I've been a phone enthusiast for a long time. I noticed something strange with my Galaxy Nexus that I forgot about. I seen an iPhone do this and Windows Mobile does it too... but not android.
The screen backlight idle time vs turn off.
When the screens on, why not kill the backlight (or ultra dim for amoleds) after 15 seconds and then turn off the screen after like 30 seconds or something.
Usually in Windows Mobile, these were adjustable to your liking.
Why don't androids do this? The screen just cuts out and there is only 1 timer. To save battery I use 15s but once it turns off you have to unlock the damn phone again. This makes reading long paragraphs and emails frustrating.
Why not also have the lock screen NOT lock when the screen idles off... but rather a timer like 2min... UNLESS you manually hit the power button.
I never really noticed this until I got my N7 with a case that makes the power button awkward to reach. I have its screen idle off timer set to 2min.
I think it would be great to implement this into Android. Hope everyone follows what I'm trying to describe. And if your planning on posting anything along the lines of "well get an iTurd or Windoze" then just exit and go elsewhere. This is a serious discussion of the possibilities.
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player911 said:
I've been a phone enthusiast for a long time. I noticed something strange with my Galaxy Nexus that I forgot about. I seen an iPhone do this and Windows Mobile does it too... but not android.
The screen backlight idle time vs turn off.
When the screens on, why not kill the backlight (or ultra dim for amoleds) after 15 seconds and then turn off the screen after like 30 seconds or something.
Usually in Windows Mobile, these were adjustable to your liking.
Why don't androids do this? The screen just cuts out and there is only 1 timer. To save battery I use 15s but once it turns off you have to unlock the damn phone again. This makes reading long paragraphs and emails frustrating.
Why not also have the lock screen NOT lock when the screen idles off... but rather a timer like 2min... UNLESS you manually hit the power button.
I never really noticed this until I got my N7 with a case that makes the power button awkward to reach. I have its screen idle off timer set to 2min.
I think it would be great to implement this into Android. Hope everyone follows what I'm trying to describe. And if your planning on posting anything along the lines of "well get an iTurd or Windoze" then just exit and go elsewhere. This is a serious discussion of the possibilities.
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My phone dims quite a bit before it shuts off the screen.
I don't know about the other things, but there is in fact the ability to have the screen not lock immediately after it turns off. Set the timer in the Security menu.
If you use any other screen lock but "slide" you can adjust the time it'll take to really "lock" the phone. There is an option in the security settings.
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If you use any other screen lock but "slide" you can adjust the time it'll take to really "lock" the phone. There is an option in the security settings.
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welcome to nine minutes prior to your post
Lol. Smdh. We should change smartphone to phonesmart.
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leppo said:
welcome to nine minutes prior to your post
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Welcome to not hitting f5 every second, douche...
If I had seen your post I may not have bothered answering. Not sure why you'd feel the need to comment on someone saying the same as you, particularly since my post includes one very important additional information. This option is NOT available when you use the standard "slide to unlock" setting.
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Welcome to not hitting f5 every second, douche...
If I had seen your post I may not have bothered answering. Not sure why you'd feel the need to comment on someone saying the same as you, particularly since my post includes one very important additional information. This option is NOT available when you use the standard "slide to unlock" setting.
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awesome.
To be fair, OP wants the screen to lock if manually shut off, and to automatically lock after a certain period of time if the screen is automatically shut off as per the timer.
So technically no one's right!
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True... but also to dim before turning off.
My screen just shuts off after 15seconds. Same on my N7 after 2 minutes. Why isn't there a period when the backlight/screen dims before turning off.
For example:
After 10s - Dims to lowest brightness.
After 30s - Screen turns off.
After 1min - Phone locks.
P.S. I just disable my lock screen. Its refreshing to not have to swipe it all the time. Unless you have a security pin or FaceUnlock, a typical swipe is pretty pointless. With the power button on the side, I doubt well be unlocking it accidentally. The chances of turning on the phone, somehow hitting phone, and somehow navigating and selecting a contact is so slim.
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I have my setting at 30 seconds.
After 20 seconds the screen dims and at 30 it turns off.
Its always had this behavior. On every android phone I've had.
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El Daddy said:
I have my setting at 30 seconds.
After 20 seconds the screen dims and at 30 it turns off.
Its always had this behavior. On every android phone I've had.
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+1 My screen dims before shutting off as well. If I'm reading or something and I see the screen dim, I know to give it a tap so it doesn't turn off. Ever since I had my Samsung Moment...
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I already mentioned that mine did this, but I have always wanted to do a +1 so...
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Yep mine too while reading. As stated above when I see the screen dim I have to tap it from sleeping.
Also, with most custom ROMs (not sure about stock) in screen security or lock screen settings you can generally set 1) how long until the screen turns off 2) how long the phone will stay unlocked after the screen has gone off and 3) whether or not pressing the power button immediately locks the phone or not.
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Hmmm. Well I guess since I have mine set to 15s it just shuts off. My N7 runs EOS nightlies and it doesn't dim either with a 2min setting.
It would be nice to have a dimmer timer though to control the dim/sleep differences.
What rom is that because I'm on the latest Liquid and there aren't any options like that in the security settings.
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They are there just not for slide or none. Kinda weird.
30s does dim after 20s but barely. Seems the iPhone does this sooner, like 10s and dims much much more. I'm just thinking that with a big power hungry display, it would be beneficial to tweak these timers to minimize wasteful unused screen-on time.
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The ROM in those screenshots is Dark Paranoid Android. Sorry, should have mentioned that.
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If you go to the Display settings, then Automatic backlight, you can check "use custom" which then allows you to set the screen dim level. Its default is 20, but you can set it to 1 if you really want to see it dim.
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Hmmm. Well I guess since I have mine set to 15s it just shuts off. My N7 runs EOS nightlies and it doesn't dim either with a 2min setting.
It would be nice to have a dimmer timer though to control the dim/sleep differences.
What rom is that because I'm on the latest Liquid and there aren't any options like that in the security settings.
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They are there just not for slide or none. Kinda weird.
30s does dim after 20s but barely. Seems the iPhone does this sooner, like 10s and dims much much more. I'm just thinking that with a big power hungry display, it would be beneficial to tweak these timers to minimize wasteful unused screen-on time.
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Maybe its app specific? My N7 dims too, but NOT if Google Books is open and active.
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...while on the phone? The screen goes black in a matter of seconds and isn't affected by the general timeout setting. This can be a real PITA while navigating a VRU system.
Have you tried going into settings/display/screen timeout?
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Have you tried going into settings/display/screen timeout?
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That is the general timeout setting I was referring to, and it doesn't affect screen timeout while on the phone.
That's strange it shouldn't be timing out on you then. Maybe check the settings on the application your using and see if theres a reason it might be shutting off then.
i know when i had the mt4g and even my current G2x the display would turn off while talking on the phone then re-appear anytime i held it away from my head, probaly just the sensor.
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...while on the phone? The screen goes black in a matter of seconds and isn't affected by the general timeout setting. This can be a real PITA while navigating a VRU system.
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Mine does this too.. If I am on a call, the screen turns off rather quickly. I need to be able to toggle the mute during conference calls and it is a real PITA to have to hit the power button first every time.
CrozB said:
Mine does this too.. If I am on a call, the screen turns off rather quickly. I need to be able to toggle the mute during conference calls and it is a real PITA to have to hit the power button first every time.
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Pain in Le Tush!
This sounds like a really stupid solution but I have experienced the same issue before hand. What I realized was in many cases when I was going to touch the screen my hand was getting close to the sensor on top that shuts off the screen while on a call. You know like when you put it next to your face to ensure that you aren't pushing buttons. Not sure if that is it, but just speaking from personal experience.
Mine does this sometimes , it just did it on this xda app and i know it wasent 30 seconds yet. also sometimes it doesnt lock just comes right back on after i hit the button
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Its just like my lock sceen time , if i go to lock sceen but press nothing it will go black in 5 seconds
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This sounds like a really stupid solution but I have experienced the same issue before hand. What I realized was in many cases when I was going to touch the screen my hand was getting close to the sensor on top that shuts off the screen while on a call. You know like when you put it next to your face to ensure that you aren't pushing buttons. Not sure if that is it, but just speaking from personal experience.
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This is what I figured out after 20 or so times hitting the power button while on the phone.
The screen automatically comes back on in 1-2 seconds when you pull the phone away from your ear. Once I realized this, I stopped fouling it up by turning the screen off and on again with the power button. It would be nice if this delay could be adjusted, but it seems to work alright as is.
There is nothing wrong worth any of your phones as far as I know it's not adjustable yet.your phone does this while making a call to prevent your face from making a three way call or accidentally hanging up on whoever your talking to. Some one can correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I've heard and read several times and my samsung captivate did the same thing.
If you pull the phone away from your face so that the sensor can pick up the change in ambient light, or what ever it is that it does your screen should come back on shortly.to be honest
I kind of wish it would react faster, but it's still pretty good.
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mine does this when not on a call , i think the sensor is only on while talking
when i use wireless to be on the web while im on the phone it still constantly MAKES the SCREEN dark like when youre just on the phone. is there any way to prevent the screen from turning off? thanks
System settings...... Display...... Sleep..... Change the sleep time should have an option for never when charging I think. If not turn that time up to max.
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dont see any sleep option in display. theres a screen tiime out but even putting that on 10 minutes it immediately went dark
Oh you mean dim.... yeah I'm unsure.
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Hi guys,
Did any body nanaged go get this function working. Even though the appropriate setting is ticked I can't get the the phone light up when switched off!
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I hope ur not turning the phone off while testing this function. .. The screen had to be locked. ..
Anyway. .. You have to swipe your hand over the light sensor while screen is off
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Place the phone on flat surface after locking it.
Now swipe your hand over your phone screen from top to bottom without touching the screen.
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Just hover your hands over the light sensor, but you have to do it kind of slowly and also it response at least 1s after you have hovered your hand over your phone. It's not really that useful of a function, more of a gimmick.
I do want to ask, do these motion functions really drain the battery a lot? As this means the motion sensor is always on.
juliano76 said:
Hi guys,
Did any body nanaged go get this function working. Even though the appropriate setting is ticked I can't get the the phone light up when switched off!
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i cant seem to get it working neither.... it only works in the quick glance motion tutorial... very weird. am i missing some other settings? motion is on, quick glance ticked, screen lock is setup, anything else??
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i cant seem to get it working neither.... it only works in the quick glance motion tutorial... very weird. am i missing some other settings? motion is on, quick glance ticked, screen lock is setup, anything else??
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Its a cr*p feature -- or at least the implementation is. You need to sort of hover or cup your hand over the sensors and move it away slowly. Then sometimes it 'works', which means if you do it right about a second or two later the screen slowly wakes up and shows some info. All this takes 4-5 seconds, in which time you could have quickly switched the screen on and off anyways in lesser time.
Gimmick, as someone has pointed out above.
Not only your hand, but anything that cover the light sensor.
Try to calibrate the gyroscope
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i cant seem to get it working neither.... it only works in the quick glance motion tutorial... very weird. am i missing some other settings? motion is on, quick glance ticked, screen lock is setup, anything else??
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Hi, this is my first post here.
Please try to calibrate your gyroscope
To do this go to Advance settings and calibrate it.
I have question too about this QUICK glance (but actually slow glance)
I like this to use to check the time specially during night.
But it is really not quick when I use mine and my friend sister told me that hers is fast.
Does somebody know how to do it make it fast?
kind of a useless feature IMO. doesn't display much in the quick glance screen. much easier to just press the home key.
Yeah, ur right the home button is faster. But I dont believe this is crap feature, it depends in situation. In my side I use this glance feature during night and wake up to check the time not hurting the eye for glare. And in theater also you can use this to check the time, it is really respectfull if you try not to distract others inside the theater.
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I think it's useful for checking the time at night.
I just quickly pass my hand over the front and a second later time is illuminated for a few seconds
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guys, it works fine. just hover your hand in front of the sensor just in and out just like that all in less than1 second for me. it works everytime perfectly. very convenient. can someone confirm if this drains massive amounts of battery or negligible.
After trying the feature several times -- during which it did not work -- I then went in and did the gyroscope calibration. Then went back in, turned Motion on, and turned Quick Glance on. Now it works.
It was working for me up until last week, now my light sensor and or my proximity sensor seem to have stopped working all together. I am unable to get it to work at all. Is there any way to increase the light sensor sensitivity?
Works fine here.
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It works just fine, but my problem is I like to have a screen timeout of 10 minutes, and manually turn my phone off when I want. Half the time I would click it off and set it down, it would immediately wake back up because my hand was over/near the sensor as I set it down.
Works perfect here whatever screen timeout I have set.
Remember that the phone had to be perfectly still and possibly on a level surface for it to work.
Regarding using battery I've read that the n2 has a slower processor dedicated to the motion features do doesn't fire up the main processor when using these features.
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This feature is ok, but it's something a lot of people can live without. It'd be more impressive for us if Samsung extended this to other controls in their main apps, such as allowing this gesture when you receive a call. Wave your hand over the phone and it'll automatically pick up the call in speakphone mode. The Pantech Sky Vega had this feature when it launched last year and something like this is super useful if you're working with your hands (getting them dirty).
http://youtu.be/dG8tfaJswuY
It works for me to.
It also works for the flip cover. So when I just open the cover the glance appears then swipe the screen to unlock..no hard buttons to push
The question though.
I how can we tell if it does drain the battery.?
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Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
You are correct.
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Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time the watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time to watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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Ok, thanks for confirming! I definitely have something wrong, then. I've factory reset several times and even taken off most apps, and it still happens. Looks like it might be the watch.
I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
I believe the Always on Feature is not for having your watch face on all the time, but rather it dims your watch face but you still can tell the time with just the darker screen. It's not going to keep your watch face fully lit if that option is turned on.
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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Most of the folks that make the WatchMaker faces either just dim the face, or they make a dimmed mode face that looks like it has phosphorous markings. I personally make custom dimmed modes. My favorite method is to make a blood red version of the face with just the essential features. The moon phase ones can look BAD ASS with the blood red moon phase on a pure black background. This is the only watch I have ever actually gotten comments on in public. When people see it they notice that it ain't no normal watch, and it ain't no Apple watch.
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Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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I think the battery life would just be too short if you left the face on all the time, all the time meaning the watch never went into dim mode. Just run tilt on, and don't wear the watch to loose. Especially at night if the watch never dimmed that would get annoying as hell it's so bright.
'god guys, really????
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I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
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Come on guys you do understand ambient mode right? When the main screen of the watch face shuts down it goes into ambient mode, which is simply black and white. Just like any pure android device. (i.e. Nexus 6) If you do not understand of know of this behaviour please stop posting and do some research. 'The watch is acting as it is suppose to in Android Wear. Just like notifications on a Nexus device. Google is your friend.
So is YouTube and understanding the android system as of today. Come on, get a clue.
Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
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Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
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Well, I know what I personally thought was confusing is that "always on" isn't actually always on when charging. When on the charger, display turns off completely after a time. That's different behavior from what I'm used to based on the Moto X, which has AMOLED and still displayed ambient information on the screen when charging/docked. I find it a little odd that there is no built-in charging/docked display that uses the ambient (dimmed) display mode.
But to be sure, my watch definitely had something wrong with it. I just received a replacement unit yesterday, so I'll be testing it out today to see if it's able to stay dimmed as it should when off the charger.
Be attencion with "always on" mode, this is screen after four days (contrast on level 3).
I've had the "Ranger" watch face on with a full colour ambient mode and not experiencing any burn-in. Every minute it shifts the image somewhat in order to reduce any burn in effect. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.watch.face.ranger.military .
Just to cease any confusion. Always On means the screen is always on. After a few seconds, the screen will dim and go into a black/white ambient mode to reserve power.
The OP says his screen is turning completely off. So it seems there is a problem there. Every Watch face has a different ambient mode. Perhaps the one you are using has a broken ambient mode and not displaying data.
I found the best way to make a watch face is to build one yourself. Purje Black is awesome for this (truely amazing app). I am not going to do a full review but the transition between full on and ambient mode is animated, looks fantastic, has lots of Hotspots to launch various apps like weather, Google Fit data, etc, and displays it in a awesome format.
But the best feature is that you can customize the ambient mode separately from the actual face. They also support community made themes, so just browse their Google Plus theme page, find one you like, customize it to how you want it and save it.
Just be careful with your AMOLED screen that you don't have any information that is static in ambient mode, like numbers, hour marks, etc. I prefer a Digital clock/Calendar date on my Amoled, but have a nice looking analog with various information on my full face.
The device going to sleep is normal. It will go from full on to ambient mode and from there if the watch isn't moved for 30 minutes it will shut the screen off. See below from Google.
"You can set the display to show the time or turn off completely when you're not using the watch. If set to turn off, the screen will turn on when you turn your wrist or touch the screen.*
Tip: Letting your screen turn off when you're not using the watch will help improve battery life. If the watch hasn't moved for 30 minutes, the screen will turn off even if you have it set to remain always on. To wake your watch, tilt it or press the power button."
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Hi
I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
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I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
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First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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Thanks, i have root..........but still cannot find an App to do this, i still would like to try.
Ho about limiting brightness to lower level than level 1. While I,m not using watch, just before it goes to ambient, I can See brightness dimmed to lower than minimum and after, ambient turns on, whitch is brighter. What can i do to use lowest levels all the time?
Stay Lit Wear
In case you haven't found it yet, search Google Play for "Stay Lit Wear."
Anyone else getting an auto dim of the screen randomly? I have a T-Mobile HTC 10 which is apparently 2 versions behind the unlocked models and I'm getting a weird issue where my screen does not have auto brightness enabled and the brightness is near max, yet the screen will randomly auto dim pretty dark but the brightness settings haven't changed. I am planning on changing my T-Mobile version into the US Unlocked model (software wise) to see if this helps...
Yes. Have seen this as well. Annoying when trying to take pictures, and the screen suddenly auto dims. ATT on BadBoyz.
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Yes. Have seen this as well. Annoying when trying to take pictures, and the screen suddenly auto dims. ATT on BadBoyz.
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It's been happening to me as well.
Did you guys solve that? I am having the same issue. Although it only happened after my battery went grey and showed an exclamation point for no reason. I reboot and it started doing that especially in chrome
Mine does the same thing. I'm on the latest US unlocked. Kind of annoying.
Well my easy solution is turn auto brightness off I mean really 90% us here can operate our phones with eyes closed so having to adjust a screen brightness even when u can't see screen is easy I do it daily I mean I found half way be a happy med I can go outside in sun see just a lil kinda makes more private lol
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Well my easy solution is turn auto brightness off I mean really 90% us here can operate our phones with eyes closed so having to adjust a screen brightness even when u can't see screen is easy I do it daily I mean I found half way be a happy med I can go outside in sun see just a lil kinda makes more private lol
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The problem is the screen auto-dimming on its own, nothing to do with manually changing the brightness level
Im on viper I have all power save off and all auto brightness or anything to do with screen that's auto off I have had any issues now that being said... When I uses a force doze app it will go really bright when it turns sensor back on then right back to my manual setting but this only happens when using force doze app