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[Q] ROM & Kernal

I am currently on the SyndicateROM with the genocide kernal. i would like to try a new rom. My question is this, if i want to try a new rom do i have to install a kernel again or do some roms have the kernel built in to them??

If you have clockwork mod, backup. That way restoring will be easy as it will restore EVERYTHING. As to your question, it really depends. Some rom's have the kernel built in, some don't. What do you plan on trying?

i wanted to try randomROM. i just want to make sure i do not brick my phone. i did it once before and have to have it replaced and i dont want to go through the process again.
also are there any stable gingerbread roms? would like to see something gingerbread before ice cream sandwich gets announced.

Paris6906 said:
i wanted to try randomROM. i just want to make sure i do not brick my phone. i did it once before and have to have it replaced and i dont want to go through the process again.
also are there any stable gingerbread roms? would like to see something gingerbread before ice cream sandwich gets announced.
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I can't find if a kernel is included with it...but Genocide should work just fine if your looking at randomrom 2.2. And you won't brick your phone from a rom flash. You'll almost always have Clockwork. And by stable, there's tons of leaks, but some of them have random reboots (which are actively being worked on!!). If you can live with that, try random rom 2.3

cool. Thanks for the answer. Does the random reboots cause anything to crash? or is just like i rebooted my phone myself?

Paris6906 said:
cool. Thanks for the answer. Does the random reboots cause anything to crash? or is just like i rebooted my phone myself?
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It...kinda...crashes lol. I haven't had that many, but most of mine and other people's were when the phone was idle. It doesn't cause data corrupting I don't think. But I could be wrong

ok. it is something i will defiantly think about. I will try RandomRom tomorrow. I wish that samsung would get going on fixing its updates to reasonable times. They have added some of the most well known android programers and still nothing.
sorry for the small rage rant. i just want updates in a reasonable time.

Paris6906 said:
ok. it is something i will defiantly think about. I will try RandomRom tomorrow. I wish that samsung would get going on fixing its updates to reasonable times. They have added some of the most well known android programers and still nothing.
sorry for the small rage rant. i just want updates in a reasonable time.
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At least your nice, and put it in a post. I remember making a whole thread about my rage rant lol.

Why Root

I have one question....
Why root a phone? I had my phone rooted and honestly it was a complete waste of time. NONE of the Roms I downloaded ever worked properly, the apps never worked, and it was nothing but trouble for me. My phone always "force close" my apps too. No offense to the developers I just didn't see a benefit.
Am I wrong?

With root you can
1. Run custom ROMs to make your phone your own
2. Remove bloat
3. Tether for free .99
4. Install custom kernels & voltages to increase your batter life or speed up your phone
That's just a few I can think of off the top. Don't think that magic will happen just because you root your phone...your phone can be rooted and still behave exactly how it did prior to root.

Root makes it possible to customize your phone to your liking. You can change the look and feel of just about everything. Root is also great for making battery life better or making your phone snappier by installing custom kernels and root only aps. I agree with you that a lot of roms are buggy and can be a pain, but some people like the trouble shooting aspect of figuring something out and making it work. I my self usually stick to the stock or mostly stock roms, and then remove, change, add features that i want. Without root your stuck with what htc and verizon gives you. Its all about freedom and choice and the ability to make your phone look how you want, and do the things you want it to do.

I am relatively new to rooting (this past summer), but what it gave me was a vastly superior phone to what I used to use. I have flashed about 5 ROMS - two Cyanogen Mod and three Sense based ROMS - out of the 5, I only had big problems with one. The other 4 made my phone faster, smoother, and gave me access to some apps (Titanium Backup, Font Changer) that have allowed me to customize my phone to my liking. It's made me change when I was hoping to get a new phone (now I don't care that much - yet) and I literally feel like I've had new phones every time I flash another ROM.
Doing it successfully also required that I read A LOT about phones, hardware, software, etc. - geeky stuff - that I didn't know. (I'm still learning a lot.)
So, maybe you're just not that into your phone and the geeky stuff?

epescina said:
I had my phone rooted and honestly it was a complete waste of time. NONE of the Roms I downloaded ever worked properly, the apps never worked, and it was nothing but trouble for me. My phone always "force close" my apps too.
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It sounds like your phone is afflicted with the common PEBKAC bug.
Given that, I think you are making the right decision by not rooting in the future.
For those genuinely wondering about the benefits of root, you can check the various stickies throughout this forum or the hundreds of articles that have been written about it. Alternatively, you could do a market search for "root only" to see all the unique apps. Or you could read about what custom roms offer. Or custom kernels. Or a host of other things.
If you don't know why you want to root, you probably shouldn't be rooting.

byrong said:
It sounds like your phone is afflicted with the common PEBKAC bug.
Given that, I think you are making the right decision by not rooting in the future.
For those genuinely wondering about the benefits of root, you can check the various stickies throughout this forum or the hundreds of articles that have been written about it. Alternatively, you could do a market search for "root only" to see all the unique apps. Or you could read about what custom roms offer. Or custom kernels. Or a host of other things.
If you don't know why you want to root, you probably shouldn't be rooting.
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PEBKAC bug? I'm assuming thats stands for something smart lol.
Edit: Haha nevermind i figured it out.

ummm, cuz its awesome...i feel like i escaped from alcatraz

Thanks for all of the great post guys! They were all very informative!
I guess it's true, I must educate myself more about rooting. I always assumed my phone would work better, allow me to use custom roms (that actually worked), and apps that were root only.
I jailbroke my ipod and other devices and they were easy to do and use and not to mention stable. I guess I was expecting the same outcome here.

Why wouldn't you root your phone? All it does is give you full access to your own device. If you don't follow directions and/or load a buggy rom it has nothing to do with rooting.

If you're having that kind of trouble with ROMs, you're doing something wrong (unless you're using AOSP, then you're ALWAYS going to have issues.) I simply won't use a ROM that isn't stable. I probably won't stick with one long even if it is stable and patched together like some Frankenstein chocked full of scripts and patches to make it work. Reliability is the top priority for me. There used to be devs on this device that valued that more than they seem to now, with a few exceptions. Most of them, from using them, are buggy, unstable projects that probably shouldn't have ever been released as anything but experimental betas. Some of them, like WildStang's, are VERY reliable. Just gotta do your research. This is a totally different world than Apple, and a LOT more powerful.

loonatik78 said:
If you're having that kind of trouble with ROMs, you're doing something wrong (unless you're using AOSP, then you're ALWAYS going to have issues.) I simply won't use a ROM that isn't stable. I probably won't stick with one long even if it is stable and patched together like some Frankenstein chocked full of scripts and patches to make it work. Reliability is the top priority for me. There used to be devs on this device that valued that more than they seem to now, with a few exceptions. Most of them, from using them, are buggy, unstable projects that probably shouldn't have ever been released as anything but experimental betas. Some of them, like WildStang's, are VERY reliable. Just gotta do your research. This is a totally different world than Apple, and a LOT more powerful.
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I have to say that I have had zero issues with cm7 and most aosp ROMs out for this phone. sounds like you're doing something wrong.
cm7 gives you so many opportunities for customization and runs so flawlessly I will not be running sense again. Galaxy nexus here I come barring some glaring issue with it, i'm done with HTC for awhile.
Sounds to me like the OP hasn't properly wiped all data before flashing his roms.

br125 said:
I have to say that I have had zero issues with cm7 and most aosp ROMs out for this phone. sounds like you're doing something wrong.
cm7 gives you so many opportunities for customization and runs so flawlessly I will not be running sense again. Galaxy nexus here I come barring some glaring issue with it, i'm done with HTC for awhile.
Sounds to me like the OP hasn't properly wiped all data before flashing his roms.
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I've flashed at about a dozen different versions of CM on that phone. Of those 3 or so didn't even boot. Of the ones that did, they had some kind of issue that couldn't be remedied like quirky screen brightness, reboots and FC's right off the bat. Of the couple of versions that made it past the first day, only one lasted more than a couple weeks before getting REALLY weird. A friend with an identical phone had a very similar experience. What's more, CM hasn't proven to be any more reliable on the EVOs I've flashed it on. In fact, about half the versions don't even boot. I've been doing this long enough to know I'm not doing it wrong. CM just sucks if reliability is a required trait.

loonatik78 said:
I've flashed at about a dozen different versions of CM on that phone. Of those 3 or so didn't even boot. Of the ones that did, they had some kind of issue that couldn't be remedied like quirky screen brightness, reboots and FC's right off the bat. Of the couple of versions that made it past the first day, only one lasted more than a couple weeks before getting REALLY weird. A friend with an identical phone had a very similar experience. What's more, CM hasn't proven to be any more reliable on the EVOs I've flashed it on. In fact, about half the versions don't even boot. I've been doing this long enough to know I'm not doing it wrong. CM just sucks if reliability is a required trait.
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that is the furthest from the truth of anything I've ever read. Go to the cm thread and write that. I've been on cm for a looong time without any FC's, reboots, or anything quirky. Stop spewing false opinions as fact, you're not helping anything.
Also, how could such an unreliable, buggy ROM be the most popular over a plethora of devices? Think about it.

Sounds like that nasty PEBKAC bug. I'm on CM 7.1 and it's been heaven. Almost everything works BETTER than stock.
For example, my car (Cruze 2011) can't utilize my phones contacts over Bluetooth on my stock sense rom. If I allow the car access to my phonebook, my Bluetooth will drop in and out and not work properly. So I have to tap "don't allow" and even though I checkmark the "remember my decision" box, it comes up every time I get in my car unless I grant it access. Annoying? Lets just say I'm thankful for the cyanogen team. Works absolutely flawless.
I adore the new lockscreen in 7.1. It's like a reverse sense 3.0 style where instead of dragging the apps to the ring, you drag the ring to the app. I still overall prefer the sense 3.0 lockscreen, but to get that I have to sacrifice a lot of stability. There are lists upon lists of features that make CM7 the rom to be on.
The one thing I will concede about CM7 is the auto brightness is a bit wonky. There are auto brightness tweaks you can mess with but something like that should work out of the box, so to speak. Another could-be annoyance is the heavy emphasis on customization, since CM comes pretty bare. CM9, however, will be feature rich per ICS.
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For one thing, you can't even take a screen shot without rooting. If you want a stable phone that is mostly stock, you can root, install ShootMe, and call it a day. Of course, it looks like they're finally fixing that fatal flaw with ICS (which this phone will never see from HTC).

loonatik78 said:
If you're having that kind of trouble with ROMs, you're doing something wrong (unless you're using AOSP, then you're ALWAYS going to have issues.) I simply won't use a ROM that isn't stable. I probably won't stick with one long even if it is stable and patched together like some Frankenstein chocked full of scripts and patches to make it work. Reliability is the top priority for me. There used to be devs on this device that valued that more than they seem to now, with a few exceptions. Most of them, from using them, are buggy, unstable projects that probably shouldn't have ever been released as anything but experimental betas. Some of them, like WildStang's, are VERY reliable. Just gotta do your research. This is a totally different world than Apple, and a LOT more powerful.
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Thanks, you seem to be the first to admit that most ROMS are unstable and buggy which is what really turned me away from most roms! I researched over and over and couldn't find stable roms, they all claim they are stable but that was never the case.

br125 said:
I have to say that I have had zero issues with cm7 and most aosp ROMs out for this phone. sounds like you're doing something wrong.
cm7 gives you so many opportunities for customization and runs so flawlessly I will not be running sense again. Galaxy nexus here I come barring some glaring issue with it, i'm done with HTC for awhile.
Sounds to me like the OP hasn't properly wiped all data before flashing his roms.
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So what is the proper way to wipe all data before flashing? I thought all you had to do was select the two flash boxes and run it!

epescina said:
So what is the proper way to wipe all data before flashing? I thought all you had to do was select the two flash boxes and run it!
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That's your problem, you're using ROM Manager to flash/install ROMs. You need to boot your phone into ClockworkMod Recovery and install it from there. Once in CWM Recovery, do:
1. Go into Recovery
2. Clear data: Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Battery Stats
3. Select Install zip file from SD Card, browse to the ROM zip file, select it with touch pad to install

epescina said:
So what is the proper way to wipe all data before flashing? I thought all you had to do was select the two flash boxes and run it!
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Don't use Rom manager. Boot into recovery and factory reset/wipe all user data, then flash the Rom. It also doesn't hurt to wipe dalvik cache and format the system if you are still having issues.
If you post in the thread of the Rom you're trying to flash, the users may have some more 'rom specific' instructions.
Sorry for getting off topic before, but I can't stand someone spreading false information about a very good Rom that may cause someone like you to not try it, when in all reality you may enjoy it, as very many droid incredible users do.
Edit: Try what he said above me too. That is almost an overkill amount of wiping, but it can almost guarantee that you won't have issues with the flash.

br125 said:
Don't use Rom manager. Boot into recovery and factory reset/wipe all user data, then flash the Rom. It also doesn't hurt to wipe dalvik cache and format the system if you are still having issues.
If you post in the thread of the Rom you're trying to flash, the users may have some more 'rom specific' instructions.
Sorry for getting off topic before, but I can't stand someone spreading false information about a very good Rom that may cause someone like you to not try it, when in all reality you may enjoy it, as very many droid incredible users do.
Edit: Try what he said above me too. That is almost an overkill amount of wiping, but it can almost guarantee that you won't have issues with the flash.
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This is true, probably overkill, but doesn't take long at all to do, and haven't had any issues yet installing any ROM. Battery Stats is an optional wipe.

We need stable Roms!

First off i would like to thank all devs for their hard work!
When are we going to have roms that don't soft reset on their own? everyone is making roms based on calks and they all soft reset when installing software needed and like to use.
for instance i cant install my backup pro on calks roms, but the free my backup works. when installing launcher 7 on his roms, it soft resets during calls.
why can't we have someone use the stock rom, root it, remove ciq, add tethering and so forth so we don't have issues.
i know the default response is "don't download them if you don't like them". We are here to have fun and test stuff but these roms soft reset after stating their roms are a finished product.

We?
I've been through just about every ROM in the development section and have never had a problem.
Sent from the future.

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I have been running Calkulin's since I got my device... no issues.

this thread comers off as sorta disrespectful to a dev who works hard on them. imo

Wow
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Wow.
You don't get to use "thank you" as an excuse to start bashing the work here. It doesn't matter if the wonderful devs "state their ROM is a finished product" or not. They don't owe you, me, XDA or anyone else a goddamn thing. Frankly, if they want to intentionally put in boot loops for giggles, that's their right and you don't get to say a thing about it. They're doing it for free; entirely for free so that folks like you and I might be able to enjoy an improved user experience on our $600 phones.
Why can't "we" have "stable ROMs?" Because you haven't spent a couple hundred hours programming one for us so we can bash every single problem it has.
Either get working on that or, please, kindly shut the **** up.
Thank you!

Let me know when you create one, OR when you start paying the DEV to work for you and you.
Till then, kindly stfu .

itster2 said:
First off i would like to thank all devs for their hard work!
When are we going to have roms that don't soft reset on their own? everyone is making roms based on calks and they all soft reset when installing software needed and like to use.
for instance i cant install my backup pro on calks roms, but the free my backup works. when installing launcher 7 on his roms, it soft resets during calls.
why can't we have someone use the stock rom, root it, remove ciq, add tethering and so forth so we don't have issues.
i know the default response is "don't download them if you don't like them". We are here to have fun and test stuff but these roms soft reset after stating their roms are a finished product.
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My Backup Pro works perfect for me on all versions of calk's rom. Sounds like your phone just sucks. I have had 0 reboots unless using the OLD lockscreen mod (before the most recent update), or because of the LOS repair daemon.

Snowflakes
Yeah, no stability issues here and I've tried several ROM's. That said it seems like our phones are like snowflakes. No two seem to be exactly the same. For example, I have never experienced LoS (knock on wood) but obviously this is a significant problem for lots of folks. And some phones can be under and overclocked more than others. Weird.

itster2 said:
First off i would like to thank all devs for their hard work!
When are we going to have roms that don't soft reset on their own? everyone is making roms based on calks and they all soft reset when installing software needed and like to use.
for instance i cant install my backup pro on calks roms, but the free my backup works. when installing launcher 7 on his roms, it soft resets during calls.
why can't we have someone use the stock rom, root it, remove ciq, add tethering and so forth so we don't have issues.
i know the default response is "don't download them if you don't like them". We are here to have fun and test stuff but these roms soft reset after stating their roms are a finished product.
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Wtf are you talking about? Lol

I can understand where the OP is coming from. When I was on the Evo 3D and every other phone on my signature, when the dev said there rom was complete it was finished and stable.
On this phone, it was a different story. I was also one of the phone Epic users who phone would reboot on EVERY SINGLE rom and that was with no custom launcher and no overclock. It would just hot reboot randomly by it self on every rom.
The OP is correct to a certain extent that EVERY rom on here is built off Culks work so what every problem Culks rom had the other roms had the same problem. So of course my phone was hot rebooting on every rom.
This seemed to have been fixed with the EK02 stock rom became available because now that im on Calks 2.0 rom I havnt had a hot reboot ever since.
To the OP go ahead and install the EK Rom / Radio / Kernal and your hot reboots should go away. If your having reboots from using custom launcher then I dont have a solution for that.
As for MyBackUp Pro it always worked on every rom so I dont know what to say there.
Good luck!

First off, why point fingers at roms when it could, in fact, be the app that is causing the issue? I've been running Caulkin's Rom since his first issue and have yet to have a single reboot.
Any backup program can cause issues depending upon what you're restoring. If you're trying to restore any system settings you're setting yourself up for problems. Even restoring some apps with data can cause issues as file structures may change as roms are updated.
So, do yourself a favor before you start pointing fingers at devs and roms. Don't take the lazy way out just once. Do a full wipe, install all your apps fresh from the market and see what happens. I highly doubt you'll see any reboots at all.
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Starburst and Venum have been perfect for me. Sometimes I swear its the device, mine won't overclock at all and playing with voltages causes more problems than it solves on my device. Stock kernel seems to solve all my problems though.
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Seriously, I have to back the other responses here. The day you have a ROM that works perfectly for YOU is the day you compile it yourself. Until then, be happy that these guys spend any of their valuable free time contributing something that makes all of our lives more enjoyable. If you can't do that, then kindly find the door.

I havent had a problem with any rom. No reboots at all. Overclocked, underclocked or stock, havent had a problem. Perhaps the problem isnt the phone, but whats behind it.....

Ignorance is bliss.

HappyFillmore said:
Ignorance is bliss.
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Just so the op knows, I am working on a fully stock rom with no mods or tweaks... Just added apps (I posted a thread over in Q and A for what people wanted in a stock rom).

wolfkstaag said:
Wow.
You don't get to use "thank you" as an excuse to start bashing the work here. It doesn't matter if the wonderful devs "state their ROM is a finished product" or not. They don't owe you, me, XDA or anyone else a goddamn thing. Frankly, if they want to intentionally put in boot loops for giggles, that's their right and you don't get to say a thing about it. They're doing it for free; entirely for free so that folks like you and I might be able to enjoy an improved user experience on our $600 phones.
Why can't "we" have "stable ROMs?" Because you haven't spent a couple hundred hours programming one for us so we can bash every single problem it has.
Either get working on that or, please, kindly shut the **** up.
Thank you!
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QFT - The non programming user base needs to get some perspective about the fact that they are contributing nothing so therefore have no say in any aspect of development. Such is life.

hypersonicx and venum,
thank you for your response.
all others,
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Best Simply ROM For T-Mo GS3

Hey there. I bought my wife a GS3 for T-Mo off of Craigslist, and it has an AOKP jellybean ROM on it. I personally like the ROM, but my wife complains about certain bugs, and doesn't use much (if any) of the customization features.
I don't want to flash it back to stock as I think Samsungs interface is junk.
Can anyone please recommend a very simple, relatively bug free custom ROM to flash?
Thanks for the help!

what type of "custom" "bug free" rom, like no TouchWiz? look at my signature there is a resource guide I have created. What are the bugs she doesn't like maybe we can eliminate them, or you can update her phone so she doesn't have them...

I tried a few then ended up on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750270
The reason I've stayed with it is I haven't had any problems and I can use Nova launcher with it.
Once I find out which Jelly Bean ROM will work well with PDroid, I will switch to that.

@OP, if you can turn this into a "Let's fix my wife's phone issues" thread, I'll leave it open. If it stays as a Best ROM thread then it'll get locked (they always turn into "whip it out and see who's is better" threads).
Like mt3g said, what issues is she having? Also like he said, go to the Bible (stuck in the General section) and you'll get a good synopsis of what is going on around the Development section.
Wives can be a tricky bunch. Mine is running a custom AOSP on her SGS2 that I tweaked out myself. While it is 99% stable, she'll find that 1% wrong and I'll fix it and move on to another issue. Sometimes for fun, I take a bootanimation.zip and load into her /data/local and the next time she reboots, it throws her off a bit. Now she is pretty savvy at all this, so I usually get a text shortly after. One time I put a screen shot of my SGS3 on her wall and moved all her icons to another page. That one really messed her head up. She screws with my tablet when I am not home, so she knows how the game works.
What I am saying is that you/we can probably solve most of her issues if you let us know what they are.

Woody said:
Wives can be a tricky bunch. Mine is running a custom AOSP on her SGS2 that I tweaked out myself. While it is 99% stable, she'll find that 1% wrong and I'll fix it and move on to another issue. Sometimes for fun, I take a bootanimation.zip and load into her /data/local and the next time she reboots, it throws her off a bit. Now she is pretty savvy at all this, so I usually get a text shortly after. One time I put a screen shot of my SGS3 on her wall and moved all her icons to another page. That one really messed her head up. She screws with my tablet when I am not home, so she knows how the game works.
What I am saying is that you/we can probably solve most of her issues if you let us know what they are.
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That is awesome, I'm going to be messing with all my friends now, thanks.
critofur said:
I tried a few then ended up on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750270
The reason I've stayed with it is I haven't had any problems and I can use Nova launcher with it.
Once I find out which Jelly Bean ROM will work well with PDroid, I will switch to that.
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You could use Nova Launcher with any and every rom my friend available, for our device at least.

Woody said:
@OP, if you can turn this into a "Let's fix my wife's phone issues" thread, I'll leave it open. If it stays as a Best ROM thread then it'll get locked (they always turn into "whip it out and see who's is better" threads).
Like mt3g said, what issues is she having? Also like he said, go to the Bible (stuck in the General section) and you'll get a good synopsis of what is going on around the Development section.
Wives can be a tricky bunch. Mine is running a custom AOSP on her SGS2 that I tweaked out myself. While it is 99% stable, she'll find that 1% wrong and I'll fix it and move on to another issue. Sometimes for fun, I take a bootanimation.zip and load into her /data/local and the next time she reboots, it throws her off a bit. Now she is pretty savvy at all this, so I usually get a text shortly after. One time I put a screen shot of my SGS3 on her wall and moved all her icons to another page. That one really messed her head up. She screws with my tablet when I am not home, so she knows how the game works.
What I am saying is that you/we can probably solve most of her issues if you let us know what they are.
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Yeah...I didn't mean to start a "best ROM" thread as I know how annoying those can be. I understand that some ROM's can be a bit buggy, and thats a trade off most of us are willing to live with to have the latest features and customizations. To better rephrase my question, I am not looking for the "most stable" ROM. I'm looking for any option, whether it be tweeking some settings, or flashing a new ROM. My wife is completely phone illiterate compared to most of us on this website. She uses all the features on her phone, but thats it. She loves AOKP because she can make her font pink...lol.
The main three issues she has are below.
1. Turns off randomly on its own
2. When she hits the power button to wake up the phone, the light up haptic buttons at the bottom of the the phone light up, but the screen doesn't go on. At this point she is forced to pull the battery to restart the phone and get the screen working.
3. Phone freezes quite often

rehughe said:
Yeah...I didn't mean to start a "best ROM" thread as I know how annoying those can be. I understand that some ROM's can be a bit buggy, and thats a trade off most of us are willing to live with to have the latest features and customizations. To better rephrase my question, I am not looking for the "most stable" ROM. I'm looking for any option, whether it be tweeking some settings, or flashing a new ROM. My wife is completely phone illiterate compared to most of us on this website. She uses all the features on her phone, but thats it. She loves AOKP because she can make her font pink...lol.
The main three issues she has are below.
1. Turns off randomly on its own
2. When she hits the power button to wake up the phone, the light up haptic buttons at the bottom of the the phone light up, but the screen doesn't go on. At this point she is forced to pull the battery to restart the phone and get the screen working.
3. Phone freezes quite often
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I would suggest wiping phone and or maybe installing a different rom/ kernel combo... that all sounds like a kernel issue. Get her phone and go to Settings>about phone> and tell me android version, Kernel Version, AOKP Version.
She can have her font pink on a stock based rom as well... does she use BlueTooth?
If not I suggest updating to the latest of Mike's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037028 it is 4.2.1 it is mostly Cm-10.1, but with his and DjIntrigue's cherry picks and little fixes here and there. They're switching to AOKP for the most part on Friday with a new release.

Android Version: 4.1.1
Kernel: 3.0.43-cyanogenmod-faux123-att-tmo-g43de6e3 [email protected]) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Oct 1 02:39:01 CEST 2012
AOKP Version: aokp_d2tmo_jb_build-4
If I flash to a new ROM would you recommend trying a different kernel?
Thanks for the help!

I recommend not try a new kernel mostly. If all else fails go to a stock based ROM TouchWiz isn't too bad. I prefer aosp based roms but not all phones are created equal. Yours not liking the kernel can more then likely be fixed by raising the deep sleep MHz but that'll result in not so great battery life.
T-Mobile SGS III

Ok...thanks a lot. I'll give the suggested ROM a try.
Thanks again!

rehughe said:
Ok...thanks a lot. I'll give the suggested ROM a try.
Thanks again!
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Welcome.
T-Mobile SGS III

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070955

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952263
Check this out, Jamison is one of the best!!
rehughe said:
Hey there. I bought my wife a GS3 for T-Mo off of Craigslist, and it has an AOKP jellybean ROM on it. I personally like the ROM, but my wife complains about certain bugs, and doesn't use much (if any) of the customization features.
I don't want to flash it back to stock as I think Samsungs interface is junk.
Can anyone please recommend a very simple, relatively bug free custom ROM to flash?
Thanks for the help!
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Sorry, def not trying to get this thread locked, posted before I read, won't happen again!
Chefedogg said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952263
Check this out, Jamison is one of the best!!
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Or you c. Try this one
This is a really nice ROM, and stable!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014442

[Q] My introduction and help request- Im rooted, now what?

Hi everyone. I've been a lurker here for some time and I finally signed up. 1st off, I have to say that all you guys do an amazing job.
I used to have the Tmo gs4g and always managed to get all my questions answered just by searching enough.There was one thread that was particularly helpful to noobs. It was a basic walkthrough for your first root and rom flash. It even offered up a few kernals and ROMs that were good for your 1st flash.
Now I have the Tmo sgs3 and there just seems to be so much to sift through. I've been at this for the past 2 days straight and while I've learned quite a bit, I just don't feel like I'm confident enough to take the plunge. I've bricked a couple of the sgs4g.
I've managed to root my gs3, get CWM to stick by flashing it through ROM manager (still says I'm living in 1970 but I can live with that) and flashed the adrenaline injector.
I think I'm ok with the stock ROM. The only thing that really bothers me is waiting for the keyboard to popup when I want to type something. It probably takes about 5 seconds to come up but it feels like forever. I'd really like a kernal or a ROM that's close to stock that will improve battery life and give the CPU a kickstart, if that's possible.
Some of the ROMS look pretty cool (like Liquidsmooth and Darthstalker) and what they can do, I'm just a little worried I might get a little over my head with how complex they seem.
If any of this rambling makes sense to you, I'd appreciate it if someone could share the links of what I might be looking for.

nataku199 said:
Hi everyone. I've been a lurker here for some time and I finally signed up. 1st off, I have to say that all you guys do an amazing job.
I used to have the Tmo gs4g and always managed to get all my questions answered just by searching enough.There was one thread that was particularly helpful to noobs. It was a basic walkthrough for your first root and rom flash. It even offered up a few kernals and ROMs that were good for your 1st flash.
Now I have the Tmo sgs3 and there just seems to be so much to sift through. I've been at this for the past 2 days straight and while I've learned quite a bit, I just don't feel like I'm confident enough to take the plunge. I've bricked a couple of the sgs4g.
I've managed to root my gs3, get CWM to stick by flashing it through ROM manager (still says I'm living in 1970 but I can live with that) and flashed the adrenaline injector.
I think I'm ok with the stock ROM. The only thing that really bothers me is waiting for the keyboard to popup when I want to type something. It probably takes about 5 seconds to come up but it feels like forever. I'd really like a kernal or a ROM that's close to stock that will improve battery life and give the CPU a kickstart, if that's possible.
Some of the ROMS look pretty cool (like Liquidsmooth and Darthstalker) and what they can do, I'm just a little worried I might get a little over my head with how complex they seem.
If any of this rambling makes sense to you, I'd appreciate it if someone could share the links of what I might be looking for.
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The keyboard lag is probably due to all the stock bloat. I suggest buying TitaniumBackup. Not only to back up your app data, but it can (amongst other things) also disable the system apps that you can't disable through the built-in app manager. I love ROM Toolbox, but I've been noticing some problems with it lately. It's kind of a bug fest. Anyhow, use TiBu to freeze the garbage you don't want.
Make a nandroid with CWM, then:
Download Ashaman (debloater) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732039. It's easy to use (flash with recovery), and safe. There is another debloater in our section, but it's a bit over aggressive imo.
If you want to stay stock, that's fine, but I recommend a couple things, one is flashing a kernel, like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291368. You want "Touchwiz JB (4.1.1 & 4.1.2) VERSIONS:" from post 2.
If you have other specific questions, you can get me on Hangouts with the same name.

I did use titanium backup to get rid of some of the apps I knew I didn't need but I'll check out Ashaman (debloater) and see what else I can get rid of. Thanx for that.

Hey man i came from the GS4G too! I felt the same way and asking questions and plenty of reading is what led me to where i am today. If you're interested you should flash a custom rom+kernel. With a custom kernel, you can adjust how you want your CPU and other stuff to perform. And with custom rom, you'll get the best out of your phone, in my opinion. I'm running LiquidSmooth right now and I'm waiting for the Illusion update. If you need any help, feel free to ask, there are plenty of people here to help. If you like stock tw, you should try flashing a tw rom such as wicked, darthstalker, imfamous or any other 4.1.1-4.1.2 roms. If you like a pure google experience, flash a AOSP rom like LS, Cyanogenmod, or another 4.2.2 rom. It's up to you honestly but if you want to take the dive, always read the OP and ask questions if you're confused! Best of luck!
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TheKucho said:
Hey man i came from the GS4G too! I felt the same way and asking questions and plenty of reading is what led me to where i am today. If you're interested you should flash a custom rom+kernel. With a custom kernel, you can adjust how you want your CPU and other stuff to perform. And with custom rom, you'll get the best out of your phone, in my opinion. I'm running LiquidSmooth right now and I'm waiting for the Illusion update. If you need any help, feel free to ask, there are plenty of people here to help. If you like stock tw, you should try flashing a tw rom such as wicked, darthstalker, imfamous or any other 4.1.1-4.1.2 roms. If you like a pure google experience, flash a AOSP rom like LS, Cyanogenmod, or another 4.2.2 rom. It's up to you honestly but if you want to take the dive, always read the OP and ask questions if you're confused! Best of luck!
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So if I decided to go with the darthstalker rom or liquid smooth, how do I know which kernal would b best for me? Trial and error? I've been reading up on them but I'm not always sure about what's compatible with what.

nataku199 said:
So if I decided to go with the darthstalker rom or liquid smooth, how do I know which kernal would b best for me? Trial and error? I've been reading up on them but I'm not always sure about what's compatible with what.
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Most people seem to like ktoons kernal.
The two roms you've mentioned are very good ones but also very different.
Just know with liquidsmooth or any AOSP rom, your files in your internal sd card will get sent to a /0 folder and you won't have touchwiz features smart stay, camera, palm screenshot, nor wifi calling etc.
If you flash this it's fine(I've used LS, loved it) but just know if you don't like it, I recommend to Odin. Going from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 through recovery has always given me fc's and reboots. I'm speaking from my personal experience, others may tell you different which is fine.
I'm just giving you a heads up before you flash liquidsmooth and think it wiped your internal storage, ask where's wifi calling, etc.
I wouldn't mess with kernels if everything is working fine.
Stockorama, Wicked, Liquidsmooth, Illusions, etc. All fantastic roms. Read OP's and replies just to make sure you know exactly what to expect.
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Before messing with kernels, I'd start by getting used to some of the custom roms first. Try a few out for a few days each and choose the one you like best.
As stated, Darthstalker and Liquid Smooth are both popular choices around here. There's also the tried-and-true CM 10.1, if you feel more comfortable with it.
Personally, I'm using CarbonRom nightlies and its been pretty stable for the SGH-T999 d2tmo (T-Mobile SGS3).
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IXChicharitoXI said:
Just know with liquidsmooth or any AOSP rom, your files in your internal sd card will get sent to a /0 folder and you won't have touchwiz features smart stay, camera, palm screenshot, nor wifi calling etc.
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So wifi calling doesn't work with any AOSP roms or just liquidsmooth? I'll read up on any rom I choose but I use wifi calling a lot and if that's the case then this just saved me a ton of reading. We've been having reception problems at our house so I've been forced to used wifi calling while at home. Tmobile claims it's my phone (they're sending me a new one this week even though I told them it's not the phone and that I really didn't want a new one) even though 3 out of the 4 phones in the household suddenly have lousy reception.
Since I'm getting a new phone this week, that brings me to my next question-restoring. Since you guys are constantly wiping your phones, what's the fastest way to restore it? I mean, restoring all the little settings like ringtones, homepages, etc... Let's say I flash a rom. Now Titanium Backup should take care of my apps but what about all the settings? Can I just go into CWM's advanced recovery and hit recover data? Is there anything else under advanced recovery I would want to hit?

Wifi calling is in touchwiz based roms only.
If you had several phones all of a sudden suffer signal problems, it will most likely be a network issue. Or they may be upgrading your area. Give it a few days to a week to see if it improves.
TiB can back up your settings too. Or you can just restore a nandroid backup and be done with it. Never heard of data recover options in recovery. Nandroid is the option you probably want.
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nataku199 said:
So wifi calling doesn't work with any AOSP roms or just liquidsmooth? I'll read up on any rom I choose but I use wifi calling a lot and if that's the case then this just saved me a ton of reading. We've been having reception problems at our house so I've been forced to used wifi calling while at home. Tmobile claims it's my phone (they're sending me a new one this week even though I told them it's not the phone and that I really didn't want a new one) even though 3 out of the 4 phones in the household suddenly have lousy reception.
Since I'm getting a new phone this week, that brings me to my next question-restoring. Since you guys are constantly wiping your phones, what's the fastest way to restore it? I mean, restoring all the little settings like ringtones, homepages, etc... Let's say I flash a rom. Now Titanium Backup should take care of my apps but what about all the settings? Can I just go into CWM's advanced recovery and hit recover data? Is there anything else under advanced recovery I would want to hit?
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If you need wifi calling, stay away from AOSP roms then. There's plenty of great touchwiz roms to try though so don't worry.
I use nova launcher so I make a back up of my home screens through nova.
I restore everything the way it was before after I finish restoring apps/data from titanium backup.
I only use nandroids(cwm backups) if something is broken. Otherwise I don't touch it.
Titanium restores your apps and data with apps if you choose so. I always restore game data, alarm settings, notes I've written, etc.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Wifi calling is in touchwiz based roms only.
If you had several phones all of a sudden suffer signal problems, it will most likely be a network issue. Or they may be upgrading your area. Give it a few days to a week to see if it improves.
TiB can back up your settings too. Or you can just restore a nandroid backup and be done with it. Never heard of data recover options in recovery. Nandroid is the option you probably want.
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Go into CWM, hit recovery, advanced recovery, hit which ever backup you want then it brings you to a screen that says restore boot, restore system, restore data, restore cache, restore sd-ext. I'm assuming you can use that if you only want to restore certain things.

Correct
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Well after much consideration and research I decided to start out with Wicked rom. It was a tough decision between Wicked and Darth Stalker but Wicked seemed like it might be a little more noob friendly (not to mention it has some really cool themes).
This is really exciting for me. I really get off on this kind of stuff. My gf always thought it was weird that I'd get excited every time an update was released. :victory:
Anyway, Thanx to everyone for their patience and help.

nataku199 said:
My gf always thought it was weird that I'd get excited every time an update was released.
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Lol, well, you're not alone, and I think you came to the right place! Good luck and have fun!
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nataku199 said:
Well after much consideration and research I decided to start out with Wicked rom. It was a tough decision between Wicked and Darth Stalker but Wicked seemed like it might be a little more noob friendly (not to mention it has some really cool themes).
This is really exciting for me. I really get off on this kind of stuff. My gf always thought it was weird that I'd get excited every time an update was released. :victory:
Anyway, Thanx to everyone for their patience and help.
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Great choice. Wicked v9 was my first rom I ever flashed, got to the rooting scene two or three months ago.
It's a brilliant rom and so much better than stock.
Enjoy!
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