This Thread is for Optimizing your Battery Life for the ongoing CM10 builds by Quarx, and for my nagging questions.
First you should read about your Battery, and how it calibrates here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778492
then I recommend this older Thread of a guy who managed to squeeze out 6 days of juice from his Defy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390
His approach is very simple; LessIsMore: no sync, no mobile Data, no widgets, no GPS, bare minimum Apps....
I tried that with Quarx builds, and of course it works. The Downside is, there`s no more shiny stuff on my phone. The good thing apart from increased Battery Life, the OS becomes very fast and a great Testgadget for Quarx work in a minimal environment.
But from here I`d like to dig deeper, and get more Power:
Which System APP`s can be deleted whithout Problems? (I started with trebuchet (nova Launcher) that gives 10MB)
Do you now good alternative APP`s with a low Energy Footprint?
Do you use your phone in any special Battery efficient way? (I have all my non super important APP`s stored as backups with Titanium Backup, and restore them when needed)
WLAN always on?
What other things help with Battery Life on CM10 Jelly Bean?
qx876 said:
This Thread is for Optimizing your Battery Life for the ongoing CM10 builds by Quarx, and for my nagging questions.
First you should read about your Battery, and how it calibrates here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778492
then I recommend this older Thread of a guy who managed to squeeze out 6 days of juice from his Defy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390
His approach is very simple; LessIsMore: no sync, no mobile Data, no widgets, no GPS, bare minimum Apps....
I tried that with Quarx builds, and of course it works. The Downside is, there`s no more shiny stuff on my phone. The good thing apart from increased Battery Life, the OS becomes very fast and a great Testgadget for Quarx work in a minimal environment.
But from here I`d like to dig deeper, and get more Power:
Which System APP`s can be deleted whithout Problems? (I started with trebuchet (nova Launcher) that gives 10MB)
Do you now good alternative APP`s with a low Energy Footprint?
Do you use your phone in any special Battery efficient way? (I have all my non super important APP`s stored as backups with Titanium Backup, and restore them when needed)
WLAN always on?
What other things help with Battery Life on CM10 Jelly Bean?
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If LessIsMore, in the way you described it, is the way to go for better battery performance, it will be much more efficient to abandon SMART Phones all together and go back to NOKIA Age.
In today time (21st century) we need to be connected to the net and cloud AT ALL TIME therefore there must be other solution about batteries. Either bigger capacities (RAZR MAXX) or optimized software.
Quarx and the rest from XDA or CM can not help with the hardware (Big capacity batteries) but could optimized the software. I am aware that everyone has different requirement/need BUT there must be a point to start from (may be at least 8 hours (while on work) 3G DATA On (messaging, e-mails), All the goodies (screen related fancy widget, etc.) some Browsing, some Music/Radio) until back home.
And so say (for example): Quarx Rom v.X is out now (and you will be sure that by this set of min. requirement) it will last for at least while on work (typically 8 hours)
It will eliminate half of the question here about "Battery drain and how to overcome it"
At least that is the way I think about all this issues.
Buy more mAH battery
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I'd suggest grabbing this battery:
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I'm not too battery efficient but I am curious as to what I can tweek in the display settings since most of it has some alien jargon. i.e. the Light Sensor Levels...
Ok, here's my current setup I'm reading for battery savings. I think it sets a good balance between efficiency and usability. I'm using Llama to automate all of this.
Data switches on when the phone is unlocked and switches off 2 min after screen off. If I'm at home, the WiFi also switches on with the same settings. When WiFi is connected, data switches off.
When mobile data is on, 2G/3G is on. When the screen turns off or when the WiFi is connected, 2G only.
Sync is disabled, but every hour the mobile data is enabled and it turns on sync and requests update.
I've mucked around with custom auto brightness levels and vsel values as well, and it automatically sets to vsel1 when the screen is off.
Here is my usage from yesterday. This included about 50 min of voice calls.
Sent from my Jelly Bean powered Motorola Defy
The screen, and specifically the backlight are major battery hogs.
With this in mind, I'd suggest, if you use your phone mostly at night (like me) then even minimum brightness can be too much...
Use an app like Screen Filter to reduce your brightness levels right up to 0% backlight.
I use the light sensor levels in the day, and at night, when I find the screen a bit too bright, I switch to the lowest sensor level and add a filter of up to 54% or 72%, as need be.
Doing this, I've noticed that screen related battery consumption goes down from 90% with screen continuously on to ~75%.
Check it out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.haxor&hl=en
How about this
h t t p://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=359221&view=findpost&p=16625420
11 days on Qkernel
krushnam said:
The screen, and specifically the backlight are major battery hogs.
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Can someone share his experience with the sensor levels for the automatic brightness? Also maybe for the other 'automatic brightness' values ..
... apart of the fact that the number of stages has to be changed to save values in the current Quarx Rom
T'x
entropicAlchemist said:
Ok, here's my current setup I'm reading for battery savings. I think it sets a good balance between efficiency and usability. I'm using Llama to automate all of this.
Data switches on when the phone is unlocked and switches off 2 min after screen off. If I'm at home, the WiFi also switches on with the same settings. When WiFi is connected, data switches off.
When mobile data is on, 2G/3G is on. When the screen turns off or when the WiFi is connected, 2G only.
Sync is disabled, but every hour the mobile data is enabled and it turns on sync and requests update.
I've mucked around with custom auto brightness levels and vsel values as well, and it automatically sets to vsel1 when the screen is off.
Here is my usage from yesterday. This included about 50 min of voice calls.
Sent from my Jelly Bean powered Motorola Defy
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I love my Llama!
I've been looking for something like this since I left the factory supplied motoblur eclair which had some simple data management functions built in. There are literally hundreds of different actions and conditions to personalise. This is sure to extend battery life.
One question. Have you noticed if the app itself uses much battery?
Thanks for sharing... everyone needs a Llama!
MB526 CM10'd by QUARX
jonesy17 said:
One question. Have you noticed if the app itself uses much battery?
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The power usage is really minimal. The location method uses the cell id of the tower you are connected to, so does not use additional battery like the Google Location Service or GPS.
Llama is definitely in my shortlist for favorite app.
Also, one of the latest beta release has a profile sharing feature. If I can figure that out I might post some of my profiles.
Sent from my Jelly Bean powered Motorola Defy
Thanks...
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hi.i`ve installed cm7.2 rc1 and i`ve faced very strange thing and i don`t know what should or what can i do?? my display drains average 70 percent of battery and it`s in most of the times! and it doesn`t matter that i install a sense rom or an aosp rom!! please help me! i post a screenshot from battery use part of my cyanogen rom!
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hi.i`ve installed cm7.2 rc1 and i`ve faced very strange thing and i don`t know what should or what can i do?? my display drains average 70 percent of battery and it`s in most of the times! and it doesn`t matter that i install a sense rom or an aosp rom!! please help me! i post a screenshot from battery use part of my cyanogen rom!
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click on the display bar and see the screen on time...
the display is supposed to use the most battery...
we can't help the basic laws of physics. --> screen on = battery use
if you want to save a little more, turn the brightness down. if you want to go to extremes use dark themes (if amoled)
if you don't want the display to use battery, don't turn it on
I don't think it's something wrong with your phone , as I can see. For me , the screen is the biggest consumer, too. But when have you taken that screenshot ? Is that for about 14 minutes after you've turned it on ? Because if it's so, it's normal that the display is the first consumator .. in 14 minutes since you have turned the phone on, the screen was detected as a primary consumator. Try letting it set for a while.. make some phone calls , browse the web and untick the automatic brightness (you should set it manually at about 30%). Then check it again and tell us if something changed. Good luck !
eddiehk6 said:
click on the display bar and see the screen on time...
the display is supposed to use the most battery...
we can't help the basic laws of physics. --> screen on = battery use
if you want to save a little more, turn the brightness down. if you want to go to extremes use dark themes (if amoled)
if you don't want the display to use battery, don't turn it on
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i don`t know what do you mean! your said is correct but not about 79 percent and not with such battery drain!! in cm7 i use only about 5 hours with wifi and it gets empty! is it right?
rares1235 said:
I don't think it's something wrong with your phone , as I can see. For me , the screen is the biggest consumer, too. But when have you taken that screenshot ? Is that for about 14 minutes after you've turned it on ? Because if it's so, it's normal that the display is the first consumator .. in 14 minutes since you have turned the phone on, the screen was detected as a primary consumator. Try letting it set for a while.. make some phone calls , browse the web and untick the automatic brightness (you should set it manually at about 30%). Then check it again and tell us if something changed. Good luck !
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ok.i got it. could you please answer this question too? it doesn`t matter that you install a sense rom or a aosp rom.is it ok that in both of theme display consums more that other processes? and what is the best way to calibrate my battery?a way that works with battery calibrator for nexus one doesn`t work for me!it doesn`t reach to 3201 mv and suddenly it turns off(without shutting down animation!. what can i do to calibrate my battery?
rares1235 said:
Try letting it set for a while.. make some phone calls , browse the web and untick the automatic brightness (you should set it manually at about 30%). Then check it again and tell us if something changed. Good luck !
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thanks for your replying.but after 54 minutes and talk to someone still displayes consums 78 percent!is it okay!! can i trust to a software named lux to adjust the light to best level? sorry for my bad english.english isn`t my primary language!
and how can i find out that my phone has slcd or amoled screen?
I think it's better to set it manually because if you set it to automatically the light sensor will permanently be on and that drains your battery too. I've used Die Hard Battery script to clear the logs of the baterry and now i have 70% battery for about 15 hours :> (and i can tell you it is a normal use - games,a little internet and phone calls) . For the question about the sense/aosp rom.. the screen is on for both of the roms, isn't it ? This is NOT about theme, this is about the display/screen. To see if it's slcd of amoled, look on the back of the box and see if it is "3.7 inch amoled" or "3.7 touch-sensitive screen". It was a difference in hboots too, but I can't remeber..
Look at my screenshots and hit Thanks if helped. Good luck!
EDIT: here's the Die Hard Battery Calibrator (if you use this, it should be ok after the 2nd charge and after some reboots, just let it set for a while.. in the next few hours after the calibration, the battery will discharge quite quickly ) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18703418&postcount=5021
thanks.can you upload your pics in another site?i can`t see your screenshots! and should i reflash my rom again?or there is no need?? and how can i use that?
You don't have to flash the rom again. You have to download it and run the script with ScriptManager app (or in terminal emulator) ..search for some instructions on the link I gave to you.. Good luck
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On this example, see that Awake bar? That's basically the time your phone is running although you have the screen off. If you have a lot of apps that are constantly updating or if you have poorly programmed apps, those will run and will not let your phone sleep thus more battery usage.
If the Awake bar is significantly greater than the Screen on bar, then you have a problematic app.
should i use this script every time or when my battery calibrated then i can use another script like super charger?
Right now I don't use the supercharger script like I had before. I'm running CM7.2RC1 with ManU kernel 2.1 and manages my app updates manually (yeah I'm a control freak). This is my battery stats for today. I haven't been using it much and my wake status is pretty much the same as my Screen on as it should be.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a302/ramonmitra/screenshot-1333661690835.png
should i set this script to run on every boot? a question irrelevant to this topic?i`m curious!is bcm for desire have theme ability or not?? if yes,then please if you can link me to that topic!!
Facebook and mail are running constantly for me, and 3G or WiFi is on. It's normal to be like that since the background services are on.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
could you answer my questions please?
siavash2death said:
could you answer my questions please?
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If you read the supercharger script thread, it says not to run any script at boot (however things might have changed since it's been a while since I used the script). The battery calibration script seems to be just wiping battery stats which really doesn't do anything. If you wanna calibrate the battery try this.
stankyou said:
If you read the supercharger script thread, it says not to run any script at boot (however things might have changed since it's been a while since I used the script). The battery calibration script seems to be just wiping battery stats which really doesn't do anything. If you wanna calibrate the battery try this.
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ok,i`ll try it.thanks.
sorry.this method doesn`t workout for me!! my desire have a 1400 mAh battery.why i should set it at 1452?? and the uV didn`t reach to 3201!! before that around 3225 or sth like that the capacity turns 0 and my device shuts down and before that the learn flag won`t turn on!!!! what can i do??
I am on Stock Rom (Forgot to mention this)
I average about 3.30 hours of screen time with my settings everyday, today I had 4.30 hours, 1.4 Internet surfing, 30 min voice calls, and 12 hours of wifi, total time 22.54 hours.
This is my best so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...79392&page=114 (I think I can reach better results (Have better average results now)
Also please feel free to share your settings.
My settings:
Unlocked and rooted.
LED Notifications off (except for SMS).
Fastboot in power settings unticket.
Sound Settings - Turned sensors Off: Quiet ring on pick up, Pocket mode, Flip for speaker.
Brightness Control using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rightnesslevel (I mostly leave it at 15% its more than enough for my vision at least, then if out and its really sunny I just switch to 50% its a widget so its easy to use).
All vibration settings,haptic feedback and stuff off(except for phone calls).
All auto-sync off (everything updates when you enter it like email and weather and others so no need to be on).
All animations Off (you won't notice any difference after awhile so it might as well be off).
Phone dial,keyboard and other tones off.
In developer options-> Background process limit set to 3. (Reverts after reboot/restart)
Using Core Control, can be found here (Must be rooted) http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1652136 and I have it set to 2 cores. (Reverts after reboot/restart)
Have the backlights on the 3 capacitive buttons on the bottom off at all times using Tasker using a mod made by backfromthestorm, credits go to him and nobnut, mod can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1657619&page=3 (Reverts after reboot/restart).
Another mod from backfromthestorm (which can be found in the link above aswell)is better multi-tasking which changes the values in sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree file to 1536,2048,3584,5120,15360,20480, I set the values using Tasker. (Reverts after reboot/restart).
Another thing I do before going to sleep or not going to use the phone for a few hours is I use the built in app Task Manager's and kill all tasks and then turn the screen off, by doing this I have noticed that battery percentage doesn't mysteriously drop without using it.
Can't remember what other settings I may have at the moment but will add if memory allows
I have frozen the following apps and others:
I thought this way would be quicker and easier, I hope at least excuse my laziness otherwise
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Old thread copied and up with moderators consent.
Old thread was closed due to pointless flaming.
Old thread could not be re-opened so I copied the contents, I hope people that comment here keep it clean and to the subject.
Decent stats:
This was pretty much hardcore non-stop usage.
This was pretty much not letting the phone rest from the moment it finished charging.
Will do some video tests later to see how long it can last while watching some HD flicks.
Apps in first in screens post are all frozen?
stifler05 said:
Apps in first in screens post are all frozen?
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I have frozen the following apps and others:
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yes mate
Goku80 said:
yes mate
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Thank mate.
Always have to be sure 100%
Thanks for all the tweaks, I have never had more than 2.5 hour screen time. Ill shall now use some of your settings to mix my own frozen yogurt (edit Ice Cream yogurt) . So far CM9 seems to be my bag, but I bought the phone for the camera...
Very useful thread, thanks
Just one thing though, the LEDs used for the LED Notifications use so little power that you can leave them enabled and it will drain next to no power at all! Not sure about the capacitive LEDs though, I can't imagine they use much power either!
Meltus said:
Very useful thread, thanks
Just one thing though, the LEDs used for the LED Notifications use so little power that you can leave them enabled and it will drain next to no power at all! Not sure about the capacitive LEDs though, I can't imagine they use much power either!
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You are welcome, yeah I know that the LEDs may not save much battery at all but one thing I like about the capacitive lights is that I have the options as widget shortcuts on my screen so I can turn them on when I feel like I need them, but most of the time I keep them off
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Thanks for all the tweaks, I have never had more than 2.5 hour screen time. Ill shall now use some of your settings to mix my own frozen yogurt (edit Ice Cream yogurt) . So far CM9 seems to be my bag, but I bought the phone for the camera...
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You are welcome and I hope it helps.
Cheers
Will give these tips a try. Quite a lot of cutting here, kind of reminds me of what David Cameron is doing to the UK economy to save money
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thanks Johnny0906, wow just got the phone and that info is priceless.. Thanks
Thanks at first since it's a piece of useful information.
But I can't keep myself wondering. what do you use this phone for since almost everthing is frozen.
So I haven't got a chance to root yet, but i got juice defender on extreme profile and I got 10% battery left after 10 hrs and I haven't even used it that much. I remember before just using the free version I was getting more. I use wifi over mobile network when possible and I make sure wifi is off when leaving the house, but I was home all day. What is everyone else getting and any help? Here is a screen shot.
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Obviously screen brightness is the most of it, but do you think thats accurate? I have it on auto? What should I put it on? How many hours are you guys getting with or without juice defender?
I average around 12hours with 2.5 to 3 hours of screen on time. That's without any kind of battery saver. I have 4g on all day, auto sync on, full brightness on all day. Usually leave my house at 2 to work and when I get out at around 11 I have around 60 to 70%.
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I get typically 3-4 hours of screen time, it seems like, but I'm not doing the most I could.
The total time really just depends on how long it was idle - I've gone over a day, but also used up battery much faster. I typically charge once a day, 16-ish hours from last charge.
I am thinking that you have some other apps running in the background that are polling for notifications. I am also betting that you are not getting very much Deep Sleep due to wakelocks. The only way to really tell is to use Betterbatterystats from the market, but that is a root app, so no joy there.
Only thing that I can offer is the simple approach. Check your Auto-Sync -is it synching all the time, do you have Maps/GoogleNow running all the time, Locations/GPS, Manage Apps>FC apps that you are not using, maybe take a look at your JuiceDefender preferences (I have used JD+ for years and love it-Don't use JDExt though), Lots of downloads/surfing (see Browser is up there on your list),...
Really without Root, it would be hard to diagnose what is "really" eating your battery.
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I am thinking that you have some other apps running in the background that are polling for notifications. I am also betting that you are not getting very much Deep Sleep due to wakelocks. The only way to really tell is to use Betterbatterystats from the market, but that is a root app, so no joy there.
Only thing that I can offer is the simple approach. Check your Auto-Sync -is it synching all the time, do you have Maps/GoogleNow running all the time, Locations/GPS, Manage Apps>FC apps that you are not using, maybe take a look at your JuiceDefender preferences (I have used JD+ for years and love it-Don't use JDExt though), Lots of downloads/surfing (see Browser is up there on your list),...
Really without Root, it would be hard to diagnose what is "really" eating your battery.
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Why not the extreme profile? Right now I have jd-ultimate and on extreme profile. No good? It basically has all my data off completely. Then I enabled the apps that I use in configuration. This then only allows data for these particular apps but only when I open these apps up for use. I appreciate the help and by no means second guessing you. I just dont understand why the jd plus not using extreme profile is better than jd ultimate using extreme profile. By the way I turned the brightness from auto to all the way down and it seems the battery is a lot better now, but I haven't used the phone as much as the other day so idk.
No, no you are fine. I don't think you are 2nd guessing me at all. I just don't use Extreme because I use the Customize option myself. Plus I have JD+ and not JDUlt. If you want more about my set up, go to my battery guide and post#4. It has my specific settings and how JD really works.
Also, just because you are not actively "using" the app, doesn't mean that it isn't running. If you say set up Twitter to poll for notifications every 15mins, well, that is a User Preference which will take priority over JD's Preferences and will open up your radios, thus causing battery drain.
My main point above was that you need to look at your background processes and see what is running. I am betting that you have some things that are running that you are not aware of and which can be shut down (i.e. media scanner, picasa,...) Get Betterbaterystats from my guide or the market and it will tell you what is running/eating your battery and also what is causing wakelocks and preventing Deep Sleep.
Betterbatterystats is really worth it, I have the apk from here, but plan on buying it next pay cheque.
It will tell you where your battery power is really going. It can be a bit to figure out for a noob, but I just Google things I wasn't sure about.
I think that controlling things myself is the most effective thing to do since I know what I really need I can Erma of functionality and where I can compromise.
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Some take the time to read. Others do not. They are lazy..
I have a few questions before I get a ZF2
How is the battery life now ? Did they fixed the battery drain ?
Is Lolipop 5.1 available for this phone ?
Did they improved the camera ? I remember some reviews complaining about the lack of DR in most pictures.
Thank you.
There is no battery drain on this phone. You will always find people complain about battery drain on every smartphone out there.
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ione2380 said:
There is no battery drain on this phone. You will always find people complain about battery drain on every smartphone out there.
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you should check Android authority's review and tons of people are complaining about the battery life. Maybe you got the phone with an update preinstalled ? That would be a good news !
Are you a moderate user like me ? If you are, how much battery do you have left at the end of the day ?
Thank you
I have it for a month now, got it with an old firmware, now i'm running latest. I get 6 - 7 hours sot over 24 hours. Also, don't use the integrated Asus task killer, battery saver and autostart manager. They only drain battery. I rooted and installed a custom rom that has almost all Asus apps removed but i didn't have battery problems on stock rom either. There is an "android system" that is showing on top of battery usage but it is not a problem for me as it only drains 2-3% over night. I olso turn on data, wifi or gps, only when i need them. I always get top battery life on every smartphone i have, i don't think this is coincidence or luck. The drain is exactly the same as on every other powerfull smartphone on the market.
This phone receives software updates every two weeks and is getting better and better. It just got a new update today if you look in general section. What other oem updates their flagship so often? ?
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As previously mentioned, there is no extra battery drain on this phone. It holds up to a good 5-6 hours on daily use. It is an amazing device except for the camera, which is the only bad thing I find about the phone.
Incase you're wondering, ZenUI is AMAZING! I don't know why everyone hates on it, but I've used almost EVERY manufacturer's edition of Android and ZenUI is by far the best. It is the most customizable, it looks the cleanest, and it takes medium amounts of RAM. I say 'medium' because HTC takes A LOT, Sony is whatever, LG is okay, and Samsung takes TOO MUCH.
I feel like ZenUI combines the best in all of the skins and features into 1 neat package that is highly customizable. NOT TO MENTION, you get tap 2 wake STOCK while I had to custom ROM custom Kernel my HTC in order to get a battery hungry and impractical version of it.
Just buy the phone, and make sure to get the 2.3GHz/4GB RAM version.
Enjoy
ione2380 said:
I have it for a month now, got it with an old firmware, now i'm running latest. I get 6 - 7 hours sot over 24 hours. Also, don't use the integrated Asus task killer, battery saver and autostart manager. They only drain battery. I rooted and installed a custom rom that has almost all Asus apps removed but i didn't have battery problems on stock rom either. There is an "android system" that is showing on top of battery usage but it is not a problem for me as it only drains 2-3% over night. I olso turn on data, wifi or gps, only when i need them. I always get top battery life on every smartphone i have, i don't think this is coincidence or luck. The drain is exactly the same as on every other powerfull smartphone on the market.
This phone receives software updates every two weeks and is getting better and better. It just got a new update today if you look in general section. What other oem updates their flagship so often?
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what ROM are you using ? I wish I could get a battery life like yours with stock.
Relayers said:
what ROM are you using ? I wish I could get a battery life like yours with stock.
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Prism Barebone.
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Relayers said:
what ROM are you using ? I wish I could get a battery life like yours with stock.
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I'm running stock and get ALMOST what he's getting with stock kernel.
The key is to get root and uninstall/freeze any ASUS apps you don't need/use, install Xposed and use Greenify to freeze apps after they are closed, and finally, set proper battery options such as disabling WiFi & 4G when the screen is off. I need constant email notifications so with the automatic Data Disabling option, I set the GMAIL app as its exception and I continue to get notifications at 10 minute intervals. I assume it disables the networks but re-enables them momentarily and lets GMAIL sync, then disables again. I've never seen this done before especially as a STOCK option.
EdoIsa said:
I'm running stock and get ALMOST what he's getting with stock kernel.
The key is to get root and uninstall/freeze any ASUS apps you don't need/use, install Xposed and use Greenify to freeze apps after they are closed, and finally, set proper battery options such as disabling WiFi & 4G when the screen is off. I need constant email notifications so with the automatic Data Disabling option, I set the GMAIL app as its exception and I continue to get notifications at 10 minute intervals. I assume it disables the networks but re-enables them momentarily and lets GMAIL sync, then disables again. I've never seen this done before especially as a STOCK option.
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I need wifi and 4g when the screen is off. What a weird suggestion...
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I need wifi and 4g when the screen is off. What a weird suggestion...
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The beauty of it is, it still updates, just periodically ....
EdoIsa said:
The beauty of it is, it still updates, just periodically ....
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there is no battery draining (for now) when both are enable anyway, so I dont see why I should turn it off. The battery start draining fast as soon as Im using it. It is by far the worst battery life I ever got.
The good news is I can apparently return the phone at no cost, not even the shipping. I will know more next week. Hurray !
I've had the 10 for about a month now, moved from my M8 and the batterylife is terrible. I set up the 10 as a new device, downloaded my apps and moved across my SD card. Honestly my 2 and a half year old M8 got better batterylife, I mainly use chrome, youtube and poweramp, no/minimal 3D games, auto brightness about 1/3 up. The 10 is getting me about 2.5-3.5 hrs of screen on, that's absolutely atrocious for my uses, I've never had a device drain so quickly. My M8 by comparison used to get 4-5Hrs screen on until the android 5 and 6 updates hit. I turn off Bluetooth and GPS when not in use and greenify hasn't made a substantial difference either.
I would prefer not to root this phone for the sake of easier updates so kernels and roms are out of the question, any idea why the batterylife is so bad? What should I do to see what's draining the cell so fast? Thanks in advance for any responses.
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Hi Ryan,
Have you optimised your battery? Setting - Power - Battery Optimisation. This helped me a little after struggling with poor battery life. I also run with power saving enabled and haven't noticed any performance issues. I can get around 24 hrs use with these settings enabled. My screen on time and most others is in the 3 hr to 3.5 hr range, and I wouldn't expect much more to be honest.
See how you go with these settings applied.
Download Gsam battery monitor to make sure an app isn't stopping your device dozing when idle as well.
Regards Dan
karanga said:
Hi Ryan,
Have you optimised your battery? Setting - Power - Battery Optimisation. This helped me a little after struggling with poor battery life. I also run with power saving enabled and haven't noticed any performance issues. I can get around 24 hrs use with these settings enabled. My screen on time and most others is in the 3 hr to 3.5 hr range, and I wouldn't expect much more to be honest.
See how you go with these settings applied.
Download Gsam battery monitor to make sure an app isn't stopping your device dozing when idle as well.
Regards Dan
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Thanks for the quick reply Dan,
Used to always use power saver mode on my M8 until HTC removed the option to use power saver without capping screen brightness and since the quick settings are set it's quite a hassle to constantly toggle when outdoors. I am using battery optimisation, I'll give gsam a go.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u24mjkvxxx5uv3b/hTc_10_Battery_Life.zip?dl=0
P.S. And make sure you do not use Chrome or AliExpress, and spent 20 minutes to shut down battery optimization for all apps.. Power >> Battery Optimization >> then one by one: Off, Off, Off, etc...
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jauhien said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u24mjkvxxx5uv3b/hTc_10_Battery_Life.zip?dl=0
P.S. And make sure you do not use Chrome or AliExpress, and spent 20 minutes to shut down battery optimization for all apps.. Power >> Battery Optimization >> then one by one: Off, Off, Off, etc...
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Why should we turn off battery optimization? Does it make battery worse?
Kontal said:
Why should we turn off battery optimization? Does it make battery worse?
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It does.
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It does.
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So whats the point in the whole "battery optimization" name? Should i also turn off gaming optimization in boost+?
First of all disable boost+, clean up ram will just make things worst, google the reason if you want to know why.
second, disable all unused app, service, there are quite a few come with the HTC10
third, install better battery status, look for alarm and wakelock, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 , remember to enable the permission is #4 post.
there quite a lot of app have too much wakelock and alarm, prevent the phone go to deep sleep, eg: techchurch app
you can also install some battery log to record the % drop vs time, I use this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.hwangti.batterylog
with all this above, I can keep using chrome, facebook, whatsapp with wifi, consume about 1% per 5~6 mins, If I just let it idle then it can last for more then 25hrs with light use.
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Kontal said:
So whats the point in the whole "battery optimization" name? Should i also turn off gaming optimization in boost+?
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battery optimization should not be disable unless you have problem with those app, it stop app running in background when you phone idle for a while. It does sometime consume more battery in android 5.0, but most of the bug fixed in 6.0. There are some document how it work in android.
boost+ "clean up" will just make battery worse, android (bettey say most OS, include windows, linux, IOS) will keep the app stay in ram so the app don't need to load again next time, thus save battery. app stay in ram will not use more battery, and as the above battery optimization will stop it after a while when idle. the only reason to manually stop/clean a app is when the app keep running abnormal, consume too much battery unexpected, such as keep making wakelock and alarm prevent the phone go to deep sleep. most of this app will just reload after you kill it, so boost+ "clean up ram" is not useful most of the time, uninstall such app or disable them is the solution.
gaming optimization reduce the resolution, actually it only can save very little battery, but for some game running in QHD is no different in FHD, so why not let the it "optimize"
How do you disable game optimization? I can't find it in my settings. Thanks!
pettigrew95 said:
How do you disable game optimization? I can't find it in my settings. Thanks!
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Game optimization feature is in app Boost+.
Kontal said:
Game optimization feature is in app Boost+.
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Oh, I can't find it because I uninstalled that app as soon as I got my phone lol.