[Q] GPS not working, never did.. Now what?!?! - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Didn't want this to be my first post, but whats up.. Just coming from a Verizon Droid X , I love this phone EXCEPT the fact that the GPS just doesn't work.. I didn't even notice until after I flashed CM10 the first day. It find's 20+ satellites with the GPS status app, it just NEVER locks on to any of them and in Maps my phone thinks I am in N.C. when i'm in NYC.. I tried flashing other ROMS, I tried different kernels, I tried flashing a GPS fix through CWM I found here on XDA, I even tried flashing back to the stock OTA and kernel via Odin.. I've tried everything and still NOTHING!!! I bought the phone new in the box from a dude on Craigslist so I can't exactly take it to AT&T since I have no warranty and I am using Straight Talk (which kinda sux btw)... Not really sure what to do, i'm usually good at troubleshooting but i'm stuck.. Any advice would be super welcome!! Thanks.. I feel like such a n00b hahaha!!!

Just call samsung . They'll take care of you
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I would have to agree, if the GPS radios aren't working on stock it sounds like you have a bum device. If the problem is that severe it shouldn't be any problem to reproduce at the store where you purchased to device to have it replaced under warranty.

Yupp, thanks guys.. I think i'm gonna take it back to an AT&T store and see what they can do for me.. Only thing is I tripped the flash counter, its on 2 right now. I understand Triangle Away app takes care of that which I downloaded, but I don't know if I need to be rooted to run that app. I'm back to full stock unrooted right now.. Does anyone know??

As i have never used the app I can't say for sure that it requires root, although i do suspect it would. Certainly its worth the extra 15 minutes or so to root the device, triangle away, and then flash back to stock if it is going to cost you a warranty claim on an obvious hardware defect that is no fault of your own :good:.

Awesome.. Well I reverted back to stock and derooted. I then take it to an AT&T service center to replace, but they tell me they can't because I don't have an AT&T number.. I'm using Straight Talk but it runs on AT&T networks, whats the difference. It was payed for full price 3 weeks before at an AT&T store!!! Bunch of jerks.. Guess i'm stuck calling Samsung themselves, lets see where this one goes..
btw, they say that yes it has defective hardware.. Awesome I got the broken one!!! Just my luck...

Orsteezy said:
Awesome.. Well I reverted back to stock and derooted. I then take it to an AT&T service center to replace, but they tell me they can't because I don't have an AT&T number.. I'm using Straight Talk but it runs on AT&T networks, whats the difference. It was payed for full price 3 weeks before at an AT&T store!!! Bunch of jerks.. Guess i'm stuck calling Samsung themselves, lets see where this one goes..
btw, they say that yes it has defective hardware.. Awesome I got the broken one!!! Just my luck...
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I didnt notice the part about craigslist the first time i read your post, ouch...that sucks man. I'm not sure how the manufacturer warranty works with multiple owners, but the hardware is covered for a year through them...maybe leave out the part about craigslist hey.

dntesinfrno said:
I didnt notice the part about craigslist the first time i read your post, ouch...that sucks man. I'm not sure how the manufacturer warranty works with multiple owners, but the hardware is covered for a year through them...maybe leave out the part about craigslist hey.
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Haha yea I'm definitely leaving the part out about craigslist. I'm just gonna say my friend bought it for me as a gift.. I'm sure there'll be no problem concerning warranty, its a brand new phone for christ' sake!! Funny, my phone now thinks i'm in Florida.. Hilarious

Good luck with that, hows the weather down there this time of year?

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Should I unroot before taking my phone in for a screen replacement?

I went by the print store today to ask about getting my screen replaced. the guy I talked with said that for a hardware fix it wouldn't matter if I were rooted.
But they couldn't put my phone on any kind of blacklist or anything could they? I'd rather not waste the time unrooting if I don't have to.
Thanks
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Sprint will work on rooted phones for hardware issues. It's internal policy for them now as of recently. I confirmed this with my local Sprint repair store.
They may work on them, but they may also take note of the fact that you're rooted in case you have software problems. Takes 10 min, just make a backup before you do, so when you root again, easy to get back to where you were.
Do not unroot your phone to take to sprint. Ive had 2 screen rep;acements and many other replacements rooted. And that was before the alleged new policy regarding root. Used to be, they would say (after fixing), 'yeah, as long as you atleast try to make it look stock, thats all good'.
But apparently/allegedly now, even obvious root is ok. I'd still flash a stock theme
Why are there so many threads about this? people no searchy?
thanks for the info.
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Why are there so many threads about this? people no searchy?
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sorry about that search on the xda app is almost unbearable...
I would unroot it. Better safe than sorry.
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I took my Evo's for screen repairs, speaker phone repair and battery issues many times, all while having MIUI flashed. No one ever said anything to me.
Sprint people didn't even know what it was. I just said "oh I downloaded a new theme."
I thought rooting was not illegal anymore. Maybe it depends on the technician you speak with. Some are cool, some are not. I say unroot just to be safe. Thank god for easy rooting practices...
screen fix and root
I think it all depends on what store you are taking it into, i took my rooted phone in and had the screen replaced no issues,

So... Sprint rooted my phone...

I have had both Camera and GPS issues since the day I bought my E4GT. My Camera will randomly give me "Recording Failed" when I try to take photos. Changing Camera settings was also a good way of reproducing "Recording Failed" And my GPS simply just doesn't lock, and if it does it is unbelievably inaccurate.
So, I took my phone in several months back, of course all they did was flash it to stock, I came back in an hour and they claimed it was fixed. Within 24 hours I was still having the same Camera issue, and GPS wasn't improved.
I have dealt with this issue up until today and simply ignored it, used my girlfriends GPS etc. Keep in mind that both these issues exist on stock EK02, EL30, and any custom ROM I install, and GPS status or other GPS related apps don't help either.
So, after flashing to EK02, using a USB Jig to reset my download count and then doing the OTA to EL30, the problem persisted. I brought it to the Sprint store, came back an hour and a half later, and they claimed it was fixed. I instantly starting taking photos in the store, after 2 photographs my phone actually just restarted itself. Once it restarted, I tried taking several more photographs and received my usual "Recording Failed" message. At this point the tech takes the phone back, fiddles around on his computer and tells me they will just have to order a new one.
Great news! Glad I'm getting a brand new E4GT. The real kicker... I got back in my car, drove to work and then I noticed something funny, I have the superuser app installed. I installed Titanium backup to confirm I had root, and I did. The Sprint tech seems to have rooted my phone, most likely in attempt to try a few 3rd party fixes.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Doesn't rooting technically void my warranty... Or is it only flashing non-official ROMs? I know I'm still ok on my warranty because they already confirmed they are shipping a phone to the store for me to pick up. I was just shocked to have Sprint root my phone.
Fendulon said:
I have had both Camera and GPS issues since the day I bought my E4GT. My Camera will randomly give me "Recording Failed" when I try to take photos. Changing Camera settings was also a good way of reproducing "Recording Failed" And my GPS simply just doesn't lock, and if it does it is unbelievably inaccurate.
So, I took my phone in several months back, of course all they did was flash it to stock, I came back in an hour and they claimed it was fixed. Within 24 hours I was still having the same Camera issue, and GPS wasn't improved.
I have dealt with this issue up until today and simply ignored it, used my girlfriends GPS etc. Keep in mind that both these issues exist on stock EK02, EL30, and any custom ROM I install, and GPS status or other GPS related apps don't help either.
So, after flashing to EK02, using a USB Jig to reset my download count and then doing the OTA to EL30, the problem persisted. I brought it to the Sprint store, came back an hour and a half later, and they claimed it was fixed. I instantly starting taking photos in the store, after 2 photographs my phone actually just restarted itself. Once it restarted, I tried taking several more photographs and received my usual "Recording Failed" message. At this point the tech takes the phone back, fiddles around on his computer and tells me they will just have to order a new one.
Great news! Glad I'm getting a brand new E4GT. The real kicker... I got back in my car, drove to work and then I noticed something funny, I have the superuser app installed. I installed Titanium backup to confirm I had root, and I did. The Sprint tech seems to have rooted my phone, most likely in attempt to try a few 3rd party fixes.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Doesn't rooting technically void my warranty... Or is it only flashing non-official ROMs? I know I'm still ok on my warranty because they already confirmed they are shipping a phone to the store for me to pick up. I was just shocked to have Sprint root my phone.
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lol the only thing that happened to me like that was:
i brought my evo 3d in so they could check out the power button... (it was pushed down and wouldnt turn on) the phone had cm7 on it... and the tech showed me his OG evo with cm7 on it with the same theme on it (cm7 red remix)
i couldnt restore it back to a stock RUU because of the power button...but he got a replacement for me even when he got it turned on and seen cm7 on it
I've noticed that most techs don't care if your phone is rooted or not. In fact, I used to go down to the Sprint store to look at new accessories, and I would show off that mine was rooted and running CM. I had a couple of the people working there have me root their phone for them.
It would surprise me at all if the tech rooted your phone. Probably jumped on XDA to see if anyone else had solved the problem yet too.
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Probably jumped on XDA to see if anyone else had solved the problem yet too.
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LOL i bet he did... anyone that has any problems with their phones i direct them here... im waiting for the day that the techs in the sprint store ask me "have you checked xda to see if they have any resolution to this problem"
because ive had customer service reps/android tech department (on the phone) tell me to check xda or android community..
Out of curiosity, when recording video were you recording to internal memory or a microSD card? And if a microSD card, what Class? I got that error all the time with my Class 2 16GB, but when I upgraded to my 32GB Class 4 I have no trouble. Apparently the write speed wasn't high enough for the video stream.
Weird. I've got problems where my GPS sometimes won't lock.... but I reboot and it seems to work for another day or whatever.
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Out of curiosity, when recording video were you recording to internal memory or a microSD card? And if a microSD card, what Class? I got that error all the time with my Class 2 16GB, but when I upgraded to my 32GB Class 4 I have no trouble. Apparently the write speed wasn't high enough for the video stream.
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I actually never recorded video really. This was an issue with simple picture taking at any resolution. I could save to internal or external storage and receive this error. I currently have a class 8 16gb that I use that hasn't given me issues that I know of.
As for the GPS, it was a longstanding and ongoing issue with my phone. No amount of reboots, reflashes or GPS fixes would remedy it. I've tried at least a half dozen roms, plus every OTA and sprint leak. I'm just glad to be getting a new phone.
Also, I've never dropped this phone once. It is literally in pristine condition, you could probably put it in a box and nobody would know that it was used.
yea crazy.. obviously the sprint rep thought he knew what he was doing but in the end, you probably know more than he does .. then again, anybody can read lol. i would have pointed it out in the store and been like hey buddy, whats this? lol then watched him try to explain himself..
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yea crazy.. obviously the sprint rep thought he knew what he was doing but in the end, you probably know more than he does .. then again, anybody can read lol. i would have pointed it out in the store and been like hey buddy, whats this? lol then watched him try to explain himself..
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Lol that would have been a fun one to watch him try to talk his way out of. At least you had a competent sprint guy, my stores in reno seem to never have people who know anything, not even the selling points of a phone in their store!
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Haha I would have loved to ask in store, but unfortunately I didn't notice this for about a half hour when I was at work.
I'll definitely be asking them about it when I go to pick up my replacement phone. I still have my "Sprint Rooted and certified" phone in my hands haha.
Lol.
Once again, contrary to popular belief, rooting does not void your protection plan with us, nor does it prevent us from doing a paid repair (no TEP). Only the iPhone holds the distinction of having it's protection plan voided by software modification, as per Apple.
Now, are we allowed by corporate rules to root your phone as a method of repair? No, of course not. But we're also supposed to only use software that's provided to us, and a lot of times that just isn't enough.
Of course, there are special cases; if somebody carelessly lost their wimax keys when trying to get s-off, i wouldn't replace the phone for two reasons: it's nonessential to telephony functions (meaning youre not stuck if you need to call 911), and it's technically DBR (damaged beyond economical repair), because our warehouse wont be able to get them back, and the board would end up being scrapped.
To that end, hard bricked phones could be rejected due to DBR, but i have no way of telling if it happened due to flashing the phone, now do I?
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squshy 7 said:
Lol.
Once again, contrary to popular belief, rooting does not void your protection plan with us, nor does it prevent us from doing a paid repair (no TEP). Only the iPhone holds the distinction of having it's protection plan voided by software modification, as per Apple.
Now, are we allowed by corporate rules to root your phone as a method of repair? No, of course not. But we're also supposed to only use software that's provided to us, and a lot of times that just isn't enough.
Of course, there are special cases; if somebody carelessly lost their wimax keys when trying to get s-off, i wouldn't replace the phone for two reasons: it's nonessential to telephony functions (meaning youre not stuck if you need to call 911), and it's technically DBR (damaged beyond economical repair), because our warehouse wont be able to get them back, and the board would end up being scrapped.
To that end, hard bricked phones could be rejected due to DBR, but i have no way of telling if it happened due to flashing the phone, now do I?
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Well thank you very much for this info. Its nice to know the ins and outs of my warranty service. May even take a look into the the terms of service and such for it. It'll nice to have a shiny new phone though for sure.
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Bear gri11z said:
because ive had customer service reps/android tech department (on the phone) tell me to check xda or android community..
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I have the Viewsonic G-tablet and if you contact viewsonic customer support, they always point you to XDA fourms. lol. I wish i could get paid just telling people to check XDA
Just wanted to second this. At this time only jailbroken iPhones have their warranty/protection voided.
You should have no problem getting help even if your phone is rooted, though we should not be the ones doing it for you lol
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Lol.
Once again, contrary to popular belief, rooting does not void your protection plan with us, nor does it prevent us from doing a paid repair (no TEP). Only the iPhone holds the distinction of having it's protection plan voided by software modification, as per Apple.
Now, are we allowed by corporate rules to root your phone as a method of repair? No, of course not. But we're also supposed to only use software that's provided to us, and a lot of times that just isn't enough.
Of course, there are special cases; if somebody carelessly lost their wimax keys when trying to get s-off, i wouldn't replace the phone for two reasons: it's nonessential to telephony functions (meaning youre not stuck if you need to call 911), and it's technically DBR (damaged beyond economical repair), because our warehouse wont be able to get them back, and the board would end up being scrapped.
To that end, hard bricked phones could be rejected due to DBR, but i have no way of telling if it happened due to flashing the phone, now do I?
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Full Disclosure: I am a Sprint employee. Any opinions are my own and in no way endorsed by Sprint.
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When i went to go get my e4gt one of the salesmen was talking about his jailbroken iphone to someone he was selling an iphone to. I wasnt really paying attention since they were talking about iphones and i was downloading the xda app while they finished my paperwork.
You sure your method of returning to stock didn't preserve your root? It's possible.
Bear gri11z said:
LOL i bet he did... anyone that has any problems with their phones i direct them here... im waiting for the day that the techs in the sprint store ask me "have you checked xda to see if they have any resolution to this problem"
because ive had customer service reps/android tech department (on the phone) tell me to check xda or android community..
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im a sales rep in a preferred retailer. but because of the time ive spent here, im also the unofficial lead technician in our store, and the last resort for our actual techs when they cant fix it themselves... and they went into training for their job..
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Just wanted to second this. At this time only jailbroken iPhones have their warranty/protection voided.
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99% correct. if an android has a rom flashed, its warranty is void. but we can still repair/replace them with TEP, and paid repairs are fine too. its the unlocking of the bootloader that is looked at, not the actual rooting
see: htc evo3d (htcdev dot com), unlocking nexus s, flash/binary counter in E4GT
As much as I like to side with Sprint employees in regards to TEP & rooting, it tends to be more of a personal Sprint employee decision as opposed to actual TEP policy.
After reading over the TOS in regards to TEP, there are some things written in there that could potentially be used against you should rooting be considered the cause of your problem:
"Sprint is not liable for the websites you visit or anything you download or cause to be downloaded to your device. Damage related to websites visited or downloads to your device may not be covered by Sprint's Service and Repair policy or your device insurance policy."
Personally, it's a chance one takes & it depends on who you deal with on any given day should you run into any trouble. There just seems to be alot if what if's in how it's written, how it's defined & how a Sprint rep would handle the situation.
You are right in that it may change but their are policies and procedures in place that dictate how we do our job. We have clear direction to help Android customers who have rooted devices. The other poster who corrected me is right in the fact that your manufacturer warranty is likely voided from rooting but Sprint will still make an attempt to help you with paid repair or TEP.
We also have clear direction that a jailbroken iPhone loses it's protection.
That is in the ToS so you cannot hold Sprint liable if you break your phone, if you download a virus/malware, install custom apps/software etc.
Yes you can break your phone beyond a point that can be fixed but that doesn't mean that we won't try to help you. Sprint doesn't get anything out of a customer who cancels because their rooted phone breaks and can't be fixed.
EL TEJANO said:
As much as I like to side with Sprint employees in regards to TEP & rooting, it tends to be more of a personal Sprint employee decision as opposed to actual TEP policy.
After reading over the TOS in regards to TEP, there are some things written in there that could potentially be used against you should rooting be considered the cause of your problem:
"Sprint is not liable for the websites you visit or anything you download or cause to be downloaded to your device. Damage related to websites visited or downloads to your device may not be covered by Sprint's Service and Repair policy or your device insurance policy."
Personally, it's a chance one takes & it depends on who you deal with on any given day should you run into any trouble. There just seems to be alot if what if's in how it's written, how it's defined & how a Sprint rep would handle the situation.
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Overstew said:
You sure your method of returning to stock didn't preserve your root? It's possible.
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I can honestly say I am absolutely certain I didn't have root when I handed them my phone to be repaired.
I ODINed EK02, which removed my root, then I used a USB Jig, which reset my download count, and then I booted up my phone and was informed there was an update, and so I did the OTA to EL29. At this point I actually tried to install Titanium for ****s and giggles, only to be told I didn't meet the requirements to use the app, root, so I uninstalled it.

[Q] Touch Keys Don't Work

I've done some searching and I haven't found any problems like mine yet. I ran the SGS unlock tool meant for Vibrant on my SGS2 (i know i know) and it didn't work. Ever since my touch keys don't work. I just reflashed my rom and they still don't work.. help!
PS. I'm odining now. Hopefully that'll fix it.
Crap crap crap crap crap odin didn't fix it.
Tynen said:
I've done some searching and I haven't found any problems like mine yet. I ran the SGS unlock tool meant for Vibrant on my SGS2 (i know i know) and it didn't work. Ever since my touch keys don't work. I just reflashed my rom and they still don't work.. help!
PS. I'm odining now. Hopefully that'll fix it.
Crap crap crap crap crap odin didn't fix it.
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Unable to offer much insight but seems that if you go back to stock they would certainly assume it's a hardware failure.
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avarize said:
Unable to offer much insight but seems that if you go back to stock they would certainly assume it's a hardware failure.
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I bought the phone off craigslist though, I don't know if they'll replace it.
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I bought the phone off craigslist though, I don't know if they'll replace it.
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iv'e gotten most of my phones from craigslist and they still replaced them for me. i just waited like a week to make sure that my imei number showed up in there system so they didnt question me where i got my phone from lol.
Yeah my phone was only working for less then 24 hours, I don't think there's any hope for tmo to replace it. What I don't get this is someone at some point bought it from tmobile, why do they care if it changed hands?
damn that sucks. it wont show up in there system if it was only used for less then 24 hours. sometimes i would just chat with tmobile online and tell them that i want to make sure they have my correct imei number in there system and they ask me what my imei number is then they tell me its not the right one and if they want me to have them update it and i say yes then they tell me it can take up to 48 hours for there system to update it. idk why they care if u didnt get it from them.
i already paid for a jtag service so I'll just go that route, but I'll keep all of this in mind the next time i hard brick a phone... =P
Tynen said:
i already paid for a jtag service so I'll just go that route, but I'll keep all of this in mind the next time i hard brick a phone... =P
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alright well hopefully u can unbrick the phone.. good luck
Tynen said:
i already paid for a jtag service so I'll just go that route, but I'll keep all of this in mind the next time i hard brick a phone... =P
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dude, did you unbrick your phone yet ?
I got mine solved by inputting
*#*#86824#*#*
and press update firmware.
credit goes to Memeber - ecips

Freezing a lot lately..

My galaxy has been freezing a lot lately and the only way to fix is to pull battery. Any ideas how to fix this? Stock jellybean rooted.
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I've been having this issue also, it keeps getting worse. It seems like something is not getting cleared because after a clean wipe/flash everything is fine. Then as time goes on it starts happening again. I thought it might just be a rogue app, so I didn't install or restore anything and it eventually freezes. I think it may be a JB issue because I've seen people with other phones post about it as well. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
metalfan78 said:
I've been having this issue also, it keeps getting worse. It seems like something is not getting cleared because after a clean wipe/flash everything is fine. Then as time goes on it starts happening again. I thought it might just be a rogue app, so I didn't install or restore anything and it eventually freezes. I think it may be a JB issue because I've seen people with other phones post about it as well. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this.
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I tried clearing cache, seems to work for now..
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That worked for me for a day, it just did it twice since I posted. I'm not sure what to do next. I guess I'll go to sprint, they replaced it once already because of this about a month ago.
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That worked for me for a day, it just did it twice since I posted. I'm not sure what to do next. I guess I'll go to sprint, they replaced it once already because of this about a month ago.
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I really hope it doesn't come to that. It doesn't freeze for me on cm10. Just stock
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Maybe it's a touchwiz problem
metalfan78 said:
Maybe it's a touchwiz problem
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Took mine in just now. They are gonna replace it. It froze while the guy was using it. I think the big man up top threw me a freebie because I forget to get rid of the root and all, but the sprint guy noticed how hot my phone gets (I thought it was normal but apparently not, he said it was borderline damaging my phone, been like that since the day I got it) and he said he was just gonna replace it right then and there. Getting it Wednesday. Glad he didn't see my clockworkmod.
But sprint is very good to me. Kinda sad they remember me because I come a lot since 2010.
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Whiplashh said:
Took mine in just now. They are gonna replace it. It froze while the guy was using it. I think the big man up top threw me a freebie because I forget to get rid of the root and all, but the sprint guy noticed how hot my phone gets (I thought it was normal but apparently not, he said it was borderline damaging my phone, been like that since the day I got it) and he said he was just gonna replace it right then and there. Getting it Wednesday. Glad he didn't see my clockworkmod.
But sprint is very good to me. Kinda sad they remember me because I come a lot since 2010.
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What's sad is a Sprint rep didn't see your ClockWorkMod...
They cover rooted phones. Really sounds like a hardware issue to me. Never had mine do anything like that and I've been rooted and custom from like the second hour I had the phone.
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They cover rooted phones. Really sounds like a hardware issue to me. Never had mine do anything like that and I've been rooted and custom from like the second hour I had the phone.
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I thought rooting your phone voided warranty? It is a hardware issue though..So i do see where you're coming from.
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I thought rooting your phone voided warranty? It is a hardware issue though..So i do see where you're coming from.
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It's really going to come down to store interpretation of the rules. Yeah, there are so many variables that could come with the rooting process itself it's also so unlikely to be the problem. The commonality of bad electronics is so, well....common and this does sound so hardware-ish. I'm absolutely certain some other store would have been jerks about it just because the store happened to hire jerks. Sounds like they get good people. I'd say write them a nice email. Try to add the guy's name in. At least help him get a better raise or something for his effort.
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It's really going to come down to store interpretation of the rules. Yeah, there are so many variables that could come with the rooting process itself it's also so unlikely to be the problem. The commonality of bad electronics is so, well....common and this does sound so hardware-ish. I'm absolutely certain some other store would have been jerks about it just because the store happened to hire jerks. Sounds like they get good people. I'd say write them a nice email. Try to add the guy's name in. At least help him get a better raise or something for his effort.
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Thank you for clearing this up. I'm with you on the hardware issue though, because if it freezes up for the basic scrolling then there is something wrong. Plus if it gets that hot that quick without much usage there is obviously something wrong.
My LCD went out and I had to go to 3 different Sprint stores just to get it fixed..
I hope it's not hardware related. This is the second phone that has done it and it takes about a month each time for the issue to show up. That could be a manufacturing defect, but it seems so rare and random.
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I thought rooting your phone voided warranty? It is a hardware issue though..So i do see where you're coming from.
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Yeah, in my sprint store I took my evo shift in rooted with an unlocked bootloader...they fixed it up temporarily and just told me to wait for a refurb :laugh:
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I was hoping to avoid taking it in but since it keeps freezing and gets hot I guess I will go. Oh well. Thanks for all the input
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What's sad is a Sprint rep didn't see your ClockWorkMod...
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He would have if it didnt get to hot while he used it. While he was checking for normal freezing problems, it froze on him, and then right before he was about to factory reset it, he said he would just order a new one. He showed the other tech how hot it was and was amazed. It froze just from opening an app and scrolling,
and got hot with 3G turned on and the phone just sitting there. I've always used stock rooted, never flashed new kernel or anything. I think he might have noticed and just let it slide, because as I said before, I have been coming in since 2010 with legitimate reasons to replace phones. I just odin'd my phone after triangle away so it looks completely stock. Before that I backed up all my files with my backup, and when I get the new phone, I will just root it and restore. I'm lucky though. I told him that I have tried many factory resets and even the Odin ones where it wipes the internal memory and it still does it (which is true, I have). When I take it in, I could have acted dumb and said NY friend did that rooting so he could silences my camera blah blah, but I like to be honest.
metalfan78 said:
I was hoping to avoid taking it in but since it keeps freezing and gets hot I guess I will go. Oh well. Thanks for all the input
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Just make sure you reset the flash counter and Odin it after you backup all the files you will need.
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It's really going to come down to store interpretation of the rules. Yeah, there are so many variables that could come with the rooting process itself it's also so unlikely to be the problem. The commonality of bad electronics is so, well....common and this does sound so hardware-ish. I'm absolutely certain some other store would have been jerks about it just because the store happened to hire jerks. Sounds like they get good people. I'd say write them a nice email. Try to add the guy's name in. At least help him get a better raise or something for his effort.
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I always try to do that. Every time I go in, the techs are so nice. They say sprint may call and text me about my store experience and they ask will you say you had a good one, and I always say I definitely will, but I never get that call or text. Didn't know you could email, so I will definitely do that now! Like I said, I have been where stores hire jerks, and tech wise, they have always been kind and willing to help. Maybe its because I'm straight forward with them, maybe not. If he would have asked if I rooted it I would have said yes. Thank you for the idea.
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The store I go to doesn't care about rooted phones
metalfan78 said:
The store I go to doesn't care about rooted phones
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Well that's good. Just take it in and tell them what is going on. Glad I'm not the only one with the issue. I wasn't gonna take it in, but today it froze 6 times in a 30 min to and hour time interval and I decided it was time to. And I guess its not suppose to get that hot. Like I said, it did that from day one, so I thought it was normal lol.
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The Root said:
They cover rooted phones. Really sounds like a hardware issue to me. Never had mine do anything like that and I've been rooted and custom from like the second hour I had the phone.
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Same way here lol.
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Is yours still freezing today? I was going to go to sprint after work but now mine won't freeze. I'm not sure if I should just go or not.

T-Mobile stance on rooted phones?

Food for thought. As a part of the "T-Mobile My Account" app is a device health (beta) page that will scan the phone for various settings. If you tap on either the "Battery state" or "Device performance" and look for a box that says "Show all test" being rooted is among the list. When I read over the various warranties and agreements, I was looking specifically for anything about root, rooting, rooted, "" access. The best I found only mentions that issues caused by 3rd party software are not covered.
Seeing this makes me wonder if T-Mobile as part of its "un-carrier" move may be opening up to the idea.
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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beats4x said:
I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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This is why I don't understand people's hate towards Samsung's Knox when they trip it due to rooting and custom TOM's.
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Cause on an HTC or nexus device you can completely go back to stock and have no evidence of rooting. With Knox, you're screwed. There's no resetting it. I don't know how LG works, this is my first LG device
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beats4x said:
I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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Just out of curiosity, what is T-Mobile's stance? I'm very new to TMo. So new, I switched/ordered my phone on Tuesday and due to a "Systems Issue" I don't even believe my phone has been shipped yet.
CrucialBT said:
Just out of curiosity, what is T-Mobile's stance? I'm very new to TMo. So new, I switched/ordered my phone on Tuesday and due to a "Systems Issue" I don't even believe my phone has been shipped yet.
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Honestly, if you return to stock (completely) and then go in for warranty, you should be okay. The official stance is no, but I know that 99 times out of 100 you're not gonna have an issue. Unless it's blatantly obvious that you caused your issue by messing with your phone. If you ever need anything when dealing with Tmobile feel free to pm me on here. That goes for anyone who reads this.
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Returned my g2 yesterday, wiped it but left it stock rooted with twrp recovery. She didn't say anything about it.
bfranklin1986 said:
Returned my g2 yesterday, wiped it but left it stock rooted with twrp recovery. She didn't say anything about it.
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Yup, and things like this happen where reps are completely oblivious. It's not uncommon.
I only said what I did because I know quite a few managers from the bay area to Sacramento, and a good portion of them are into rooting phones and train their staff (not cause they want to screw you over, just to make sure that they retain their job) to look for it.
So yeah, you'll probably be fine if you don't unroot your phone, but an extra 10 minutes of work won't hurt you.
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I usually get my best results by going into the store and being a real jerk, swear at the counter people, call them names then tell them you rooted the phone and now there are some issues....
JK,,, dont do that.
If you are nice and act dumb they will help you.
Hmm, I don't even HAVE a store around here, I'd be dealing with whoever is at the other end of the shipping tag.
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Honestly, if you return to stock (completely) and then go in for warranty, you should be okay. The official stance is no, but I know that 99 times out of 100 you're not gonna have an issue. Unless it's blatantly obvious that you caused your issue by messing with your phone. If you ever need anything when dealing with Tmobile feel free to pm me on here. That goes for anyone who reads this.
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thats very nice of you to offer that:good:
I agree with your comments; I have rooted every phone I have had over the years with ATT/Sprint/TMO, and NEVER "restored to stock" ANY of the phones I turned in for upgrade/repair/etc, and never once had an issue with ANY carrier.
If you act like a jerk, and hassle the store personnel, you will always have a problem; if you are polite, professional, and dont try to blame someone else for your problem, 99% of the time, you wont have a problem turning in a rooted phone.
Treat people like YOU want to be treated, and you will always be taken care of; at least that's always been my experience..
I have always just unrooted before I went in. Some times I have watched them check the phone and worried if they would try to update it. That was the case with both my HTC Evo 4g and Samsung Galaxy S3 with Sprint. I was trying to avoid the hboot 1.5 and KNOX updates. Only issue I had was when my mms stopped working. Even unrooted the stock messenger wouldn't send them. I was asked if it was rooted and was hoping the unroot file worked. Ever time the phones have finished as I was parking in the lot so I never really had a chance to make sure it was all back to stock.
When I picked up the G3 and changed to T-Mobile I asked and was told unroot it. If no one knows it was rooted then you're good.
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yeah, its so easy to unroot a phone, and if they do a quick check to see if its rooted, and they dont see that it is, they never go any further..
wase4711 said:
yeah, its so easy to unroot a phone, and if they do a quick check to see if its rooted, and they dont see that it is, they never go any further..
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I have had to over the years exchange a few phones with t-mobile, been with them going on 8 years with 5 lines. I always unroot and set back to stock with that said tho, I had to exchange a note 3 for non working GPS and although I did set it back to stock I obviously couldn't reset the knox counter. So far, haven't heard anything about it and that was almost a month ago. While I have no official comment, I do believe t-mobile doesn't care so long as the issue is not related to anything you have done.
I want the g3, but am waiting for root. Just don't care for phones I can't restore to, uninstall unneeded apps etc.
i went on store at LG G3 launch and i showed my note 3 to swap with G3. via JUMP
my phone is rooted, i even teased the girl representative that i have the coolest ROM on it lol. she just smiled and check the note 3 physically. i even let her do a factory reset on the note 3. few mins later i have the black G3 on my possession
I'm not sure what the big deal is. If we can flash a stock ROM onto a phone I'm sure they can, probably easier than we can. It's the hardware condition that really matters.
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Treat people like YOU want to be treated, and you will always be taken care of; at least that's always been my experience..
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This is called The Golden Rule and XDA and the world in general would be a better place if it was practiced at every opportunity. ?

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