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[Q] OTA Update.

Hey , Can any one get me the stock recovery or stock rom for htc desire 816?
(Asian Version, Single sim) because I got the ota update but TWRP is installed

you can also unroot and relock. then get the ota update

seekfind said:
you can also unroot and relock. then get the ota update
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If I relocked and unrooted my phone I'll be able to get the OTA update?

omar_khaled12 said:
If I relocked and unrooted my phone I'll be able to get the OTA update?
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yes, but you also need to flash the stock recovery. after you get the OTA, you can unlock and install TWRP again.

seekfind said:
yes, but you also need to flash the stock recovery. after you get the OTA, you can unlock and install TWRP again.
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I know. that's why I'm asking for the stock recovery img.

omar_khaled12 said:
I know. that's why I'm asking for the stock recovery img.
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https://mega.co.nz/#!a4wBWL5Y!OijYt_zc6jT1HF69HXKVfaJaYgp25XN-Zyo1EdGpehQ

Problem solved, thanks Cyrano.

How can I restore Stock Recovery?

Hello everyone
I've been using recovery twrp
Regain Stock Recovery I want to do I receive the updates ota
Is there a way receipt ota updates with the survival of recovery twrp and rooted?
How can I do that? Without botloop
Please note that I do I delete a lot of asus applications that do not use them
And sorry about the bad language
Thank you very much

Same question anybody here to talk this topic ?

maahmd said:
Hello everyone
I've been using recovery twrp
Regain Stock Recovery I want to do I receive the updates ota
Is there a way receipt ota updates with the survival of recovery twrp and rooted?
How can I do that? Without botloop
Please note that I do I delete a lot of asus applications that do not use them
And sorry about the bad language
Thank you very much
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not possible to update with custom recovery.
if u want to update, u have to flash full firmware and corresponded recovery.img via adb. Then u can manually apply the ota update.

If you have TWRP, you can't take OTAs.
If you want to go back to stock recovery, just flash the stock recovery.img via fastboot for whichever build you want to go back to (you can pull it from a stock ROM zip that can be downloaded from ASUS).
If you flash an OTA while your ROM is rooted, you'll likely lose root, but it really depends on what they update. Some phones manage to retain root after an OTA, but it all depends on what's written during the update.
Basically the idea is:
If you use a rooted/custom ROM, you don't EVER take an OTA. If you're 100% stock, then grab the OTA and be the first one with the fresh update. If you're rooted/custom, wait for a dev to release their ROM update that's flashable through TWRP.

sounak1 said:
not possible to update with custom recovery.
if u want to update, u have to flash full firmware and corresponded recovery.img via adb. Then u can manually apply the ota update.
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OK
If I able to apply the stock recovery.img of rom official
But I remove Bloatware Can I apply an update manually ota??? After removing the root ? or i need to freez Bloatware Without removing ?

sounak1 said:
not possible to update with custom recovery.
if u want to update, u have to flash full firmware and corresponded recovery.img via adb. Then u can manually apply the ota update.
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Harfainx said:
If you have TWRP, you can't take OTAs.
If you want to go back to stock recovery, just flash the stock recovery.img via fastboot for whichever build you want to go back to (you can pull it from a stock ROM zip that can be downloaded from ASUS).
If you flash an OTA while your ROM is rooted, you'll likely lose root, but it really depends on what they update. Some phones manage to retain root after an OTA, but it all depends on what's written during the update.
Basically the idea is:
If you use a rooted/custom ROM, you don't EVER take an OTA. If you're 100% stock, then grab the OTA and be the first one with the fresh update. If you're rooted/custom, wait for a dev to release their ROM update that's flashable through TWRP.
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I've got it
But the question here is when using stock rom and remove asus basic applications that the system Can I ota updates at the root remove an application? Or I will face the problem of bootloop?

maahmd said:
I've got it
But the question here is when using stock rom and remove asus basic applications that the system Can I ota updates at the root remove an application? Or I will face the problem of bootloop?
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If you try to apply an OTA with a modified /system, it will fail. You can modify the OTA to remove the integrity check.

Harfainx said:
If you try to apply an OTA with a modified /system, it will fail. You can modify the OTA to remove the integrity check.
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how i remove the integrity check for ota ??!?!
and thnxxxxxxxx aloo0o0t

maahmd said:
how i remove the integrity check for ota ??!?!
and thnxxxxxxxx aloo0o0t
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/how-to-flash-ota-rom-twrp-t3209545

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/how-to-flash-ota-rom-twrp-t3209545
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thnxxxx u alo0o0o0o0o0o0o0o00oot

Flash stock over rooted to get OTA

I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.

Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.

GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, sounds doable

ABotelho23 said:
Technically you'll be updating your device by flashing the newest stock anyway. No need for OTAs. You can then re-root.
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Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.

XDRdaniel said:
Yes, sounds doable
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Yeah. Well.. I'm gonna try this out myself. Thanks! :highfive:

GTRanushka said:
Not what i meant. Let's say I'm on rooted OB18. But i want to update it to OB19. all i have is OB18 stock firmware. So, can i flash OB18 over rooted OB18 and then update it to OB19 (ota). Then re-root.
The reason I'm asking this is i have a very limited data internet connection. So i can save GBs if this is doable.
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Plan to keep a copy of OB18 around? If so, then yea absolutely it should work. Root will either modify your system or your kernel depending on the method, which both get overwritten if you flash stock.
Issue you'll probably end up having in the future though is that if you always use OB18, when it comes time to install OB20, you'll be downgrading without a wipe, which I don't think is a great idea.

GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.

Simone98RC said:
No you can't.
Because OTA will fail for "partition mismatching": the systemless root alters only but anyhow the /boot partition.
You must update with FOTA (Full OTAs), doesn't matter you're using stock or TWRP recovery.
The OxygenOS built-in updater should detects your system as modified and download only FOTAs.
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Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device

XDRdaniel said:
Let's say he has open beta 18, rooted and twrp installed, if he flashes ob18 again over it, this will get rid both of the root and twrp, resulting in an untouched system, therefore, ota after this will be possible. He can then flash back twrp and root the device
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But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.

Simone98RC said:
But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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This would be weird because I always had to flash magisk after a ota update..

GTRanushka said:
I wonder is it possible to flash stock unrooted OOS over rooted OOS in order to install small OTAs. After updates plan to root again. Does anyone know whether this is possible or not? And, any side effects could occur?
I search over internet and couldn't find any useful info about this.
Thanks in advance.
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In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)

ajnexus5 said:
In order to flash OTAS has to have stock rom but also recovery stock and bootloader blocked but not installed the OTAS otherwise it tells you that you have something modified and you have to download the complete rom. (That does not suit you)
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You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go

Simone98RC said:
But practically speaking, it's crazy to unroot system only for OTA.
It would be more reliable to download FOTAs on rooted system.
Then, if @GTRanushka is running Magisk (MagiskSU) as root method, it could be working even after firmware update.
Because of its systemless nature.
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Why i try to unroot and do OTAs is the much less download size compared to FOTAs.

Renosh said:
You don't need a locked bootloader for OTA just have to flash stock full ROM zip and stock recovery then you're good to go
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I tried it with the bootloader open and I did not think that something is not right that it has to download complete the rom.:

I just got Shield Experience 6.2

Shhhh... It's supposed to be a secret

JoeFCaputo113 said:
Shhhh... It's supposed to be a secret
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Was it rooted before upgrade? And did you root it after ?

Ok

Acidicus said:
Was it rooted before upgrade? And did you root it after ?
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If it was rooted OTA upgrade will fail.

sammarbella said:
If it was rooted OTA upgrade will fail.
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You can upgrade with root no problem. You have to reroot

dcarter33 said:
You can upgrade with root no problem. You have to reroot
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AFIK this is not a full firmware update.
It's a small incremental OTA update, it will fail to update a rooted firmware.

sammarbella said:
AFIK this is not a full firmware update.
It's a small incremental OTA update, it will fail to update a rooted firmware.
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Correct, it won't update. Although I have twrp installed and not stock recovery so I don't know if that causes more issues. I didn't pull the stock recovery before flashing either so can't test with that.

Andy4Shurr said:
Correct, it won't update. Although I have twrp installed and not stock recovery so I don't know if that causes more issues. I didn't pull the stock recovery before flashing either so can't test with that.[/QUOTE
Mine was rooted on 6.0 the 6.1 ota failed on twrp but the 6.2 upgraded fine via twrp lost root and twrp after
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So with the 6.2 update can it still be rooted? All the guides I have read are for 6.0 but nothing is said about 6.2

syst3merror said:
So with the 6.2 update can it still be rooted? All the guides I have read are for 6.0 but nothing is said about 6.2
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Yeah I just reflashed the magisk zip in twrp no problem.

Question on losing root after OTA

So op 5t released a new update, whenever i open the update screen it says root detected, i would lose my root privileges if I update the phone.
I wanted to know whether i would only lose my root, or entire thing of bootloader getting locked etc?
After updating will I be able to just boot into recovery and flash root file? Or whole process I would have to do again
Thanks

Updates reinstall the stock recovery. You have to flash twrp then root.

virusshah1997 said:
So op 5t released a new update, whenever i open the update screen it says root detected, i would lose my root privileges if I update the phone.
I wanted to know whether i would only lose my root, or entire thing of bootloader getting locked etc?
After updating will I be able to just boot into recovery and flash root file? Or whole process I would have to do again
Thanks
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When you install an OTA it will NOT relock your bootloader, it will reinstall the stock recovery since that is included in the OTA zip and is forced installed to be sure the update installs correctly.
You will lose the root temporarily until you flash a custom recovery again and your root of choice.

Misanful said:
When you install an OTA it will NOT relock your bootloader, it will reinstall the stock recovery since that is included in the OTA zip and is forced installed to be sure the update installs correctly.
You will lose the root temporarily until you flash a custom recovery again and your root of choice.
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I have to flash TWRP again?

virusshah1997 said:
I have to flash TWRP again?
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yes.

Misanful said:
yes.
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Wait, really? https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md#ota-installation-tips doesn't say anything about having to flash twrp again...
When an OTA is available, please go to Magisk Manager → Uninstall → Restore Images. Do not reboot immediately or you will have Magisk uninstalled. This will restore your boot (or dtbo if available) back to 100% untouched stock images in order to pass verifications. This step is required before doing any of the following steps written below!
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Or does "100% stock images" mean the stock bootloader = flash twrp again?
Just to clearify, updating my phone by an OTA does not lock the bootloader but I'd have to flash twrp and magisk again..?

Yakumichan said:
Wait, really? https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md#ota-installation-tips doesn't say anything about having to flash twrp again...
Or does "100% stock images" mean the stock bootloader = flash twrp again?
Just to clearify, updating my phone by an OTA does not lock the bootloader but I'd have to flash twrp and magisk again..?
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yee, but after you have used the OTA you will need to flash twrp again since the OTA flashes the stock recovery, or modify your boot image but that is a pain in the ass. :silly:

Misanful said:
yee, but after you have used the OTA you will need to flash twrp again since the OTA flashes the stock recovery, or modify your boot image but that is a pain in the ass. :silly:
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Means if I'd like to unroot my phone by doing nothing, this is probably the easiest way?