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Hi am looking for an app that will still allow my phone to dim after so many seconds but not completely off. Anybody know of one or know how to do it with android?
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My old phone had a car mode that kept the screen on dim and unlocked. It was real handy for stuff like pandora. I think android has pulled it since 2.2 but im also interested in something like this for ics
Actually this still works, first figure out hoe to launch car mode from that vlingo app or download a car mode launcher app. Next download an app called car dock settings by ig88 and uncheck all the options except disable screen timeout. Now whenever the phone is in car mode after 30 seconds or whatever it will just dim but not lock. There must be a better way though.
You know most phones have had this option in the apps development settings to have screen always on when charging. It would eventually dim but never time out or turn off. I believe it's disabled on our phones due to that it uses an amoled screen. Leaving amoled screens on for long periods of time with a static image will cause the image to be burnt onto the screen. You can try searching the market for screen timeout for apps that will allow this and I believe there were some roms that allowed longer screen time out time and also the development option of screen always on, but just be careful that it will have a negative impact on the life of your screen.
examples of this issue here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937667
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551974
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388173
I've been a phone enthusiast for a long time. I noticed something strange with my Galaxy Nexus that I forgot about. I seen an iPhone do this and Windows Mobile does it too... but not android.
The screen backlight idle time vs turn off.
When the screens on, why not kill the backlight (or ultra dim for amoleds) after 15 seconds and then turn off the screen after like 30 seconds or something.
Usually in Windows Mobile, these were adjustable to your liking.
Why don't androids do this? The screen just cuts out and there is only 1 timer. To save battery I use 15s but once it turns off you have to unlock the damn phone again. This makes reading long paragraphs and emails frustrating.
Why not also have the lock screen NOT lock when the screen idles off... but rather a timer like 2min... UNLESS you manually hit the power button.
I never really noticed this until I got my N7 with a case that makes the power button awkward to reach. I have its screen idle off timer set to 2min.
I think it would be great to implement this into Android. Hope everyone follows what I'm trying to describe. And if your planning on posting anything along the lines of "well get an iTurd or Windoze" then just exit and go elsewhere. This is a serious discussion of the possibilities.
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player911 said:
I've been a phone enthusiast for a long time. I noticed something strange with my Galaxy Nexus that I forgot about. I seen an iPhone do this and Windows Mobile does it too... but not android.
The screen backlight idle time vs turn off.
When the screens on, why not kill the backlight (or ultra dim for amoleds) after 15 seconds and then turn off the screen after like 30 seconds or something.
Usually in Windows Mobile, these were adjustable to your liking.
Why don't androids do this? The screen just cuts out and there is only 1 timer. To save battery I use 15s but once it turns off you have to unlock the damn phone again. This makes reading long paragraphs and emails frustrating.
Why not also have the lock screen NOT lock when the screen idles off... but rather a timer like 2min... UNLESS you manually hit the power button.
I never really noticed this until I got my N7 with a case that makes the power button awkward to reach. I have its screen idle off timer set to 2min.
I think it would be great to implement this into Android. Hope everyone follows what I'm trying to describe. And if your planning on posting anything along the lines of "well get an iTurd or Windoze" then just exit and go elsewhere. This is a serious discussion of the possibilities.
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My phone dims quite a bit before it shuts off the screen.
I don't know about the other things, but there is in fact the ability to have the screen not lock immediately after it turns off. Set the timer in the Security menu.
If you use any other screen lock but "slide" you can adjust the time it'll take to really "lock" the phone. There is an option in the security settings.
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If you use any other screen lock but "slide" you can adjust the time it'll take to really "lock" the phone. There is an option in the security settings.
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welcome to nine minutes prior to your post
Lol. Smdh. We should change smartphone to phonesmart.
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welcome to nine minutes prior to your post
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Welcome to not hitting f5 every second, douche...
If I had seen your post I may not have bothered answering. Not sure why you'd feel the need to comment on someone saying the same as you, particularly since my post includes one very important additional information. This option is NOT available when you use the standard "slide to unlock" setting.
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Welcome to not hitting f5 every second, douche...
If I had seen your post I may not have bothered answering. Not sure why you'd feel the need to comment on someone saying the same as you, particularly since my post includes one very important additional information. This option is NOT available when you use the standard "slide to unlock" setting.
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awesome.
To be fair, OP wants the screen to lock if manually shut off, and to automatically lock after a certain period of time if the screen is automatically shut off as per the timer.
So technically no one's right!
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True... but also to dim before turning off.
My screen just shuts off after 15seconds. Same on my N7 after 2 minutes. Why isn't there a period when the backlight/screen dims before turning off.
For example:
After 10s - Dims to lowest brightness.
After 30s - Screen turns off.
After 1min - Phone locks.
P.S. I just disable my lock screen. Its refreshing to not have to swipe it all the time. Unless you have a security pin or FaceUnlock, a typical swipe is pretty pointless. With the power button on the side, I doubt well be unlocking it accidentally. The chances of turning on the phone, somehow hitting phone, and somehow navigating and selecting a contact is so slim.
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I have my setting at 30 seconds.
After 20 seconds the screen dims and at 30 it turns off.
Its always had this behavior. On every android phone I've had.
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El Daddy said:
I have my setting at 30 seconds.
After 20 seconds the screen dims and at 30 it turns off.
Its always had this behavior. On every android phone I've had.
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+1 My screen dims before shutting off as well. If I'm reading or something and I see the screen dim, I know to give it a tap so it doesn't turn off. Ever since I had my Samsung Moment...
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I already mentioned that mine did this, but I have always wanted to do a +1 so...
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Yep mine too while reading. As stated above when I see the screen dim I have to tap it from sleeping.
Also, with most custom ROMs (not sure about stock) in screen security or lock screen settings you can generally set 1) how long until the screen turns off 2) how long the phone will stay unlocked after the screen has gone off and 3) whether or not pressing the power button immediately locks the phone or not.
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Hmmm. Well I guess since I have mine set to 15s it just shuts off. My N7 runs EOS nightlies and it doesn't dim either with a 2min setting.
It would be nice to have a dimmer timer though to control the dim/sleep differences.
What rom is that because I'm on the latest Liquid and there aren't any options like that in the security settings.
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They are there just not for slide or none. Kinda weird.
30s does dim after 20s but barely. Seems the iPhone does this sooner, like 10s and dims much much more. I'm just thinking that with a big power hungry display, it would be beneficial to tweak these timers to minimize wasteful unused screen-on time.
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The ROM in those screenshots is Dark Paranoid Android. Sorry, should have mentioned that.
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If you go to the Display settings, then Automatic backlight, you can check "use custom" which then allows you to set the screen dim level. Its default is 20, but you can set it to 1 if you really want to see it dim.
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player911 said:
Hmmm. Well I guess since I have mine set to 15s it just shuts off. My N7 runs EOS nightlies and it doesn't dim either with a 2min setting.
It would be nice to have a dimmer timer though to control the dim/sleep differences.
What rom is that because I'm on the latest Liquid and there aren't any options like that in the security settings.
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They are there just not for slide or none. Kinda weird.
30s does dim after 20s but barely. Seems the iPhone does this sooner, like 10s and dims much much more. I'm just thinking that with a big power hungry display, it would be beneficial to tweak these timers to minimize wasteful unused screen-on time.
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Maybe its app specific? My N7 dims too, but NOT if Google Books is open and active.
i am under the understanding that the note 2 will not dim and black out the screen as long as i am reading and it can see my eyes. i dont know why but it keeps doing this on my phone. i see the eye icon pop up here and there on the status bar but ive had no luck fixing this.
help please!
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i am under the understanding that the note 2 will not dim and black out the screen as long as i am reading and it can see my eyes. i dont know why but it keeps doing this on my phone. i see the eye icon pop up here and there on the status bar but ive had no luck fixing this.
help please!
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you want to disable it? display-> uncheck smart stay
? Are you saying that , even though you have smart stay on your phone still turns off .... It's works for me when the lighting is right.. Why not make the screen timeout longer.. Sorry
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i want the screen to stay on as long as im looking at it. i have my timeout set to 15 sec when im not looking at it. smart stay is checked in the display options. the reason i dont want to extend the timeout is because i read articles for news and sometimes its 30 sec and sometimes 5 min. gets annoying with it blacking out the screen.
Smart stay seems to work in 2 phases. the First check is done slightly before the timeout period in which it dims the screen. The second check is done at the time out period and will turn the screen off if it does not detect eyes. Keep in mind it's using the front facing camera to detect your eyes so If your looking lower on the screen or looking at an angle it may not catch your eyes. Also note that poor lighting can result in a failure of smart stay detecting your eyes. I notice I cant rely on smart stay when browsing right before bed with the lights off or early morning.
Hope this helps.
So after messing around with a few suggestions of people who did this accidentally. I have been able to repeat it every night.
1. Put the phone on the charger with ambient mode on or off doesn't matter.
2. Go into android wear app on your phone.
3. When the watch face has dimmed on the charger switch ambient mode on,(using the phone) the screen with go bright again then it will dim. Once it has dimmed wait 5 seconds and turn ambient mode to off. The screen should now turn off on the watch.
4. If you put it on the charger with ambient mode enabled wait for it to dim, wait 5 seconds then switch ambient mode off. If the face doesn't turn off you are now able to start at step 3 so that's why it didn't matter how you started.
This is the first time I've had something to contribute, so let me know how it works for you. I'll post a video when I get home, unless someone beats me to it. My build is KGW42R if that makes a difference.
This was posted before, but thanks for the contribution.
I'm hoping they eventually put an option in the settings to auto disable display while charging.
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This was posted before, but thanks for the contribution.
I'm hoping they eventually put an option in the settings to auto disable display while charging.
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Ah, my bad. Last I had seen it was a few pages into a thread. Well nobody should have to ask the question on how to I suppose. You have two sources lol
Anyone know how to automate this using tasker? Or some shell script?
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for me, after i do this, screen turns off... but eventually in the night, the watch turns back on, i think when my phone does some kinda of check or gets a notification, the watch turns back on... so for me its useless..
Even if the screen is off all night is it safe to leave it on charge all night, especially as it is fully charged after 2 hrs? I've only had my watch since Monday so still figuring out the best practice but I've been charging it for a bit in the evening before heading off to sleep, completely turning it off and then in the morning while getting ready just putting it on the charger to a) turn on and b) charge fully.
I know in the manual it says that it has smart technology to protect it against overcharging but does it not stay hot all night on the cradle?
I would not recommend putting it on charge overnight with the back getting hot and the plastic back being crack prone
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Thank you for this. Will come in handy when my Moto 360 arrives sometime next week.
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I would not recommend putting it on charge overnight with the back getting hot and the plastic back being crack prone
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Non-issue. The back barely gets hot and even if it does just don't pull on the strap to the point that it causes pressure. Or simply take it off the charger for a minute before putting it on. It's not like its getting hot enough to melt the plastic. You can most definitely charge it overnight without a problem.
I've been doing this since I got the watch but last night after I installed the update the trick won't work. I go through the entire process and all goes like normal, but about 10 seconds after the screen shuts off, the backlight turns on. Anyone else having this issue?
nick.XIII said:
I've been doing this since I got the watch but last night after I installed the update the trick won't work. I go through the entire process and all goes like normal, but about 10 seconds after the screen shuts off, the backlight turns on. Anyone else having this issue?
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I've noticed the backlight is on but it's still black. I guess at least it reduces the chance of the graphics getting stuck.
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New update installed and the trick still works. No backlight just screen off.
I noticed that i dont have to be accurate and time 5-10 seconds after screen fades. It works anytime after the screen faded.
Anyway, thanks for the great tip!! :good:
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I've been doing this since I got the watch but last night after I installed the update the trick won't work. I go through the entire process and all goes like normal, but about 10 seconds after the screen shuts off, the backlight turns on. Anyone else having this issue?
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I actually am having this issue. I usually turn off bluetooth on my phone right away, but the watch seems to continue to turn back on with the black screen only, which happened to drain my battery and make the watch really hot. Kinda strange.
This works for me without any issue, even after the last update from yesterday.
I just put the watch on the charger, then from the phone I set the Ambient Mode to ON, then to OFF and the screen turns off.
But here is the trick that I have noticed: you MUST have no light in the room, or cover the watch screen while doing the procedure. If there is light in the room, it won't work ! I accidentally discovered this.
There is also a build.prop edit in the development forum that allows you to change a line and when the watch is put on the charger, it does it automatically.
If you don't want to root your watch and you have a rooted phone, I made an app that does the button pressing for you
So the option to turn off the Display on Charger (Developer Menu) is not fixed?
Not to my knowledge.
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There is also a build.prop edit in the development forum that allows you to change a line and when the watch is put on the charger, it does it automatically.
If you don't want to root your watch and you have a rooted phone, I made an app that does the button pressing for you
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Hi can you share the app pls thank you?
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I noticed the trick using the ambient setting works does turn off the display immediately but after a while ( not sure how long) the back light comes back. You see a faint back light with screen not nothing showing anything. Can only see this in pitch black at night all lights off
Anyone see the same behaviour?
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https://plus.google.com/109468208780802399420/posts/fZ2YkEkH7aT
The app that will do the same actions
With the latest update, this method doesn't work anymore. The screen will always turn on with a black screen after a couple of seconds. I don't think I will be charging it overnight anymore and just wait to charge it in the morning while getting ready.
Wish moto would give us an option to use nightstand mode or not. Even when dimmed it's still bright while sleeping.
Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
You are correct.
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Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time the watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time to watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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Ok, thanks for confirming! I definitely have something wrong, then. I've factory reset several times and even taken off most apps, and it still happens. Looks like it might be the watch.
I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
I believe the Always on Feature is not for having your watch face on all the time, but rather it dims your watch face but you still can tell the time with just the darker screen. It's not going to keep your watch face fully lit if that option is turned on.
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
rbs_uk said:
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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Most of the folks that make the WatchMaker faces either just dim the face, or they make a dimmed mode face that looks like it has phosphorous markings. I personally make custom dimmed modes. My favorite method is to make a blood red version of the face with just the essential features. The moon phase ones can look BAD ASS with the blood red moon phase on a pure black background. This is the only watch I have ever actually gotten comments on in public. When people see it they notice that it ain't no normal watch, and it ain't no Apple watch.
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Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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I think the battery life would just be too short if you left the face on all the time, all the time meaning the watch never went into dim mode. Just run tilt on, and don't wear the watch to loose. Especially at night if the watch never dimmed that would get annoying as hell it's so bright.
'god guys, really????
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I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
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Come on guys you do understand ambient mode right? When the main screen of the watch face shuts down it goes into ambient mode, which is simply black and white. Just like any pure android device. (i.e. Nexus 6) If you do not understand of know of this behaviour please stop posting and do some research. 'The watch is acting as it is suppose to in Android Wear. Just like notifications on a Nexus device. Google is your friend.
So is YouTube and understanding the android system as of today. Come on, get a clue.
Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
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Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
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Well, I know what I personally thought was confusing is that "always on" isn't actually always on when charging. When on the charger, display turns off completely after a time. That's different behavior from what I'm used to based on the Moto X, which has AMOLED and still displayed ambient information on the screen when charging/docked. I find it a little odd that there is no built-in charging/docked display that uses the ambient (dimmed) display mode.
But to be sure, my watch definitely had something wrong with it. I just received a replacement unit yesterday, so I'll be testing it out today to see if it's able to stay dimmed as it should when off the charger.
Be attencion with "always on" mode, this is screen after four days (contrast on level 3).
I've had the "Ranger" watch face on with a full colour ambient mode and not experiencing any burn-in. Every minute it shifts the image somewhat in order to reduce any burn in effect. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.watch.face.ranger.military .
Just to cease any confusion. Always On means the screen is always on. After a few seconds, the screen will dim and go into a black/white ambient mode to reserve power.
The OP says his screen is turning completely off. So it seems there is a problem there. Every Watch face has a different ambient mode. Perhaps the one you are using has a broken ambient mode and not displaying data.
I found the best way to make a watch face is to build one yourself. Purje Black is awesome for this (truely amazing app). I am not going to do a full review but the transition between full on and ambient mode is animated, looks fantastic, has lots of Hotspots to launch various apps like weather, Google Fit data, etc, and displays it in a awesome format.
But the best feature is that you can customize the ambient mode separately from the actual face. They also support community made themes, so just browse their Google Plus theme page, find one you like, customize it to how you want it and save it.
Just be careful with your AMOLED screen that you don't have any information that is static in ambient mode, like numbers, hour marks, etc. I prefer a Digital clock/Calendar date on my Amoled, but have a nice looking analog with various information on my full face.
The device going to sleep is normal. It will go from full on to ambient mode and from there if the watch isn't moved for 30 minutes it will shut the screen off. See below from Google.
"You can set the display to show the time or turn off completely when you're not using the watch. If set to turn off, the screen will turn on when you turn your wrist or touch the screen.*
Tip: Letting your screen turn off when you're not using the watch will help improve battery life. If the watch hasn't moved for 30 minutes, the screen will turn off even if you have it set to remain always on. To wake your watch, tilt it or press the power button."
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Hi
I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
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Hi
I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
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First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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crawrj said:
First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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Thanks, i have root..........but still cannot find an App to do this, i still would like to try.
Ho about limiting brightness to lower level than level 1. While I,m not using watch, just before it goes to ambient, I can See brightness dimmed to lower than minimum and after, ambient turns on, whitch is brighter. What can i do to use lowest levels all the time?
Stay Lit Wear
In case you haven't found it yet, search Google Play for "Stay Lit Wear."