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i am planning on buying a new phone [HTC salsa / wildfire s ] [samsung ace / wave 2(non-droid)] this month , but these new phones are not being supported by cm7(yet) i definitely want cm7 on my next phone too ....
**so my question is will they be supported BY CM7 at least after a certain time duration (at least htc phones)
***how much duration did CM6 take to support our WILDFIRE after the release of our phone (approx)
****how much duration did our GR8 DEV's take to fill our wildfire with custom roms ([in general]just want to know how much time a htc phone takes to get full dev's support)
+1 for reasonable answers thank you in adv
If you have the budget for a Salsa, why don't you get a Nexus S?
Technically, both Salsa and Wildfire S *should* get CM7, but, seeing their respective forums, it seems the interest in these 2 devices are pretty low (Atleast at this point of time), and there's no root yet. (Alpharev X failed on the Wildfire S). However, as in every case, there is no time frame, because, not every HTC phone is the same. (High end phones like Sensation are already filled with Custom ROMs, but the 2 you listed dont have any)
Tbh, the wildfire community is pretty... bleh, although i kinda miss it a bit, i just sold it yesterday, but the amount of roms that were released... most were... pretty much just rooted stock roms with the same/similar features, or just themed.
Not saying all roms are like that, wildpuzzle, DK, the GB sense and the AOSP roms are the awesome ones with the actual 'devs' (these are the ones worth looking at and should be thanking them too )
What is your budget anyway? I'd prob get a Desire S or something, the Wildfire S is pretty much like the legend, and the samsung ace is... crap. , or get a higher end phone >=D
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If you have the budget for a Salsa, why don't you get a Nexus S?
Technically, both Salsa and Wildfire S *should* get CM7, but, seeing their respective forums, it seems the interest in these 2 devices are pretty low (Atleast at this point of time), and there's no root yet. (Alpharev X failed on the Wildfire S). However, as in every case, there is no time frame, because, not every HTC phone is the same. (High end phones like Sensation are already filled with Custom ROMs, but the 2 you listed dont have any)
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i am confused salsa is around 19k but nexus s is at 28k..there is a lot difference (source : http://univercell.in) i plan on talking a phone around 20k..
yes I've seen both their forums pretty less posts there when compared to ours back then.... i still cant find a perfect phone like our wildfire yet...i don't mind about s-off but want to keep my phone busy using numerous rom's...if not for this reason i wouldn't have been on android
anyway thank you for your suggestion (+1)
kevin2516 said:
Tbh, the wildfire community is pretty... bleh, although i kinda miss it a bit, i just sold it yesterday, but the amount of roms that were released... most were... pretty much just rooted stock roms with the same/similar features, or just themed.
Not saying all roms are like that, wildpuzzle, DK, the GB sense and the AOSP roms are the awesome ones with the actual 'devs' (these are the ones worth looking at and should be thanking them too )
What is your budget anyway? I'd prob get a Desire S or something, the Wildfire S is pretty much like the legend, and the samsung ace is... crap. , or get a higher end phone >=D
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desire s is a pretty good choice but it is a lil bit above my budget ...although i can wait for long time and buy it.. & there are pretty good rom's available too
thank you for your suggestions (+1) i will keep desire S as a final shot
vimjam said:
i am confused salsa is around 19k but nexus s is at 28k..there is a lot difference (source : http://univercell.in) i plan on talking a phone around 20k..
yes I've seen both their forums pretty less posts there when compared to ours back then.... i still cant find a perfect phone like our wildfire yet...i don't mind about s-off but want to keep my phone busy using numerous rom's...if not for this reason i wouldn't have been on android
anyway thank you for your suggestion (+1)
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Nexus S is 20K.
http://bit.ly/qotXIi
(You can blindly trust Flipkart, have an awesome experience with them, and purchased my Wildfire from them back in Oct (Sadly for 15k )
Also, other stores like LetsBuy, Infibeam are also having it for ~20K.(Haven't purchased from them, so I cant state what experience you may have) Univercell's Price list is definitely way outdated.
Probably the only thing you will miss on the Nexus S is Sense, but then, you are after AOSP ROM's only, so Nexus being a Google phone, is a heaven for AOSP ROMs.
that's awesome news ... i am not a sense fan anyway ... well i will go for nexus s for sure
thank you again
edit ut of luck.. flipkart shows that this phone is out of stock ... will have to try somewhere else
OMG, it was in stock when I posted the link! I am 101% sure!!
That's bad luck anyhow, I guess you can look elsewhere, or, be a bit more patient.
Check mysmartprice.com
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OMG, it was in stock when I posted the link! I am 101% sure!!
That's bad luck anyhow, I guess you can look elsewhere, or, be a bit more patient.
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hehe guess nexus s is selling like hot cakes
sure ill try somewhere else...
whoa not available in flipkart , letsbuy , and even univercell ...
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Check mysmartprice.com
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oh sure ill check that ... thanks a lot(+1)
It's available at Infibeam, but the price is 21k.
Still, I am pretty sure it will be back in stock soon at flipkart. BTW, did you try your local stores?
people don't even know nexus s ...except for branded stores
no luck at the local stores too...guess ill wait a bit long and see if any stock are available later
sadly just had a email from htc today sayin this
"I can confirm that this update will not allow you to unlock the bootloader of this device with the Bootloader unlock software . Chances are this will not happen, we only plan to allow bootloader unlocking with new and upcoming devices."
so looks like we either have to xtc clip this phone or for someone with more brains then htc to come along and solve this
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so looks like we either have to xtc clip this phone or for someone with more brains then htc to come along and solve this
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We have one more solution. We can sell this Wildfire S(sh*t) and buy some other phone.
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no one will buy it. with new Nokia phones with so much storage and have 1ghz. plus so many prefer an iPhone look ace.
lol i was thinking the same thing
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so looks like we ... have to xtc clip this phone
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I'm going to Thailand for vacation next week. I'm hoping to find a phone shop that has one. Tired of waiting.
there is a shop down the road from me that does it so if your in north london enfield you would be laughing.
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We have one more solution. We can sell this Wildfire S(sh*t) and buy some other phone.
Sent from HTC
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sold my wildfire s few days ago..
im moving to Galaxy tab 7.0 Plus.. getting my unit this saturday..
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We have one more solution. We can sell this Wildfire S(sh*t) and buy some other phone.
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I already told myself, that I won't buy another HTC phone... that was like 3 phones ago.
If you want to do it do it right.
Who wants just an unlocked bootloader anyways?
S-OFF/Super CID/Unlocked SIM. XTC clip delivers and the price has dropped considerably. I got mine for $55.00 US and did 3 phones so far with it.
One thing I've learned from this forum and from years of working with computers and electronics is most of the time the stock solution...sucks.
CM7.2, custom parititions, link2sd. All have made this a great little phone. All because of clipping it.
Got a Galaxy s II now but can't use it till its my birthday which is just over a week away :'(
I ditched this sack of crap phone and got another HD2 and flashed NAND Android.
The HD2's ported android roms have far more functionality than the WFS (a dedicated Android device) thanks to years of effort from XDA devs also none of that S-on & off crap.
Edit: its been reported that at&t is indeed blocking the unlock for their version of this device.
The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
EDIT: Willyami found this, I'm happy to hear temp-root is already achieved. Yet the article still states we need bootloader unlock or S OFF for perm root...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
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The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
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Absolutely agree with you dude. As a result of so few devs over there, I still haven't unlocked and rooted my Vivid.
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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Yeah, maybe for you. But this is a development site. we're here to develop and make the device as badass as possible. The phone will be enjoyed for sure. but enjoyed more with it rooted Running a CoreDroid Rom
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
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Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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lol easier to talk the talk than walk the walk. I had the same mindset you did, but two/three months of the same old thing and same old sense really sucked. Try it if you don't believe me.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
Unfortunately, that is only temp root. It is not a permanent root solution. This link is the exact method described in the article and its from this forums dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562470
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uranis said:
Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
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A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
420kushking said:
I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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That's temp root, not perm root. The article states we still need S OFF or htcdev unlock for perm root.
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A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
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Yeah that's what I look for. I was lucky for getting a captivate a while back, it was my first android device and I loved doing the customization. I'll be happy with this phone but I'm really looking forward to the development.
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Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
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HTC have already released the source code to the Sensation ICS kernel, and it's not even properly rolled out yet. Doesn't seem laggy to me
Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
Another pro argument might be that this will be a real flagship device. As we all know, htc released much too many phones in 2011 (close to 50 I heard in an xda-tv episode ) and they realized the problems that come with such an approach.
The vivid or the rezound might just have been skipped by most devs, some of the better are even still on the 2 year old HD2.
I really hope that this will be the next HD2, it's got all the potential to be the next best phone ever.
I believe that HTC are changing and learning. If you see the communications between them and XDA over the last year, if you see the HTCDev site, if you see the list of ICS updates, if you see the API's they are releasing, etc.
If you look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXgL7MDsIc Jeff clearly says it will be unlocked.
Also I agree with their reasoning for locking the boot loader, and as long as they release the unlock tool I think its a good process to ensure only those who know and accept the consequences will use it.
PS. Also the HTC One X is not tied to a partner so it should give HTC full control of what they do with it. Were as the HTC One XL is tied to AT&T so it may mean for that device its more complicated a process to get AT&T to agree to unlock the boot loader.
The "One" series must have been made for something, didn't they say they are trying to make their phones more recognisable too? In that case, it makes perfect sense to not release 50 phones a year (or one every week), as that really tarnishes the brand
i've never unlocked a phone on htcdev, but it has a generic unlock option.
you have to submit an identifier token you can query with fastboot, and you are getting a unlock binary sent by email which you can flash with fastboot to unlock the phone. if the hboot of the phone supports this.
seems very generic to me, and i guess you can already unlock a htc-one device using this method
Edit: Ops! I am wrong... please see later posts! Sorry blubbers!
vegetaleb said:
Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
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A custom rom means nothing. Did you even read the article or my post?? It says you still need s off or bootloader unlock for permanent root. Modaco only found temp root.
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Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
hackjunk said:
Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
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The M8 was like this when it first came out. Yes Verizon is strict. From what I have been told they are trying to find a Temporary Root Exploit to be able to S-Off and all that goodness. We just have to be patient like the First Model M8 people were. Luckily when I first got my M8 it was rootable and stuff. So just be patient, or feel free to donate to jcase and beaups to help buy them energy drinks.
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
Tigerstown said:
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
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What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
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Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
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As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
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What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isn't bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isn't atrocious
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Yeah, I'm liking the stock setup, but I just like having that option of I wanted!
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As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
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Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
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Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
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So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
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So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
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The way Samsung complicates settings drives me bonkers. It just doesn't need to be that complicated.
I'm in S6 trial week. Lol. So far not impressed. The so called super snappy touchwiz has a laggy keyboard whether stock or google. Also don't get me started on Chrome browser lag. Little things here and there that are non existent on even the m8. Overall its snappy but it still has annoying hicups here and there. Gonna take a miracle for me not to exchange for an m9 next weekend.
I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?
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I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?
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No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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Worth every $0.01 (2500 pennies).
dottat said:
No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
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Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
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I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant...But I kept reading WHY and immediately understood and paid right away. It separates guys like us who pay their pledge from people who DON'T. As I am sure you would EASILY pay the $25 to get S-OFF. I know I would. I almost prefer it this way, because im pretty much sure it comes with tech support for those who need it. If only more americans stood by their word instead of promising things they would never fulfill. I know that this community has always been about contributing and free things to make all of our experiences better. I get that, but all too often, people take the work and claim it to be theirs. I remember a few devs (that I talked to a lot) had this problem with users of the Samsung Moment and HTC Evo 4G. So between all of the devs hard work not being appreciated (especially when they do this stuff for THEIR phone and they release it to us to enjoy and some people are always complaining or demanding features, yet they don't contribute by donating to the dev so they can buy energy drinks to keep their mind going, or beer to help relax them after they finished a massive update that fixed all the bugs and added features and stuff. Then people wonder why they have to pay $25. Well I have been a member of XDA for years, contributed a lot here or on irc chat, and I will gladly pay $25 to get S-OFF, Root, and Custom Recovery. Why? Because since the DAWN of xda, everyones phone has been made far better then what ANY manufacturer gives us. I mean seriously...I would have Android Lollipop on devices that Samsung or whoever has long gone moved on from. Why? Because of XDA, and the devs. I swear if everyone paid $25 these devs would be able to buy all sorts of devices to root for us. I know I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro, and an HTC. So I appreciate it, and you know what? I consider that $25 a donation to have root on devices period. Why? Because without the people who know what they're doing, I wouldn't be able to install xposed, make entire backups of my phone (so if the device fails while on warranty), I can EASILY restore my phone. I had that happen with my old HTC Evo 4G LTE. That phone broke 3 times on me and each replacement bestbuy gave me (2), all I had to do was get S-OFF flash a custom recovery, and do a "Restore" then all my texts were there, apps were there (with data), call logs were there. I can go on. That $25 is security for me. So saying all that, I will sit here as patient as I can be to get S-OFF and when the time comes to hit the pay button, there wont be a second thought. No regrets. No more stress. Any more Andybones roms to flash.
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Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
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sdamark said:
Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
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I'm just chillin with my $25 in hand (figuratively).
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Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
wings516 said:
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
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Doesn't seem like it and at this point it probably never will.
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So I've done my reading and I understand sunshine will unlock my bootloader and get me everything I need but it's not really clear to me if root and recovery can be obtained without bootloader unlock and s-off. I've been with Samsung for a while so I'm use to safestrap methods. If anyone can give me clarity on this I'd greatly appreciate it.
OK so I've found my answer... but is sunshine worth it right now? I mean don't get me wrong I think what it does is well worth the money but is there any development in the works? I don't see too much action around here. I also have the Verizon galaxy S5 which still has a locked boot loader due to having a Toshiba chip (my luck) but it has safe strap and custom TW roms and it's been my daily driver for a year. I bought the M9 from a friend but I've yet to put my sim card in because once I do I've gotta give the S5 to the wife or give her the M9. I'd much rather cough up the $25 and use the M9 but I'm looking for feedback on whether or not I can do much more after that.
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OK so I've found my answer... but is sunshine worth it right now? I mean don't get me wrong I think what it does is well worth the money but is there any development in the works? I don't see too much action around here. I also have the Verizon galaxy S5 which still has a locked boot loader due to having a Toshiba chip (my luck) but it has safe strap and custom TW roms and it's been my daily driver for a year. I bought the M9 from a friend but I've yet to put my sim card in because once I do I've gotta give the S5 to the wife or give her the M9. I'd much rather cough up the $25 and use the M9 but I'm looking for feedback on whether or not I can do much more after that.
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No, for HTC phones, Sunshine is your only choice.
After that, no limits. You can modify stock software with root, or you can download one of many custom roms. Or you can switch around and find what works best for you on a continuing basis. Actually, we are kind of spoiled with this ability to change things up, so I don't take it for granted or feel bad about paying $25 to the people who make it possible. You plain can't do it in newer Apple or Samsung phones.
But S-0ff via Sunshine is the only path to there.
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No, for HTC phones, Sunshine is your only choice.
After that, no limits. You can modify stock software with root, or you can download one of many custom roms. Or you can switch around and find what works best for you on a continuing basis. Actually, we are kind of spoiled with this ability to change things up, so I don't take it for granted or feel bad about paying $25 to the people who make it possible. You plain can't do it in newer Apple or Samsung phones.
But S-0ff via Sunshine is the only path to there.
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Yeah I've definitely made the decision to make the jump and use sunshine. Side by side the M9 opens apps and multitasks quicker than the S5 by 1-2 seconds. My question really though is if there's anyone working on roms. Seems like the ability to unlock without having expensive hardware is pretty new so is development just now starting or has it reached its peak?
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Yeah I've definitely made the decision to make the jump and use sunshine. Side by side the M9 opens apps and multitasks quicker than the S5 by 1-2 seconds. My question really though is if there's anyone working on roms. Seems like the ability to unlock without having expensive hardware is pretty new so is development just now starting or has it reached its peak?
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Development is not quite at peak: This Marshmallow version is far and away better than anything on HTC's before now: very fast and smooth. With very little tweaking, it's mighty good.
But another chapter is coming: M9 will get Android Nougat, coming soon. Assuming that it runs nice on the M9, our great devs will likely make more than one nice custom Nougat that will keep the M9 current for at least a year, maybe longer.