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gone a bit laggy

when I got my desire it was super fast (anything is compared to the hero)
however ive noticed that over time it has become a little laggy when live wallpapers are running
i have very little running in the background as far as I can tell
the screen movements dont seem as smooth
ive still got 50+mb of program memory left
the only things i have running in the background are
weather and toggle widgets
seepu (processor monitor program)
Gmail counter (screen widgets)
messaging counter (screen widgets)
I also have the following installed
advanced task killer
appbrain market sync
appremover
explorer
ezcam
google service
google translate
mixzing
moodpaper
navigon
oi file manager
onoff widget pack
places directory
pkt auction ebay
shop savvy
spotify
skype
trafficintel
traintimes
xda
i have done a hard reset and it still is sometimes laggy ... gets worse when i install programs ... ive tried to work out which is causing the lag but have give up
any idea#s
i regularly flush the cache also
its still faster that my hero however its annyoying that it appears to get slow
perhaps ive got use to the speed and now want faster speeds however thought id ask if anyone else is having problems

I never use live wallpapers, it makes it slow. You also have lag without live wallpaper on? And I think its very easy to get used to the speed.
I hope we get some update soon (or even the 2.2 eventually) and see some nice speed improvements.
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Live wallpapers altogether make my phone laggy. The nexus live wallpaper seems OKAY though. And yeah, 2.2 will hopefully fix the lag.
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I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.

scotch whisky said:
I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.
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+1 Completely agree.
ATK is the most likely cause of the slowdown.

yeah mine lags only when a) I use live wallpaper (which I dont anymore)
and b) when its installing an app after downloading (for a few seconds) other than that its fine.although I do wish for a fix in the new 2.2 or something

i agree live wallpapers slow mine down a bit (although nexus one seems ok)

I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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I use it too and I don't feel as if it slows down.

jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????

lambrospower said:
where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????
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just search for nexus one live wallpaper in the market. it's there.

[Q] Anyone Noticed Home Screen Lag?

Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere but I couldnt find it.
Q1. Has anyone experienced clicking the Home button from another app or from the app drawer and seeing just the wallpaper for a few moments until the home screen widgets, folder and shortcuts are redrawn?
Q2. Also, Has anyone noticed lag when scrolling between home screens if a Live Wallpaper is used? I notice some live wallpapers make scrolling worse than some others.
If this has been posted, let me know?

Yes to Q1.
Also had lock up in gallery with a spinning circle and nothing happening.

Yes to Q2. All of the live wallpapers except one cause lag. Quite disappointing.

Yes I've noticed this which is quite disappointing considering everything is meant to be GPU accelerated and butter smooth in an iPhone-esque manner, general navigation doesn't seem any different to my HD2. Hopefully software updates can overcome these issues.

It's good to know I don't have a faulty handset but its a shame that its not as smooth as the early reviews lead me to believe (although it is very smooth once in the app drawer and other places).
Does anyone know any impressive Live Wallpapers that have little or no detrimental effect on Home Screen lag? I find Koi Free quite impressive without causing much noticeable lag (but its a bit old hat now, so I'd like something different).

Yeah I find it very hard to work out how The Verge could've given it such a high score, software in particular, and called it "blazing fast".
It's good, but it doesn't feel very fast to me.

I'm very disappointed by the live wallpaper lag, i thought ICS completely diminished any lag in the OS
all the live wallpapers make the scrolling look historic except for the one: PHASE BEAM
that one is as smooth as a picture wallpaper
anyone else? hopefully its easily fixable in a future general maintenece OTA or some custom roms

if you guys are using third party wallpapers then they probably were never updated to enable the hardware exceleration.
if your using the built in, then thats totally unacceptable IMO and is very upsetting since i was looking forward to having a device that will actually be able to run LWPs.

neok44 said:
if you guys are using third party wallpapers then they probably were never updated to enable the hardware exceleration.
if your using the built in, then thats totally unacceptable IMO and is very upsetting since i was looking forward to having a device that will actually be able to run LWPs.
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I have tryed the ones that came with with phone and sadly it is not smooth also.
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It feels like my Sensation with a 3rd party launcher. =(
Still love the phone but this wasn't supposed to happen.

i read in the endaget review that not all live wallpapers are HW accelerated - as of right now only "Phase Beam" (the default) one is.
Which is why you should notice theres no lag on the Phase Beam Live wallpaper (at least not for me), whereas stuff like "Nexus" live wallpaper will seem to lag
This is the paragraph i read:
"Not all the live wallpapers are fully optimized (for example, Phase Beam is, but Water isn't). Developers have to add a single line of code to their apps to take advantage of 2D hardware acceleration -- you're able to enable this as the default for all apps by checking "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer Options."
So apparently its just one line of code that devs need to add in for their apps - granted, these are GOOGLE wallpapers so im not sure why they just didnt add it in themselves.
But this also adds to the Developer options of "Force 2D rendering" - although im not sure if this will help the unoptimized live wallpaper lag
just my 2cents

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I also sometimes get lag when launching the app drawer.
Scrolling widgets also seems so stutter slightly as well.
Glad to know its not just my handset, but dissapointed as well. My GS2 was buttery smooth everywhere

Well, this is disappointing. It's a pretty basic part of the user experience, one that you'd think Google would spend a lot of time on. My GS1 running 2.3.4 suffers from refilling the launcher when I return to the home screen. I was hoping the SGN with ICS would end that experience. You guys running a lot of apps? Maybe there's something in common between those affected that isn't experienced by everyone. Will be watching this thread.

Noticed it straight after first boot, amount of apps has nothing to do with it, at least for me.

Anyone tried different launchers. Different launchers play a big role in Android user experience and smoothness. I don't think any custom launcher has hardware acceleration enabled yet, but it would be worth a shot.
It is also unacceptable that the default stock Live Wallpapers from Google weren't updated to utilize the hardware acceleration. HWA is the main feature of ICS that everyone was waiting for. EVERYTHING on the Galaxy Nexus should be setup for HWA. No excuses.
On a side note, all of my phones lagged a little when using LWPs. Even my fast G2x. The SGS2 had hardware acceleration enabled... so it could just be the launcher.

adw launcher FTW.

enable 2d doesnt fix it
has this been opened as an issue in the google aosp page

Hmm. This reminds me of the first time I took my Nexus S out of the box..
Just wait for some custom roms and such, google are apparantly horrible at optimizing performance.

I have a feeling that using GPU acceleration to certain wallpapers would cause the phone to become unstable or something, like how forcing GPU acceleration has been reported to cause instability. Google probably disabled it while they quietly work on the issue.
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perhaps
but the one live wallpaper works WONDERFULLY

Issues with Scrolling

Hey Guys,
New to GNex community..
I was using SGS2 and switched to GNex just yesterday.. quite happy with it..
I have observed that the Page/App scrolling on ICS is not as fast as it was on Gingerbread, especially in Applications like Facebook and few others..
Is this an issue with ICS or is it that the Apps are still not properly compatible with ICS.
any fix or workaround for this ?

Developer options force gpu acceleration
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I think if you force gpu it fixes it. I don't even have a nexus so I really don't know for sure. Also its actually an apo thing, once gb apps are updated for ics, the problem will be fixed.
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ChongoDroid said:
Developer options force gpu acceleration
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u mean to enable Force GPU rendering ?
will give that a try...

personally i dont find force gpu fixes scrolling for me, it actually makes scrolling worse mostly. Those choppy apps still just need updates i think to ICS like facebook. Perfect example is twitter. It scrolled very choppy and just finally got updated and now smooth like the stock apps.

RogerPodacter said:
personally i dont find force gpu fixes scrolling for me, it actually makes scrolling worse mostly. Those choppy apps still just need updates i think to ICS like facebook. Perfect example is twitter. It scrolled very choppy and just finally got updated and now smooth like the stock apps.
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Twitter was always laggy for me, until I turned on "Force GPU Rendering". Yes the new update fixed it so we don't need to enable this but still.

RogerPodacter said:
personally i dont find force gpu fixes scrolling for me, it actually makes scrolling worse mostly. Those choppy apps still just need updates i think to ICS like facebook. Perfect example is twitter. It scrolled very choppy and just finally got updated and now smooth like the stock apps.
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Same here. This and battery life are the two most debated "problems" with this device. From what I understand 4.0.3/4 are much better in this regard.
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Delay in menu selection?

I'm runnin stock Nexus with Nova launcher, just noticed that there's a slight delay upon selecting a menu option.
Here's what i mean....
Say you're in the SETTINGS menu, when i select one of the sub menus e.g Sound/Display/Storage/Battery. When i click on it, it highlights it in blue while i press it, but when i let go it kind of fades out slowly, like theres a transition on it, meaning there is a slight delay in opening the menu. It's really annoying, because the phone is lightning quick, but then this happens, it's like the GPU can't cope with the transition/fade effect when you select the sub menu option.
I've turned all transition effects off in Nova Launcher to see if that's what was affecting it, but it's not. Is this meant to happen?
Thanks

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I'm runnin stock Nexus with Nova launcher, just noticed that there's a slight delay upon selecting a menu option.
Here's what i mean....
Say you're in the SETTINGS menu, when i select one of the sub menus e.g Sound/Display/Storage/Battery. When i click on it, it highlights it in blue while i press it, but when i let go it kind of fades out slowly, like theres a transition on it, meaning there is a slight delay in opening the menu. It's really annoying, because the phone is lightning quick, but then this happens, it's like the GPU can't cope with the transition/fade effect when you select the sub menu option.
I've turned all transition effects off in Nova Launcher to see if that's what was affecting it, but it's not. Is this meant to happen?
Thanks
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yeah everybody has that. doesn't matter what rom/kernel you run.
google kinda ****ed up here.

I think its something that google can tweak in an update...hopefully.

Same
Same, I didn't notice this on a SGS2 video running ICS though...
Except this problem isn't just Nova Launcher its just the settings and menu in general

Seriously??? It takes 1/2 a second! Is that really toooooo slow?!!
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mps83 said:
I'm runnin stock Nexus with Nova launcher, just noticed that there's a slight delay upon selecting a menu option.
Here's what i mean....
Say you're in the SETTINGS menu, when i select one of the sub menus e.g Sound/Display/Storage/Battery. When i click on it, it highlights it in blue while i press it, but when i let go it kind of fades out slowly, like theres a transition on it, meaning there is a slight delay in opening the menu. It's really annoying, because the phone is lightning quick, but then this happens, it's like the GPU can't cope with the transition/fade effect when you select the sub menu option.
I've turned all transition effects off in Nova Launcher to see if that's what was affecting it, but it's not. Is this meant to happen?
Thanks
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In Settings -> Developer options, enable "force GPU rendering". It does increase graphics benchmarks by about 20%, and removes some of the UI sluggishness even with stock images. I'd also recommend you to use foxhound beta 0.1 of 4.0.4 android along with leankernel - no delays whatsoever

YEah this kinda bothers me too. Seems like Android can't really handle serveral 2D transitions at the same time...
I really hate the fact that the Android team at Google doesn't an eye for the small details, which are a big deal. This little transition in the settings meny gives away a huuge part of the experience. Some may say im overreacting, but hey just my thoughts..

retskrad said:
I really hate the fact that the Android team at Google doesn't an eye for the small details, which are a big deal.
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I could not concur with this more. ICS is nice, but it is VERY unpolished. There are little annoying bugs/quirks everywhere and, while I know early adopters tend to pay the price for doing so, all these little issues are mostly unacceptable for a 4.0-level release on a flagship device.

retskrad said:
I really hate the fact that the Android team at Google doesn't an eye for the small details, which are a big deal.
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You can definitely tell they're moving in this direction with the changes from 2.3 to 4.0 though. They're clearly trying to push towards a cleaner, thought-out experience across the device. Its just going to take some time for the old habits to die.

I truly think its just something google could fix in an update to the settings activities. Hopefully google doesnt ignore it though. The hardware is easily capable.

martonikaj said:
You can definitely tell they're moving in this direction with the changes from 2.3 to 4.0 though. They're clearly trying to push towards a cleaner, thought-out experience across the device. Its just going to take some time for the old habits to die.
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Yeah exactly, people often forget how new Android is.
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anterus said:
In Settings -> Developer options, enable "force GPU rendering". It does increase graphics benchmarks by about 20%, and removes some of the UI sluggishness even with stock images. I'd also recommend you to use foxhound beta 0.1 of 4.0.4 android along with leankernel - no delays whatsoever
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In the same options, disable the transitions. this in aokp b27, gives no sluggishness at all!
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anterus said:
In Settings -> Developer options, enable "force GPU rendering". It does increase graphics benchmarks by about 20%, and removes some of the UI sluggishness even with stock images. I'd also recommend you to use foxhound beta 0.1 of 4.0.4 android along with leankernel - no delays whatsoever
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your first advice is completely pointless imho. That option is there to force third party apps that don't explicitly ask for 2d acceleration. All of the ics menus and all google apps already use gpu acceleration.
I think the problem is with the gpu. Menus and nav button transitions are MUCH smoother on my HP touchpad running cm9.
I agree with trying out 4.0.4 though. People say it's much improved in this regard. Paul's 4.0.4 is very popular.

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In the same options, disable the transitions.
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Thank you for this. My phone feels much faster now.

[Q] Noticeable Lag When Using

Hey guys,
I've noticed lags and stutters a lot more than I feel I should with a device this powerful. A few areas where I've occasionally seen it:
- Typing on the keyboard
- Multitasking with certain apps (somewhat understandable)
- Recent apps menu
- Opening certain apps
Perhaps I've been a little spoiled in that I'm coming from the Nexus 5 with a lightweight rom, but just a few things I've noticed.
Anyone else noticing some lag? Are there any settings you've tweaked to minimize this lag?
Thanks!

Recent apps and keyboard have always been slow on Touchwiz unfortunately...so for app switching I use Switchr Pro (amazing app btw) and Google keyboard which is always fast as well. You can turn animations off in developer options but yeah, I used a Moto X 2nd Gen for two weeks and that thing is waaaaay faster and smoother than any Samsung I've ever used but I prefer the features that the S Pen brings so I deal with the occasional lag here and there lol

Thanks for the response Composi. A agree, the software value adds like multi-window and s-pen definitely out-weight the occasional lag. This is my second "Stock" Samsung device (had the S3 years back and g-nex) but my first Note device. I'll try your suggestion and use the google keyboard and check out Switchr Pro. Definitely a fantastic phone though and for the power a features it gives me I'm willing to live with the lag.

I have never experienced this much lag and stutter. It's unfortunate but I am experiencing everything you are...

There's the occasional spastic scrolling in the browser, which I don't get. My Note 3 was pretty bad regarding this and the only browsers that would scroll smoothly were Chrome Beta and Opera. At least with the Note 4 it seems to be mostly gone. Strange though how Samsung can't solve this.
The SMS app also stutters a tiny bit, but the Note 3 stuttered like crazy when scrolling through a long conversation. It's not enough to bother me though with this newest handset.
I don't see the specific issues you mention though, OP.

I definitely notice more lag than I'd like or thought I would be, then I look at my RAM and I'm using up over 2GB of 2.7 GB, that's just background stuff! There's so much background processes running from, well, I don't really know but root would be nice to get rid of some of this crap; I've even disabled a lot of stuff. Whats running:
Quick Connect Interactive
Dropbox
TeslaUndrea
Evernote
com.sec.android.app.Smart
DeviceTest
ClipboardUIService
Direct pen input
Fingerprints
Beam Service
Smartcard service
Context Service
Google Play Service
Google play services
S Finder
S Health
Samsung Push Service
SoundAlive
Google Search
Syncronize
Weather
Facebook
com.sec.android.app.FalshBarservice
MyScript Resource Manager
Smart Remote
SwiftKey

I have also had 2 random reboots in less than 1 day. Maybe disabling bloat messes with things

I only experience lag when I press the recent apps button. Other than that, there isn't any lag on my Note 4.

Since I installed apex launcher I haven't noticed any lag except for a little keyboard lag when inputting the contact I want to text in the messaging app

Do you guys have power saving turned on? If you do check in that settings menu and if you have restrict performance on that turns the processor down at all times. I think that's a bug. If you just turn that part off the phone works great. Spent all night diagnosing that one.

You know what raiu, I do have PowerSaving mode on. I was under the impression that it needed to be toggled on for the auto-enable at x% to work. Turns out it doesn't. I would image this will fix my slight lag issue, and all fix the ridiculously good battery life I have seen since getting the phone.