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Apps Still taking up space on phone

Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?

ricochet69 said:
Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.

Lennyuk said:
Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.

ricochet69 said:
ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.

see attached screenshot

Lennyuk said:
well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?

ricochet69 said:
ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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Not all apps will have the ability to "move to sd" on froyo, however with "apps2sd+" or "ext apps2sd" everything will be saved onto the ext parition of the sd card.

So since i have app2sd already preinstalled on the djdroid rom, i already see all my apps are movable to the SD card. is that correct? or are just most apps movable anyway

app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.

dahauss said:
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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Two things!
1. Why resurrect a thread that is nearly 3 months old?
2. If someone is using Apps2SD with an EXT partition, everything is already installed on the EXT partition and so is already on the SD card. There's no point "moving" it to SD since all you'd be doing is shifting it from the EXT partition to the FAT32 partition!
Regards,
Dave

[Q] free internal memory

Hello
is there a way to free space on the internal memory ?
i have something like 17 mb left which is not enough in my opinion
i havent rooted or anything, latest official rom from htc is installed and all apps that support installing on sd card are on it.

Delete apps
No other way other than to go custom and use a ROM with A2SD+

TulpiX said:
Hello
is there a way to free space on the internal memory ?
i have something like 17 mb left which is not enough in my opinion
i havent rooted or anything, latest official rom from htc is installed and all apps that support installing on sd card are on it.
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))) Try moving what you can to sd. Or root and move everything.

hmmm ok.
thx, hoped there would be some other method, the lack of internal memory sucks

I suggest you install DiskUsage from the Market. The app shows you the .apk's on the internal storage and the size of the data connected. Click on a data position (preferably "Cache") and then Menu > Show and you are in the Settings > Applications > Manage Apps section of the phone at the respective app. You then can delete the cache data. (I would suggest that you don't touch the system apps, but your downloaded apps only.) Some apps really gather lots of data by the time, which you can easily delete, like EStrongs File Explorer.
You can also deinstall your email accounts and re-install them. This will also free a lot of internal storage. And, of course, you can go into the settings menu of the internet browser and delete all cache there.
Furthermore, under Froyo, you can use the ADB setInstallLocation (search for it in the General Topics section) command in order to shift really most apps to the SD card.
I hope this helps.

thanks
sad thing is i have done most of those things so it seems i have to possibilities, either being stuck with low storage or root and move apps to sd card.

hey
thanks again for your help.
rooted my phone and went the setinstalllocations way.
now got 28 mb free on internal which is far less than i expected. but at least i can now install all apps on sd.
strange thing: moved a 26 mb big app to sd but it doas not seem to free 26 mb of storage.
htc should make slimmer roms

Backup all your apps, reset the phone and reinstall all over. It will probably take you 30 mins and will free up way more memory. I usually do it once a month if I install/uninstall a lot of apps. There is a stupid memoryleak somewhere...at least on my phone there is.

[Q] Apps installed but gone from app drawer and cannot be launched.

2.2 Stock Rom, rooted, S-OFF
Apps are visible in the Settings-Applications-Manage Applications-Downloaded section, but there are no icons. Just a grayed out icon with a micro-sd card on it. Showing, what I assume to be, that it is on the SD card, but cannot be launched. The apps are not available via the app drawer.
Ideas?

Help anyone?

Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling them through the Market?

The market won't allow me to install anything. Whether it be a new app or a replacement for these. And starting over is not really a course I am looking to take unless absolutely necessary. Uninstalling and reinstalling 150+ apps does not sound like an entertaining time.
Also if it provides any clue, when in the setting-manage applications area, the sizes of the apps, that usually updates quickly, is forever stuck in the "computing..." phase.

150+ apps? Do you have any storage left? LOL

Sounds like you might have a SD Card problem.
A couple of suggestions -
1. Scan your SD Card (mounted in Windows) for errors. From "My Computer", right-click on the drive and go to Tools. Select the Disk Check.
2. Uninstall the "missing" applications. Go to Settings->SD & Phone Storage and Unmount SD Card. Try to install the applications. If this works, remount the SD Card when you are done. You can use this method to try to install new apps as well.
3. Some people have had luck with deleting the .android_secure folder from the SD Card (this is where Android stores your apps on the SD Card).
If you still can't download any new apps, you might want to go to Settings->Applications->All and clear try to clear the cache (and then the data if needed) and Force Close Market. This may help. If you notice that all of your downloaded apps disappear from the Market, downloading a new app usually fixes that problem for me.
FIT-Performance said:
The market won't allow me to install anything. Whether it be a new app or a replacement for these. And starting over is not really a course I am looking to take unless absolutely necessary. Uninstalling and reinstalling 150+ apps does not sound like an entertaining time.
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subcypher said:
150+ apps? Do you have any storage left? LOL
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185 actually (just did a quick count). And yes, plenty of storage. 32gb (with only 8gb taken up) sd card, and 200mb left on the internal.

nivron said:
Sounds like you might have a SD Card problem.
A couple of suggestions -
1. Scan your SD Card (mounted in Windows) for errors. From "My Computer", right-click on the drive and go to Tools. Select the Disk Check.
2. Uninstall the "missing" applications. Go to Settings->SD & Phone Storage and Unmount SD Card. Try to install the applications. If this works, remount the SD Card when you are done. You can use this method to try to install new apps as well.
3. Some people have had luck with deleting the .android_secure folder from the SD Card (this is where Android stores your apps on the SD Card).
If you still can't download any new apps, you might want to go to Settings->Applications->All and clear try to clear the cache (and then the data if needed) and Force Close Market. This may help. If you notice that all of your downloaded apps disappear from the Market, downloading a new app usually fixes that problem for me.
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1. Done, and done. No errors. I'm used to external and flash media, so this was one of the first things I did.
2. Unmounting the card gets a force close. I select it like normal, but it gives no confirmation, and after a bit gives me the force close message. Going to have to power off and remove the SD card for this option.
3. Noted, will look into that option shortly.
While I can force close and clear data from the market, the clear cache button does nothing. Trying option 2 now.

What ROM are you using? Is it possible that your launcher, widget, or some other system application is on the SD card?
Also, if you clear the Data, it automatically clears the cache, which is why it is grayed out.
If you have a terminal emulator application or access to adb, you can unmount the SD card from a shell and see if that helps.
FIT-Performance said:
1. Done, and done. No errors. I'm used to external and flash media, so this was one of the first things I did.
2. Unmounting the card gets a force close. I select it like normal, but it gives no confirmation, and after a bit gives me the force close message. Going to have to power off and remove the SD card for this option.
3. Noted, will look into that option shortly.
While I can force close and clear data from the market, the clear cache button does nothing. Trying option 2 now.
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FIT-Performance said:
2.2 Stock Rom, rooted, S-OFF
Apps are visible in the Settings-Applications-Manage Applications-Downloaded section, but there are no icons. Just a grayed out icon with a micro-sd card on it. Showing, what I assume to be, that it is on the SD card, but cannot be launched. The apps are not available via the app drawer.
Ideas?
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Use a file manager to look for one of your apps, which I imagine you moved into the apps2sd "folder" on the sdcard. That should tell you the state of the sd card as well. When apps2sd is used it only moves part of the apk to the sdcard, that's why the system still sees the part not on the sdcard.
Get an apk from market ( except you can't ) to fix the symlinks.
If you do a nandroid restore, the issue will still be there cause you did use the ext partition, in apps2sd.
You do get one chance in market to reload all your missing apks, but if you close market it won't remember the missing apks.

nivron said:
What ROM are you using? Is it possible that your launcher, widget, or some other system application is on the SD card?
Also, if you clear the Data, it automatically clears the cache, which is why it is grayed out.
If you have a terminal emulator application or access to adb, you can unmount the SD card from a shell and see if that helps.
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Stock 2.2, rooted, s-off. Using LauncherPro, and no it is not on the SD card. I can navigate it easily and launch any applications from it that are not on the SD card.
Good to know about the data/cache link. Although the cache never acutally gets grayed out. I press the clear data button, confirm the decisions, and it stays in the "recalculating size" (might not be verbatim there) message and never goes away.
Good idea. Although I am going to report that the problem is fixed now, as I took a little more direct route. Steps are below for anyone that has the same problem as I:
Problem: Apps on the SD card are not loading. Visible in the Settings-Manage Applications area, but not unable to actually launch via shortcuts on home screen and do not appear in the app drawer. Unmounting the SD card via the settings gets a force close. Restarts do nothing, clearing the Data/Cache from the market app does nothing. This occurred randomly and has also occurred after apps that were installing/being updated from the market and got stuck in an "install loop", as in they said they were "installing" but never did.
My Solution: Power down, remove SD card, power up, force close market, clear data, power down, install SD card, power up, enjoy.
As stated above unmounting the SD card via terminal or adb might work as well. I cannot confirm as I went the more "direct" route. I thank everyone for their help. This community, quite simple, rules.

[Q] Insufficient storage even though most apps have been linked to SD

Most apps are on the SD card and I still can't install new apps because of low storage. I think the stock email apps is causing problems because I sometimes get the message "delete old messages to download new ones".
When a program first installs, it installs on internal memory right? So there has to be enough room in internal memory before it can be moved to SD?

Exactly.
Don't forget app data (maybe dex and lib files too) is still in internal memory as well, unless you have used app to link those as well.
Check Settings - Applications to see, how much free space you have.
EDIT: Please be clear - did you link apps (ext partition) or did you move them (Android feature)? You use both wording, yet these are completely different.

Someguyfromhell said:
Exactly.
Don't forget app data (maybe dex and lib files too) is still in internal memory as well, unless you have used app to link those as well.
Check Settings - Applications to see, how much free space you have.
EDIT: Please be clear - did you link apps (ext partition) or did you move them (Android feature)? You use both wording, yet these are completely different.
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link apps using link2sd

imgoingtowin said:
link apps using link2sd
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if you have the free version then you cannot link everything. do you have the free version?

imgoingtowin said:
Most apps are on the SD card and I still can't install new apps because of low storage. I think the stock email apps is causing problems because I sometimes get the message "delete old messages to download new ones".
When a program first installs, it installs on internal memory right? So there has to be enough room in internal memory before it can be moved to SD?
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clean your apps cashe regularly

Take a look here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162233
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974972
They both worked great for me, I didn't use the link2sd anymore.

[Q] insufficient space on the device

hello guys its been some time i've been trying to download apps from play store that are 3-4 or more mb and i always get an error saying that there is insufficient space on the devide
i have tried to clear the cache from recovery mode but the problem remains.
i checked the partition mounts with the app partition table and i cant understand why i get this error...
storage/emulated/0 and /data has about 500mb free
/system has arround 200mb free
here are some screenshots of the partition mounts of my device
error
mounts_1
mounts_2
has anyone any clue how to fix this problem and why do i get this error?

nobody?

jimacid said:
nobody?
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If you are rooted, you can try the FolderMount app. Worked for me by freeing up space on the emulated SD.

madura said:
If you are rooted, you can try the FolderMount app. Worked for me by freeing up space on the emulated SD.
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from what i see this app is used to transfer app files to the sd card and while it may help a little (since i really dont have games and huge apps on my phone) eventually after a few months i will still have the same problem since all the apps are constantly getting bigger in mb and i will continue to install new apps.
what i am trying to find is the reason the phone reports it has no space since from what i can see it does have plenty of space left.
by the way i did tried to install the app you recommended but guess what?
there is no available free space on the device

I'm having the same problem at the moment. Short of installing a custom rom and getting rid of TouchWiz altogether, I hope someone figured something out.

kabloomz said:
I'm having the same problem at the moment. Short of installing a custom rom and getting rid of TouchWiz altogether, I hope someone figured something out.
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I found out that if I unmount my sd card the phone was able again to install big apps and that made me think that maybe there are some corrupted files in my sd card, so I installed the APP sd maid from the market I cleared the dead files and cleared the system and since then the problem has been fixed.
Just make sure that in order to clean dalvic cache too you need to enter the settings and allow the app to delete unwanted odex,obex files

jimacid said:
I found out that if I unmount my sd card the phone was able again to install big apps and that made me think that maybe there are some corrupted files in my sd card, so I installed the APP sd maid from the market I cleared the dead files and cleared the system and since then the problem has been fixed.
Just make sure that in order to clean dalvic cache too you need to enter the settings and allow the app to delete unwanted odex,obex files
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I had the same issue. Format SD/factory reset did not help in my case.
I hope "insufficient space" has gone from your device, nevertheless I suggest you to instal and run the FolderMount app anyway. When I ran it for the first time, it detected problem with writing on (fresh formatted) SD by non system apps and prompted for fixing it (I let). Since that i have no more problem with installing new apps.

janla said:
I had the same issue. Format SD/factory reset did not help in my case.
I hope "insufficient space" has gone from your device, nevertheless I suggest you to instal and run the FolderMount app anyway. When I ran it for the first time, it detected problem with writing on (fresh formatted) SD by non system apps and prompted for fixing it (I let). Since that i have no more problem with installing new apps.
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well as i wrote earlier it stopped showing me the insufficient space for a few days but then it came back...
i was pretty pissed and started deleting some apps to see if for real there is no free space, the same time you wrote this message, i saw it and installed foldermount app right away.
it really did find a corrupted file and a rule that prohibited acceess to sd card, i let it fix those both errors and after that till now i am able to install and updates apps without a problem.
not really sure if the problem was fixed because i deleted apps or from the foldermount app but its ok now. (i think foldermount worked its magic because i have done several big updates so i dont think that the fact i deleted some apps helped resolve this issue)
anyway. thanks a lot for your answer