If I root. Will I lose access to OTA updates?
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Yes, you can see the updates but it is not upgradable.
Actually if you have just root you should be able to update via OTA as system status should be recorded as Normal
If you are on a custom kernel or recovery image (e.g. CWM) then system status will be reported as modified and you will not be able to accept any OTA's.
Lennyuk said:
Actually if you have just root you should be able to update via OTA as system status should be recorded as Normal
If you are on a custom kernel or recovery image (e.g. CWM) then system status will be reported as modified and you will not be able to accept any OTA's.
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If I flash the official rom pre-rooted, can i update via OTA?
Marchintosh said:
If I flash the official rom pre-rooted, can i update via OTA?
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So long as it doesn't change the kernel or recovery images then yes.
Lennyuk said:
So long as it doesn't change the kernel or recovery images then yes.
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With these ROM is ok?
Marchintosh said:
With these ROM is ok?
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they should be fine
Lennyuk said:
they should be fine
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Do you know other methods? Because only N7000 and i9100 has the root through original recovery mode.
I test it, OTA disabled without kernel
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As far as I know, there is no way to keep root if you get the OTA 4.3 update, right? I want to just get the OTA and not deal with the roms. Unlocked bootloader here...
According to Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, it doesn't work with the 4.3 update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241517&page=6
That's a true bummer.
Gbcue said:
As far as I know, there is no way to keep root if you get the OTA 4.3 update, right? I want to just get the OTA and not deal with the roms. Unlocked bootloader here...
According to Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, it doesn't work with the 4.3 update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241517&page=6
That's a true bummer.
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If your bootloader is unlocked then it's easy... you just flash SuperSU in recovery after the update. No ROMs to deal with. On a Nexus device with an unlocked bootloader root is never an issue.
phazerorg said:
If your bootloader is unlocked then it's easy... you just flash SuperSU in recovery after the update. No ROMs to deal with. On a Nexus device with an unlocked bootloader root is never an issue.
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Even with stock recovery this is possible? I don't want to re-root and lose data.
Gbcue said:
Even with stock recovery this is possible? I don't want to re-root and lose data.
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Not with stock recovery. But if you have an unlocked bootloader it's still no problem. You can boot to a custom recovery without even having to actually flash it if you want to keep stock recovery. So you just let the OTA install as normal then use fastboot to boot CWM or TWRP and flash SuperSU and you're done and rooted.
If your bootloader is unlocked, you might as well take advantage of it even if you want to remain mostly stock
Just keep in mind that SuperSU runs a daemon all the time can result in 70% cpu usage peaks. Don't blame 4.3 for it.
madd0g said:
Just keep in mind that SuperSU runs a daemon all the time can result in 70% cpu usage peaks. Don't blame 4.3 for it.
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Do we have any idea what triggers that? Thankfully I haven't had that experience and haven't had any extra CPU usage before or after flashing 4.3 yesterday.
phazerorg said:
Do we have any idea what triggers that? Thankfully I haven't had that experience and haven't had any extra CPU usage before or after flashing 4.3 yesterday.
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No, it seems fairly random so far. I have seen it once but can not reproduce it.
Chainfire is working on the issue though.
Questions in the Q&A, this is the general forum..
Read the rules sticky..
Beamed from my Maguro.
GldRush98 said:
No, it seems fairly random so far. I have seen it once but can not reproduce it.
Chainfire is working on the issue though.
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SuperSU 1.43 update
add3421 said:
So is there a like guide on how to keep root when doing a system update? I have STOCK 4.2 Rooted and it is saying I should download an update. I do have TWRP installed. Is there another stock already rooted 4.3 I can download? Any help would be great so I dont have to factory reset.
Thanks!
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Why even bother with this crap, flash the update, boot, flash custom recovery after and flash new SuperSU. You would be done before even typing this post.
I used the Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh to root my Galaxy Nexus on 4.3, and didn't lose any data...
All I did as usual was:-
1) Flash the update
2) Boot into TeamWin recovery (I keep the stock recovery installed)
3) Flash SuperSU 1.43
Simple, no issues.
If I have CMW Touch recovery can I install the OTA? I have received the notification but I don't know if I will be able to install it. Is there any way to revert back to Google's recovery just like installing a custom recovery? I mean not loosing data or having to so a factory reset.
Enviado desde mi Galaxy Nexus
str355 said:
All I did as usual was:-
1) Flash the update
2) Boot into TeamWin recovery (I keep the stock recovery installed)
3) Flash SuperSU 1.43
Simple, no issues.
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How do you boot into twrp without flashing it? I know "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" permanently overrides the built in recovery, but how would you boot into it just once?
AMKhatri said:
I used the Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh to root my Galaxy Nexus on 4.3, and didn't lose any data...
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Which version of the toolkit?
krackers said:
How do you boot into twrp without flashing it? I know "fastboot flash recovery twrp.img" permanently overrides the built in recovery, but how would you boot into it just once?
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This is the command you want "fastboot boot twrp.img"
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add3421 said:
ok cool, do you happen to have a link to the exact update i can download? for some reason when i click install it says restarting now.. but never does.
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I used the link in this thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377390
SuperSU.zip from here (v1.45 now) --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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Which version of the toolkit?
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1.6.4 after running update.
FWIW: Even though I've successfully used this kit a dozen times on four different devices, root was not working correctly (no su binary found) for me so I had to load the app via twrp which did correctly load from the toolkit after the kit installed 4.3.
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1.6.4 and it worked perfectly for me
I have root'ed and bump'ed my phone. If I unroot it through the supersu app can I just update the phone through OTA?
I don't care if twrp is gone, I just don't want to end up with a bootloop.
KingOfDope said:
I have root'ed and bump'ed my phone. If I unroot it through the supersu app can I just update the phone through OTA?
I don't care if twrp is gone, I just don't want to end up with a bootloop.
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No, you have to get rid of the recovery also.
So, to update phone via OTA you have to flash stock firmware.
DelBoy said:
No, you have to get rid of the recovery also.
So, to update phone via OTA you have to flash stock firmware.
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damn, thanks for telling me tho!
Hello everyone
I've been using recovery twrp
Regain Stock Recovery I want to do I receive the updates ota
Is there a way receipt ota updates with the survival of recovery twrp and rooted?
How can I do that? Without botloop
Please note that I do I delete a lot of asus applications that do not use them
And sorry about the bad language
Thank you very much
Same question anybody here to talk this topic ?
maahmd said:
Hello everyone
I've been using recovery twrp
Regain Stock Recovery I want to do I receive the updates ota
Is there a way receipt ota updates with the survival of recovery twrp and rooted?
How can I do that? Without botloop
Please note that I do I delete a lot of asus applications that do not use them
And sorry about the bad language
Thank you very much
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not possible to update with custom recovery.
if u want to update, u have to flash full firmware and corresponded recovery.img via adb. Then u can manually apply the ota update.
If you have TWRP, you can't take OTAs.
If you want to go back to stock recovery, just flash the stock recovery.img via fastboot for whichever build you want to go back to (you can pull it from a stock ROM zip that can be downloaded from ASUS).
If you flash an OTA while your ROM is rooted, you'll likely lose root, but it really depends on what they update. Some phones manage to retain root after an OTA, but it all depends on what's written during the update.
Basically the idea is:
If you use a rooted/custom ROM, you don't EVER take an OTA. If you're 100% stock, then grab the OTA and be the first one with the fresh update. If you're rooted/custom, wait for a dev to release their ROM update that's flashable through TWRP.
sounak1 said:
not possible to update with custom recovery.
if u want to update, u have to flash full firmware and corresponded recovery.img via adb. Then u can manually apply the ota update.
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OK
If I able to apply the stock recovery.img of rom official
But I remove Bloatware Can I apply an update manually ota??? After removing the root ? or i need to freez Bloatware Without removing ?
sounak1 said:
not possible to update with custom recovery.
if u want to update, u have to flash full firmware and corresponded recovery.img via adb. Then u can manually apply the ota update.
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Harfainx said:
If you have TWRP, you can't take OTAs.
If you want to go back to stock recovery, just flash the stock recovery.img via fastboot for whichever build you want to go back to (you can pull it from a stock ROM zip that can be downloaded from ASUS).
If you flash an OTA while your ROM is rooted, you'll likely lose root, but it really depends on what they update. Some phones manage to retain root after an OTA, but it all depends on what's written during the update.
Basically the idea is:
If you use a rooted/custom ROM, you don't EVER take an OTA. If you're 100% stock, then grab the OTA and be the first one with the fresh update. If you're rooted/custom, wait for a dev to release their ROM update that's flashable through TWRP.
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I've got it
But the question here is when using stock rom and remove asus basic applications that the system Can I ota updates at the root remove an application? Or I will face the problem of bootloop?
maahmd said:
I've got it
But the question here is when using stock rom and remove asus basic applications that the system Can I ota updates at the root remove an application? Or I will face the problem of bootloop?
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If you try to apply an OTA with a modified /system, it will fail. You can modify the OTA to remove the integrity check.
Harfainx said:
If you try to apply an OTA with a modified /system, it will fail. You can modify the OTA to remove the integrity check.
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how i remove the integrity check for ota ??!?!
and thnxxxxxxxx aloo0o0t
maahmd said:
how i remove the integrity check for ota ??!?!
and thnxxxxxxxx aloo0o0t
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/how-to-flash-ota-rom-twrp-t3209545
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/how-to-flash-ota-rom-twrp-t3209545
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thnxxxx u alo0o0o0o0o0o0o0o00oot
I meant download the Ota of the Android beta over my custom rom
pdolo5784 said:
I meant download the Ota of the Android beta over my custom rom
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I have and it was fine. Your custom recovery will be replaced when you take the OTA and of course you will lose root
Ok that's what I figured. Just didnt wanna brick it
pdolo5784 said:
I meant download the Ota of the Android beta over my custom rom
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No.
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bobby janow said:
No.
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So I should flash a stock rom then update from there?
I might have misspoke. You might be able to install the beta via the OTA no matter where you come from. It might wipe your entire system so I'd backup everything to the computer if you have stuff you need. Perhaps someone else can give detailed instructions because I did not do it that way. I flashed the factory images after a factory/reset in twrp. All except userdata.img. Just be careful since bootloader will be updated and afaik the only way to brick this device is with a bad bl flash.
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.
GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, sounds doable
ABotelho23 said:
Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.
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Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.
XDRdaniel said:
Yes, sounds doable
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Yeah. Well.. I'm gonna try this out myself. Thanks! :highfive:
GTRanushka said:
Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.
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Plan to keep a copy of OB18 around? If so, then yea absolutely it should work. Root will either modify your system or your kernel depending on the method, which both get overwritten if you flash stock.
Issue you'll probably end up having in the future though is that if you always use OB18, when it comes time to install OB20, you'll be downgrading without a wipe, which I don't think is a great idea.
GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.
Simone98RC said:
No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.
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Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device
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Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device
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But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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This would be weird because I always had to flash magisk after a ota update..
GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)
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In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)
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You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go
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But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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Why i try to unroot and do OTAs is the much less download size compared to FOTAs.
Renosh said:
You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go
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I tried it with the bootloader open and I did not think that something is not right that it has to download complete the rom.: