Alright. I have been fiddling with the Android Kitchen and coding stuff into a custom ROM.
My question is this:
Since I am using another ROM as a base (not stock), would it be frowned upon if I were to make the ROM I cook up public, giving credit where credit is due of course?
Example, Eugene released a custom ROM, using the Juggernaut ROM as a base.
I would be doing the same thing, except not using the Juggernaut ROM as a base, however, I would be implementing other build.prop, init.d mods and tweaks found and developed by other users as well and the original developer of the ROM I am using as a base.
As long is credit is given where is it is due, is this acceptable, or would this be frowned upon? Would I get flamed for just copying and pasting other people's work into a ROM? The finished ROM would be very different from the original creator's ROM, different sounds, different theme, different apps included, different tweaks, status bar mods, etc etc etc.
Thanks for the input! I just don't want to step on any toes!
I'd say that this really depends on who wrote the rom you're using for a base. I'd ask them if it's ok for you to use their current rom as a base before I started posting anything, it's really the proper way to do it. If they say it's fine, and you give proper credit, I don't see a problem.
True enough. Perhaps it would just save a lot of trouble if I started with a stock base.
True. But it never hurts to ask, you may get a developer who lets you use his as a base. You never know until you ask
That's true.
I think I will be using a stock as base. Though. If I want to learn, that's the best way to do it!
Is there any consensus or do all JB ROMs have little annoyances?
I'm basically out in the dark and afraid to try flashing 10 roms because I might not get the steps right as far as flashing the right kernel in the right order to prevent the mmc bug from bricking my phone. I think if it were as simple as downloading a new rom and flashing it I wouldn't care but having to flash a different CWM version and a different kernel for every android version you're installing is too scary
You'll probably end up with a lot of negative posts about the way you asked and what you asked.
I'm saying this in the very politest way possible...
Look, nothing is "bugless". Just flash stock JB one click leaks and call it good.
It seems like you created the OP knowing that you would receive the negative responses so why not just go ahead and ask a Mod to close this for you.
This is why those that take XDA in what it is for, and do thier homework, and spend the energy and time to research what is available - you just smacked them in the face by saying "I'm not gonna.."
So thanks for being honest in the fact that you're admitting to being lazy but please don't insult everyone here and expect to be spoon fed the answer.
(And I'll go ahead and report myself for my response, since you probably won't have the energy to do so.)
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Flashing is scary? Then xda probably isnt the site for you...try the sprint forums:sly:
Btw IB4TL
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If you don't have the energy to read, study and learn, then XDA is not for you. Here, you are surrounded by hundreds if not thousands of people willing to help when you stumble or get stuck. Coming in and being dismissive of the work done by developers, themers, contributors and members is disingenuous and disrespectful. I should close this thread, but, you need answers, and already some have started, somewhat slyly, giving you direction.
We all hope you learn from your experience(s) from this thread as well as elsewhere in XDA, just be nice to others and remember the rules you agreed to uphold when you accepted membership.
Let's move on towards better things.
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If you don't have the energy to find a rom that suits your needs, we won't spend the time to help you. I normally would light a user up in threads like this, but I have been asked and have a responsibility to be nice.
You should read as much as possible and find what works for you. Every ROM is different.
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You had the energy to write this but couldn't read :what:
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graydiggy said:
If you don't have the energy to find a rom that suits your needs, we won't spend the time to help you. I normally would light a user up in threads like this, but I have been asked and have a responsibility to be nice.
You should read as much as possible and find what works for you. Every ROM is different.
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Yeah Graydiggy, you're a professional now . Smile and nod and be nice ha. :beer: brother
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You where warned!!!
Rewind and do yourself a favor, just go to the different rom threads and spend some time reading.
It's quite simple, if most of the post are members crying for help then you can deduce that that rom or build is buggy
You move on to the next one, here you read about great reviews and lots of praise, you chime in and ask questions.
It's that simple.
This is a good place for knowledge and information and an opportunity to have the coolest phone on the block!
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rancur3p1c said:
I don't have energy to flash 10 roms to figure out which one is best.
Is there any consensus or do all of them have little annoyances?
I'm basically out in the dark and afraid to try flashing 10 roms because I might not get the steps right as far as flashing the right kernel in the right order to prevent the mmc bug from bricking my phone. I think if it were as simple as downloading a new rom and flashing it I wouldn't care but having to flash a different CWM version and a different kernel for every android version you're installing is too scary
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I'll throw you a bone, despite my better judgement. If you want jellybean, there are really only two ways to go: aosp or touchwiz. I'd start with dastin's cm10.1 or kobridge's deodexed gb27. Most other ROMs on this forum use one of those as a base.
READ both threads and decide which suits you better. Then once you are more comfortable, expand out and try some other ROMs.
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Flashing is scary? Then xda probably isnt the site for you...try the sprint forums:sly:
Btw IB4TL
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I've flashed several other phones no problems but never had to worry about flashing certain kernels before doing a backup, or another kernel to change to a JB ROM, and then having to install a supported radio, during any of which I might need to do a data wipe, which will brick the phone.
As far as I can tell I need to have 3 safe kernels+ recoveries (for jb, ics, and gb) for use Any time I want to change ROMs and wipe data, and then a different radio for each kernel version?
Many of the threads don't explain this succinctly as I just put it, and many are out of date as well, hence some of my frustration.
But thank you for the replies that you all have replied.
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I'll throw you a bone, despite my better judgement. If you want jellybean, there are really only two ways to go: aosp or touchwiz. I'd start with dastin's cm10.1 or kobridge's deodexed gb27. Most other ROMs on this forum use one of those as a base.
READ both threads and decide which suits you better. Then once you are more comfortable, expand out and try some other ROMs.
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Thanks. Any pointers for GB based ROMs? They are wayyyy old.
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Thanks. Any pointers for GB based ROMs? They are wayyyy old.
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I'll throw you a bone too. It's all about personal taste, but I really like Venum's epic venum, and TN's xplod xe. There are many good GB Roms! Many! Those are just a couple that I like, and they are stable and the devs are amazing. Happy flashing! Now go read! ! !
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rancur3p1c said:
I've flashed several other phones no problems but never had to worry about flashing certain kernels before doing a backup, or another kernel to change to a JB ROM, and then having to install a supported radio, during any of which I might need to do a data wipe, which will brick the phone.
As far as I can tell I need to have 3 safe kernels+ recoveries (for jb, ics, and gb) for use Any time I want to change ROMs and wipe data, and then a different radio for each kernel version?
Many of the threads don't explain this succinctly as I just put it, and many are out of date as well, hence some of my frustration.
But thank you for the replies that you all have replied.
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Are you kidding me? Out of date?! Almost any thing you will find that is within the first 4 pages of any section of the E4GT forum is not out of date when it applies to a specific ROM or tutorial depending on what you are looking for. You are making up excuses. C'mon man. Throw us a bone. We have been here for quite some time and know the ins and outs of this section. Even people that don't have the E4GT anymore know this stuff... The Emmc bug is not an issue as long as you read the OP of anything. Do you think we are that gullible? I'm not joking when i say that the only way to brick this device is to either not read, or to flash something that is for a different device. If you are worried about outdated stuff, something that we don't have now, then you shouldn't be worried about flashing anything and should focus on reading. We are not just going to give it to you without you taking the effort to try for yourself.
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rancur3p1c said:
I've flashed several other phones no problems but never had to worry about flashing certain kernels before doing a backup, or another kernel to change to a JB ROM, and then having to install a supported radio, during any of which I might need to do a data wipe, which will brick the phone.
As far as I can tell I need to have 3 safe kernels+ recoveries (for jb, ics, and gb) for use Any time I want to change ROMs and wipe data, and then a different radio for each kernel version?
Many of the threads don't explain this succinctly as I just put it, and many are out of date as well, hence some of my frustration.
But thank you for the replies that you all have replied.
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You need 3 kernels, 2 modems, and any number of ROMs you may want to run:
Roms include a kernel that will boot. You only need other kernels for flashing.
Kernels-
El26+cwm- the idiot proof recovery kernel. Can flash anything with it. Will not boot ICS or jb ROMs.
El29 directboot- easy recovery kernel. Can flash anything except modems. Also used for the el29 tempboot, which is an easy way to update profile/prl. Will not boot any ROMs, instead it goes directly to recovery without pressing any extra buttons.
GB08 stock-daily driver kernel for touchwiz jellybean. Does not include custom recovery and can't be used for any flashing. Must be used when flashing mods for jellybean touchwiz in order for the ROM to boot.
Modems-
FL24 - latest ICS modem. An ICS (or gingerbread) modem is required for 3g/4g data on aosp ROMs or touchwiz ICS/gingerbread
GB27 - latest jellybean modem. A jellybean modern is required for 3g/4g data on touchwiz jellybean ROMs.
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Are you kidding me? Out of date?! Almost any thing you will find that is within the first 4 pages of any section of the E4GT forum is not out of date when it applies to a specific ROM or tutorial depending on what you are looking for. You are making up excuses. C'mon man. Throw us a bone. We have been here for quite some time and know the ins and outs of this section. Even people that don't have the E4GT anymore know this stuff... The Emmc bug is not an issue as long as you read the OP of anything. Do you think we are that gullible? I'm not joking when i say that the only way to brick this device is to either not read, or to flash something that is for a different device. If you are worried about outdated stuff, something that we don't have now, then you shouldn't be worried about flashing anything and should focus on reading. We are not just going to give it to you without you taking the effort to try for yourself.
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There are 4 threads all linking to each other all saying similar but slightly different things. One says you MUST flash from a supported cwm when doing a zip flash. Another says mobileOdin will WARN you if mmc might happen (wtf does that mean?), another says mobileOdin can do it if the ROM can do it, another says if you're flashing from anything but el26 you WILL brick your phone, another says download this app it will tell you, but wait I rooted and installed a safe CWM + kernel before I ran the app test, but for some reason my kernel version number didn't change, so maybe the cwm kernel is different from the phone kernel so maybe I need 6 downloads ready- 3 cwms+ safe kernels, and then 3 kernels for daily driving in the ROM one for jb, ics, gb, but there are probably 4-5 to choose from for each so we're looking at 20 downloads easy.
As you can see its all quite a cluster and difficult to parse for new VM users late to the game who are just jumping in now.
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You need 3 kernels, 2 modems, and any number of ROMs you may want to run:
Roms include a kernel that will boot. You only need other kernels for flashing.
Kernels-
El26+cwm- the idiot proof recovery kernel. Can flash anything with it. Will not boot ICS or jb ROMs.
El29 directboot- easy recovery kernel. Can flash anything except modems. Also used for the el29 tempboot, which is an easy way to update profile/prl. Will not boot any ROMs, instead it goes directly to recovery without pressing any extra buttons.
GB08 stock-daily driver kernel for touchwiz jellybean. Does not include custom recovery and can't be used for any flashing. Must be used when flashing mods for jellybean touchwiz in order for the ROM to boot.
Modems-
FL24 - latest ICS modem. An ICS (or gingerbread) modem is required for 3g/4g data on aosp ROMs or touchwiz ICS/gingerbread
GB27 - latest jellybean modem. A jellybean modern is required for 3g/4g data on touchwiz jellybean ROMs.
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Wow thanks dude.
Others-- This is what I'm talking about! This information is split across at least 3 or so 15+ page threads, which have only a handful of useful posts.
Maybe if I get some time ill try to make one noob thread to rule them all and track down the mods until they depricate the old ones.
tis all way out of hand really, and I've made it worse by creating this thread
You're making this way harder than it needs to be. All you need is the el26+cwm for recovery and a kernel matching your rom type gb/ics/jb if you flash a mod. That's it. Stop making everything harder than it is and exaggerating the number of downloads. Hell if your not a total idiot all you need is el26+cwm and the rom you can pull the boot image right from your rom zip and replace the one in a copy of the el26 zip and you got a flashable kernel for your rom. Good god I didn't know it was possible for someone to be so dense. Oh wait, wait, yes I did. I see it at least once a day around here but usually 5 or more times. :banghead:
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I havent been on here for a while and currently on MOAR rom, i love it but i been having wifi issues with it. My wifi disconnects every hour or so, so i cant download things.
Im thinking about flashing CM/AOSP rom but would like to know which is most stable and if i can use Morphology with CM/AOSP roms.Or is there any barebone stable Twiz roms that i can use Morphology with.
Thanx in advance.
Oh, and what is AIO Aroma?Is this Aroma installer for AOSP roms? And does it have theming like morphology?
There is no "most stable [type here] rom", they're all good
But generally its a good idea to stay on builds up to the latest official version (aka 4.1.2), because anything above that will be prone to issues
Aroma installer is like an installer customizer for android...it let's the dev give you options about how to install it, what to install, etc. And no, it's not restricted to AOSP roms, it can be added to any flashable zip (rom, mod, theme, etc)
AIO just means all in one
Its not the MOAR ROM I'm on it w no WiFi issues, i think flashing another ROM will not fix your issue. I can't remember if 2.3 MOAR came with the connection optimizer or not. If it did make sure you disable it.
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There is no "most stable [type here] rom", they're all good
But generally its a good idea to stay on builds up to the latest official version (aka 4.1.2), because anything above that will be prone to issues
Aroma installer is like an installer customizer for android...it let's the dev give you options about how to install it, what to install, etc. And no, it's not restricted to AOSP roms, it can be added to any flashable zip (rom, mod, theme, etc)
AIO just means all in one
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Im downloading SlimBean 4.2.2, so far people have no issues with it,can u recommend 4.1.2 rom?I know that last stable CM biuld was about 2 months ago,is there any good nightly builds or would i be better off with old stable CM?
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Its not the MOAR ROM I'm on it w no WiFi issues, i think flashing another ROM will not fix your issue. I can't remember if 2.3 MOAR came with the connection optimizer or not. If it did make sure you disable it.
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I was on Sonic rom before and had no problems,but with Moar my fifi disconnects and reconnects once in a while.Maybe i just had a bad flash or wrong kernel,im on latest Agat.
Is there any roms that will let me connect my phone via usb to ps3 to copy files? I remember it could before ics update, isc uses new protocol so it cant connect to ps3 as mass storage.On my JB GS2 rom they have old mass storage protocol baked in but i havent seen this on S3 roms yet.
lviv73 said:
Im downloading SlimBean 4.2.2, so far people have no issues with it,can u recommend 4.1.2 rom?I know that last stable CM biuld was about 2 months ago,is there any good nightly builds or would i be better off with old stable CM?
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Honestly, I can't say, it just depends on what you're looking for. If maximum stability is a must, then the old CM would do the trick . I would just recommend going through the last couple pages for LiquidSmooth to get a sense for any bugs that have been fixed or are still present
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In my opinion, as of late, most AOSP ROMs will lock up your phone or won't run smoothly.
Go with older builds that don't include the 3.4 kernel. All run smooth.
I ported Pure AOSP ROM if your looking for something no bells no whistles just Google its like a Galaxy Nexus for our SGS3
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Please include build date if its a particular build also please include any modifications u do. Like new kernel or tweaks. Also for kickers include radio version.
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Really...its all preference ....so start flashing and find out.
Everyone's opinion will be different.
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pro bam cool new rom
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Please include build date if its a particular build also please include any modifications u do. Like new kernel or tweaks. Also for kickers include radio version.
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ive been using pro bam 4.3 rom and it has been great. except for battery running out a little fast but am giving it a few days for the rom to settle in!
PA 3.99
I have been messing around with a lot of 4.3 roms and pretty much all of them have the same stability. As for me, I prefer PA (Paranoid Android) 3.99 and PAC Rom but more toward PA 3.99 because it just seem slightly less buggy and bit smoother. Again, to each their own at this point since there is no official 4.3 for this device.
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Please include build date if its a particular build also please include any modifications u do. Like new kernel or tweaks. Also for kickers include radio version.
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I've been using Hellybean , always you the latest, no issues. Love it.
As others have said its really just a preference thing. I have been trying out a few different ROMs, just to see which ones I like the most, especially 4.3 versions. I have been using [ROM] Unofficial | CyanogenMod 10.2 | Diablo Kernel [09-23-13] from ThdDude for the past day or two and havent had any issues to speak of. I really like that it has the Diablo Kernel compiled. I have noticed though that for some reason when I was trying to Flash 4.3 ROMs with CWM the system would boot but then go black and would have to go into recovery. I finally decided to give TWRP a try and havent experienced any problems flashing 4.3 ROMs. I have actually really been enjoying it and have some real respect for the developers.
stable 4.3 roms
The best I have used is the 9/26 aokp by whitehawkz along with uber kernel. Running 2.6.3.0 twrp. Especially like the active notifications with no problems.
There is no BEST and yet they are all the BEST. Members are expected to research and read through the development threads before altering their device. The only thing you will get here is a list of all the ROM's because every member has found what is best for them. You can get the same list by looking at the first few pages in development.
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