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Coming from HTC/Motorola phones primarily the development for this phone has confused me a bit. Those phones used to get a normal root method pretty soon after release without having to worry about messing around the kernal.
Is there going to be a day where you can just root it and leave the kernal alone or is the kernal/root thing exclusive to Samsung phones?
Whsn i was on att i would use superoneclick. I too was wondering this.
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We need this.
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The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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Yeah I have to say this was a very easy process to root coming from an evo4g
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I think he meant the fact that ur using the kernel to get to root instaed the more conventional root method we are used to seeing on devices like htc and so on. It is pretty strange the fact u flash a kernel and then flash to get root its typically gain root then flash somethingy. Or at least thats what my noob ass is used to lol
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stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.
Only solution is to just wait, I don't think many would be working on another root method because this one isn't complex, is noob friendly and works 100% I don't see any pressing reason for another method
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Yup I hear ya. You can always root then odin bubbys pulled stock kernel for a complete stock root. It's not one click but it's close. Only draw back it there is no recovery.
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Conventional root?
What is that?
Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Unless you can get hold of Samsung's signing keys for creating a signed update.zip or find a new exploit (which would have to be fixed eventually because exploits are essentially security holes) you are pretty much stuck with the current methods.
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squshy 7 said:
Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Wow,so no more one click roost with cwm then we can flash any kernel and be good? Shizznit, one click was good stuff
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I miss z4root. Im not a newber but I know I like my simplicity redundantly simple.
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Honestly odin is pretty the one click we need.
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Dude samsung released the source and practically handed us root on a silver platter
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gpgorbosjr said:
All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.
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Why should anyone find a exploit to root the phone when the bootloader
Is open and allows you to root much easier....google keeps closing holes in software making it harder and harder to root ...its not a htc where they s-off the phone .....this will probably be the only way to root because there is no reason to find another
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What could be easier than putting this in Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415 and hitting the start button
I think the point people are trying to make here is that they wish there was a way to have root and recovery and remain bone stock. So far there is no way to do this. Alot of people don't want to flash a custom kernel at this point because of all the problems people are reporting. Myself included. I am still stock and won't root until devs get this stuff sorted. Maybe koush will figure it out...
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It's not really clear from the titles in the development section, but there is a way to root without flashing a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282418
That's a stock system image, simply modified to include root. No kernel at all.
So, this will probably be the stoopidest question of the day...
JUST got a new Macbook, am playing around with it now. Can I use it to flash ROMs and that kind of thing, or do I have to use the wife's PC?
(I'm told I have to buy a copy of windows to activate bootcamp, and that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.)
Thanks in advance!
~Jason
Well your gonna need a pc or anything running ubuntu (linux) to root it and then after that you really don't need a computer. You can literally do everything from your phone. hope that helped a little
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Already rooted an all good there, just wondering about flashing ROMs, radios, that kind of thing.
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Hey man,
if your already rooted you just need to be able to transfer the zip files to your phone and I am pretty sure you can do that with your mac. since you flash them from recovery on your phone you dont need a computer other then to download and transfer the file! so yes you can do it!
Just d/l the ROMs on our phone over wifi. No transferring needed
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Skripka said:
Just d/l the ROMs on our phone over wifi. No transferring needed
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Yeah I mean you can do that but I think it takes longer and is just a pain in the butt.
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Yeah I mean you can do that but I think it takes longer and is just a pain in the butt.
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It only do that I think its a pain to download on pc and then transfer I just download straight to phone
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So...(I'm showing my idiocy, I know...) Do I do that they ROM manager or is there another way to do this. Teach this Padawan, Masters!
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Yea, you don't use your computer to flash roms, so it doesn't matter if you have a Mac or a PC. It only matters when you root the phone, after that it doesn't matter.
So...(I'm showing my idiocy, I know...) Do I do that they ROM manager or is there another way to do this. Teach this Padawan, Masters!
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Don't use ROM Manager.
Hey guys..
Straight forward question..
Is it possible to password protect our Download and Recovery modes?
And i mean when you press and hold vol dwn+home+power method. Not through the android software reboot menu.
I want/like this idea because if someone were to steal my phone. They would NEVER be able to flash a custom ROM or even flash a stock ROM img. They would be completely locked out making the device useless to them.
The only way i think they could get past it is by using JTAG to overwrite the download partition with a stock one. But hardly anyone has a JTAG device.
Well this would be awesome. lol
Have at it
Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
elesbb said:
I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
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As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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DocHoliday77 said:
As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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Too bad it's not the HD2
But yes I think one would need to be made for each device... and if I or anyone can create the bootloader, how would you flash the bootloader? JTAG device?
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Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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DocHoliday77 said:
Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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Hey you could be right too! I never knew that! Hmmm I think in my spare time I shall delve into this!
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Best of luck on it man! If I can be of help let me know, though on this dont expect a lot from me!!
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that is a great idea indeed.:good:
Very interesting topic, but I think it is impossible to do (Recovery & download) are design to prevent forgotten password issues.
What a pity
Guys i thnk if it can be done
It will be easy to install it on our devices if rooted (stock android)
As companies like sammy ,htc have diff kernals
I thnk we can successfully do this fr nexus ,micromax ,karbonn etc.....
Lets have a try
Ny one tried this before
If so plz gimme a guide of it so that it will b easy fr me
Lemmi try my best fr us to have ultimate theft protection on our android devices
I hope if it wrks google may add it on its future devices
The "ultimative" protection would be:
When a phone is stolen, you can remotely trigger "the suicide button" xD
When it is triggered and the phone receives the command (Even if the phone is running other ROM) it reboots the phone and erases the Bootloader and some other things that are important for the phone to work.
Best. Protection. Ever.
Second thing I could imagine is that phone companies could protect the download mode with a password (12 digits or so).
That password will come printed on one of the manuals when you buy the phone.
If you attempt to flash an image in download mode, you will be prompted for the password.
And, optionally, if you put the password 10 times wrong, it will erase bootloader and etc.
Third idea: The download mode only will prompt for a password (printed on the manual), if you atempt to flash another ROM on it... Because this will change the confidential signature that the old ROM has passed to the download mode.
(I am not sure if this could be done. I'm just saying ideas...)
I know there are a couple ways to root.. and)Ive seen a few probs with certian ones... looking for best way...
Not a noob... just looking for the most soild way... ive rooted with CFauto before.. but dont know whats the best to retain shells... had a couple probs there.
1. Should I flash older firmware n then motochopper then odin twrp. Then do I need a kernel with restriction removed?
And use root keeper?
2. Or Use cf- auto. Then odin twrp. No new kernel needed here?....
I just need the most solid way to retain shells...
Someone please help...
One last (Q)... whats the most solid recovery right now.....twrp or cwm?
And is it better to odin it or use goomanager or rom manager...
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I dont know about you but I love things that make my life easy.
I rooted using cf-auto....in less than 2 minutes, including downloading the files.
Than I downloaded goomanager and installed twrp in less than down minutes....
So all in total took me approximately 5 minute (at most) to root with my desire recovery.
Twrp and cwm are both stable..matter of preferences and i just like twrp better.
mgbotoe said:
I dont know about you but I love things that make my life easy.
I rooted using cf-auto....in less than 2 minutes, including downloading the files.
Than I downloaded goomanager and installed twrp in less than down minutes....
So all in total took me approximately 5 minute (at most) to root with my desire recovery.
Twrp and cwm are both stable..matter of preferences and i just like twrp better.
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Thanx.... I did that last time... but I had a hard time keeping root...(shells)
Ill try again... just got my replacement.
And I like twrp... but it kept freezing on me... thats why I thought if I odined it it would be better then goo....
Ill give it another shot....
Maybe they updated cf auto and twrp?
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I used zedomax's way. YouTube zedomax rooting s4
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spodie said:
Thanx.... I did that last time... but I had a hard time keeping root...(shells)
Ill try again... just got my replacement.
And I like twrp... but it kept freezing on me... thats why I thought if I odined it it would be better then goo....
Ill give it another shot....
Maybe they updated cf auto and twrp?
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Well take a look...I rooted my whole house (including myself) and root was kept on both ucing cf-root.
And I never knew recoveries froze before lol first time hearing this. You may just have been unlucky (all i can think of) but I know a lot who used the same things that I have regarding their s4, and all is still good for them and I
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Well take a look...I rooted my whole house (including myself) and root was kept on both ucing cf-root.
And I never knew recoveries froze before lol first time hearing this. You may just have been unlucky (all i can think of) but I know a lot who used the same things that I have regarding their s4, and all is still good for them and I
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K...it was an old phone....had to do a replacement. So ur prob. Right...
Thanx much
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Android_Monsters said:
I used zedomax's way. YouTube zedomax rooting s4
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Thnx ill have to have a look....
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OK so a bit of history...
I just sent back a galaxy note 2 n7100 to amazon (removed all trace of root)
Sent it back as I installed root and custom rom - managed to lose imei etc (didn't backup)
Even after the noble efforts of some kind forum members I could not save the phone
They have sent me a new note n7100.
I want to root it and back it up only. I can live with stock samsung rom
I don't even need cwm installed as the root is for a few certain apps and a cheeky overclock.
Is it safe enough to just root? Will I be able to unroot and update my stock rom?
Thanks
Dan
There are stickies everywhere with information on rooting. Only you will know when you are comfortable enough to root your phone. If you are not comfortable doing it, , don't. Read and study more until you are not longer afraid.
NightHawkUndead said:
There are stickies everywhere with information on rooting. Only you will know when you are comfortable enough to root your phone. If you are not comfortable doing it, , don't. Read and study more until you are not longer afraid.
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Yeah I have read stickies and such.
I was comfortable with rooting my galaxy s3 as I had no problems with it.
I just don't want to ruin my new note 2
spanielgita said:
Yeah I have read stickies and such.
I was comfortable with rooting my galaxy s3 as I had no problems with it.
I just don't want to ruin my new note 2
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I just picked up the Note 2 yesterday and looking to do the same . I came from the vibrant which had no flash counter or normal rom check . From what I've read cf root is most likely what I'm going to use but I'm not very familiar with this flash counter stuff . I'm on the jump plan and plan on upgrading in 6 months and I don't want my upgrade to be rejected due to flash counter and so on . An help is much appreciated .
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I kinda think you have to root for firewalls, avast anti theft, no ads, also directory bind and increased sound Volume.
The root is pretty simple and there are enough guides to get your counter reset and indeed lose the modified tag. It worked for me.
Dr ketan has a few real good guides. Don't be scared. I've rooted four of these and now I've a custom rom too.
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Is tmobile note 2 n7100 or n7105 how do I determine this . Thanks
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Settings, about device. It'll show model number in there
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Thats the first place I looked sgh-t889 so where is everyone getting n7100 and n7105 from .......... Lmao I think I'm in the wrong thread . Just saw the tmobile galaxy note 2 thread .
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Rooting is a piece of cake. It's finding a custom Rom that suites you which is the real problem. It's like a jungle out there for us noobs.
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If the gains you perceive from rooting (custom ROMs, Tasker/Titanium, nandroids, etc) outweigh your risk-aversion to possibly losing your warranty or damaging your phone, then don't do it.
Having said that, if you follow all the instructions carefully and understand the process, you should have no issues. I've rooted the last half dozen phones/tablets and it's been smooth sailing.
After losing my IMEI it took me almost 3 weeks to find a solution to my uprooted device, now that I regained the IMEI back I rooted it for the first time, installed the triangle away and returned the status to normal the counter was already 0. I've also noticed that the OTA update is functioning properly.
Found the correct thread and files and I've successfully rooted and have the unlimited multi window mod .
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How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
Lol. @ agentfour20 Yeah I did see your phone show up as that on your posts but wasn't sure. Glad you got it sorted now.
Edit - ismo29 I know what you mean but I think this phone doesn't need a custom rom as much as most
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lu1gj3s said:
How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
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Framaroot is OK for a last call. But the issue is that it still can open doors that normal rooting doesnt.
I use the prerooted stock with odin
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lu1gj3s said:
How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
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Framaroot is OK for a last call. But the issue is that it still can open doors that normal rooting doesnt.
I use the prerooted stock with odin
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Samsung have also patched the vulnerability in newer firmwares.
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spanielgita said:
OK so a bit of history...
I just sent back a galaxy note 2 n7100 to amazon (removed all trace of root)
Sent it back as I installed root and custom rom - managed to lose imei etc (didn't backup)
Even after the noble efforts of some kind forum members I could not save the phone
They have sent me a new note n7100.
I want to root it and back it up only. I can live with stock samsung rom
I don't even need cwm installed as the root is for a few certain apps and a cheeky overclock.
Is it safe enough to just root? Will I be able to unroot and update my stock rom?
Thanks
Dan
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Mate its perfectly safe to just root and install recovery so you can do your nandroids and EFS BACKUP THIS TIME LOL
sent from my R800i Xperia play with xda premium.. that is all..
If you r not going to root then u will never get the the real test of android.... Using stuck boring ROM everyday...bad idea...
Just root and enjoy the your android...