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[Q] Newby need entlightment from pros

Hello everyone,
I just got myself a new HTC Desire with Vodafone Branding.
HBOOT : 0.800
Software number: 1.19.161.5 (I believe this should be Android 2.1)
Kernel version : 2.6.29-b7e82785 (I guess this is still HTC original)
I wanna root my phone and if I guess that I can do further, I am also thinking of using another rom.
My main concern is that the internal memory can not fit any more apps and I still want to add more, after searching in the internet I found out that I need to root and/or to use other rom.
Second concern...I just wanna learn..
I have downloaded Unrevoked3 and the H-Boot USB driver.
From what I have read, I am all set for rooting (gonna do this tomorrow evening after work and after I have calmed down a bit, I am a bit nervous cause this is my first time ).
I have removed the HTCsync but still keeping the drivers.
I also know that I will need ClockworkMod. Make EXT2/3/4 partition with at least 512MB (I would like to make it 1gb) and optional SWAP (perhaps I will make it 256mb, do I really need SWAP?).
So, please teach me on :
1. Now about the rom, I need an Android 2.2 with optimum stability and speed, to tell you the fact, I don't even now which one and where to get it.
2. Beside the main rom, do I need also the camera and radio rom to get them running? again where to get them? How do I install them? The same way as installing the main rom (from HBOOT recovery)? Before or after installing the main rom?
3. How to make the back up of my current rom, setting, and apps? I don't have much apps yet but perhaps I would need the backup if something went wrong.
I still a whole bunch of questions but I guess those will do for now.
Please be kind and help me one this one pleaassssseeeeeeeee...
Anyway...thanks in advance.

Read in development.
Sent from my Evil Lair using Doomsday Device

1. This thread has all the rom's in it. It's all about personal taste but if you like sense i would recommend Leedroid to start with.
2. When you come form 2.1 you will need to upgrade your Radio, if you OTA upgrade to 2.2 before rooting you do not have to update your radio but you can. A link to the radio thread is also in the above link.
3.
Once you are rooted with unrevoked you can preform a nandroid form recovery or you can download Rom Manager from the market and backup via that.
If you just want to backup apps you can use titanium backup or you could sync your apps with appbrain and reinstall them.
About the ext partition, i think swap is not necessary and if you want a 1 gig partition use Gparted

Thank you very much for the answer.
I will look into those first.
If I found any trouble, I will ask you guys again.
Thank you again.

First, I wanna say thank you again.
I have read some review about the LeeDroid. It sounds very good.
I will pick LeeDroid as my first after market rom.
I will thus flash (.zip files are already downloaded in the PC) :
Leedroid 2.2e
Latest Radio ROM; 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.27
LeeDroid 2.2e Kernel Boot Fix (Just to be sure, because I don't how my desires proc can be OCed)
DSP Manager.
My last questions:
- Is there any particular order which rom I should flash first?
Example : LeeDroid - Radio - Kernel Fix - DSP manager
-Can I flash them all with only 1 reboot (flash everything and choose reboot only once in H-Boot recovery menu)? or Do I have to flash only one at a time, reboot, and flash the next one and reboot again?

I'm not sure about radio's.
But if you flash leedroid 2.2e you need to flash it and after it (without reboot) flash the bootfix kernel.
Addons and theme's should be flash after the first full boot.

that is the correct order
you must flash the rom first, reboot, then flash the rest all in one go. REMEBER the first reboot is important!!

Got it!
Radio (I need the radio rom cause my radio rom is old, belongs to original 2.1) , Leedroid main rom and Kernel Fix in one go, then 1st reboot.
And then the other addons in one go.
and of course reboot again.
Thanks a lot guys!

aaa said:
Got it!
Radio (I need the radio rom cause my radio rom is old, belongs to original 2.1) , Leedroid main rom and Kernel Fix in one go, then 1st reboot.
And then the other addons in one go.
and of course reboot again.
Thanks a lot guys!
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check here for improved gaming performance, you can download leedroid kernel with boot fix, SD speed fix and GPU driver patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825304
h3llb3nd4 why is it important to reboot after rom flash?

It needs to install the boot images for the Rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

lots of things came up to me this weekend, I am not able to flash my Desire.
Since I am doing this for the first time, I would like to have a quite time for myself alone, so that I am calm during the flashing just in case if something went wrong.
well...I will do it (I hope) on next friday evening...
I will write again the progress next week.
Untill now all I have done is the rooting via Unrevoked3, and installing the rom manager from android market. I haven'T even formatted the sd card.
Thanks again.

OK, Go to hell with quiteness.
I can not wait hehehehe just to anxious to start flashing.
and.....
I did it...it works...
Thank you

Flashing is not that hard...hehehehe...
I have played with LeeDroid and I have to say...This can do a lot more than the original.
Hmmm...I a fan of Sense although some say it slows down the phone.
I have tried the HTC HD ROM on my Desire, I like the new sense but too bad the camera still doesn't work. I have to go back to LeeDroid just because of the camera problem.

|OP|,
I joined this forum because I am a newbie just like you (before you got your Jedi-Flashing Wings).
I too have a HTC Desire running Android 2.2 (Kernel 2.6.32.15). I have exactly the same problem as you had - I've run out of room for apps on internal memory and the standard Froyo apps2sd thing can't shift anything else to the SD card.
I'm really interested to learn how your phone handles apps now. Does your phone think it has 1 gig of internal memory? Are you able to shift every app to the SD card? Did you have to give up your HTC apps and widgets?
I would really appreciate any feedback.
Cheers!

Yup...limited room for installing apps is my main or perhaps my only reason of flashing my desire with modified rom.
- About the 1GB thing, well I didn't do it since I wanna try the flashing procedure just as it is described in youtube desire rom flashing guide (not confident enough to do it all alone), and it is shown in youtube using only 512MB
But, I will try it later (planned on december after I finish my university assignment).
-Well, I have flashed and used it only for about a day or two, so I am still not 100% sure, but all the apps I have downloaded and installed are all going to the SDCard. I guess all of them will eventually go to the SDCard.
-HTC Apps and widgets? Everything is there, as far as I noticed until now.
Now, I am enjoying the DSP equalizer, apps to SDCard (16GB ), but still afraid of OCing.
SMS, WLAN, Camera, E-Mail, etc. seem to work smooth, no bugs found so far.
My Desire seems to run faster than with the original rom, but it is just my subjectiv comparison.

The phone won't 'see' your EXT partition but when you install apps the quoted storage will barely go down...I have a 1GB EXT3 partition on my SD card for when I use a custom ROM, its 16GB so I don't miss the space as I'm on a stock ROM at present and don't use many apps

EddyOS said:
The phone won't 'see' your EXT partition but when you install apps the quoted storage will barely go down...I have a 1GB EXT3 partition on my SD card for when I use a custom ROM, its 16GB so I don't miss the space as I'm on a stock ROM at present and don't use many apps
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If the storage are going down or used slowly, is it worth to have 1GB as EXT3 or just leave it be at 512MB?

Depends on the ammount of unneccessary apps you plan to install

EddyOS said:
Depends on the ammount of unneccessary apps you plan to install
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Hahahahahahaha....
You got that one right on the spot.
Most of my apps are games.
Games are not considered as necessary apps.
I will stick with 512MB

Thanks EddyOS and |OS|,
This sounds awesome! I've got 14 MB remaining on my internal memory and a long list of apps I still want to play with.
With this news I'm going to jump into the whole flashing/rooting thing (incidently why do both of these terms have sexual overtones?).
LeeDroid here I come!
|O2| did you use the Unrevoked root method? Could you possibly post the youtube link that you mentioned? I am, as you were, quite anxious about turning my beloved Desire into an expensive paperweight so any extra tips would be very appreciated. (I have heard that it is fairly simple and has a very low risk but I'm still a bit hesitant)
Thanks again! What a wonderfully helpful community this is!

[Q] Please help Newbie - Post may also help neebie's root and updating to AmonRa

Hi all,
Please can you help me with the end questions, a quick background of what i've done so far.
I have been a member of Modaco for a while and used to own a Orange San Francisco, first android phone. I learnt a bit with that i.e rooting and updating to Paul's modaco rom's, market apps etc.
I have since bought a HTC desire and joined XDA which is a (superb forum), I'm really happy with my desire its on O2 contact and is the white newer version.
I was really confused with regards to rooting as the bootloader was high 0.93 so couldnt use some methods but newer posts showed that it was as easy as downloading unrevoked. Again had some problems rooting, realised that HTC sync must be installed first and then removed otherwise unrevoked will not pick up your phone.
Unrevoked rooted and installed Clockwork recovery, I then read about Amron Ra which is apparently more stable than Clockwork when installing Rom's, some posts suggested installing Rom manager and using flash recovery option, then alternative flash option in Rom manager to install AmonRa. So I installed Rom Manager it installed a newer version of Clockwork but when I then went to install alternative flash this option was blanked and not available.
After reading again I learnt I could flash Amron ra with unrevoked 3.0, you must go to file and custom recovery then find Amron Ra the version i installed was
recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.0-CM.img, I think this is the latest?.
Unrevoked went through the process, but stopped (oh no i thought this is going to get bricked) luckily everything was ok, after reading again I learnt that once rooted if your using unrevoked again its best to factory reset, so I backed everything up using Clockwork and made my first nand backup, I also packed up my installed apk's.
After factory reset, unrevoked did its magic and walla Amron Ra installed.
Now for the next step where I have some questions, unlike the orange san francisco the htc desire has loads of roms, some with sense (which i dont really know what is exactly yet) some froyo again what is froyo?, and some miui and some non sense.
So to a neebie where do you begin?
1. I have read about partitioning your sd card ext 2, 3 and 4, are these needed to use specific Roms and which ext do you need as it is very confusing?, I like the miui rom (MIUI XJ D2EXT X-PART 1.2.11) again there are 3 downloads there which should I download?
2. If the ext are needed must you have all 4 ext on a card and if so how much do you allocate for each if you have an 8gb card for example I read somewhere that the ext effects speed how can this be?
3. What are kernels I seem to be reading up about them a lot but no one really explains what they do, are they needed when installing a new Rom and can you mix and match different kernels with roms?.
4. Why is updating the radio on Rom's so important?, I see new roms then radio files must these be flashed?.
5. What is a dalvik cache clean is it the same as factory reset?
6. If I install a miui rom, which I'm interested in to start will there be any difficulties in later installing other sense or non sense roms and how do I go about avoiding these problems?.
7. What is the latest and best Miui rom available at the moment is it MIUI XJ D2EXT X-PART 1.2.11
These are all the questions for now, any help would be greatly appreciated at the moment I have a 4gb class 2 SD card but will be getting a 8gb class 6 in the next day or so, I mostly use the phone for texting, internet and sat nav.
Thanks a lot guys in advance.
All the best
Mav

You can refer to my answers over on MoDaCo

Wow, you have made quite a novel here
Half of your questions are answered TBH in the forums, so you should serach next time.
Okay
1.Which ext do you need? It will be 3 or 4, but every ROM thread specifies what do you need for it.
2. Of course you need all ext partitions on the SD Card. Again, there are ROM threads which specifies the size of the partitions. But usually look slike this:
* A2SD - Fat + Ext3/4, 0.5-1.5GB recommended.
* D2WE - Fat + Ext3/4, 1-1.5GB recommended.
* D2EXT - Fat + Ext4 + Ext4 + Swap (fat+1GB+0.3GB+0.1GB)
Can differ tough.
3.About the Kernels.
Tou can mix, but AOSP ROM with AOSP Kernel, Sense with Sense kernel. It is a chance that it will work otherwise, but will be buggy or phone won't boot.
4.If the ROM has new RIL (Radio interface layer) preinstalled, it is recommended to use a newer radios. Altough 5.11 version should work on every ROM.
5. No it is not.
dalvik cache is a program cache area for the program dalvik. Dalvik is a java based virtual machine that is the bases for running your programs (the ones that have the .apk extension). In order to make access times faster (because there's not JIT (just in time) compiler installed by default), the dalvik-cache is the result of dalvik doing a optimization of the running program. Sounds confusing. It's similar to the prefetch files in Windows.
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6. No problems should be - just do a full wipe (factory reset, wipe data, cache & dalvik).
7. Yeah, that is the latest version I know of.
Hope youll find the answers good enough

Thanks guys,
Just a bit confusing I would post to the author of the rom but at present haven't got enough posts.
Just a further quick questions, what do they mean by swap? and also there are 3 files to download xj, au, and dev, why 3 files and which is the best.
thanks

XJ, AU and DEV are 3 different builds by different authors so you'd need to check them all out
Here's a link to the MIUI-Dev website that you might wanna look at. It's quite quiet but obviously all MIUI
http://www.miui-dev.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?16-HTC-Desire-GSM

So EddyOS, I read somewhere on the modaco forum that you had miui installed at one point, if you had to put one on again which one would you use along with radio and kernel?.
I can see that you have loads of experience and i'll go with your recommendation I appreciate that it is a preference thing i mainly want something quickish, stable and cool looking (xj, au or dev?).
I like the miui because they look like an iphone but have an android feel so to speak so best of both worlds, im no iphone hater but it is over rated but icons look cool.
thanks
mav

[Q] Questions regarding CM7 [Nightly builds]

Hii everyone.
I have some questions regarding CM7 [Nightly Builds] right now i m using CM7 Stable (7.0.03) and want to upgrade to CM7 nightly.
But before doing that i want to know
Firstly, the difference between the both?
Secondly, will it be flashed through the same way as i hv flashed stable CM7?
Third, i m using CWM 4 so will it require to upgrade to 5 to flash nightly?
Four, how is the camera quality in nightly becoz i hv found a worst cam experience in CM7 stable yesterday?
Sorry for my english. I wanted to know all these things so i hv putted my queries here.
Hope this might help more newbies like me.
Thnx

1: There are many changes which go into everyone of the nightlies, so you will have newer features, and, maybe, newer bugs. But, you can read the last few pages of the CM Nightlies thread to get info on any bug which members may be facing. Nightly changelogs can be found here:
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=buzz
2: Yes, it will be flashed in the same way.
3: No, CWM4 will work perfectly.
4: Its pretty much the same across all AOSP ROM's. The only thing that is new is the Touch to Focus Function which is now implemented. Use Better Camera mod for CM7 here, which reduces the JPEG Compression applied on the images, giving potentially sharper images:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192785

Register with Rom Manager
Hi,
I wanted to register the ROM(have Rom Manager premium)
but failed.Any idea how to make it?

Worked
thnx 3xeno for your help making clear all the things.
Just flashed now checking all the things apps etc. if any bug found i will ask again.
regards

CM7 Nightly # 177
Hello ...Pardon my mistakes .. i am kinda beginner for Android .. ..
I just flashed CM Nightly 177 .. works great .. its fast ... but i am facing problems if anyone can help me with this :
1- after installing ZIP of CM i installed the zip "gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip" for google apps. it worked for me with my last CM7 based ROM "High Voltage 1.2" .. but not working here .. i am unable to get Market and Maps .. which Google apps zip i should install with this nightly... ?
2- i was using A2SDGUI with my previous ROM and for that i flashed Darktremor script "dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip" . but when i use the same script for CM 177, my phone reboots and never seems to complete the boot process "stuck on HTC logo" ... it is obvious that the problem is creating by that script.. but i want to know that ...am i missing something here ??
Or a dumb question ... does it makes any difference to move the apps to SD ??... ?? LOL ... or should i leave it and enjoy rest of the features ??
i will hit the thanks button for sure...

Have you tried popping the battery out when stuck at the HTC screen then rebooting, I'm not sure what causes it but it sometimes happens to me when rebooting From recovery?
I think dta2sd beta 4 is buggy I had problems too, just switch back to beta 3 and it should work fine. Apps will be more stable when running from the internal memory but when I was using a2sd I didn't really notice the difference except a quarter of my miserably small 2gb SD card had gone for the partition :/
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

hi this is my help, maybe others say different but.......
1. after flashing cm177 flash the gapps too before reboot. i use the same gapps as this on 177 so its fine.
2.i had probs with beta so use Version 2.7.5.2-1.
* personal preferences, i say its worth having the option to move my large memory apps to sd but have tried with and without and cos im a bit of a memory junkie i prefer to use apps on sd.
basic but hope it helps. regards slymobi.

Scratch0805 said:
Have you tried popping the battery out when stuck at the HTC screen then rebooting, I'm not sure what causes it but it sometimes happens to me when rebooting From recovery?
I think dta2sd beta 4 is buggy I had problems too, just switch back to beta 3 and it should work fine. Apps will be more stable when running from the internal memory but when I was using a2sd I didn't really notice the difference except a quarter of my miserably small 2gb SD card had gone for the partition :/
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
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Well .. yes i did popped out the battery and tried to boot.. after couple of failures .. it did ..but was rebooting automatically...
so i flashed the ROM again .. wiping everything .. even formatted the SD and made partitions again..
this time it failed boot only first time .. and i did that battery popping thing (watched the HTC logo for about 15 minutes )... then uptil now its fine with the same beta 4 script .. ... lets see how long it goes ...
but still i am not getting google apps .... ...

slymobi said:
hi this is my help, maybe others say different but.......
1. after flashing cm177 flash the gapps too before reboot. i use the same gapps as this on 177 so its fine.
2.i had probs with beta so use Version 2.7.5.2-1.
* personal preferences, i say its worth having the option to move my large memory apps to sd but have tried with and without and cos im a bit of a memory junkie i prefer to use apps on sd.
basic but hope it helps. regards slymobi.
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Yup ... i did so with flashing the Gapps just after the ROM before first reboot .. if it is working for you then it will work for me .. i will flash gapps again .. ..
i hope if something will not go wrong with that darktremor beta4 script ... i will use the version "2.7.5.2-1" ... ... beta is working for me till now after reflashing the ROM ... ... just for a note .. i wiped everything .. even re-partitioned SD too ..

MildWild Sense A2SD+

Hi all.
Can anyone post a mirror for this rom please MildWild Sense A2SD+ CM7 Hboot version as the Mediafire link is down
I can't post in the rom development thread due to not enough posts yet.
Thanks.

If the link is down, it usually means that MildWild is in the process of uploading a new update. Just wait an hour or two.

There are some mirrors posted. Check it out.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

Mildwild - sense
I have checked out MildWild's sense ROM and it is really nice. However, I found it a bit laggy, especially when activating, deactivating or simply using mobile data connection or wifi. I came from Mildwild's Redux2 Rom - Version 6 and after half a day spent on MW SENSE, I moved back to MW REDUX 9.5. Seems like sense-less roms are faster after all. Anyways MildWild is a respectable member of this communitiy and I am truly thankful.

Hi there,
I'm thinking about installing this ROM on my Desire but the developer recommends and ext4 partition of 1GB. I have a 32GB class 10 card and I have already patitioned it with 2GB ext4. will this cause any problems or am I OK to go?
Another question: I have Titaniun Backup pro. Which is the best way to restore my current apps and settings after flashing the ROM using it? Sorry for the noob questions but this is the first ROM I flash
I'm posting this question here because I'm under 10 posts so cannot post on the ROM tread.
Tks

2gb may be little high and can make your unstable. Always stick to the devs recommended settings.
As for TB goes, first take back up of your apps and after flashing the ROM, restore only the apps (not apps+data). Also better not to restore any system files like gmail, etc.
Sent from my HTC Desire

dvsk69 said:
2gb may be little high and can make your unstable. Always stick to the devs recommended settings.
As for TB goes, first take back up of your apps and after flashing the ROM, restore only the apps (not apps+data). Also better not to restore any system files like gmail, etc.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Thanks,
I will remake the partitions on the SDcard again using 4ext recovery touch, same as last time, before I flash the ROM.
As for TB, I will do as you suggest. I've read that to use TB after flashing the ROM I need to install it again from the Play store but how can I make sure the store doesn't install any other apps automatically?

Store will not install anything unless you do it. After flashing the ROM, setup Google account and restore your contacts. Install TB and then restore your apps.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

Hi,
I've flashed this ROM a few hours ago and was playing with it for a while and I just noticed that I can't boot into hboot by pressing Vol- and Power buttons while the phone is off. When I use vol- & power it just reboots as if only the power button is pressed. How can I boot the phone into hboot and recovery?
EDIT: Nevermind. I've solved it. I took the battery out and waited a little bit and then i managed to get into hboot by pressing Vol- & Power buttons. Cheers.

[Q] Unable to boot many roms

So, like a half of a year ago I've got my Desire, second hand. Now I didn't want to be stuck forever on Android 2.2 and old Sense, so I decided to root and install a newer rom. Rooting and S-OFF were succesful after a bit messing around, but it worked. So, I've tried a lot of roms, but just a few of them seemed to work, Usually the ones, I didn't need. Right now I'm on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom, but it sometimes has a problem with the microphone. Else than that, it works nicely stable, many times more stable than the 2.3.3 RUU from HTC. But don't really like the interface, I'm a huge fan of Sense.
Now I didn't get any Sense rom to work, all the way from the 2.1 Sense roms to the newest 4.1 rom (where the number is the Sense version). I only got some plain roms to work, which I've used a little time, but they don't really satisfy me.
So, the tech information: rooted with Revolutionary, so the recovery is the ClockworkMod. The phone is also S-OFF, runs on HBOOT 6.93.1002, and currently runs on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom. I've tried almost all roms with Sense, exept for some new ones (4.0+) since they still have a lot problems with things I need to have.
So, I hope somebody is able to help me.
Looking right now, I haven't tried the latest Cooldroid Revolution yet, so I'll try that right now.

Tell us a little about your sd-ext partition.

I'm 99% certain you didn't create EXT partition on SD card, or you didn't do it correctly.
Use 4ext recovery to partition your SD (create 1GB ext4 partition and nothing else, rest will be FAT32 where you store your media etc.)
Reason why Touchwiz 5 JB worked for you, is that it doesn't require EXT partition to boot, since you have to activate a2sd script manually using terminal.
And without a2sd you will run out of space rather quickly.

Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.

Scoutsassin said:
Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.
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Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.
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oooh nice and simple!

Good, with the EXT 2 partition it all works now. Got RSK Satelite (whatever it's called) running, Thanks for the help everybody!