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[Q] Desire bootloop with new ROM

I'm trying to install a new ROM for a friend (first time I use a Desire) and whenever I try to install a Sense 3.5 ROM (Cool3D Sense 3.5 or BlissMod007 for example), I end in a bootloop. CyanogenMod 7, however, works perfectly fine.
So far:
Flashed newest radio.
Flashed newest RIL.
Flashed cm7r2 Hboot.
Flashed 4EXT 2.2.7 RC5 recovery.
Now what do I do to make the phone work with these ROMs?

What EXT partition did you put on SD card? Did you flash the Right version for CM7 Hboot.

rootSU said:
What EXT partition did you put on SD card? Did you flash the Right version for CM7 Hboot.
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1. Don't know?
2. I used the Bravo CM7r2 on alpharev's site.

1) Ok well these roms are very big. Even with standard Hboot, sometimes there is not enough space so some of the ROM is shipped out to SD-EXT, a partition on SD card that you need to create
2) No, I mean these big roms have a stock version and a CM hboot version. Each version only works on the hboot it was intended for.

rootSU said:
1) Ok well these roms are very big. Even with standard Hboot, sometimes there is not enough space so some of the ROM is shipped out to SD-EXT, a partition on SD card that you need to create
2) No, I mean these big roms have a stock version and a CM hboot version. Each version only works on the hboot it was intended for.
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1. How would I go about creating that partition?
2. Oh, like that. Ye, I made sure to get the versions intended for cm7r2. Seeing as I haven't made SD-EXT, I doubt this is the problem.

The best way is a little long winded. Suffice to say you need to use Gparted. This you can either burn to CD and boot from it, make a bootable USB disk to run it or create a virtual server within windows and use it that way.
The last option I recommend to use VMware, I have a tutorial in my signature for this.

rootSU said:
The best way is a little long winded. Suffice to say you need to use Gparted. This you can either burn to CD and boot from it, make a bootable USB disk to run it or create a virtual server within windows and use it that way.
The last option I recommend to use VMware, I have a tutorial in my signature for this.
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Followed your advice (although I used VirtualBox) and everything worked on first try. Made the partition 768 MB since most ROMs said 512+. I appreciate the quick answers.

No probs
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Stuck at htc splashscreen

before you think it's a n00b question. i aint a noob and tried many things
Oké i think i have a problem, but i don't know what it is...
I have:
- HTC Desire
- Newest recovery rom (i updated it today but don't know exact version
- CM7/r2 HBOOT (143MB)
- newest radio rom (also tried an older one)
- Wiped all (user data/cache/dalvik/even battery stats)
- used a 8GB SD card (7GB FAT32 and 1GB EXT4) --> Used GParted
- used an (brand new) 16GB SD card (15GB FAT32 and 1GB EXT4) --> Used GParted
After flashing (any) rom my HTC Desire (that uses more space) gets stuck in the White (HTC) Splashscreen, when i install just a clean CMod 7 rom it works perfectly.
Anyone has an idea what i can try more?
I tried following roms:
Runnymede_AIO_V2.5.1
Cool3D-Runny-v4-bravo
Runnymede_AIO_V2.5.1._STOCK
InsertCoin_GB_Sense2.1_A2SD+_1.1.3
InsertCoin_GB_Sense2.1_CM7_1.1.3

So U are not a n00b but posted the wrong place...?
and U can only flash CM7R2 ROMs... others will not fitt! If U want to flash other ROMs than CM7R2,
U have to flash another HBOOT first!!!!

Try to change HBOOT...

Yeah, i already tried STOCK and CM7/r2 (both tried them twice (re-flashing))

Which recovery are U using?
Try also repartitioning your SD
Flash 4ext recovery, find it via search, and do wiping partitioning etc. from there...
and then flash again...

It doesnt matter how many U tried. U have to use THE one that fits the ROM
U are trying to flash. See in OP of the ROM what HBOOT is used, and be sure to download the right one also (the ROM can be made for more than one HBOOT!)

Samstar, try this:
1. In Recovery go to "Mounts and storage"
2. Format everything there (except sd-card, I suppose).
3. Try to flash a rom.
Write feedback here.

damjand said:
Which recovery are U using?
Try also repartitioning your SD
Flash 4ext recovery, find it via search, and do wiping partitioning etc. from there...
and then flash again...
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ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0
tried partitioning via GParted and MiniTool Partition (both 8 and 16 gb)
Still the same problem occurs, i'll try your suggetion, i'll let you know asap

Jakedude2011 said:
It doesnt matter how many U tried. U have to use THE one that fits the ROM
U are trying to flash. See in OP of the ROM what HBOOT is used, and be sure to download the right one also (the ROM can be made for more than one HBOOT!)
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i have tried HBOOT: CM7/r2 and STOCK (in the list in my starting post you can see witch rom i tried, ofcourse a cm7 rom with cm7 hboot and stock rom with stock hboot
zalua said:
Samstar, try this:
1. Into Recovery go to "Mounts and storage"
2. Format everything there (except sd-card, I suppose).
3. Try to flash a rom.
Write feedback here.
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did that before all the above named roms

^
^waiting...
and pay attention to the version of ROM=HBOOT U R using...

I think I had a similar problem. I just flashed proper hboot again from alpharev.nl, then formatted everything in "mounts and storage" (including /system and all) and the problem disappeared somehow.
I wish you luck.

LOL, a n00b party!
Reported.

Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums and Read THIS
Moving to Q&A

*sigh*
Why did I even bother writing a massive guide to fix peoples problems, so that they don't have to post... does anyone even bother to read it?

bortak said:
*sigh*
Why did I even bother writing a massive guide to fix peoples problems, so that they don't have to post... does anyone even bother to read it?
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because not everyone are noobs...just newbs

Stuck in bootloop

Hello,
Today I attempted to root my HTC Desire. I used this site ( youtube.com/watch?v=kvg0i8in96M ) to do so.
I installed several programs that required SU access to check if the rooting was succesful.
I downloaded SystemAppRemover to remove some of the originally installed pieces of software. Unfortunately that didn’t work out too well: some of the buttons on the Phone aren’t responding anymore. So I figured, let’s turn off the Phone and turn it back on.
Then the next program revealed itself: the Phone wont boot, its trapped in the booting proces. I read elsewhere online that I should try to revert to the original firmware, but I have no idea how to do that.
Can anybody advice on this please? I used android 2.3 before.
Thanks in advance,
Veldscholte

Recovery working? Have you done any back up before you tried that app?
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First backup is for saving a lot of troubles, like this one... Was it not worth to make it? You can flash any custom ROM or you can flash ruu-see bortak guide from stickies I'm on the phone limitation of resources ATM
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I see that you're running Runnymede 5.0.3. Looking through the ROM's thread, i've found that it requires that you have an EXT partition on the SD card and that your phone is S-OFF, both of which, i believe, your phone lacks. That might be the reason why it's stuck at the bootscreen.
Runny 5.0.3 ROM's thread said:
REQUIREMENTS:
- CM7r2 or stock HBOOT (from Alpharev)
- Must be S-OFF! (see S-OFF guide).
- A 1GB ext4 partition (see partition guide for 4EXT Recovery).
- A recovery with touch drivers: I recommend 4EXT Recovery. Optional but recommended.
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Before installing ANY ROM, please read its thread carefully. Some ROMs require various types and sizes of EXT partitions, others require different HBOOTS etc. If you don't follow the instructions properly, you will get bootloops.
From my understanding, you are now running the stock HBOOT (250 MB of /system space). If your phone is network-free (unbranded), you should download the latest 2.2 stock RUU from HTC, install it on your phone and that'll solve all of your problems (use Search). You can root/S-OFF afterwards and install any ROM that your heart desires (making sure you follow instructions, this time).

If you read his first post and watched video, he is s-off with stock hboot as he used revolutionary to get root... i think he is missing only ext4 partition and touch recovery

First off. ALways do a Nandroid backup from within recovery. This would have given you the option to restore your original rom,"with S-Off".
Head over to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200261
download and install from recovery,"Wipe data/factory reset & dalvik cache first"
please read Bortaks Guide before messing to much wth your phone.

Go to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
download Install Gparted Live either on CD or USB
Read instructions from site.
Do not use recovery to format ext3 or ext4. This will only lead to errors.

Veldscholte said:
Hello guys. Thanks for all the reply's. I'm sorry to say it, but I'm a beginner in this area. What is the best thing I can do now? How do I format all my partitions into ext4?
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Why do you want to format ALL of your partitions to EXT4? You phone needs a FAT32-partition as well.
So if the ROM you flashed or you want to flash needs an EXT4-partition, backup all important data on your SD card, boot into recovery and partition your SD card with FAT32-partition plus an EXT4-partition with 1 GB (I recommend 1 GB because it will be compatible with nearly every ROM you find here) and copy all data back on FAT32-partition.
You can do this operation either in recovery (worked always well for me) or with GParted. Just do not use software like MiniTool Partition Wizard or any other Windows software which "deals" with EXT-partitions, because these types are Linux-partition-types and I would not trust Windows there if you want to have the rewards of your SD card.
In Q&A you can and will find a very good noob guide which will help you a lot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you still have questions / problems, use the search. And if there is still something that bothers you, ask your question here in Q&A.
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bored_stupid said:
Go to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
download Install Gparted Live either on CD or USB
Read instructions from site.
Do not use recovery to format ext3 or ext4. This will only lead to errors.
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This is just not true. Recovery is an easy and very good way to partition your SD card and will work well nearly every time. I cannot remember any partitioning errors (can you name at least one anyway?) or rather problems caused by partition with recovery. As far as I remember, the causes were always crap software like Rom Manager or MiniTool Partition Wizard or something like that.

MatDrOiD said:
Why do you want to format ALL of your partitions to EXT4? You phone needs a FAT32-partition as well.
So if the ROM you flashed or you want to flash needs an EXT4-partition, backup all important data on your SD card, boot into recovery and partition your SD card with FAT32-partition plus an EXT4-partition with 1 GB (I recommend 1 GB because it will be compatible with nearly every ROM you find here) and copy all data back on FAT32-partition.
You can do this operation either in recovery (worked always well for me) or with GParted. Just do not use software like MiniTool Partition Wizard or any other Windows software which "deals" with EXT-partitions, because these types are Linux-partition-types and I would not trust Windows there if you want to have the rewards of your SD card.
In Q&A you can and will find a very good noob guide which will help you a lot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you still have questions / problems, use the search. And if there is still something that bothers you, ask your question here in Q&A.
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This is just not true. Recovery is an easy and very good way to partition your SD card and will work well nearly every time. I cannot remember any partitioning errors (can you name at least one anyway?) or rather problems caused by partition with recovery. As far as I remember, the causes were always crap software like Rom Manager or MiniTool Partition Wizard or something like that.
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Apologies, what i should have said was," could possibly cause problems ". I have occasionally had problems with some fussy roms boot-looping after installation, but after reformatting in Gparted, they have worked," this could be coincidence though ". I fully agree with you on the likes of Rom Manager and MiniTools.

Veldscholte said:
***This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***
I have hboot 6.93.1002..
Edit: Now I have an ext4 partition on my sd card. How can I install any custom rom on that partition? Windows can't read it.
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Please do some research about installing ROMs etc. You clearly did not even understand the basics.

What hboot do you have? Still the same as first post? Post info from hboot/fastboot, why did you run RUU?
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Ok, flash recovery via fastboot
Fastboot flash recovery "name of recovery IMG file"
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Veldscholte said:
What image file do I need to flash?
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The recovery.img-file.

for rmd recovery see my signature as you have no system yet... flash it then you can flash custom rom

Does RMD backup and restore .android_secure properly now?
Personally I wouldn't recommend anything other than cwm 2.5.0.7 or amonRA 2.0.1 depending on erase size to a newbie
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It should have... i remember there was conversation between you and rastaman if im right... but since new version came out 1.0.3.5, i was using 1.0.3.4 without any problem then I changed over to 4ext... I can't be 100% it was fixed... Can you have a look please?
yes i know cwm or amon ra but these have usb brick function i dont want to have him back if it will happen
Just in case 4EXT recovery
MD5 2D75F6EE7626D98F84E148C2BD8C0855

boot phone to fastboot, connect to pc and run in cmd:
fastboot devices
if you get any HTxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx number you can proceed to flashing recovery

kotag82 said:
It should have... i remember there was conversation between you and rastaman if im right... but since new version came out 1.0.3.5, i was using 1.0.3.4 without any problem then I changed over to 4ext... I can't be 100% it was fixed... Can you have a look please?
yes i know cwm or amon ra but these have usb brick function i dont want to have him back if it will happen
Just in case 4EXT recovery
MD5 2D75F6EE7626D98F84E148C2BD8C0855
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I haven't recommended 4ext to anyone yet, Ive still been recommending what I mentioned, but Ive been using it solidly for a good few weeks now and I think I am about ready to start recommending it...
Veldscholte said:
How can I use fastboot if I can't get an adb connection?
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adb and fastboot are 2 totally different things. It just happens that they both are command line and used to communicate with your android phone. The similarity ends there.
Do what Kotag said.
If you click the link to my guides in my signature, I have an adb and fastboot faq that may be of use to you.

Is it boot loop or stuck on splash screen?
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That splash, that means booting process did not started
What hboot you have, I presume you flashed seb15 Runny, what version? Sd ext done properly?
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Can't install any Custom ROM with htc sense

Hi all
ok, I don't know what's wrong with my HTC Desire
I can install custom ROMs , but every ROM which has htc sense does not work ! other ROMs which aren't with htc sense , work perfectly
I mean , the installations went ok , but when I turn on my phone it freezes at joker picture (I mean that popular s-off picture)
I carefully followed the installation guide , but no success ! in past I could install ROMs with htc sense , it about 2 or 3 months that I can't install custom roms with htc sense
I even changed the Radio and recovery version , but again I achieved no success
I'm limited to those ROMs which are without htc sense
can anyone help me to install a ROM with htc sense ? what's wrong with my phone ?
any answer is appreciated
thank you

Any details? Hboot and sd-ext?

Sully.E said:
Hi all
ok, I don't know what's wrong with my HTC Desire
I can install custom ROMs , but every ROM which has htc sense does not work ! other ROMs which aren't with htc sense , work perfectly
I mean , the installations went ok , but when I turn on my phone it freezes at joker picture (I mean that popular s-off picture)
I carefully followed the installation guide , but no success ! in past I could install ROMs with htc sense , it about 2 or 3 months that I can't install custom roms with htc sense
I even changed the Radio and recovery version , but again I achieved no success
I'm limited to those ROMs which are without htc sense
can anyone help me to install a ROM with htc sense ? what's wrong with my phone ?
any answer is appreciated
thank you
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Partition your sd-card. Use 4ext recovery or Gparted to make a 1 gb ext4 partition.

twisted_forever said:
Any details? Hboot and sd-ext?
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I have created ext4 partion on SD card long time ago , but what is hboot ? Can you give me more details about Hboot ? how can I check about Hboot?
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Partition your sd-card. Use 4ext recovery or Gparted to make a 1 gb ext4 partition.
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My SD Card has ext4 partition , I created it long time ago

I have created ext4 partion on SD card long time ago , but what is hboot ? Can you give me more details about Hboot ? how can I check about Hboot?
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Turn off your phone, press Power and Volume button and you'll get to HBOOT screen.
Hey, did you reformat your sd-card or try another one?

jnovax said:
Turn off your phone, press Power and Volume button and you'll get to HBOOT screen.
Hey, did you reformat your sd-card or try another one?
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yeah , hboot is installed
I also formatted ext4 partition through recovery , but it didn't change any thing ! the same problem still persists
as I mentiend I only can't install ROMs with htc sense ! other ROMs are being installed well
is it possbile that some how the boot of the phone is corrupted ?

Sully.E said:
yeah , hboot is installed
I also formatted ext4 partition through recovery , but it didn't change any thing ! the same problem still persists
as I mentiend I only can't install ROMs with htc sense ! other ROMs are being installed well
is it possbile that some how the boot of the phone is corrupted ?
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Phone does not have permanent "boot". It is flashed with the rom.
There's nothing corrupted.
If you don't know how hboot works, and never changed it, then you probably have stock hboot.
What did you partition your sd-card with?

thanks for reply
I made ext4 partition with a sofware which is called minitool partition.

Sully.E said:
thanks for reply
I made ext4 partition with a sofware which is called minitool partition.
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then this is your exact problem, do not use minitool
this is why your sense roms havent been booting, minitool doesn't make the paritition properly (happened to me as well). other roms can work without a partition which is why they booted, then you need to flash a script to make apps use the partition.
only use gparted or 4ext recovery to make your ext4 partition, as they make them properly aligned.
backup your sd card first, then repartition, and copy everything back. i recommend gparted, step 5 here.

thank you eddiehk6 for reply
I've give a try and post the result

[Q] Problems and questions before rooting my HTC Desire

Hey all! I am a beginner and i want to root my HTC Desire to install VJ CM10.1 Jelly Bean 4.2.2 Custom Rom. But i am having issues understanding some things before rooting. I am going for Unrevoked to root and flash CMW on my Desire. And then backup the stock Rom with CMW. I am having these issues:
1. The download link for the custom rom (VJ CM10.1 JB 4.2.2) of HTC Desire on this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704 gives two option for download. One is for 'Stock Hboot version' and the other is 'Sense/Data++'. How do i know if i have stock or sense/data++. Cause holding down volume and power button will only show the Hboot version e.g 0.75 or something. How do i know that i need my custom rom for stock or sense/data++? PS what is sense and data++?
2. Before flashing the custom rom i will backup my stock rom with CWM. And i think it would backup on the sd card? But after backing up when i will go for partitioning the sd card to have more internal memory and then install my VJ custom rom it will also delete my stock rom backup? right? So how do i store my stock rom backup before partitioning and formatting the sd card and then bring it back on the sd card to be later accessible by CWM?
3. If i will partition the sd card and run the a2sd script to move my apps to sd card, in which partition would it move to? And out of the two which partition would be available for me to use for like music, videos etc.
Any help would be highly appreciated! I am stuck on these issues

talha011 said:
Hey all! I am a beginner and i want to root my HTC Desire to install VJ CM10.1 Jelly Bean 4.2.2 Custom Rom. But i am having issues understanding some things before rooting. I am going for Unrevoked to root and flash CMW on my Desire. And then backup the stock Rom with CMW. I am having these issues:
1. The download link for the custom rom (VJ CM10.1 JB 4.2.2) of HTC Desire on this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704 gives two option for download. One is for 'Stock Hboot version' and the other is 'Sense/Data++'. How do i know if i have stock or sense/data++. Cause holding down volume and power button will only show the Hboot version e.g 0.75 or something. How do i know that i need my custom rom for stock or sense/data++? PS what is sense and data++?
2. Before flashing the custom rom i will backup my stock rom with CWM. And i think it would backup on the sd card? But after backing up when i will go for partitioning the sd card to have more internal memory and then install my VJ custom rom it will also delete my stock rom backup? right? So how do i store my stock rom backup before partitioning and formatting the sd card and then bring it back on the sd card to be later accessible by CWM?
3. If i will partition the sd card and run the a2sd script to move my apps to sd card, in which partition would it move to? And out of the two which partition would be available for me to use for like music, videos etc.
Any help would be highly appreciated! I am stuck on these issues
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1. You have stock hboot. You have to change it to have anything else except the stock one. You haven't changed it, and won't be able to, due to being s-on.
2. After CWM is installed, do a backup, then boot back in the stock ROM, connect your phone to your pc, and move your backup from your sd to your pc (backup folder: clockworkmod/backup)
3. You clearly don't fully know how partitioning works. Check the guide in my sig. It explains a lot.

You solved it!
Thanx alot man! You solved my problem! Just one more qs. I read your full guide about partitioning the sd card and now is clear with everything. But there is one thing still troubling me. For suppose if i partition it with your guide ext3 or ext4 type whatever. Then if i partition my 4 gb card to 2048mb, a second partition of 2gb would be created as an internal memory? And the rest 2gb would be the first partition to be used as a normal sd card with default android folders? right?

Yep. The rest will remain FAT32 so it will act just like the SD did before.
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Thanks man!
chromium96 said:
Yep. The rest will remain FAT32 so it will act just like the SD did before.
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Thanks alot! Now I am clear with everything!

The hoot defines how the internal memory is partitioned. A portion is set aside for the system, boot, user and I have probably forgotten one.
I have not run VJ's rom in a few months but I believe 1.5GB is the recommended maximum sd-ext partition for stability reasons on roms using a2sd.
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genseng said:
The hoot defines how the internal memory is partitioned. A portion is set aside for the system, boot, user and I have probably forgotten one.
I have not run VJ's rom in a few months but I believe 1.5GB is the recommended maximum sd-ext partition for stability reasons on roms using a2sd.
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Thanx!

talha011 said:
Thanx!
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There's a button for that.
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