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does it matter if i flash my phones rom deleting the old one..
basicly...
If i change the rom 1x - 10,000x will the phone still run the same or does it eat up memory and force phone to lag
razr315 said:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but I will attempt to answer what I understood.
I would recommend a nandroid backup before flashing anything over the current rom. Especially stock.
I would also do a full wipe before flashing another rom.
Does this answer your question at all?
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I asked..
Does it matter how many times you flash your phone if you wipe does it leave residual memory to eat up and lag your phone or does it not affect it at all
razr315 said:
Oh yeah, that's a good question. Id like to know that myself seeing as how I flash mine about 20 times a day...lol
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I believe it does when I went into recovery I clean not only the factory wipe but also the cache wipe but i'd be curious to know more
i have not ever noticed any issues with flashing multiple ROMs, as long as you are wiping then you should be fine and no residual issues will be found, if you choose not to wipe you will likely end up in a boot loop, or a "brick" as some call it, but those are fixable with a wipe and reflash. if someone wants to correct me then great something new i learned, but i flashed almost every ROM for the G1 and never had any issues so long as i wiped the phone
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i have not ever noticed any issues with flashing multiple ROMs, as long as you are wiping then you should be fine and no residual issues will be found, if you choose not to wipe you will likely end up in a boot loop, or a "brick" as some call it, but those are fixable with a wipe and reflash. if someone wants to correct me then great something new i learned, but i flashed almost every ROM for the G1 and never had any issues so long as i wiped the phone
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the G1 might be a bit different then the Slide hence the question
but thankyou for your input
Probobly just cache I wipe everything just in case
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Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
Hi and welcome. A couple of points I can help you with:
There are loads of roms to choose from, I am using this rom atm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
Everything on this particular rom works fine and is very fast and stable. I generally find if roms have several revisions then are are generally very good. i.e. are having continuous support and developement.
As for rooting voiding warranty? Well this is no longer an issue as rooting can easily be reversed )
Hope this helps
LEWY
thehrushi said:
Hey everyone,
I'm really new to android modding, and don't know much about all this. I'm good at modding but never been on android before. I went through the stickies and full desire guide etc threads, but its really getting confusing for me.
I've come to know some things: (correct if wrong)
1) You have some custom ROMs which you can flash after rooting the phone.
2) Most ROMs have pretty much everything working, but some things don't work on some ROMs (like camera for some)
3) Rooting voids warranty.
Seeing the vast amount of ROMs in the development section, I'm confused which one to look for. Can anyone suggest me which would be the best (stable and everything working) ROM for me? I basically need APP2SD or APP2SD+ (NOT the froyo one because its useless, I'm talking about the custom one) and minor tweaks like changing the homescreen etc.
Which would be the best suited ROM for above description? Basically, what criteria decide which ROM to put on the phone?
@Moderators, sorry if its the same old story. I'm really confused and so HAD to make a thread.
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You do indeed need to Root the device before flashing, the only ROM that don't have 'things working' is the Desire HD ROM. I am not sure if that has been fixed or not yet though. All the other AOSP and Sense based Desire ROMs have everything working just fine. Rooting will void your warranty but it's super easy to reverse so there is nothing to worry about.
The most popular ROMs by far seem to be the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs (Non-Sense ROMs), all of them will have APP2SD built into them, the Sense ROMs also have APP2SD built into them.
LeeDrOiD is by far the most popular Sense based ROM, RCMixHD is the Desire HD based ROM, which I think still doesn't have the camera working.
And by far the most popular Desire ROM overall is the ASOP Cyanogen based DeFrost.
To get the most out of APP2SD you will need to download ROM Manager and create an EXT3 partition on your SD card so the ROM will place all of the Froyo compatable apps into the partion and not your internal memory.
Being brand new to the desire, I've flashed every Rom available in the last 2 weeks.
Leedroid is a very good sense Rom. I prefer having a Rom with sense right now because this is my first HTC.
Right now I'm running the Aurax sense Rom, solely because it has its own setCPU built in.
The hd roms didn't impress me that much, not yet at least, with a little more time they will be awesome though.
The MIUI roms are also amazingly pretty, if you don't mind the iPhone feel. My only problem with it though, and I've been told this hardly happens, my battery life was pathetic.
At the end of the day though, apart from the hardware, it is android and all the available apps that make our phone so great.
All the custom roms do add a lot of speed to the phone though, you have to do a quadrant after you flash so that you can see how awesome the Rom makes your phone run. They also add additional functionality compared to the stock Rom.
Honestly, I can't see why anyone would keep any Android device stock when there are such amazing roms around. At the end of the day its all down to your own preferences and what functions you like. You'll love any Rom you flash.
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Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
thehrushi said:
Thanks for such amazing replies. Meanwhile, I've also been through many ROMs and their descriptions. The terminologies are kinda new for me, but I can understand many things now....
The only thing I care about right now is App2SD because I found FroYo's move to SD doesn't help much. Also second thing is that I'm not having MY desire yet, its my friend's device m gonna try out everything on! So I'd be taking some extra care!
One big relief is that rooting is reversible. That'd be cool.
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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It is honestly impossible to brick a desire. I bricked my MOTO backflip, there was no coming back from that. With the desire I flashed something that didn't work, but pressing volume down and power gets you right into the hbooot menu, from there just mount as usb and copy over a new Rom to flash.
The one thing you need to remember, when flashing new roms the first boot takes a while, never pull the battery thinking there's nothing happening, that will destroy your phone and there's no coming back from that.
Before every Rom you flash make sure to do a factory reset in the recovery menu, that ensures that the new Rom will work to its full capability and minimizes the chances of experiencing problems.
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thehrushi said:
What are the odds of bricking your phone while flashing or applying mods?
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You can brick your device flashing Radios, but you can always send it back to HTC, pay them an extortionate amount and they will revive it for you. But overall, the chances are slim to none in my experience.
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
Depending on the age of your desire, you shouldn't need to flash a radio though. I've never needed to flash a radio, but that's because my desire came with the latest radio, thankfully it still has the amoled screen.
If you do need to replace the radio and somehow brick it, if its still under warranty HTC will replace it for you because there is no way that they can prove you bricked the device.
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Kalavere said:
Just make sure, after rooting, you make a Nandroid backup of the OS. Then you can do whatever you like to the phone and it will be reversable.
I keep a Nandroid of my DeFrost ROM, and one of my PaysROM, and I have one of my MoDaCo R8, you can switch between them just using Recovery, as the mood takes you, absolutely everything will be exactly as it was everytime you load the backup back onto the phone, I just wipe the cache, Dalvik Cache, factory reset the ROM then reinstall whichever ROM I want to use (DeFrost, PaysROM etc etc) from the SD card and then backup from the Nandroid.
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Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
thehrushi said:
Wow that means you install a ROM, make settings you want, put in your data (phonebook etc) and then take a full backup. Switching between them is as easy as restoring a backup!
Is that right?
Initially, I'd be trying out ROMs, and would stick to the one which suits me best. I just can't wait before my desire arrives this monthend!!
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It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
Kalavere said:
It saves everything, app data, messages, settings, the lot. Although when switching ROMs I still factory reset, wipe the caches and reinstall the ROM I want to use before loading the backup of that specific ROM. I am not sure things will go so smoothly if you just reload the backups without factory resetting and reinstalling the ROM first, but it won't hurt to try.
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Exactly!
Ever since I started flashing ROMs, I never did a full wipe before (because of my laziness to get all my data back). Most of the time, the end results were fine and if it didn't work, i'd just restore and try another ROM. Sometimes though, the ROM would be just fine except the wifi doesn't scan or 4g doesn't work anymore or HTC widgets FC all the time. Why is it that this happens and will there ever be a fix without a full wipe?
* This is just a question I have. I do full wipe now before every ROM. *
desiprince92 said:
Ever since I started flashing ROMs, I never did a full wipe before (because of my laziness to get all my data back). Most of the time, the end results were fine and if it didn't work, i'd just restore and try another ROM. Sometimes though, the ROM would be just fine except the wifi doesn't scan or 4g doesn't work anymore or HTC widgets FC all the time. Why is it that this happens and will there ever be a fix without a full wipe?
* This is just a question I have. I do full wipe now before every ROM. *
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Try to think of your disk space as a linear thing with five blocks occupying the same space each.
|a|b|c|d|e|
Now, say you flash ROM X on your device and it takes up enough space to cover blocks a, b, c, and d.
|X|X|X|X|e|
Let's say you don't like how ROM X operates, and prefer the look of ROM Y from the screen shots you see. ROM Y uses less space and different apps, so it only takes up blocks a, b, and c.
|Y|Y|Y|X|e
Now your system has to interpret which of these leftover files from ROM X actually belong in there, and which are just pieces of information left over. Since there isn't a way for he ROM to do this, it will see and try to understand what these leftover pieces do and incorporate them into the file system as best it can. This may mean that these files are parts of other applications that are already installed on the new ROM, so they are only partially overwritten.
This is the best I can explain this, and is the reason that most people recommend that you do a full wipe, or task29 for some people, before flashing a new ROM. This is less important for ROMs that are exactly the same as the one before and are only and update to the previous version. When switching between completely different ROMs, it is always important to do this to avoid "ghosting" or "phantom" issues that other users are not reporting.
desiprince92 said:
Ever since I started flashing ROMs, I never did a full wipe before (because of my laziness to get all my data back). Most of the time, the end results were fine and if it didn't work, i'd just restore and try another ROM. Sometimes though, the ROM would be just fine except the wifi doesn't scan or 4g doesn't work anymore or HTC widgets FC all the time. Why is it that this happens and will there ever be a fix without a full wipe?
* This is just a question I have. I do full wipe now before every ROM. *
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Will there be roms that don't need a full wipe? Yes. Will a full wipe ever be not needed? No. This is the price you pay for flashing roms. If you don't like setting things up all over again then find a rom you like and stick with it.
I downlaoded lifeless and wipped everything last night so i lost all my stuff
not a big deal normally.. unless the rom wont stop rebooting when my data connects..
so i get home and i get Vectus Rom..and now its not staying on it keeps shutting down?,i have used both of these roms before
i was recently on MIUI but i was going to update my PRLs and profile and what not and then reflash MIUI...
but I cant seem to find a stock rom to keep on...what should i do? or should i just try a stock stock rom which is downloading now...its going to take forever tho..any help would be awesome.
Mr nerd said:
I downlaoded lifeless and wipped everything last night so i lost all my stuff
not a big deal normally.. unless the rom wont stop rebooting when my data connects..
so i get home and i get Vectus Rom..and now its not staying on it keeps shutting down?,i have used both of these roms before
i was recently on MIUI but i was going to update my PRLs and profile and what not and then reflash MIUI...
but I cant seem to find a stock rom to keep on...what should i do? or should i just try a stock stock rom which is downloading now...its going to take forever tho..any help would be awesome.
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can maybe try restoring your stock backup the flash a normal kernel...or even reflash the rom itself on top of it...are you restoring anything with titanium or any other restore methods? especially data or system data...system stuff always a nono but normal apps are most of the time ok but the data is iffy....did you have to change any of your data settings when jumpng to miui? like i seen you have to change settings to lte/gsm/cdma... since we dont use gsm that might be an issue on a stock rom... you need to change it back to lte/cdma auto i think and it will hook you up to your carrier properly........hope it helps
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can maybe try restoring your stock backup the flash a normal kernel...or even reflash the rom itself on top of it...are you restoring anything with titanium or any other restore methods? especially data or system data...system stuff always a nono but normal apps are most of the time ok but the data is iffy....did you have to change any of your data settings when jumpng to miui? like i seen you have to change settings to lte/gsm/cdma... since we dont use gsm that might be an issue on a stock rom... you need to change it back to lte/cdma auto i think and it will hook you up to your carrier properly........hope it helps
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none of that will help if the roms keep shutting down or rebooting.. that is the problem not the data..? did you even read the op?
thanks i just used teenybin to restore it seems like the phone isnt charging on Vectus...
Mr nerd said:
none of that will help if the roms keep shutting down or rebooting.. that is the problem not the data..? did you even read the op?
thanks i just used teenybin to restore it seems like the phone isnt charging on Vectus...
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Wow OK um yeah I read it.. You say it reboots once data connects.. Right? So that's what my attempt to help you was based on. And with the final question/statement you made that is Where my help ends...
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Ok here it goes. my network service is off so i use my droin inc for games and such. running custom rom wildstang83 IceCream Scencless 1.0. im not sure what happened to my phone but i left for 3 days and come back to my phone being totally jacked up. It wot dl apps the google play reverted back to the old market icon. wont save my passwords for google sighn in. every time i go to youtube it says to re dl the google play services. im sure other stuff is messed up too. i have tried to flash another rom but when it gets loaded back up it keeps saying process. whatever failed and there a bunch of those that loop and i have to pull battery. when i try to factory reset it says everything was formatted but when i reboot phone its the sme as it was before apps and all. So is there anyone out there who can help me with this. Sorry if i posted in the wrong place or what not. i wasnt sure where to post it cuz its kinda an advanced question but not really a question just need help.
not a virus but it does sound like your phone might have exhausted all the space in the /data folder. I had a similar thing happen to me before I rooted and fixed my phone where i exhausted the space, itt went a factory reset and put the phone into an unusable state.
i don;t know anything about the rom you are running but are rooted and have CWM installed? if so, you should be able flash a new ROM to your device, GAPPS and optionally, the low space disk fix.
tekweezle said:
not a virus but it does sound like your phone might have exhausted all the space in the /data folder. I had a similar thing happen to me before I rooted and fixed my phone where i exhausted the space, itt went a factory reset and put the phone into an unusable state.
i don;t know anything about the rom you are running but are rooted and have CWM installed? if so, you should be able flash a new ROM to your device, GAPPS and optionally, the low space disk fix.
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Yes i do have cwm but i tried to flash a new rom via the recovery section. after i choose the zip to flash everything goes as expected untill after the reboot and it goes into the setup part where u have to put gmail password and stuff in then it basically freezes up with unlimited process failures. but i will try again. cant hurt from where it is now.
if you are not doing so already, i would wipe cache and dalvik cache after flashing the rom. that may fix the FCs.
I would also suggest you run a newer jelly bean ROM like Tiny;s 5-16 with his version of GAPPS(4-05) version plus the low space disk fix so you can maintain parity with what is the latest.
I am currently using evervolve 6-25 and it is working well for me.
the reason I say that is these newer JB roms have the ability to let you skip the activation easily. I don;t know if it was some feature of GB roms but the activation wizard in the JB roms seem to be better my opinion.
When switching to a different ROM, it is crucial to wipe /system. This can be a source of FCs. Also, if switching, it is also a good idea to do factory reset.
tekweezle said:
if you are not doing so already, i would wipe cache and dalvik cache after flashing the rom. that may fix the FCs.
I would also suggest you run a newer jelly bean ROM like Tiny;s 5-16 with his version of GAPPS(4-05) version plus the low space disk fix so you can maintain parity with what is the latest.
I am currently using evervolve 6-25 and it is working well for me.
the reason I say that is these newer JB roms have the ability to let you skip the activation easily. I don;t know if it was some feature of GB roms but the activation wizard in the JB roms seem to be better my opinion.
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I just flashed another rom i used in the past by the same dev and so this is my step by step. 1. choose zip from sd. 2. factory reset. 3. wipe dalvik cache. 4. wipe cache partition. If this doesnt work i will try jb roms but i would hate to have to dump the dev that im useing. there the most stabe roms i have come across so far
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When switching to a different ROM, it is crucial to wipe /system. This can be a source of FCs. Also, if switching, it is also a good idea to do factory reset.
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what do u mean wipe /system. where do i find that. only reason i ask is cuz maybe ive never done that. but i have never had a problem withthe other 15 roms i have flashed before so thats why im so confused about what happened to my phone. all i did was shut it off and leave it home. nothing changed from my daily use before that and it was working top notch before i shut it off
im getting settings fc. youtube fc, my uploads fc, market fc, clock widget fc, internet fc, rss reader fc, htc sence fc, all those off of a fresh flash ad new sd card
Just lost my bckups that were saved on sd card so now i cant even get on it i dont get it. its not bricked but yet it i unstabe to run any rom but the preivious saved backup (now there deleted)
maybe the rom you downloaded is corrupt. worst case scenerio is that your phone is on it;s last legs.....
i would suggest you try downloading the JB rom and Gapps plus the low space fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050930
it;s kind of proven to work in my opinion. the 5-16 build is pretty stable.
what I do is flash the rom zip, gapps zip and low space zip, then wipe cache and dalvik. it probably should not make a difference but I am using TWRP as my recovery instead of CWM.
goodluck!
tekweezle said:
maybe the rom you downloaded is corrupt. worst case scenerio is that your phone is on it;s last legs.....
i would suggest you try downloading the JB rom and Gapps plus the low space fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050930
it;s kind of proven to work in my opinion. the 5-16 build is pretty stable.
what I do is flash the rom zip, gapps zip and low space zip, then wipe cache and dalvik. it probably should not make a difference but I am using TWRP as my recovery instead of CWM.
goodluck!
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Thank u and its still not working. probably just takeing a dump on me now it is just bootlooping.
when i do a factory reset i get a wipe completed. but it says "no app2sd partition found. Skipping format of /sd-ext" could that be part of the issue?? ive never noticed that before
i don;t know if switching to TWRP might help you but it might be worth a try. maybe a coincidence but the last time I had a screw up on my Dinc installing a ROM, i was using CWM. I switch right after that. I think i did read something about TWRP specifically supporting the EXT4 Low space fix.
maybe someone more knowledgable can chime in.
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i don;t know if switching to TWRP might help you but it might be worth a try. maybe a coincidence but the last time I had a screw up on my Dinc installing a ROM, i was using CWM. I switch right after that. I think i did read something about TWRP specifically supporting the EXT4 Low space fix.
maybe someone more knowledgable can chime in.
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i will try it but it is doing the same thing on every rom i have tried to flash. ive tried 6 different roms so far and i have ran them all in the past so im incined to think its jacked. and is there a specific twrp for the different roms or can i just dl the latest version and it will work