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Hi,
I've just noticed the Performance settings menu under the CyanogenMod Settings menu and I wanted to give overclock and other features a try...safely.
I'm looking for increasing my Wildfire's performance in a remarkable way but without harming or causing any trouble to the phone. So I'd like to start in a quite conservative way.
What governor should I choose? (default: smartass)
What max and min CPU frequency? (default 518 and 352 Mhz)
What about the VM heap size? (default 24m)
What do you guys use as your settings?
Thanks a lot!
Governor : Smartass
CPU Speeds : 264 Min, 652 Max
VM Heap Size : 32 M
Remember, don't expect miracles by OC'ing your CPU. You'll probably be disappointed.
Thanks for answering!
In the meanwhile I set up 264 as min and 691 as max...is that too much and potentially dangerous?
No miracles indeed but the phone felt a bit more snappy when playing games for example.
Do you know where I can find some info about the different governors?
Also, what is exactly the VM heap size?
Thank you!
No, wont harm it. Only if you experience instability, reduce it to the next (Or rather, Previous) level.
CPU Governors:
* ondemand – Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see “up threshold” in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
* conservative – Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
* performance – Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “max” set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting “max” and “min” to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for CPU load.
* powersave – Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “min” set value at all times.
* userspace – A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
(The above wall of text is lifted from SetCPU's site)
In addition to that , Smartass is really the smart one. When your screen is on, the minimum frequency will automatically be set to 518 MHz, making your phone seem it is flying, and, when the screen is off, then, it reverts back to the minimum set value, and saves battery - Best of both worlds!
As for VM Heap Size, it is the maximum amount of heap space (i.e. memory) a single instance of the Dalvik VM (application) can obtain. Technical concept, but, you can read it up more if you like.
Thanks a lot for the insigthful reply, everything's clearer now!
i put everything on max. but thats just me. phone works fine though :L
Hi,
What's the best setting for my battery? It drains so fast.
Mine is as following:
Min.: 245 Mhz
Max.: 537 Mhz
INTERACTIVE
I have to charge the Phone every evening, thats a bit annoying.
Thank you in advance
When using the cyanogenmod settings for the cpu speed,setcpu isn't required anymore right?
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FrydaeXIII said:
When using the cyanogenmod settings for the cpu speed,setcpu isn't required anymore right?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Yes, you are right. Conflicting apps are never recommended.
thanks for the tip...
Hello there,
I've been flashing kernels since I was in LeeDroid Froyo and got no problems. However since I switched to GB based roms such as RCMix3D and TB Fusion, my phone always freezes when I try setting Kernel-Lee-V3.1.1-2.6.35.13-CALLREC or MDJs v19 to maximum overclock so I have no choice to but to stay on stock kernel. I have no ext3/ext4 partition on my SD card in case you ask.
Current ROM: TB Fusion 1.1.2
Radio: 12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_M2
Any idea what should I do to solve this issue?
golokipok said:
Hello there,
I've been flashing kernels since I was in LeeDroid Froyo and got no problems. However since I switched to GB based roms such as RCMix3D and TB Fusion, my phone always freezes when I try setting Kernel-Lee-V3.1.1-2.6.35.13-CALLREC or MDJs v19 to maximum overclock
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uoooo this is sooo dangerous for your handset... u can "smoke" it...
Any idea what should I do to solve this issue?
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yes, your handset freezes because the overclock that u do its too high... underclock it at 1200-1400mhz & try...
and configure SET CPU features... like the standby status, etc....but do it with common sense....
think about that DHD proccessor goes by default at 1gz, really when we overclock the processor we are putting in danger the security of our device
SERGI.3210 said:
uoooo this is sooo dangerous for your handset... u can "smoke" it...
yes, your handset freezes because the overclock that u do its too high... underclock it at 1200-1400mhz & try...
and configure SET CPU features... like the standby status, etc....but do it with common sense....
think about that DHD proccessor goes by default at 1gz, really when we overclock the processor we are putting in danger the security of our device
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Haha! I know that overclocking is quite dangerous. Back on the froyo days, my phone is quite stable around 1.8ghz so I'm just wondering why is this happening (maybe my phone's processor is starting to fry up? ). Is there any effect if I'm using smartass profile on those kernels I've mentioned?
golokipok said:
Haha! I know that overclocking is quite dangerous. Back on the froyo days, my phone is quite stable around 1.8ghz so I'm just wondering why is this happening (maybe my phone's processor is starting to fry up? ).
i hope that the processor works or not works (don´t crashes a little bit...)
but the reason of your freezes maybe (almost sure) because froyo & gingerbread don´t works at the same form, and gingerbread need more resources & stability for to work correct... don´t forget that the kernel manages the hardware...
if u force it......... u know what can happen...
golokipok said:
there any effect if I'm using smartass profile on those kernels I've mentioned?
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it´s possible, take this explanation, read and judge by yourself what´s the better cpu governor...
smartass (Best explanation i've found paraphrases to: based on interactive, but better.)
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ondemand
Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed. - SetCPU website
conservative
Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery. - SetCPU website
performance
Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking. - SetCPU website
powersave
Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times. - SetCPU website
userspace
A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor. - SetCPU website
Interactive
The 'interactive' governor has a different approach. Instead of sampling the cpu
at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming
out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire
within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer
fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.
If the cpu was not 100% busy, then the governor evaluates the cpu load over the
last 'min_sample_rate' (default 50000 uS) to determine the cpu speed to ramp down
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Thanks for the info
SERGI.3210 said:
because froyo & gingerbread don´t works at the same form, and gingerbread need more resources & stability for to work correct... don´t forget that the kernel manages the hardware...
if u force it......... u know what can happen...
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You have mentioned about those "resources", is there any special measure that I need to do or what? I'm using the smartass profile on those kernels but still *sigh*
Anyway, I've observed on your sig that yours is overclocked @ 1.8ghz even though you're running GB, me envy
golokipok said:
have mentioned about those "resources", is there any special measure that I need to do or what? I'm using the smartass profile on those kernels but still *sigh*
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you only should do a good over/underclock & set the correct cpu governor for your daily use....
well, you know ho is @MDeeJaay? the developer of MDJ kernels and roms...
he explained smartass with this words:
SMARTASS GOVERNOR - is based on the concept of the interactive governor.
I have always agreed that in theory the way interactive works - by taking over the idle loop - is very attractive. I have never managed to tweak it so it would behave decently in real life. Smartass is a complete rewrite of the code plus more. I think its a success. Performance is on par with the "old" minmax and I think smartass is a bit more responsive. Battery life is hard to quantify precisely but it does spend much more time at the lower frequencies.
Smartass will also cap the max frequency when sleeping to 245Mhz (or if your min frequency is higher than 245 - why?! - it will cap it to your min frequency). Lets take for example the 998/245 kernel, it will sleep at 245.
golokipok said:
, I've observed on your sig that yours is overclocked @ 1.8ghz even though you're running GB, me envy
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no, no buddy... i only show the max speed nothing more... i set my cpu concretly like this;
CPU GOVERNOR:interactive
MAX SPEED:1113 MHZ
MIN SPEED:245 MHZ
PROFILE: screen off; 245 MHZ max.
245 MHZ min.
in adition i´m going to modify my syg LOL
haha..thanks again. I'm gonna try playing with the frequencies to see which will suit me
i hope someone can make a stable 1.8ghz kernel without the freeze
IT´S POSSIBLE but i don´t want to try it LOL
i love a lot my DHD
can i ask 1 help how to overclock wfs rom is cm7........i go to cpu settings there
1)available governors
2)min cpu frequency
3)max cpu frequency
4)set on boot
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in available governors
1)lagfree
2)lulzactive
3)lazy
4)braziliznwax
5)smartassv2
6)smartass
7)minmax
8)scary
9)smoothass
10)savagedzen
11)interactivex
12)conservati
13)ondemand
14)userspace
15)powersave
16)lionheart
17)performance
in this which 1 i have o chosse for fast my gameplay
and if make my max cpu to 806 it lags and contiusoly restarts....if i keep it to 787 its bit lagging .....min cpu frequency i hv kept is 200....which is the best frequency ??????
As governor smartass2 is often prefered.
Some phones do not work with maximum voltage and 804 MHz. You will have to reduce it till your phone is stable.
overclocking MAY damage your device. so be careful.
sorry for this old thread but, i have updated the last cm7 and now i can see more cpu states on setcpu such as 825,844 and 864..i overclocked for using these clocks but cpuspy says that these states are "unused"? Interestingly, setcpu says current state is 864 but not cpuspy? is that a bug?
Nice one, unearthing a thread from february ^^
Even if you select a high frequency, your phone might not be able to handle it.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."
*I got this complete set of STweaks config from Verizon Note 2 section and it works well with GN-N7100/N7105*
Alright, below this, I will include an almost full guide to setting up STweaks (for those who do not want to use the provided profiles)
The CPU section contains the frequencies and voltages that you want to run at.
200mHz is the minimum speed, 1800mHz is the maximum speed. You can change these to affect your overall performance or battery life. Mine is currently set to 200mHz minimum, 1800mHz maximum. I have seen no hit on battery life at all (might be miniscule.)
Now for the voltages.. Each and every person will have a different set of voltages, as every CPU will be a little bit different. You can manually set your frequency to a certain level, use a CPU stress testing app (stability test) and drop the voltage by SMALL increments until you start to lose stability (system crashes, app force closes, etc.) I usually go UP one voltage step over the borderline stable voltage. I will post my voltages, but take caution, as my voltages are set pretty low compared to stock values on the kernel.
1800mHz - set to 1200000 uV or 1.2 volts.
1704mHz - set to 1175000 uV or 1.175 volts.
1600mHz - set to 1112500 uV or 1.1125 volts.
1500mHz - set to 1100000 uV or 1.1 volts.
1400mHz - set to 1062500 uV or 1.0625 volts.
1300mHz - set to 1025000 uV or 1.025 volts.
1200mHz - set to 1000000 uV or 1 volt.
1100mHz - set to 975000 uV or 0.975 volts.
1000mHz - set to 962500 uV or 0.9625 volts.
900mHz - set to 937500 uV or 0.9375 volts.
800mHz - set to 912500 uV or 0.9125 volts.
700mHz - set to 887500 uV or 0.8875 volts.
600mHz - set to 862500 uV or 0.8625 volts.
500mHz - set to 837500 uV or 0.8375 volts.
400mHz - set to 812500 uV or 0.8125 volts.
300mHz - set to 800000 uV or 0.8 volts.
200mHz - set to 787500 uV or 0.7875 volts. * BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ONE, it can cause your device to lock up when the screen is off, and need a battery pull if the voltage is too low.
CPU Scaling Section - this controls how your device will turn up the speed when it needs to.
Governor - This contols how the device will respond overall (power management, sleep, etc.) I will keep mine set to the Pegasusq governor unless I am running a benchmark, in that case, use perfomance (which locks the device to full speed and all 4 cores online)
Sampling Rate - how often the device will 'think' about changing the CPU speed. I have mine set to 15000 uS (15 milliseconds) so it is more responsive.
Sampling Down Factor - This enables you to create 'lag' when the device is at full speed, so it doesn't jump down frequencies when you don't want it to. I leave mine at default 1 sample, because I see no need for this.
Up Threshold - When a core hits this % utilization at a set frequency, then it will scale up to the next frequency. I have mine set to 96%, so the device will scale up slower and more reliably (keep in mind it makes this decision every 15 milliseconds.)
Down Differential - When the device scales down, (drops frequency) it must get below this % utilization to scale down ( UP THRESHOLD minus DOWN DIFFERENTIAL ) I have mine set to 5%, so it drops frequency at or below 91% utilization.
Frequency for Responsiveness - This helps keep the device smooth at lower frequency, and when the frequency is below the set spot, it will use a DIFFERENT up threshold so the device scales up faster and doesn't lag. My frequency setting is 500mHz, and the up threshold for it is set at 70%.
Frequency for Fast Down - this sets the frequency at which the device can use aggressive down scaling, much like the opposite of frequency for responsiveness. I have mine set to 1400mHz, and the up threshold is set to 98%, so the device only scales up if it really needs to.
Frequency Step - This applies to the Fast Down setting, and whenever the device gets above 98% utilization, then it will increase the frequency by a SET percentage of the maximum frequency. So if you set 10%, and are have 1800mHz max, it will increase to the closest step that adds 180mHz. I have mine set to 6%, so it increases by 108mHz.
The up threshold and frequency step decrease confuse me for this, but I have the up threshold set to 2%, and the frequency step set to 3%.
I didn't touch the flexrate settings, as everything else should control this area.
CPU Hotplug - This section will control how the device turns its cores on and off.
CPU Up Rate - How many samples you want to take until a core decides to turn on. (Sampling rate times your setting) I have mine set to 12, so if the conditions are correct, it takes 180 milliseconds to turn a core on.
CPU Down Rate - How many samples you want to take until a core decides to turn off. (Same thing as CPU up rate) Mine is set to 10, so it takes 150 milliseconds to turn off a core if it isn't being used.
Core Upbring Count - How many cores you want to bring online when the conditions are right. Mine is set to 1, I'm sure more will increase performance and hurt battery life.
Configuration Overrides - These can set you device to always have a certain amount of cores online, I don't use them (leave at 0.)
Hotplug Conditionals - These perameters are set to control when the cores turn on and off. Below are MY values
Hotplug 1 Core to ONLINE (make 2 cores online) - 600mHz
Hotplug 2 Cores to OFFLINE (make 1 core online) - 500mHz
Hotplug 2 Cores to ONLINE (make 3 cores online) - 700mHz
Hotplug 3 Cores to OFFLINE (make 2 cores online) - 600mHz
Hotplug 3 Cores to ONLINE (make 4 cores online) - 800mHz
Hotplug 4 Cores to OFFLINE (make 3 cores online) - 700mHz
The rest of this section, I left at DEFAULT values, because I did not understand them.
GPU - This section controls the frequencies and voltages of your GPU.
Maximum Frequency - How high you want your GPU to clock to, mine is set to 733mHz.
Minimum Frequency - How low you want your GPU to clock to, mine is set to 108mHz.
Up Threshold - Like the CPU setting, the percentage of utilization you achieve before the GPU scales up. Mine is set to 90%.
Down Differential - When you want your GPU to scale down lower, (Up threshold minus down differential.) Mine is set to 10%, so when the GPU hits 80% utilization on a speed, it drops to a lower frequency.
Utilization Timeout - Basically is the sampling speed of the GPU (how fast you want it to make decisions to change speed.) Mine is set to 25 milliseconds.
Voltages - Test these the same way as the CPU, get a GPU stress testing app, and set a certain frequency. When you see artifacts or glitches on your screen, then the voltages are too low. Below are MY values.
54mHz - 825mV
108mHz - 875mV
160mHz - 950mV
266mHz - 975mV
350mHz - 1050mV
440mHz - 1100mV
533mHz - 1125mV
640mHz - 1150mV
733mHz - 1175mV
800mHz - 1200mV (This clock speed proved to be slightly unstable at 1175mV, though still usable)
I/O section - These values/settings control how your device writes/reads things from the SD card, or internal storage.
I left both of my storage schedulers at ROW but you can change them and play around. I believe that deadline is the best for overall performance, but can be unstable sometimes.
I/O Read Ahead - These control the cache file on the internal/external storage. I have my internal set to 1536kB, and external set to 2048kB, because those values gave me overall good write/read speeds.
Dynamic Fsync - From what I know, this helps keep the data from being corrupted by creating a buffer between data being written and the storage. Correct me if I'm wrong. I kept it enabled.
The entire audio section is pretty self explanatory, and I'm getting tired of typing all of this, so if you need help, PM me or comment.
Again, take this entire post with caution. What works with my device, may make yours unstable. I only provided mine to give you a baseline, my values offer good performance and battery life anyways. Feel free to correct any of my errors by PM or comment, and I will gladly change my post to accommodate for my errors
My phone is stable at 782.5mv on perseus but in deep sleep it just isn't. Not even on 813mv.
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And 2000 is max with Redpill.
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Thanks for the guide, will test your settings:highfive:
McLaren__F1 said:
Thanks for the guide, will test your settings:highfive:
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Do post your result here. It works great for me.
Hey guys,
i got a problem adjusting the cpu frequencies on my Galaxy S4 mini GT9195.
For example, i change it to 162mhz minimum and 1026mhz maximum and the smartassV2 govenor. Then that changes ramdomly to some weird frequencies automaticly and out of a sudden. Like 1458mhz minimum and maximum.
I use the cyanogenmod11 M7 rom and the f4ktion 1.5.0 Kernel (the cyanogen kernel does the same btw)
As App for adjusting i use the Kernel Tweaker, but even if i do it in the System settings its doing the same...
I did some undervolting, this stays as i set it.
I hope you guys can help me its annoying to check it every houre and see that it changed again and drains my battery
Sebastian
Devices using a modern qualcomm cpu, relies on two userspace daemons (mpdecision and thermald) to manage frequency and thermal throttling. So mpdecision takes care of the frequencies and cpu hot-plugging (when to engage additional cores or not), and thermald lowers the frequency if the temperature gets too high, in order to protect the cpu from overheating. This is not compatible with the frequency settings in CM or any third party app with similar functionality, as they will always override whatever you set there.
arco68 said:
Devices using a modern qualcomm cpu, relies on two userspace daemons (mpdecision and thermald) to manage frequency and thermal throttling. So mpdecision takes care of the frequencies and cpu hot-plugging (when to engage additional cores or not), and thermald lowers the frequency if the temperature gets too high, in order to protect the cpu from overheating. This is not compatible with the frequency settings in CM or any third party app with similar functionality, as they will always override whatever you set there.
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I see.. Thanks for the answer mate, so there's no way to save battery like this? It just seems sometimes that it's stuck at some frequencies...
Well, you could make a custom boot image that disables those daemons, but it could cause more harm than good.
Sebastianm1989 said:
Hey guys,
i got a problem adjusting the cpu frequencies on my Galaxy S4 mini GT9195.
For example, i change it to 162mhz minimum and 1026mhz maximum and the smartassV2 govenor. Then that changes ramdomly to some weird frequencies automaticly and out of a sudden. Like 1458mhz minimum and maximum.
I use the cyanogenmod11 M7 rom and the f4ktion 1.5.0 Kernel (the cyanogen kernel does the same btw)
As App for adjusting i use the Kernel Tweaker, but even if i do it in the System settings its doing the same...
I did some undervolting, this stays as i set it.
I hope you guys can help me its annoying to check it every houre and see that it changed again and drains my battery
Sebastian
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f4ktion kernel 1.5.0 is not designed for M7. For M7 use 1.4.5.
I'm right now with nightly 0703, kernel 1.5.0, mpdecision disable and MSM Hotplug enable (performance control). With this settings that bug disapeared. 162 mhz - 1728 mhz; smartassh3; ROW.
In M7, and 1.4.5 kernel, the only governor that works with 162 mhz and don't change to 1458 mhz is the Ondemand.