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Heat Haze On Most of Front Screen Anyone else seen this ?

I have a strange issue with my touch pro2 which i have never seen before on any of my previous phones i.e. TYTNII / Vario II etc,
If i hold the phone horizontal to the eye then i can see a kind of heat / rainbow haze covering the middle of the screen apart from about a 1cm clear part going all around to the edge. So basically the middle part. You can only see this in certain light or looking closely with the phone titled horizontally to the eye. I have taken the screen protector off to ensure it is not this reflecting and it is still there with this removed.
I cant see that this is normal, the phone only gets used for the normal stuff like internet sharing, calls, music streaming etc.
any help appreciated before i give mobile phones direct or HTC a call.
Thanks

noticed the same on mine mate, can't say it affected anything so wasnt really bothered with it.

I can only see it in artificial light but surely this cannot be right ?
it looks as though it has over heated or something.
Waiting on a call from Both HTC and Mobilephonesdirect see what they say.

I have attached a screen shot so everyone can see, pic taken with my trusty Kaiser.
This has had the screen cover from day one and never been near any water.
Any thoughts.

I´ve heard before of this behaivour
Here a Rapahel with sometinhg similar
Not sure what is really causing it

is that your phone ? are you getting it repaired ?
very weird problem..

Wow. That is wild. I have never seen such a thing. Good luck with that.

I have seen similar in the past but only on my tytn which I replaced the screen on,
it did disappear after a few days of it being there tho,
if you still have your screen protector on have you tried removing it?
orb3000, could you edit your image and make it a little smaller? it took over the screen lol
Cheers Steve

I had this with my axim 50v. It was caused by pressure on the touchscreen, in my case caused by the belt pouch i kept it in. It didn't do any damage and cleared up if the device was left for a while without anything pressing onto the screen.
If u keep the phone in ur pocket then try carrying it screen side out (ie, not towards ur body)

it looks as though there is some sort of air or moisture between the outer screen and the inner as if i press on a corner i can see the haze move. So looks as though somehow it has come off of something if that makes sense....
have now emailed HTC and will see what they come back with, left a voice mail and emailed mobilephonesdirect and heard nothing from them. Shame really as thought they were a good company. Always the same though good at taking the money never good at supporting, so true for a lot companies these days.
Thanks

to me it really just looks like excessive area pressure over time, displacing the goo in the touchscreen. (at least i think there is goo in them seperating the sensing layers)

not been pressed against anything only in the belt clip it comes with. never had any of this with my previous phones and my kaiser is still ok 2 years after buying it. Seems a bit of a design flaw.

I had this problem with my Kaiser. Must be someting to do with the touch layer. Never fixed it as it was not a problem under normal light and when u see the phone in a normal angle. (Not to diss your problem report hehe)

It can really stand out in certain conditions, I will see what HTC say as I have emailed them the picture. Its and expensive item which something like this should not happen.
when you press the corner of the screen the haze/rainbow effect moves so it is definately something that has come away but underneath a few layers.
When i get a response i will post it here as maybe of use to others.

HTC's official response, this phone like my TYTnII has only been used in the belt clip and yet apparently this is my fault due to much pressure!?! Which of course is utter rubbish.
Quote from HTC.
Thank you for contacting HTC Technical support Centre.
The device needs to be examined under our Engineers to determine whether it'll be treated as IW or OOW case. But from our experience, we can tell that it's Newton ring which is OOW case. You'll be receiving an email from the RC to tell you how much it costs to get repaired. You can choose whether to pay or to reject the quotation and if you reject it you'll only pay for the diagnostic fees and the courier and both takes up to 15 pounds.
In case you needed any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact is on our Hotline, < 0845 890 0079 >, or visit our Website, < www.htc.com >.
Respects and Regards;
HTC Technical Support Team

After sending my phone back to HTC they have repaired this within the warranty so free of charge, in fact they have sent me a new phone i think as all imei numbers have changed and rom is newer.
There was obviously something wrong with the phone for it to go like it did.

Awe, shoot. I was hoping the Touch Pro 2 to not have this problem. It is called the newton ring and virtually every HTC device gets this problem. It is INDEED a problem, and it even voids your warranty at time.

Newton Ring?
Are you saying that it does VOID your warranty. Mine started doing this and quickly has now covered all the screen but the edge all the way around. I am going to call repair center tomorrow and find out for sure.
I will post their response to my call.

HTC did replace the phone, in fact the one they sent out done the same thing within 4 weeks so i sent this one back as well. They repaired this one also, although they just replaced the screen this time. At present a few months down the line i have not had the newton ring back.
I wont be buying another HTC phone now based on the awful problems I have had with this TP2, i am now on my 3rd. I have had HTC phones for the past 6 years and never had an issue like this.
HTC have become very sloppy lately in quality when releasing phones. Hopefully this will change.

Argh. Mine just hit this 2 days ago. I've owned it since October.
It's almost a perfect rectangle with a 1cm border except for the bottom where it's maybe 2mm from the screen edge.
I'll be bringing it back to a Verizon store and hopefully they'll swap it out.

Is it just me or does build quality suck?

I've just recieved my replacement for my first HTC desire which had a dead pixel near the top of the screen (wish i kept it, such a minor issue :S) - I got it replaced for a new HTC desire which arrived today, which hs dust under the screen right in the middle of it - a bigger problem.
2 Phones unlucky, and managed to convince TMobile CS to replacve it as opposed to repair, so, I'm getting yet another one tomorrow.
Has anyone recieved a faulty replaement for a faulty phone or is it just me? :S
First HTC phone, very very bad experience, feel like cancelling it :/ (then again miainly for Tmobiles partially ****e coverage)

Funny, mines the most solid phone I've ever had, and I'm a long time Nokia user.

I'm not denying its solid, but one most annoying issue on a phone like this is the screen, and to have a faulty screen twice sucks.
I'm also worried HTC are rushing out desires now, so build quality/batch testing is effected - another reason i regret just sending my old one off now grrrrr :S

I'm guessing you're an unlucky chap. My Desire is of excelent build quality, no dust whatsoever. The backside locks firmly to the body, covering the battery verry well.

Every product has stories of unlucky customers. For me the three HTCs ive had have been the best built and most reliable phones ive had.

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I'm not denying its solid
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Well, it seems you're using the wrong wording. A dead pixel has nothing to do with build quality...they don't make the screens they buy them from a third party. Dust under the screen, again a rare occurrence that happens to the best devices. You had some back luck, but the consensus seems to be that you're an isolated incident.

Still asleep - but yeah, you're right, typically I'd use build quality to assess how solid it feels and its qualty, it does feel solid, not plasticy. However Dust does describe something not working correctly in the bulding process, but yeah - isolated - doubt a whole batch would have such an issue.
Trying to remember what word to use to describe my scenario
They say third time lucky, hopefully that one will work, since HTC desire is the ultiamte phone atm, and if i'm going to invest in a phone now might aswell invest it into an android. Failing that, might sell it on ebay or equivelant

There are worse things than dust that could get under the screen.
Imagine if the person assembling it, sneezed! :O

oh shiiiiiiii lol!

FloatingFatMan said:
There are worse things than dust that could get under the screen.
Imagine if the person assembling it, sneezed! :O
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Did that when putting on an Invisible Shield on my Creative M3 player...was angry for several months after that.

Funny, mines the most solid phone I've ever had, and I'm a long time Nokia user.
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Eh, exact same here with the addition that I'm a long time Sony /HTC user too. Very solid phone tis.
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Nelsaidi said:
I've just recieved my replacement for my first HTC desire which had a dead pixel near the top of the screen (wish i kept it, such a minor issue :S) - I got it replaced for a new HTC desire which arrived today, which hs dust under the screen right in the middle of it - a bigger problem.
2 Phones unlucky, and managed to convince TMobile CS to replacve it as opposed to repair, so, I'm getting yet another one tomorrow.
Has anyone recieved a faulty replaement for a faulty phone or is it just me? :S
First HTC phone, very very bad experience, feel like cancelling it :/ (then again miainly for Tmobiles partially ****e coverage)
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It's not just you, I've had exactly the same problems but the other way around. The first phone I received had dust under the screen, replaced it and now have a dead pixel. I however prefered the first one because I couldn't notice it as much.
I'm getting my third as well but they are CONSTANTLY out of stock. Both times I've received the phone I've asked to have it replaced within a few hours of receiving it (after charging and noticing the problem) and both times they've been out of stock for about a week afterwards (vodafone uk). I mean its good if there is lots of demand for this device but I just want to get one for myself that is fine out the box!
Like you said 3rd time lucky i hope!

Unlucky about that
I waited 2 weeks to get my first replaced, failing that the third you can send of to HTC for repairs, or ebay it and end up with a cheap contact.

It's you. Build quality is very good.

I find the build quality is not the best.
On front screen above the back/search button. I can see key back light coming out of a tinny hole, where the bottom part, the so called chin connects to the screen body. Then on the top left and bottom right of the battery cover. It doesn't seem to fit as tight as on top right and bottom left. I'd say that poor build quality.

I guess the word yous are looking for are "poor QC"
and when someone mentioned sneezing, I remember some article about some poor dude finding squished bug inside a screen on a vaio laptop LOL.

Dust under screen

I've got some dust under my desires screen i know this is a problem on some htc phones but thought htc had sorted it on the desire.
Has anyone else got the issue and if so is it covered on warranty? How long do htc take to repair as i go away in 2 weeks and need my phone for sat nav
Ta in advance chris
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Got the same issue and would be interested if someone knew a way to clean it up...

I had this and HTC did repair it under warranty. The took about 10 days from collection to delivery but it is a bit hit and miss.

i read since the beginning that some have this problem.
Thank god, i don't have it. And i don't use a case and have it most of the time in my dusty pockets. So, it seems that some phones just work right, no dust under screen, and some not. This should be fixed by the warranty, don't try to fix it yourself.
I had this 3 times with other phones (non HTC), and it always looked like it's not between the cover and the display, it looked like it's in the display. I got it fixed on one, they replaced the whole display ...

defo can be hit and miss. some people got the phone back with more dust in it since the repair guys tried to clean it in a non-clean room.
if its not very bad I would leave it. I have small bit of dust bit only visible in direct sunlight. thought about sending it back. they would not give me a new phone but said they would try and repair it. it would take 3 weeks. I decided to live with it.

mancuk29 said:
I've got some dust under my desires screen i know this is a problem on some htc phones but thought htc had sorted it on the desire.
Has anyone else got the issue and if so is it covered on warranty? How long do htc take to repair as i go away in 2 weeks and need my phone for sat nav
Ta in advance chris
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I have a small particle of dust under my screen which is only visible when the phone is off or in standby mode.
It is probably worth bearing in mind that I have had three Desires and all suffered from this problem.
It's on visible if you really look for it, but once you know it is there it does become annoying.
You can send it away to be cleaned, but as others have mentioned, some have reported their phone being returned with even more dust. This is why I have refrained from sending mine away to be cleaned.
I think the dust gets under the screen during the manufacturing process as all three handsets I have had have suffered from dust under the screen upon removal from the box and none of them got any extra dust under the screen as time went on.
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[Q] dead/stuck pixels, how common are they on the Defy??

Hi, I have my Defy for about a month and just now noticed 2 tiny stuck pixels of green/blue colour. They are actually visible only on black screen and in normal usage you can only find them if you know where they are, otherwise it only looks like a tiny particle of dust.
Since I only noticed it now it's too late for me to send it back
Have tried different software solutions and ran them over some nights, but nothing helped. So it seems they are permanent. I'm still on stock firwmare and havent flashed it yet.
It's sort of psychological thing... personally, I find it frustrating and it pisses me off because I know the problem is there and I have paid the full price for the phone to be perfect.
I was wondering how many of you experienced this and is there any chance that motorola would cover this problem under warrianty (in EU)?

My first Defy got a stuck pixel within the first week of me owning it. I phoned T-Mo and they sent me a replacement the next day. Before I did that though, I asked a T-Mo employee in one of their shops about it. He told me that if I couldn't get it sorted over the phone, to come back into the shop and they would help me get it replaced under warranty.
I don't really know how it all works but that was just my situation - hopefully it's of some use.

My defy that I just sold had two dead white pixels. One in the middle of the screen and one about the height of the volume rocker. Only visible on black screen though.
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Recently Dropped Phone...

Hey guys,
Recently I dropped my phone when putting it into my pocket (somehow...). I never have dropped it before... and I believe it dropped on the top left corner. I can see a small crack, and the touchscreen is completely non-reactive + LCD colour was green, then pink, now it doesn't even display anything. Everything else seems to work though (getting calls, messages, volume works, buttons work...) except the screen.
Seeing as I'm not too savvy in terms of phones... is it worth it to get it repaired? I have no warranty so it would have to be a repair shop... how much would be a reasonable price for such services? I'm leaning to buy a new phone depending if it's worth it... but the feeling if a simple singular drop from the waist is enough to end the life of a perfectly working $800 device (bought it outright...) makes me extremely upset.

Might be LCD :/
Vinhwut said:
Hey guys,
Recently I dropped my phone when putting it into my pocket (somehow...). I never have dropped it before... and I believe it dropped on the top left corner. I can see a small crack, and the touchscreen is completely non-reactive + LCD colour was green, then pink, now it doesn't even display anything. Everything else seems to work though (getting calls, messages, volume works, buttons work...) except the screen.
Seeing as I'm not too savvy in terms of phones... is it worth it to get it repaired? I have no warranty so it would have to be a repair shop... how much would be a reasonable price for such services? I'm leaning to buy a new phone depending if it's worth it... but the feeling if a simple singular drop from the waist is enough to end the life of a perfectly working $800 device (bought it outright...) makes me extremely upset.
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Hey, that stinks......something similar happened to me. I dropped my phone and chipped the corner, the screen did not work after that. I was out of warranty so I just decided to fix it at a local store for 150.00........better than buying full price for a phone.
Good luck

You paid 800$? I got mine off eBay for 300$ brand new. You can find repair services on eBay for decent prices, its the LCD that's going to cost you .
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If you want to be adventurous, you can look at YouTube for guides for taking apart the screen. But this should be your last option.
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