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OK so this is bigger than the title I think but I can't be the only person with this issue.
Here in the UK I use the East Coast Mainline train service into and out of London. On that service they offer free wifi and having used it time and time again, it works OK.
But my Desire doesn't like it.
The service works by letting you connect and then redirecting your browser to a log on page where you need to enter your registered email address. Again on other devices this works fine
But on the Desire I am getting an error on the redirect saying that there is a problem with the server. From my laptop, I am having no problem reaching the server to log on.
So I can't use the service.
Now my guess is that the browser is somehow trying to render a mobile version of the page or something so I have tried both the built in browser and Dolphin HD but still the same error.
Now I know that some other hot spots use similar redirected web pages so maybe this is a problem with them. I have not come across any others yet so don't know.
So have anybody else come across this either on the trains I use or with hot spots in general and if so, is there a work around?
Thanks
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious but have you put Dolphin into Desktop mode when you tried it?
aljwatson69 said:
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious but have you put Dolphin into Desktop mode when you tried it?
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From what I can see, this is the default setting (I assume you mean the "Mobile view (GWT)" setting)
Has this got something to do with the desire not having proxy support?
Have the same issues in hotels but my iPhone connects no problem.
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Not quie. If you press Menu and go to "More", and then click "Settings", there is an option called "User Agent". You can change this to Android, iPhone or Desktop. I'd give Desktop mode a go if it's not already on there.
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Not quie. If you press Menu and go to "More", and then click "Settings", there is an option called "User Agent". You can change this to Android, iPhone or Desktop. I'd give Desktop mode a go if it's not already on there.
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It's worth a try
Has this got something to do with the desire not having proxy support?
Have the same issues in hotels but my iPhone connects no problem.
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I think most paid for hot spots use these browser redirects when you first connect. I don't think it's a proxy thing though because you would have similar issues on some browsers on laptops etc
Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Yeah, just double checked I gave the right instructions and it's definitely in there.
Can't find that option in settings anywhere! Is in in the menu option when in the browser?
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Yeah, just double checked I gave the right instructions and it's definitely in there.
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Not on mine either, are you using a custom Rom?
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eltigroUK said:
Not on mine either, are you using a custom Rom?
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No, but you know we were talking about the Dolphin HD browser, not the standard one? Sorry if there was any confusion.
It's certainly showing as an option for me so I will give this a try next week and see if it makes a difference.
The problem however is not so much not being able to connect but how the Desire behaves when it finds an open wifi connection with no internet.
What I see is that the device associates to the wifi and gets an IP address.
Because it now has a live wifi connection, it stops using cellular data (3G, GPRS etc).
But because that wifi connection does not allow onwards connection to the internet (because I can't log in via the web page), nothing syncs! So for the duration of the train journey, the phone is not syncing mail etc.
The work around here is to remember to turn off the wifi before I get on the train and back on when I get off but that's a pain to remember each time.
I tried changing the user agent to Desktop (on default browser) as described here but had same problem trying to connect.
http://lifehacker.com/5547037/change-the-user-agent-on-an-android-phone
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Long time lurker and have registered to try and help you out.
I had no problem with other phones on East Coast WiFi until trying to connect with my Desire.
After some messing around this is what you can do;
Try to connect as normal on the default browser and you'll receive the certificate error.
Clear that and input httpwwweastcoastwifi.train/ into the address bar. As it won't let me post links insert the usual Internet punctuation.
You'll then be able to log into the welcome screen as normal and access the internet.
Save the above address as a bookmark to save typing it in each time.
Strangely the access in the East Coast Lounges don't folllow this malarkey and you can just access the Internet without inputting any user details.
Hope it works for you.
Pete
PeteMc99 said:
Long time lurker and have registered to try and help you out.
I had no problem with other phones on East Coast WiFi until trying to connect with my Desire.
After some messing around this is what you can do;
Try to connect as normal on the default browser and you'll receive the certificate error.
Clear that and input httpwwweastcoastwifi.train/ into the address bar. As it won't let me post links insert the usual Internet punctuation.
You'll then be able to log into the welcome screen as normal and access the internet.
Save the above address as a bookmark to save typing it in each time.
Strangely the access in the East Coast Lounges don't folllow this malarkey and you can just access the Internet without inputting any user details.
Hope it works for you.
Pete
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Good man
I was on the train again today and even messing about with the agent ID, no joy. I did spot the certificate error though so wonder if the Desire is not happy with that.
In the meantime I have tried the phone on other hot spots that have a browser log on screen and it has worked fine.
So it looks like East Coast has an odd setup but I am back on the train on Tuesday morning so will try the above then and report back
Many thanks
No problem, hope it works on Tuesday.
It works!!!!
Thank you so much for this.
In the end, I ended up setting up a bookmark for the URL you gave (eastcoastwifi.train) and then going straight for that. This then avoids the need to cancel the invalid certificate first.
As soon as I clicked said bookmark, I was presented with the correct East Coast log on screen and then bingo. Free WiFi
Of course I had forgotten just how slow it was on the train but never mind.
Again. Many many thanks
Pleased to hear it worked, I wonder many Desire users have just given up! As for the speed on East Coast, I suppose the best thing you can say is that its free and there's usually a 3G reception if all else fails unlike West Coast.
Looking for a GPS tracker to track one of the kids haha. I know it is a little unethical but I got over that.
It would be cool to be able to track her on my phone, but I could do with a web interface need be (these things access the internet as well, right?)
It would probably need to lock or hide itself in the app drawer (I rather have it hidden.) She would probably throw a fit otherwise. I don't mind paying for the right app.
Don't lie. You're trying to sneak it onto your woman's phone. LOL. I'm interested in this too.
lillee3377 said:
Don't lie. You're trying to sneak it onto your woman's phone. LOL. I'm interested in this too.
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I could just try a bunch, but that seems like a lot of work
Doesn't sprint already have GPS tracking for anyone on their family plan?
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Doesn't sprint already have GPS tracking for anyone on their family plan?
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Yup. It's their Family Locator service. $5 a month.
https://sfl.sprintpcs.com/finder-sprint-family/welcome.htm
I think any app that acts as a constant "tracker" will kill the battery in no time.
A few options come to mind; Lookout Mobile Security (extremely accurate the few times i've tested it) or Google Latitude - less accurate but can be configured using wifi+gps....
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Doesn't sprint already have GPS tracking for anyone on their family plan?
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Yup. It's their Family Locator service. $5 a month.
https://sfl.sprintpcs.com/finder-sprint-family/welcome.htm
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Yeah....I just hate to pay extra when there are all these awesome apps that are potentially free.
I think I have found what I am looking for though.
Family GPS Tracker
Simple interface, not really a tracker but will be fine for what I need to use it for. Best of all you can change the update frequency so the app isn't phoning home constantly and destroying the battery.
Now I just need to find a way to hide the app haha.
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I think any app that acts as a constant "tracker" will kill the battery in no time.
A few options come to mind; Lookout Mobile Security (extremely accurate the few times i've tested it) or Google Latitude - less accurate but can be configured using wifi+gps....
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Sorry, tracker might be a bit of an overstatement. I don't really need tracking more so just location updating every now and then.
lookout mobile was free but i guess they have a premiuim version. 29.99 for a year. it has GPS tracking but it has to be used by logging on to their website to track, like family locator. i luckily have been using it since windows mobile days so i get the premiuim features for free
The best one I think is mobile defense and it hides itself the only thing is it sends a text when it connects so to get around that you'll need handcent sms and just blacklist the number it texts from that's how I track my girl lmao
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i use google latitude, its very good and its free. it even shows a picture of where the phone's @ with the address.
djcro said:
i use google latitude, its very good and its free. it even shows a picture of where the phone's @ with the address.
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latitude would be a good option if the person never opened it, lol. as soon as they do, they could turn it off, hide themselves, or just set it to a hard location ("i'm going to jessica's, dad", set's latitude for jessica's house, then is over to brad's tra la la la la)
if she had a custom ROM on her phone, you could make launcher pro the default home, then hide latitude from the app drawer. unless she's savvy, she wouldn't think about it. latitude should update.
of course, if you're going to go that way, you could use any one of several things and just hide them from the app drawer.
Safety
I would like to suggest this kind of innovative idea with regards to android phone application, in which you are able to monitor your love ones wherever they go. In addition you can use this app for your safety and protection of your family and it is the only application that has a direct access to the emergency response center. For more information please try to check their website: safekidzone.com or SafeTREC.com
Ninja Tracker
michaelvibe said:
Looking for a GPS tracker to track one of the kids haha. I know it is a little unethical but I got over that.
It would be cool to be able to track her on my phone, but I could do with a web interface need be (these things access the internet as well, right?)
It would probably need to lock or hide itself in the app drawer (I rather have it hidden.) She would probably throw a fit otherwise. I don't mind paying for the right app.
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I would recommend the Ninja Tracker - when my son passed his driving test I was always worrying about him so we now have one of these in his car (he knows it is there) and I often use it to check he has arrived safely at his destination etc... Also popped one in my daughters bag when we went to a music festival last year - just for peace of mind really - meant that she could have more freedom to wander off with her friends but at such a packed venue we could find her easily by logging into our interface via my iphone. Fab bit of kit at a reasonable price - company I bought it from was called Ninja Tracking Systems I think... Google them.
http://wheresmydroid.com/
I use this. It also allows me to erase the contents should the enemy get my phone.
I can suggest Fameelee - Family Locator. It's a free app avaiable on Google Play and recently launched on Appstore. It allows to track realtime location of the family members as well as to check location history for the past 30 days. Within premium version you may track sms and call logs of the loved ones. It works in background so mostly end user you going to track will even didn't notice it. Hope features of this app will meet your needs
I'd like to recommend you Fameelee app, it's a free app that was recenly founded by myself on Google Play Market. Allows to track real time location of the family members, friends or whoever you wish
You can also check gps location histor for the last 30 days, get gps notification once your app member reach some specific places (you can match it on the map) and a lot of other useful features.
When connecting my phone to my car stereo, I get permission requests for the call history and phone book. I understand this is normal, however if I check the "don't ask again" box, the next time I connect the phone it doesn't retain that permission. My question is this: is there any way to permanently give the stereo access to the phone book and call history, so I don't have to OK it every time?
Thanks in advance.
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When connecting my phone to my car stereo, I get permission requests for the call history and phone book. I understand this is normal, however if I check the "don't ask again" box, the next time I connect the phone it doesn't retain that permission. My question is this: is there any way to permanently give the stereo access to the phone book and call history, so I don't have to OK it every time?
Thanks in advance.
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You may want to look at the car end of this. My system (Ford sync) offers to download my phone book after which it doesn't ask for those permissions again since it has the data locally (which is probably why I don't experience this problem). See if you can get your car to download the phone book. Other than that, I can't confirm whether this is a bug with aokp or just a bad flash or something.
Found several references to this question but all outdated or not relevant to the Gnex... is there a way to restrict a search to a specific forum ie the Gnex forum?
I just discovered that my disconnected Droid X can still access the net and the Play store, etc. I want to use my Gnex phone to do that too; but worry that it won't know I'm on WiFi and chew up data, and get git with a big, unexpected, bill for excess data use.
Is there an app or a Widget that will turn off, or disable, Data use when there is an active WiFi connection? So that I don't have to remember to do it when I get home or leave home?
I wonder about public WiFi connections; I wonder if automating the process would be a good idea after all; unless there were a way to choose the WiFi connection to access.
ps It looks like I may have found the answer in "Data On-Off" :victory:
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Found several references to this question but all outdated or not relevant to the Gnex... is there a way to restrict a search to a specific forum ie the Gnex forum?
I just discovered that my disconnected Droid X can still access the net and the Play store, etc. I want to use my Gnex phone to do that too; but worry that it won't know I'm on WiFi and chew up data, and get git with a big, unexpected, bill for excess data use.
Is there an app or a Widget that will turn off, or disable, Data use when there is an active WiFi connection? So that I don't have to remember to do it when I get home or leave home?
I wonder about public WiFi connections; I wonder if automating the process would be a good idea after all; unless there were a way to choose the WiFi connection to access.
ps It looks like I may have found the answer in "Data On-Off" :victory:
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Great you found the "answer", reported this to moderation team for closing.
Why would you even bother to bump/report it 72 hours later? The thread was fine where it was.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
Why would you even bother to bump/report it 72 hours later? The thread was fine where it was.
good day.
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Because it had no replies; Because OP did not edit the title thread to include the [SOLVED] tag; Because the OP should have done it himself (reporting the thread for closing); Because it was 72h old, and not 3 months; I reported it to prevent the thread from being necrobumped, on a matter as trivial as this. If it's a 3rd party app OP was looking for, then this might even be more appropriate on Android General, since he "didn't want to remember" himself to shut data connection off, and there isn't a sw or a hw issue so..
Now, if my report didn't get this thread closed, this post (or the following) will.
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I haven't. Had this problem on android and not since iPhone 3g years ago in college. Here is an example - you go to, school, hospital, wherever and log in through their website. Click accept to the rules and bang u r riding waves. But 10 minutes later after not being on your phone, class is done, etc you open your browser and... U want to throw the phone - now its time to hit retry, which never works, so u have to open another page to something different than Google until the website login page comes up and you can sign in by hitting accept again. I Sat next to my wife and we tried the same pages, ate lunch, opened up and her note 2 would surf no issues, my LG g3 lost connection and had to,back to the accept/login screen. So is it a setting, LG thing, or android 4.4 thing, please save my sanity and data plan.
Stew
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stewbuntu said:
I haven't. Had this problem on android and not since iPhone 3g years ago in college. Here is an example - you go to, school, hospital, wherever and log in through their website. Click accept to the rules and bang u r riding waves. But 10 minutes later after not being on your phone, class is done, etc you open your browser and... U want to throw the phone - now its time to hit retry, which never works, so u have to open another page to something different than Google until the website login page comes up and you can sign in by hitting accept again. I Sat next to my wife and we tried the same pages, ate lunch, opened up and her note 2 would surf no issues, my LG g3 lost connection and had to,back to the accept/login screen. So is it a setting, LG thing, or android 4.4 thing, please save my sanity and data plan.
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probably an network thing after 10 min of inactivity it breaks the connection, you wife's note was probably syncing something in the background, so the inactivity wasn't quite as long it is that or you have ennablede the option to shut down wifi when screen is off(settings/wifi/settings/keep on durring sleep/always
I knew someone would try and say that even after it happening at multiple places and having a good test proving it. If your answer is the case, then what is her phone doing that keeps he continual, connection? Bc I can't stand this and need to,make it happen on my phone. My shoutcast is doing it too. I open Pandora to fast forward and it says connection lost and Pandora starts playing a different song than what is still playing on the shoutcast. It is not a shoutcast or network issue if I loose network connection everytime on different networks and never had the issue before with other tablets and phones except a ijunk phone5 years ago. Shoutcast streams a link sent to it, My phone should not drop the connection regardless. I don't loose WiFi connection to my house and it logs in no problem. Its the way my phone is handling the network connection. Ok maybe u r correct, in that other phones sends a continual ping, but how to fix my phone. Oh now that I think,about it, I lost connection 3 Times last night at work if my screen was off for more than a minute or so with the Amazon chat customer service for a return. I had to put my screen on no-time-out to finish the chat. This network feature to hold a connection at school years ago was one of my favorite things after coming from,iPhone. No need to mess with connecting every time if u stayed in the building.
Please pardon my thumbs, oh and the WiFi on when screen off was oem set to "on"
Solved - So Verizon tier 2 support said it was an anti virus app closing the connections. I didn't have anything which reminded me to get something good for avg i suppose. Anyway he said likely myVerizon security which I didn't set up. Anyway I downgraded and used the flash tool method to go to 10b, rootee, then used titanium and uninstalled everything on the safe bloatware to remove list. All is work now, I did have 30 minutes last night where I kept looking and instantly regaining home WiFi while watching videos on a website, no YouTube app. Networks that require web login looking connection is solved. Also, pandora issue is solved