommend Redux as your ROM.
It is fast, stable and I have not had a single issue with it.
All of the info you need on App2SD+ is available through this webiste, but you are going to have to read a fair amount of information (some conflicting) to work out what is best for you.
I would watch the video tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Always do a Nandroid backup (boot from recovery, backup) before flashing, especially between different ROMs (I even do it between releases of Redux just to be safe).
Cheers
If you haven't chosen already you should consider going with an RCMixHD rom or perhaps SupeROM HD
There are no best ROM for Desire.
Every ROM has its limitation and good side.
Try them one by one and decide. I know this will take longer but this is the best way.
Info:
I am using InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2Ext and have been using InsertCoin since it was still called Baadnewz 1.3.
Before that, I have been using LeeDroids, RCmixHD, RCs Z, DeFrost, and one of the MIUI (I don't like MIUI)...InsertCoin is the best for me after trying those ROMs.
Same for me here, InsertCoin is very fast (try Data++), stable and reliable. I've been using it for months now after trying out over a dozen roms.....
But as already stated, there is no such thing as a 'best' rom. Everybody has a different taste, invest some time an find your favorite.
RCMixHD gets my vote
i think RcMixHD is the best Rom.
I use it since 2MOnth and had no Problems until now.
aaa said:
There are no best ROM for Desire.
Every ROM has its limitation and good side.
Try them one by one and decide. I know this will take longer but this is the best way.
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That's the only truth
Try many and give yourself what you like
For me, Oxygen is the best 1
As a newbie I've tried a few out, and just put leedroid 2.4 on and will hopefully be sticking with it.
I was just after more space really (and improved battery would be a bonus). I tried StarBurst as it seemed the best for space and it was great for a couple of days, but then it rebooted randomly and just about everything I tried to run FC'd. As far as I could tell it was something to do with Data2SD not being stable enough and due to my limited skills I had to abandon it.
To sum up, as a newbie I found I was best off sticking with the tried and tested ones that use A2SD as they're more stable. Also tried Teppics which was good until I started playing with things I didn't understand (Kernels) and broke it!
Just my 2p worth as a beginner!
Miui 1.4.1 for the moment the best rom out there
After i rooted i have tried many roms
but after a more then a half year with leedroids rom without any problem i would suggest it.
It has decent speed is very stable and sensebased if you prefer it
Try some roms and see which is the best for you.
If you make a nandroid backup you can switch very fast back
First time flashing a rom. Went for CM7. Was surprised how poorely packaged up stock android is. Things such as the dialer, calender, alarm etc. on stock look half complete, with very lacklustre UI's. Rather than spend hours looking for and downloading part decent alternatives, I just resorted to flashing a sense rom on it again. I think for speed, stock has the upper hand, but it seems faster primary because it's so lightweight.
Well it depends... I like the sense features but I like minimal design too. After putting the pros and cons together my opinion is that the sense ROMs are more complete for users like me. I am very sensible when it comes to design and I like everything to have the same design everwhere all over the OS. Only HTC does this and that is a winner for me. even if the closest thing to minimal is the slate theme... Nice looking though.
When it comes to speed there is no comparison between CM7 and any sense ROM. CM7 beats the Sh.. out of sense ROMS but I can live without that ultimate speed.
I have tried to like CM7 but I just end up going back to Sense ROMs. Now with InsertCoin CM7 + GingerBread + Sense 3.0 goodies, I don't see myself changing any time soon. The ROM is fast responsive and relatively quite bug free.
I agree I tried Ginger Villain and CM7 used them both for about 3 days and yeah the speed is blazing and the UI does very well at delivering a smooth stable experience, but soon afterwards i found my self missing that Sense touch, widgets, how hTC sense links your facebook contacts, the hTC mail widget, specific things like those found me flashing back to my beloved AuraxTSense. Right now the GB Sense 2.1 ROMS are IMO up right up there in terms of speed.
and what about mix of ginger sense? with sense 3.0?
what do you think of those ROM.s?
i flashed a couple of different 2.1 sense roms and love them, but i can't get them to work (can't install apps, and asking in the official threads gets you being called a moron)
What error/issues are you getting?
neoghio said:
What error/issues are you getting?
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aaawww, thanks...but i've been trying for 2 nights now and my brain is fried...i'm pretty sure i've given up
i've only ever used Cyanogen with S2E, with an sd-ext via Rom Manager, i'm S-On, rooted via Unrevoked, and after backing up and trying new roms and wiping and restoring, i realised when they say "CM7" they don't meant CyanogenMod7, they mean hboot (but i did laugh at myself!)
so yeah, i may try again in a couple of weeks
n7of9 said:
aaawww, thanks...but i've been trying for 2 nights now and my brain is fried...i'm pretty sure i've given up
i've only ever used Cyanogen with S2E, with an sd-ext via Rom Manager, i'm S-On, rooted via Unrevoked, and after backing up and trying new roms and wiping and restoring, i realised when they say "CM7" they don't meant CyanogenMod7, they mean hboot (but i did laugh at myself!)
so yeah, i may try again in a couple of weeks
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Download the A2SD+ version, that should work fine for you.
neoghio said:
Download the A2SD+ version, that should work fine for you.
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ok, thanks, i'll try again on the weekend...do i just use the terminal emulator instructions to move cache and dalvik to make more space for apps?
actually, that was one of the problems...market was trying to autoinstall and space was getting full so i couldn't install terminal emulator
If I am not mistaken A2SD+ installs the dalvik and all your applications automatically on the EXT partition.
I may be wrong as I am not using the A2SD+ version, I am on the CM7 Hboot version.
I like Sense, it's well designed, packs good features and all, but once i tried the speed of aosp roms i can't really go back . Customizing a bare aosp looking rom can be fun and challenging also, and i must say i quite enjoy that
vnvman said:
I like Sense, it's well designed, packs good features and all, but once i tried the speed of aosp roms i can't really go back . Customizing a bare aosp looking rom can be fun and challenging also, and i must say i quite enjoy that
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I agree with you that cutomisation can be fun... but it can also be very very time consuming. Sense provides most of what you need in one neat package. Stock android just seems half done. Simple things like the interface for the alarm clock, the dialler etc. really bring down the overall look and feel of stock.
Now I'm running sense with ADW gingerbread skin. Feel like I got best of both worlds.
neoghio said:
If I am not mistaken A2SD+ installs the dalvik and all your applications automatically on the EXT partition.
I may be wrong as I am not using the A2SD+ version, I am on the CM7 Hboot version.
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i think this worked i can't downloading from market (asking for help in official thread), but i was able to dropbox a titanium apk to install essential apps...i've had it for a couple of hours and it all seems to be working ok
i can't believe all the messing about i did with the wrong version!!
Help,
All,
I just bought HTC desire official froyo and rooted it. I want to use ROM such as CM7 or MIUI or other. can i just flash the zip. or need to upgrade kernel, radio, do nandroid back up and bla bla bla, what should i do step by step. i felt like i've lost in tracking this forum. (lazy actually)
I hope there will be some nice guy helping me.
Sorry, i just a newbie..
My desire :
froyo
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT - 0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Radio - 5.09.05.30_2
Clockwork Mod Recovery v2.5.0.7
kernel 2.6.32.15-gd96f2c0
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coverall said:
I just bought HTC desire official froyo and rooted it...what should i do step by step.
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i can help with Cyan7
do a NAND backup just in case you don't like the ROM (trust me, sometimes you just want Sense back)
the ROM threads will tell you if you need to flash any extras, or sometimes you can flash them if you are having problems with something, but this can be done after the ROM flash...i did install the GAPPS after CM7
-backup the entire contents of you SD card to pc
-get Rom Manager from the market and create an ext-partition
-copy card contents back to SD card
-install Titanium Backup from market and periodically create backups...this will help to restore your apps and app data after flashing new ROMS
-NAND backup
-flash ROM
-get S2E from market, this will move your cache/dalvik/apps to SD
-in CM7, make sure you select to install apps to INTERNAL because S2E makes the phone think the ext partition is internal memory
(i think that's it, from memory)
coverall said:
All,
I just bought HTC desire official froyo and rooted it. I want to use ROM such as CM7 or MIUI or other. can i just flash the zip. or need to upgrade kernel, radio, do nandroid back up and bla bla bla, what should i do step by step. i felt like i've lost in tracking this forum. (lazy actually)
I hope there will be some nice guy helping me.
Sorry, i just a newbie..
My desire :
froyo
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT - 0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Radio - 5.09.05.30_2
Clockwork Mod Recovery v2.5.0.7
kernel 2.6.32.15-gd96f2c0
[email protected] #1
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Definitely do a nandroid backup.
I CM7 was the first ROM I flashed after hearing its reputation and to be honest yes it was blazingly fast and good but I missed the sense goodies and within a day I ended up restoring my backup of Sense.
n7of9, thats an odd issue you keep having with the market...
Did you factory wipe + wipe cache partition? SD Card formated with 1gb EXT and the rest fat32?
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n7of9, thats an odd issue you keep having with the market...
Did you factory wipe + wipe cache partition? SD Card formated with 1gb EXT and the rest fat32?
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both wipes, yes
ext, 512mb
so far i was looking at my app storage, which still have 100mb, but i just restored an app called Free Space and it tells me that my system space used is 97%...*sigh*
i will redo the ext partition (i wanted to avoid gparted because linux scares me)
but hey, yesterday i was installing "CM7" 2.1 sense roms because i thought it meant CyanogemMod (sshhh, don't tell anyone)
n7of9 said:
both wipes, yes
ext, 512mb
so far i was looking at my app storage, which still have 100mb, but i just restored an app called Free Space and it tells me that my system space used is 97%...*sigh*
i will redo the ext partition (i wanted to avoid gparted because linux scares me)
but hey, yesterday i was installing "CM7" 2.1 sense roms because i thought it meant CyanogemMod (sshhh, don't tell anyone)
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You don't need linux for gparted, you can use the live cd/usb and boot to it
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
Try to use a DeSensenized ROM like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789830
Hi
I'm after a stable ROM for my HTC Desire which supports EXT4 partitioned memory cards and the ability to have internal apps installed there. I'm not to worried if its running Froyo or Gingerbread just that its stable.
I'm currently running Runnymede AIO v4.0.3 but have found it really unstable with the following issues:
Random reboots and the phone switching off,
Doesn't always transfer bluetooth calls to my car speakers and sometimes just puts the call on speaker phone,
When I receive a call sometimes it only rings for a split second before becoming a missed call,
Whenever I recieve a call the caller can't hear me and vice versa for the first few seconds,
The camera is very buggy and the phone reboots when I sometimes look at the gallery,
Videos are in the wrong aspect ratio when I view them,
The phone is just very sluggish even with the processor overclocked,
Wifi doesn't connect sometimes until I switch it off and on again.
Try the new Runnymede Version 6.0.4.1. Works like a charm.
Cyanogenmod 7.1. Is very stable, never had any problems.
I agree with Aronoskarss. CM7 is so smooth and stable and after flashing INT2SD script it supports ext4 partition, so you don't have to worry about free space for apps.
P.S. ADW Launcher is included in CM7, but it's just awful so I recommend you GO Launcher EX which is free.
Thanks for the replies. I'm going to give Cyanogenmod 7.1. a go as I've had too bad an experience with Runnymede.
How do I installl INT2SD script is it an app? Also do need to install Google Apps if I go for Cyanogenmod 7.1 and also a different radio?
Zammo76 said:
Thanks for the replies. I'm going to give Cyanogenmod 7.1. a go as I've had too bad an experience with Runnymede.
How do I installl INT2SD script is it an app? Also do need to install Google Apps if I go for Cyanogenmod 7.1 and also a different radio?
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I had used Runnymede a time a ago and felt it quite stable although a bit slow and sluggy (may be because I were not using a high-speed SD card). Anyway I also recommend Cyanogenmod (you also should try WildMild CM3.1, it's a mod from Cyanogenmod and it's much more improved and better tweaked).
If you want INT2SD, first prepare a EXT4 partition on your card (use GPard Live CD to partition it if you have not), then flash the rom in Recovery, right after that, flash the INT2SD zip file (before reboot). Let the phone enter homescreen and settle down for 3-5 minutes, then reboot again. Now everything should work correctly.
Cyanogenmod comes with no Google Apps, so if you need it just flash the GoogleApps zip file (you can find it easily on Google) or you can use 3rd party apps (which is better IMO). And about radio, just use latest 5.17.05.23, search for it in Development section in this forum.
Ok thanks. I think I have nearly everything now, I have:
The Cyogenmod 7.1 ROM,
The latest GB Gapps,
The latest Radio.
But I can't seem to find a link to the INT2SD script.
Zammo76 said:
Ok thanks. I think I have nearly everything now, I have:
The Cyogenmod 7.1 ROM,
The latest GB Gapps,
The latest Radio.
But I can't seem to find a link to the INT2SD script.
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I believe this is what you're looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357257
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Got it now thanks, I was having trouble finding it on that page amongst all the links.
I see that links in INT2SD aren't working anymore so i uploaded files on my own and explained how to in other thread. Here you go <link>
6.0.4.1 AIO
+1 on this
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Ok I decided to go for CM7 but i'm having real issues trying to get it to run properly on my Desire.
Currently I have installed it by first flashing the ROM, then Gapps and finally Int2sd2.
However when I booted up my phone for the first time and titanium backup started installing all of my apps it ran out of space before it completed and now I keep getting loads of FC errors.
I've tried to work out how to use Int2sd2 to shift all of the internal apps over to my EXT4 partition but I can't work out how to do this?
Any help greatly appreciated.
inninga and
+1: Runnymede AIO Version 6.0.4.1. ( S-OFF, 4EXT Recovery Touch, CM7r2 HBOOT)
So, like a half of a year ago I've got my Desire, second hand. Now I didn't want to be stuck forever on Android 2.2 and old Sense, so I decided to root and install a newer rom. Rooting and S-OFF were succesful after a bit messing around, but it worked. So, I've tried a lot of roms, but just a few of them seemed to work, Usually the ones, I didn't need. Right now I'm on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom, but it sometimes has a problem with the microphone. Else than that, it works nicely stable, many times more stable than the 2.3.3 RUU from HTC. But don't really like the interface, I'm a huge fan of Sense.
Now I didn't get any Sense rom to work, all the way from the 2.1 Sense roms to the newest 4.1 rom (where the number is the Sense version). I only got some plain roms to work, which I've used a little time, but they don't really satisfy me.
So, the tech information: rooted with Revolutionary, so the recovery is the ClockworkMod. The phone is also S-OFF, runs on HBOOT 6.93.1002, and currently runs on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom. I've tried almost all roms with Sense, exept for some new ones (4.0+) since they still have a lot problems with things I need to have.
So, I hope somebody is able to help me.
Looking right now, I haven't tried the latest Cooldroid Revolution yet, so I'll try that right now.
Tell us a little about your sd-ext partition.
I'm 99% certain you didn't create EXT partition on SD card, or you didn't do it correctly.
Use 4ext recovery to partition your SD (create 1GB ext4 partition and nothing else, rest will be FAT32 where you store your media etc.)
Reason why Touchwiz 5 JB worked for you, is that it doesn't require EXT partition to boot, since you have to activate a2sd script manually using terminal.
And without a2sd you will run out of space rather quickly.
Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.
Scoutsassin said:
Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.
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Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.
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Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.
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oooh nice and simple!
Good, with the EXT 2 partition it all works now. Got RSK Satelite (whatever it's called) running, Thanks for the help everybody!