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Hi,
I basically want to know if there is any difference between these devices, other than network provider lock.
Can you use the ROMs interchangeably?
I think the tmo model does support att's bands and u can probably interchange roms as well like on the tmo s2 and the skyrocket
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minhajmsd said:
I think the tmo model does support att's bands and u can probably interchange roms as well like on the tmo s2 and the skyrocket
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We don't know for sure yet that the ROMs will be interchangeable. However, given that most T-Mobile phones support the 850/1900 NAM bands (GSM) needed for AT&T HSPA+, as long as the phone is unlocked it should work fine.
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In thinking of doing this. Does anyone know if it works with the Medianet data plan?
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In thinking of doing this. Does anyone know if it works with the Medianet data plan?
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The Galaxy S2 did. Reading the specs page on the Tmobile website, I've come to the conclusion that the bands are identical to the AT&T variant's. I'm going to be doing the same thing.
Will hspa+ work? If so, tmo users who will be paying full price would be better off
Buying from att because its less than tmos full price cost.
Plus wireless tethering would work Because tmo doesn't have imei # of att phone.
Can anyone confim?
i would like to know this as well, paying 549 if a lot better than 639.
QUOTE=predation;27809975]Will hspa+ work? If so, tmo users who will be paying full price would be better off
Buying from att because its less than tmos full price cost.
Plus wireless tethering would work Because tmo doesn't have imei # of att phone.
Can anyone confim?[/QUOTE]
FYI only T-MO has HSPA +42 version of the S3 for those looking to buy from At&t.
anyone can confirm this?? does the gs3 from tmo works on att HSPA+ and vice versa and if the tmo gs3 works internationally on 3g networks.
All right,unlocked my T999 galaxy s3, put my AT&T micro sim in phone but I get no data. I can make phone calls no problem.Do I have to do anything with the APN settings?
Thank you!!
You need to make an AT&T APN. Also the AT&T version will not get 3G on T-Mobile without at the very least a modem flash.
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O.K. just added a couple ATT apn settings still no data.any other suggestions?
By the way i have a 4g micro sim.Thought Tmobile S3 had ATT hspa+ bands.
Got apn settings from these forums.
Might want to do a lot of research before trying to flash an att ROM on tmo or vice versa. I heard the tmo phones are quad core.
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Might want to do a lot of research before trying to flash an att ROM on tmo or vice versa. I heard the tmo phones are quad core.
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They aren't. All US ones are dual core.
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fender22 said:
O.K. just added a couple ATT apn settings still no data.any other suggestions?
By the way i have a 4g micro sim.Thought Tmobile S3 had ATT hspa+ bands.
Got apn settings from these forums.
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did you flash an AT&T radio? you will probably need to do that.
how did you unlock your phone? did you just buy a code or did you try one of the XDA methods?
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did you flash an AT&T radio? you will probably need to do that.
how did you unlock your phone? did you just buy a code or did you try one of the XDA methods?
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Forgot about that. You need an AT&T baseband.
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They aren't. All US ones are dual core.
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So they are. Thanks for providing quick verification on something i heard. :thumbup:
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They aren't. All US ones are dual core.
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Aaaaah!!
Why when something comes to US it has to be downgraded?
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Aaaaah!!
Why when something comes to US it has to be downgraded?
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It isn't a down grade. Do some reading.
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It isn't a down grade. Do some reading.
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link?
I will most likely use this phone on Simple Mobile which uses tmobiles towers so the obvious choice would be the tmobile version, but would i benefit in any way by getting the unlocked version? Who is the unlocked version branded by? I dont want to make a mistake because a month ago i was about to get the unlocked iphone for my girl and run it on simple mobile until thankfully you guys tipped me off that the unlocked iphone was actually an at&t branded phone and will not get 4g speeds on simple mobile.
So, who is the unlocked version of the gs3 branded by? And which one should i get, tmobile gs3 or unlocked gs3?
International Sgs3 is branded by Samsung. I believe you would not get 4g, because of the different frequencies. The other option would be the Korean version of the sgs3. I do not know if that works though.
T-mobile is gonna be updating their 1900mhz which means the international s3 will get 3g data and iPhone users same...
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International Sgs3 is branded by Samsung. I believe you would not get 4g, because of the different frequencies. The other option would be the Korean version of the sgs3. I do not know if that works though.
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So let me get this straight, the international gs3 is the unlocked version?
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T-mobile is gonna be updating their 1900mhz which means the international s3 will get 3g data and iPhone users same...
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Well in this case what is different between the tmobile version and the unlocked version. Im not understanding, sorry. If I get the tmobile version, would i be able to use it the same way the unlocked version can be used?
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T-mobile is gonna be updating their 1900mhz which means the international s3 will get 3g data and iPhone users same...
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Yeah at the end of next year.
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So let me get this straight, the international gs3 is the unlocked version?
Well in this case what is different between the tmobile version and the unlocked version. Im not understanding, sorry. If I get the tmobile version, would i be able to use it the same way the unlocked version can be used?
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International is unlocked. It will not get anything more than 2G on tmobile.
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Since the AT&T GSIII) and T-mobile GSIII) are basically the same phone I wounder if the AT&T version will work on T-mobile 3G/4G. Similar to the way the AT&T Galaxy Note works on T-mobile 3G/4G. I was gone probably by the phone out right to use on T-mobile. AT&T has it for 550.00 where as T-mobile has it for 630.00.
I don't think so because att phone doesn't support mobile's aws band but idk if you could flash a modem. I did that on my note but the speeds were horrible. But yea t-mobile is expensive I just paid 680$ for my s3 today at my retail store..
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I don't know, i'm wondering the same thing. the phones are identical. I think it's a very high possibility that there will be rom/radio/ kernal combinations in the future that will cater to t mobile radios that we will easily be able to flash. Just unlocked mine, I think i'm gonna have faith in US GSIII development, identical hardware and eventual full cross compatibility.
As far as I know, the Att has an lte modem and the tmo doesn't. I read that even when tmo launches LTE it won't work with the gs3. But, the tmo has att hspa+ support 1700mhz and should work with att 3g no problem.
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Has anybody tried popping a Tmobile sim in an AT&T GS III?
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The modem for lte or hspa+ is built into the msm8960. In theory they should be interchangeable
Would be interesting experiment for someone with rooted phone to try loading the alternative kernel/baseband then applicable sim.
Keeping fingers crossed,
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The modem for lte or hspa+ is built into the msm8960. In theory they should be interchangeable
Would be interesting experiment for someone with rooted phone to try loading the alternative kernel/baseband then applicable sim.
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Think it was done by tsp and failed. Also how do you know the mms8960 works on T-Mobile's 1700 band? So far no evidence.
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There is snapdragon s4 whitepaper that states modem can do lte cat3, and dc-hspa+ cat24.
Elsewhere states that the rf for common freqs range 700-2600.
Do not have link handy.but try developer.qualcomm.com
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What I don't get is why t-mobile would use a different chipset if the 747's msm8960 was compatible with 1700 aws. Especially since t-mobile is spending billions to refarm right now to make all gsm devices compatible with their network. It just doesn't make sense. Until there's confirmation, there are reasons to have doubts.
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There are some reports on xda that t999 variant used the msm8260 which is similar chipset but NO LTE.
I would be interested in link wrt tsp attempt at baseband flash, especially which s3 was used.
I find surprising samsung would bother with these build variants.
Does not bode well for FM....
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There are some reports on xda that t999 variant used the msm8260 which is similar chipset but NO LTE.
I would be interested in link wrt tsp attempt at baseband flash, especially which s3 was used.
I find surprising samsung would bother with these build variants.
Does not bode well for FM....
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He spoke about trying to flash the t-mobile s3 radio in another thread earlier with no results. Returned his and ordered the t-mobile variant. I ordered a skyrocket myself. So far it doesn't look good. But of course with radios nothing is concrete. All we can do is flash their files and hope something sticks.
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He spoke about trying to flash the t-mobile s3 radio in another thread earlier with no results. Returned his and ordered the t-mobile variant. I ordered a skyrocket myself. So far it doesn't look good. But of course with radios nothing is concrete. All we can do is flash their files and hope something sticks.
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Has anyone tried injecting the modem.bin of T999 to the i747M CWM flash ready file and has their phone network unlocked with T-Moblie/Mobilicity/Wind sim?
There are at least two "versions" of the MSM8960, one with the LTE support, one without. The TMO version has the MSM8260A modem, which can be verified with getprop from the terminal. In essence, the TMO version does have the newer S4 (Krait) CPU, but it does lack the LTE hardware. So, no, the phones are not identical. The TMO version does support AT&T HSPA frequencies though, but the ATT version does not (at least in the default configuration) support TMO HSPA frequencies. Whether that can be changed or not, I don't know.
From "getprop" in terminal:
ro.board.platform - msm8960
ril.modem.board - msm8260a
What does the AT&T version say?
When Amazon first posted the AT&T version on their site I read a review about it saying it would work on T-Mobiles network for voice but not data.
When Amazon first posted the AT&T version on their site I read a review about it saying it would work on T-Mobiles network for voice but not data.
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What they undoubtedly meant was that you would only get plain old GSM (EDGE, GPRS, etc.) with the AT&T version on T-Mobile, due to the lack of proper frequency support for T-Mobile's network. Still voice and data, just slow as hell by today's standards. However, the T-Mobile version fully supports AT&T frequencies for HSPA (no LTE though).
Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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The phone does support HSPA+ on AT&T out the box since the bands are included. The phone also has T-Mobile LTE frequency as well, but is said to be locked down by software since T-Mobile does not have LTE up and running yet. I believe T-Mobile and AT&T do use the same frequency for LTE. Only way to know if someone unlocks their device and puts in an AT&T sim.
According to AnandTech review it WILL support ATT LTE. So how does a non-Tmobile user unlock this phone??? I want to use on ATT.
From the review...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9
One of the most interesting things about the Galaxy Note 2 on T-Mobile is that it literally is the same hardware as the AT&T Note 2 with LTE. Sure, the model number is different, but the T-Mobile Note 2 includes support for LTE bands 17 (which AT&T uses) and 4 (AWS, which AT&T has specced devices out for and T-Mobile has confirmed it will deploy LTE on). This is to my knowledge the first T-Mobile handset with overt LTE support, and thus a solid future-proof purchase if you’re determined to have a T-Mobile handset that will work with the carrier’s upcoming LTE on AWS plans.
In addition, if you unlock the handset there’s no reason it shouldn’t work on AT&T’s LTE network that I can see. I managed to unlock the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 but not before leaving the AT&T LTE market in Dallas. It does however work as expected on WCDMA 1900 in my own market on AT&T after unlocking.
Will the Note 2 work on streight talk as well?
I'm curious if the note II would work on att's 3g network. I'm with Sprint atm but I'm constantly roaming due to poor coverage so I'm assuming it won't be long till they nix my contract and paying $100+ for limited data is just ridiculous to me so I was going to go with TMobile but they only have.edge coverage around here no 3g so I was hoping if I went with TMobile I could use AT&T towers and actually have a decently priced plan with real service.
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sats.mine2k4 said:
Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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Im in the same boat im going thru the same thing I have both simplemobile/tmo and Att for work and i played with the international version and ofourse it was fine with my Att sim i didnt try my simplemoble/tmo sim at the time but im hearing the tmo version is exactly like the att and international one so imma just use my work phone/att to save some money(I use google voice so it doesnt matter what phone i use same number) and plus im suppose to get a discounted price so lets say i can possible be very happy this weekend!! but imma take the chance all the info i read states it will work with Att hspa+network so well see soon! if nobody tries it before me...
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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Lol @ "Pooped in my at&t sim"!
ekerbuddyeker said:
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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did u get hspa+ atleast? im thinking of getting note 2 from tmobile and using at&t
It says 4G
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It says 4G
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thats good. hspa+ is all i need
how much was it to get it unlock
$25
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$25
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thanks.
LTE band might just be software locked since T-Mo has yet to get LTE, FCC filings showed LTE capability. YMMV
So how does one unloxk that?
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Hacked radio. Prob be a while for that though. Need att radio drivers most likely.
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additional evidence that it's LTE enabled (technically)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9
not sure how to "unlock" the LTE functionality
Well I am enjoying the device. Im Missing LTE in NYC where 4G is not great!
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Well I am enjoying the device. Im Missing LTE in NYC where 4G is not great!
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Make sure your using the right APN....... if your not using the right APN you won't get lte
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Most likely your going to need the At&t radio just how At&t note 1 worked on t-mobile 4g by flashing the radio... maybe even a full on rom from at&t version since all the phones now come with the same hardware
I have an unlocked Galaxy S4 T-Mobile version but when I put AT&T SIM it doesn't get LTE. I thought the T-Mobile version had compatible LTE with AT&T. I have entered the right APN for AT&T though, anyone can help?
Have you tried to install the AT&T modem?
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Did you select the correct band? LTE? I had to switch it to get att LTE
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Did you select the correct band? LTE? I had to switch it to get att LTE
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You changed in the settings? or you flashed a new modem?
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Make sure your account has the 4g lte package. When you login to your att account should say like.
Data pro 4g lte.
If it says data pro 4g. Its not going to give you lte.
You need to have the imei of an att lte phone on your account then it will work.
I am sure that my data plan has LTE, I took it out my iPhone5 and I got LTE on my iPhone5. I have enabled the LTE and put the right APN. Still no data connection, I have not flashed it to a different modem. So what's wrong?
How to select the right LTE band? I have only select the "Network mode" to LTE/GSM/WCDMA(auto connect). and APN is that all?
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RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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+1
I dont think its same hardware too.
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RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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Whether or not he gets LTE on his phone is 100 percent dependant on the bands the phone supports.
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Finally I got everything work on my M919, It is because AT&T has to change the data plan to LTE Android plan, I was on LTE iPhone plan.
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RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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its my understanding that the T-Mobile version is boot loader unlocked so they aren't all the same. I'm looking to do the same thing as the OP here soon once I research what if any implications there really are at the end of the day.
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its my understanding that the T-Mobile version is boot loader unlocked so they aren't all the same. I'm looking to do the same thing as the OP here soon once I research what if any implications there really are at the end of the day.
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Yeah, for LTE bands, AT&T version has less bands due to their spectrum restriction: 700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E, while the T-Mobile version have all bands: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
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Yeah, for LTE bands, AT&T version has less bands due to their spectrum restriction: 700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E, while the T-Mobile version have all bands: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
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Sounds like you already know more than me be reading that line I take it that the tmobile version on AT&T gives you full support across all of atts network but if you used the att version on tmobile you miss out.
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Sounds like you already know more than me be reading that line I take it that the tmobile version on AT&T gives you full support across all of atts network but if you used the att version on t mobile you miss out.
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Incorrect-all AT&T LTE phones support Band 4 and Band 17-AT&T is predominately Band 17 and has a small Band 4 footprint. T-Mobile's entire LTE footprint is Band 4. The real issue with a TMO S4 is whether or not you can roam on AT&T LTE network when no native T-Mobile network exists-especially since T-Mobile switched many of their legacy plans with put a serious limit or outright block on data roaming.
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Incorrect-all AT&T LTE phones support Band 4 and Band 17-AT&T is predominately Band 17 and has a small Band 4 footprint. T-Mobile's entire LTE footprint is Band 4. The real issue with a TMO S4 is whether or not you can roam on AT&T LTE network when no native T-Mobile network exists-especially since T-Mobile switched many of their legacy plans with put a serious limit or outright block on data roaming.
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ahh ok. But with the case of getting of carrier unlocked and running a sim from att you're still fine right? Have to figure this out next if say someone gets the T-Mobile one, carrier unlocked can you install the myatt app from the play store or does it get blocked some how saying you aren't on a supported device?
RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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To avoid 2yr contracts, and to get the fastest dl speed.
Hey guys
I read the whole thread and I'm using the $65 data plan which has 1GB on ATT which my questions is which one should I get T-mobile or the international unlocked to get LTE on ATT
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Hey guys
I read the whole thread and I'm using the $65 data plan which has 1GB on ATT which my questions is which one should I get T-mobile or the international unlocked to get LTE on ATT
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T-mobile.
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