Develop Bugs

HTC EVO "Suspend" System App

About a week ago, I noticed my EVO was rapidly discharging its battey. In an attempt to find the culprit, I bought the SystemPanel App from the market and enabled CPU usage tracking. My phone returned to normal after a restart, so i just let the tracking keep running. Today, I again noticed my battery draining extremely fast when I got into work. I went into SystemPanel, and looked at the usage...
At whopping 42% of my CPU usage was allocated to the android "suspend" system app. It's global average for the past week was only 1.2% before this morning. Obviously, this app is doing something in the background and killing my battery. Does anyone here have any idea what may be going on?

I know that Q&A forum would have netted you a propper answer a lot faster

hooover said:
I know that Q&A forum would have netted you a propper answer a lot faster
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You Could have said it a little nicer.. but you came off as a **** in all BOLD text..
Do not flame me.. I will ignore you. As this is a response to your ****'ness.. you asked for it..
I know he posted this in the wrong section, We get it. Get over it and to ALL those that keep making USELESS "WRONGE SECTION" posts, your no better then the OP..

WHoch Q&A section? Can a MOD move this there for me?

Yes.. Q&A would be Best.. and yes.. a mod will have to move it..
as you've noticed.. people are getting a little testy to Q posts being in the development forum..

What rom are you using? (assuming you are rooted) have you tried wiping and reflashing fresh?
from the information given i doubt there is a way to tell exactly why your system suspend is having this issue. If it happens after full/wipe/reflash, or if you are on a certain rom it may give us a little more to go by.
As for the guy flaming the person who posted that it was in the wrong section under your logic arent you just as bad as them for your post? and arent i just as bad for pointing out your post? The fact is if people ignore the fact that questions are posted int he wrong section then development will quickly be over run. Even as is with anyone who has been on the forum for a few days knowing that if you post a question in development you will likely be flamed and ridiculed there are still TONS of people that do it anyway. There is a big stickiy on top of the dev forum that says this isnt a questions and answer forum. so i dont feel bad if people are mean to them for not reading and ignoring forum rules. its how they learn for the future. Though i agree it does sometime get out of hand.

I'm using the official 2.2 rom from Sprint that I got OTA.

Running stock rom rooted, kernel suggestions?

Looking to do a slight OC and get the best battery life possible. Looked around but all similar threads are pretty old, so any good siggestions?

Lol I think your in the wrong section.
This is a question about android right???
Try asking in forum for your particular device... or let us know what device you have and I'll get this thread moved for you.
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Quiet community

I come from a very busy Blade community at Modaco where questions are answered on minutes. I was surprised to ask a question here last night and for it to still be unanswered.
Now is there another hangout where all the Defy actions at? Or should I just get used to the slower pace? Thanks guys.
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There's a fair bit going on in the Defy Themes & Apps forum & also the Defy Dev forum.
It's still a fairly new device - maybe what 6 months or so but it does seem to be taking off now.
I used to browse the Defy forum on Modaco & just been on after a few weeks break from it but it's still dead on there - only a handful of threads this month.

I know a very active german forum regarding the defy...
But i don't think it will be of much help to you unless you speak german...
Sent from my MB525

Also that most developers have got fed up with dumb questions here on xda and have decided not to post their roms in here.
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chaihg said:
Also that most developers have got fed up with dumb questions here on xda and have decided not to post their roms in here.
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Dumb questions get asked everywhere...the larger the Blade community got the worse the questions got. But you have to just ignore the idiots.

Just like for gaming: everyone was a newbie at some point... so no need for name calling here.
If you don't like the question; ignore it, don't read or don't reply to it ...
I'd rather see more "idiotic" threads than no thread at all...wasn't the topic here anyway...?
In a perfect world (read forum), every 'dumb' question would be answered with a simple thread search. But unfortunately, that doesn't always happen here.
I still have some un-answered stuff about my Moto Defy and I'm very thankful to anyone posting replies to my questions.
'Maybe' that with an increasing Defy users community here will come a better job from moderators at deleting out-of-place noobs' AND old-timmers' questions/comments in threads...
Long live this forum and long live the noobs !

I have come from the blade community also and ill be honest i dare not do owt to my defy LOL
I have tried to post in other areas of the Defy forums but i got told i was a noob and therefore not allowed to post

MrBelter said:
I have come from the blade community also and ill be honest i dare not do owt to my defy LOL
I have tried to post in other areas of the Defy forums but i got told i was a noob and therefore not allowed to post
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That's appalling. Well i'll be messing with mine as soon as i get it tomorrow and i will also be looking to port some themes over to it too. For the blade i ported and maintained 16 themes for 3 different roms.
If you have any questions once i've dived in i will help as much as possible!

battery so garbage

MY battery keeps dieing
is there ne way to last longer
any apps
or turning off nething
etc?

Have you read any of the many threads on optimization battery life?
Have you researched a rom that meets you needs and tried that?
Have you read on the kernels and which give best battery life?
Do you have an extended battery? Have you read any threads on those?
If not you are a person that should probably buy an iphone.

That's it? My battery keeps dying is the only thing you can say? My battery dies too. I was under the impression they didn't last forever. How long they last before they die is where a problem could be. Fail...you don't even deserve an answer.
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Dude, stop making threads. Seriously. Do your own damn research and if you happen to have a specific question, start a thread at that time.

There is plenty of information on here about making your battery last longer and as the previous poster said please stop cluttering up the forums with a new thread about every question you have.
Also questions go in the Q & A forum and NOT the General Forum.
If you really have questions and cant find any info by searching or looking through the forums then post a single thread with all the questions you have in the correct forum.
Thread closed as there are existing threads covering this question.
MArk.

Is this a normal battery issue or should I try a replacement?

Under my normal usage, which is very light compared to most, i can easily get 24 hours out of my battery.
After having my phone about 2 weeks, on 5 or so occasions the battery has lost its charge after 2 hours with zero usage. When i see this happening i will restart my phone and it seems to fix the issue however upon rebooting i see a major drop in battery charge. Is this a normal calibration issue or a faulty battery? Do you think i should send it back for a replacement?

I've done some >> RESEARCH for you.

Laurentius26 said:
I've done some >> RESEARCH for you.
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How does that answer the question?
The answer, IMO, is no, that is not normal but could be a rogue app, try removing some apps. Also, have you tried a factory reset?

What I try to make clear is that this is yet another battery thread started while so many threads exist.
The Op could use one of the existing threads don't you think?
It doesn't hurt if the Op does a little research first and the question is pretty obvious to my opinion.
farnsbarns said:
How does that answer the question?
The answer, IMO, is no, that is not normal but could be a rogue app, try removing some apps. Also, have you tried a factory reset?
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Laurentius26 said:
What I try to make clear is that this is yet another battery thread started while so many threads exist.
The Op could use one of the existing threads don't you think?
It doesn't hurt if the Op does a little research first and the question is pretty obvious to my opinion.
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I have looked through a couple hundred pages of battery threads. While i have seen a handfull of pictures of battery power cliffs like mine, none have seen responses that i could tell. I also posted in the "Battery Stats" thread to no avail. So after my do diligence, i started yet another battery thread.
I have not tried a factory reset. Maybe i'll give that a go.

Well, if you couldn't find it you are probably the only one and because of that
your conclusion could be that it isn't normal.
Your question is to obvious to my opinion, it doesn't make sense.
Chello02 said:
I have looked through a couple hundred pages of battery threads. While i have seen a handfull of pictures of battery power cliffs like mine, none have seen responses that i could tell. I also posted in the "Battery Stats" thread to no avail. So after my do diligence, i started yet another battery thread.
I have not tried a factory reset. Maybe i'll give that a go.
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Laurentius26 said:
What I try to make clear is that this is yet another battery thread started while so many threads exist.
The Op could use one of the existing threads don't you think?
It doesn't hurt if the Op does a little research first and the question is pretty obvious to my opinion.
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Well starting another thread... You could argue with the fact that he did his "due diligence".
Posting in an existing thread usually means 73,4% less views on a question asked. (Due to ppl know that thread and ignoring it, and means just ppl that are subscribed to it "might" reply) You could argue that he will get ppl that know more about the issue so the answers might be spot on. But as he stated he searched, so the "spot on" ppl might not be existing.
What he did "wrong" was post this in the general section even though this is a question.
However general section topics get 27,9% more views as Q&A and posting this in the General section and getting moved to Q&A after from a mod gives you 85,2% move views. So you have to admire his intelligence and cunning thinking.
So I don't get deleted as OT. @OP batteries do sometimes the craziest things . I wouldn't suspect a rogue app, rather then it didn't charge completely? Reported wrong. Try to use one charger for one week and another charging method for another week.
PS: the percentages are random numbers that popped into my head

It all depends how people respect the forum rules and other members I ques.
Of course the numbers are just random but imagine people should do a little digging/reading first,
and not open a thread for every small issue they are having?
Imagine how clean the board would be, don't you think people would look in that thread 'about the battery'?
Threads like this 80% (that's also just random but about correct I ques) end up in flaming and that's why I don't like them.
Maybe I look like a hard head to you but I'm a member for about 8 years and this trend started the last 2/3 years.
If people respect each other a little bit more, discussions like this wouldn't exist and the board contained a lot more relevant stuff making it easier for you and me to find what we are searching for.
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Well starting another thread... You could argue with the fact that he did his "due diligence".
Posting in an existing thread usually means 73,4% less views on a question asked. (Due to ppl know that thread and ignoring it, and means just ppl that are subscribed to it "might" reply) You could argue that he will get ppl that know more about the issue so the answers might be spot on. But as he stated he searched, so the "spot on" ppl might not be existing.
What he did "wrong" was post this in the general section even though this is a question.
However general section topics get 27,9% more views as Q&A and posting this in the General section and getting moved to Q&A after from a mod gives you 85,2% move views. So you have to admire his intelligence and cunning thinking.
So I don't get deleted as OT. @OP batteries do sometimes the craziest things . I wouldn't suspect a rogue app, rather then it didn't charge completely? Reported wrong. Try to use one charger for one week and another charging method for another week.
PS: the percentages are random numbers that popped into my head
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PAGOT said:
Well starting another thread... You could argue with the fact that he did his "due diligence".
Posting in an existing thread usually means 73,4% less views on a question asked. (Due to ppl know that thread and ignoring it, and means just ppl that are subscribed to it "might" reply) You could argue that he will get ppl that know more about the issue so the answers might be spot on. But as he stated he searched, so the "spot on" ppl might not be existing.
What he did "wrong" was post this in the general section even though this is a question.
However general section topics get 27,9% more views as Q&A and posting this in the General section and getting moved to Q&A after from a mod gives you 85,2% move views. So you have to admire his intelligence and cunning thinking.
So I don't get deleted as OT. @OP batteries do sometimes the craziest things . I wouldn't suspect a rogue app, rather then it didn't charge completely? Reported wrong. Try to use one charger for one week and another charging method for another week.
PS: the percentages are random numbers that popped into my head
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I actually have done this already.
Week one was on my old HTC charger, and this same thing happened every couple days. For about the last week i have been using my new HTC charger as i sold the other phone and it's still happening.
I guess my extremely obvious question is still leaning to the completely obvious replacement of the device.
Thanks for the help.

Laurentius26 said:
Imagine how clean the board would be, don't you think people would look in that thread 'about the battery'? ...
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Fair point, but not real
Laurentius26 said:
Maybe I look like a hard head to you but I'm a member for about 8 years and this trend started the last 2/3 years.
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Actually no, I love your avatar. I hate the sabret00th guy just for his idi0tic attitude fanboism and mostly his stupid avatar.
Laurentius26 said:
If people respect each other a little bit more, discussions like this wouldn't exist and the board contained a lot more relevant stuff making it easier for you and me to find what we are searching for.
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Not sure what I am quoting now. But wanted to say about the trend. For what I see (and yeah you have 2 years on me ) .Is xda-developers becoming xda-bugranters xda-brandranters. Instead of bug reports and fixes. You get 90% of posts how bad we are treated from brand X how brand Y is better.
I don't need to even check the jellybean ota thread or 4.0.4 thread. As there is literally no relevant info.
Before I could check the forums and see: hey a new ota. Now I see : hey a new ota, oh wait old thread full with ranting.
Chello02 said:
I actually have done this already.
Week one was on my old HTC charger, and this same thing happened every couple days. For about the last week i have been using my new HTC charger as i sold the other phone and it's still happening.
I guess my extremely obvious question is still leaning to the completely obvious replacement of the device.
Thanks for the help.
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Well you can try to use USB charging . Also do the factory reset as they might ask you about it in the service center.
Better to come and say you tried it, so they can rule it out and not just give it to you back with "new fw, factory reset"
I do not think they will use the phone and test how the usage is in time and if the battery isn't reporting anything abnormal.
Btw you did the *#*#4636#*#* and checked the Battery Info right?

PAGOT said:
Well you can try to use USB charging . Also do the factory reset as they might ask you about it in the service center.
Better to come and say you tried it, so they can rule it out and not just give it to you back with "new fw, factory reset"
I do not think they will use the phone and test how the usage is in time and if the battery isn't reporting anything abnormal.
Btw you did the *#*#4636#*#* and checked the Battery Info right?
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I haven't done the battery test yet. I'll do it in the morning after i get a full charge on my phone tonight.