I know for a fact that the Korean versions and the US versions are different from the global model. What are some other variations?
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I know for a fact that the Korean versions and the US versions are different from the global model. What are some other variations?
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What do you mean different? The only thing that changes are software (US Carriers will add some junk) and the radio bands that are supported (although if it's all the same chip, then any N2 could be repurposed with a flash or two ie. AT&T Note flashed to work on T-Mo Note, although they were both using Snapdragon chipsets).
Different as in ROMs and Kernels are not compatible
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What do you mean different? The only thing that changes are software (US Carriers will add some junk) and the radio bands that are supported (although if it's all the same chip, then any N2 could be repurposed with a flash or two ie. AT&T Note flashed to work on T-Mo Note, although they were both using Snapdragon chipsets).
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U.S. Note IIs don't use Snapdragon SoCs. They use the same Rev. 2.0 Exynos 4412 as the N7100.
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U.S. Note IIs don't use Snapdragon SoCs. They use the same Rev. 2.0 Exynos 4412 as the N7100.
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Yeah, I was talking about the original Note (the Note II hasn't been released yet in the states... so my statement about flashing the AT&T model to work on T-Mo wouldn't make sense). Although I'm very jealous of you internationals, I still gotta wait a week... for the announcement...
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Yeah, I was talking about the original Note (the Note II hasn't been released yet in the states... so my statement about flashing the AT&T model to work on T-Mo wouldn't make sense). Although I'm very jealous of you internationals, I still gotta wait a week... for the announcement...
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LOL. I'm not international. I live in the U.S.
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You are right!
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Different as in ROMs and Kernels are not compatible
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You are absolutely right! They are all different and you should not flash SHV-E250S with any other ROM, like I did. You can read my posts to understand the result.
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Need Pit.
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Different as in ROMs and Kernels are not compatible
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I see you have the same device as me SHV-E250S, could you please share your pi file with me? for me to try and flash my device with your pit.file in order to recover my partitions and BINARY TYPE, when i open my pi, binary type is unknown((( Want to flash with official rom and your pit.
Thank you.
Please Help
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Different as in ROMs and Kernels are not compatible
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hello, once again.
I wonder if you can help me, by making a complete backup of your SHV-E250S and sens it to me, so i try to recover with your back up, to at least obtain my EFS folder back. Please...
Realy dont want to send my phone from Russia Moscow back to Korea, to fix it....
bluepremium said:
I know for a fact that the Korean versions and the US versions are different from the global model. What are some other variations?
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1. From the specs that I've actually seen online, SGH-T889 has the UMTS1700/2100 (B4) band instead of the UMTS900 (B8) band of the GT-N7100. All other bands and the rest of the hardware appear to be exactly the same between the US T-Mobile and the International Unlocked variants. Although some places mention that T889 also has a "blocked" LTE band...
2. Also, N7105 appears to have all the same bands and hardware as the N7100, and two additional LTE bands: LTE2600 (B7) and LTE800 (B20). There also appears to be a N7105T variant, which has LTE1800 (B3) instead of the B20 band on the N7105.
...alright, this can quickly become quite a tedious post
...so a little deeper google searching reveals that this information is already being compiled in a more readable format and certainly looks much more complete, too.
e.g. here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II
and here!
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...=3877&id11=3826&id12=3851&id13=3832&id14=3853
At least twelve variants... at least on paper, that is:
Samsung Galaxy Note II Variants
00. GT-N7100
01. SC-02E
02. GT-N7105T (LTE)
03. GT-N7105 (LTE)
04. SCH-i605 (LTE)
05. SCH-N719 (CDMA)
06. GT-N7108
07. SPH-L900 (LTE)
08. SCH-R950 (LTE)
09. SGH-T889 (US T-Mobile, LTE?)
10. SGH-i317 (LTE)
11. SHV-E250S (LTE)
Not sure how reliable all this info is, but hopefully it helps to clarify the confusion about the variants (of which there appears to be a lot!) and to make a more educated purchase decision...
There have been a lot of updates to the Wikipedia article referred above, just in the past three hours... hopefully our wiki page http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_2 reflects this info soon, too.
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Since the AT&T GSIII) and T-mobile GSIII) are basically the same phone I wounder if the AT&T version will work on T-mobile 3G/4G. Similar to the way the AT&T Galaxy Note works on T-mobile 3G/4G. I was gone probably by the phone out right to use on T-mobile. AT&T has it for 550.00 where as T-mobile has it for 630.00.
I don't think so because att phone doesn't support mobile's aws band but idk if you could flash a modem. I did that on my note but the speeds were horrible. But yea t-mobile is expensive I just paid 680$ for my s3 today at my retail store..
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I don't know, i'm wondering the same thing. the phones are identical. I think it's a very high possibility that there will be rom/radio/ kernal combinations in the future that will cater to t mobile radios that we will easily be able to flash. Just unlocked mine, I think i'm gonna have faith in US GSIII development, identical hardware and eventual full cross compatibility.
As far as I know, the Att has an lte modem and the tmo doesn't. I read that even when tmo launches LTE it won't work with the gs3. But, the tmo has att hspa+ support 1700mhz and should work with att 3g no problem.
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Has anybody tried popping a Tmobile sim in an AT&T GS III?
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The modem for lte or hspa+ is built into the msm8960. In theory they should be interchangeable
Would be interesting experiment for someone with rooted phone to try loading the alternative kernel/baseband then applicable sim.
Keeping fingers crossed,
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Canoe Head said:
The modem for lte or hspa+ is built into the msm8960. In theory they should be interchangeable
Would be interesting experiment for someone with rooted phone to try loading the alternative kernel/baseband then applicable sim.
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Think it was done by tsp and failed. Also how do you know the mms8960 works on T-Mobile's 1700 band? So far no evidence.
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There is snapdragon s4 whitepaper that states modem can do lte cat3, and dc-hspa+ cat24.
Elsewhere states that the rf for common freqs range 700-2600.
Do not have link handy.but try developer.qualcomm.com
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What I don't get is why t-mobile would use a different chipset if the 747's msm8960 was compatible with 1700 aws. Especially since t-mobile is spending billions to refarm right now to make all gsm devices compatible with their network. It just doesn't make sense. Until there's confirmation, there are reasons to have doubts.
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There are some reports on xda that t999 variant used the msm8260 which is similar chipset but NO LTE.
I would be interested in link wrt tsp attempt at baseband flash, especially which s3 was used.
I find surprising samsung would bother with these build variants.
Does not bode well for FM....
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Canoe Head said:
There are some reports on xda that t999 variant used the msm8260 which is similar chipset but NO LTE.
I would be interested in link wrt tsp attempt at baseband flash, especially which s3 was used.
I find surprising samsung would bother with these build variants.
Does not bode well for FM....
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He spoke about trying to flash the t-mobile s3 radio in another thread earlier with no results. Returned his and ordered the t-mobile variant. I ordered a skyrocket myself. So far it doesn't look good. But of course with radios nothing is concrete. All we can do is flash their files and hope something sticks.
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He spoke about trying to flash the t-mobile s3 radio in another thread earlier with no results. Returned his and ordered the t-mobile variant. I ordered a skyrocket myself. So far it doesn't look good. But of course with radios nothing is concrete. All we can do is flash their files and hope something sticks.
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Has anyone tried injecting the modem.bin of T999 to the i747M CWM flash ready file and has their phone network unlocked with T-Moblie/Mobilicity/Wind sim?
There are at least two "versions" of the MSM8960, one with the LTE support, one without. The TMO version has the MSM8260A modem, which can be verified with getprop from the terminal. In essence, the TMO version does have the newer S4 (Krait) CPU, but it does lack the LTE hardware. So, no, the phones are not identical. The TMO version does support AT&T HSPA frequencies though, but the ATT version does not (at least in the default configuration) support TMO HSPA frequencies. Whether that can be changed or not, I don't know.
From "getprop" in terminal:
ro.board.platform - msm8960
ril.modem.board - msm8260a
What does the AT&T version say?
When Amazon first posted the AT&T version on their site I read a review about it saying it would work on T-Mobiles network for voice but not data.
When Amazon first posted the AT&T version on their site I read a review about it saying it would work on T-Mobiles network for voice but not data.
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What they undoubtedly meant was that you would only get plain old GSM (EDGE, GPRS, etc.) with the AT&T version on T-Mobile, due to the lack of proper frequency support for T-Mobile's network. Still voice and data, just slow as hell by today's standards. However, the T-Mobile version fully supports AT&T frequencies for HSPA (no LTE though).
Hi folks,
There has been alot of discussions about the differences between N7100 and N7105. While N7100 is in fact the note 2 and N7105 is Note 2 LTE, I just want to know what are the differences between the both of them in terms of support from XDA. Are N7100 custom roms or rooting methods applicable to N7105? Is N7105 suppprt by XDA community?
Thanks
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Uhhh the n7100 is LTE...
And obviously will have more support since they aren't releasing the n7105 for a while.
The 105 is like the 100's retarded brother, kinda like skyrocket version of SGSII
The difference is in the frequency they support
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Hi folks,
There has been alot of discussions about the differences between N7100 and N7105. While N7100 is in fact the note 2 and N7105 is Note 2 LTE, I just want to know what are the differences between the both of them in terms of support from XDA. Are N7100 custom roms or rooting methods applicable to N7105? Is N7105 suppprt by XDA community?
Thanks
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The actual difference between N7100 and N7105 is the frequencies each support.
First N7100 is supporting 700Mhz/2100Mhz. and 1700Mhz
While N7105 is supporting 800Mhz/2600Mhz. and 1800Mhz
Here is the list of countries LTE frequencies, and what frequency each country uses.
wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
And here is more info about the frequency bands
wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
PS: I couldn't type the full URL as I have to post at least 10 posts first before I can post an outside URL, but I assume that you can figure out what is missing in the URLs
Astronaut77 said:
The actual difference between N7100 and N7105 is the frequencies each support.
First N7100 is supporting 700Mhz/2100Mhz. and 1700Mhz
While N7105 is supporting 800Mhz/2600Mhz. and 1800Mhz
Here is the list of countries LTE frequencies, and what frequency each country uses.
wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
And here is more info about the frequency bands
wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
PS: I couldn't type the full URL as I have to post at least 10 posts first before I can post an outside URL, but I assume that you can figure out what is missing in the URLs
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have u seen the prices on EE[LTE],they are way too expensive just to get more faster speeds and with Galaxy Notes 2 no one can afford only if you got a good job with good money,you need to pay the phone upfront and the monthly charges,the hell with EE[LTE]
@Astronaut77
Can you please provide a source.
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@Astronaut77
Can you please provide a source.
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http://ee.co.uk/
I am looking for a Note 2 to work with Bell Mobility in Canada.
From a spec comparison the i317 and i317M (Bell/Telus) are the same in terms of frequency, 2G 3G and LTE.
1. Can I use an unlocked ATT on Bell? What would be the problem/limitations?
2. What is the "M" anyway? I had a i9000M and it seems to be a different modem? But what modem, what will it affect?
Bottom line: if an ATT i317 will work fine with my Bell, I'd rather get an ATT phone. Looking into the future, an i317 will have more custom ROM support than an i317M.
Thanks.
CowFun.
cowfunone said:
I am looking for a Note 2 to work with Bell Mobility in Canada.
From a spec comparison the i317 and i317M (Bell/Telus) are the same in terms of frequency, 2G 3G and LTE.
1. Can I use an unlocked ATT on Bell? What would be the problem/limitations?
2. What is the "M" anyway? I had a i9000M and it seems to be a different modem? But what modem, what will it affect?
Bottom line: if an ATT i317 will work fine with my Bell, I'd rather get an ATT phone. Looking into the future, an i317 will have more custom ROM support than an i317M.
Thanks.
CowFun.
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1. Yes
2. The m just signifies that it's the Canadian model
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Again I want to raise poll to rename thread to
AT&T, Bell, Rogers, Telus Galaxy Note 2
Or
Galaxy Note 2 i317/i317M
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Again I want to raise poll to rename thread to
AT&T, Bell, Rogers, Telus Galaxy Note 2
Or
Galaxy Note 2 i317/i317M
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Agreed
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Follow up question:
1. If the m simply denotes a canadian model with no other difference, why is rogers note 2 an i317 ans not i317m?
2. Do you think the i317m will need to be flashed differently than the i317? I know that my i9000m needs to be flashed somewhat differently than the i9000.
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Again I want to raise poll to rename thread to
AT&T, Bell, Rogers, Telus Galaxy Note 2
Or
Galaxy Note 2 i317/i317M
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Makes sense
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Makes sense
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not sure how to change title or poll.
I clicked edit, and I am able to change the content, but the title is fixed.
Happy to do it if I can be shown how.
Meanwhile, does anyone care to answer my questions?
Thanks.
I'd guess that the difference is due to bilingual labels, licences, documentation, packaging, software(?), etc. The FCC ID's are the same (and I am guessing that the AT&T Note II's IMEI/sn label doesn't have an Industry Canada ID).
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I'd guess that the difference is due to bilingual labels, licences, documentation, packaging, software(?), etc. The FCC ID's are the same (and I am guessing that the AT&T Note II's IMEI/sn label doesn't have an Industry Canada ID).
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Can someone show me how to find the FCC ID's for i317 and i317M?
what does it mean when 2 devices have the same FCC ID? Does it mean that the hardware is identical?
cowfunone said:
Can someone show me how to find the FCC ID's for i317 and i317M?
what does it mean when 2 devices have the same FCC ID? Does it mean that the hardware is identical?
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FCC ID is found under the battery
My Bell Note II is: A3LSGHI317
For a user, its same. No difference at all.
Just at internal documents its different, as Canadian model also supports French as official language.
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cowfunone said:
I am looking for a Note 2 to work with Bell Mobility in Canada.
From a spec comparison the i317 and i317M (Bell/Telus) are the same in terms of frequency, 2G 3G and LTE.
1. Can I use an unlocked ATT on Bell? What would be the problem/limitations?
2. What is the "M" anyway? I had a i9000M and it seems to be a different modem? But what modem, what will it affect?
Bottom line: if an ATT i317 will work fine with my Bell, I'd rather get an ATT phone. Looking into the future, an i317 will have more custom ROM support than an i317M.
Thanks.
CowFun.
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This isn't necessarily true. I had an HTC Desire Z, it's American counterpart was the G2. The only hardware difference was the 3G radios, and they share a single development community
Our Note II should be identical hardware wise so we should have identical rom support
my rogers one is i317m not i317
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Finally?
cowfunone said:
Follow up question:
1. If the m simply denotes a canadian model with no other difference, why is rogers note 2 an i317 ans not i317m?
2. Do you think the i317m will need to be flashed differently than the i317? I know that my i9000m needs to be flashed somewhat differently than the i9000.
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Hi,
I also want to replace my I9000M by a i317/i317M.
Did you finally buy an AT&T phone?
Are you satified?
Did you have to flash a "Bell" modem in it?
Regards,
Would it be better to get an international s4 and unlock to use on att or should I get an att s4 instead?
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you can get one from att cheaper subsidized but you will be locked in for two. years.. If you use lte you only have a choice to get att version as internation will not work with let..
The International has an octacore while the att will only have a quad because of lte
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AT&T, cos of LTE support
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you can get one from att cheaper subsidized but you will be locked in for two. years.. If you use lte you only have a choice to get att version as internation will not work with let..
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Not true. Some international markets will receive lte versions. I'm unsure of the processor included with them. It seems Europe is starting to upgrade their networks to lte
http://news.yahoo.com/global-samsung-galaxy-s4-model-crushes-u-version-170047781.html
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Not true. Some international markets will receive lte versions. I'm unsure of the processor included with them. It seems Europe is starting to upgrade their networks to lte
http://news.yahoo.com/global-samsung-galaxy-s4-model-crushes-u-version-170047781.html
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Correct. You will have to be knowledgeable of the different model numbers (i95XX,etc) and know which one(s) are lte. I'm not sure of any of these devices hardware spec differences yet. Soon.
Locked since its not related to ATT SGS3. Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192630
Hey this might sound extremely stupid but please answer. Is SM-N9005 international or T mobile? Im asking this because my phone boots with T mobile theme on startup, but its model is (written in about device) SM-N9005. Im really confused. Please help.
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International
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3
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International
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3
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So when rooting I should seek for international roms or anything, right?
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aleksa6767 said:
So when rooting I should seek for international roms or anything, right?
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Pull back cover and look at model number. Then go to that area for roms
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Your phone can flash Tmobile roms, because it shares the same snapdragon 800 soc as the USA versions. Even if your phone is international you can flash both your international roms and USA variants as long as you enter apn settings for your carrier.
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