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[Q] Wait for AT&T Note 2, or buy Int'l N7100?

Now, normally I'm not a big advocate of buying carrier branded devices, mainly because of the carrier's ability to track the device (for billing purposes), their penchant for excluding features and pre-loading bloatware, slow updates, and custom firmware/hardware which inhibits community development. However, in the case of the AT&T Note 2, it's looking like a lot of those concerns may not apply to this device. In other words, for once, this is going to be a GSM/LTE device that's actually going to be using 99.9% of the same hardware found in the International LTE Note 2 (N7105), with only a different LTE radio in order to be compatible with AT&T LTE.
So this begs the question: Should I wait until the AT&T Note 2 is available, and then simply flash the international firmware onto it (but retain the AT&T modem.bin driver), effectively having a quasi-international LTE Note 2, or should I just forgo the whole LTE thing, and stick to getting the non-LTE N7100?
What do you guys think?

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Now, normally I'm not a big advocate of buying carrier branded devices, mainly because of the carrier's ability to track the device (for billing purposes), their penchant for excluding features and pre-loading bloatware, slow updates, and custom firmware/hardware which inhibits community development. However, in the case of the AT&T Note 2, it's looking like a lot of those concerns may not apply to this device. In other words, for once, this is going to be a GSM/LTE device that's actually going to be using 99.9% of the same hardware found in the International LTE Note 2 (N7105), with only a different LTE radio in order to be compatible with AT&T LTE.
So this begs the question: Should I wait until the AT&T Note 2 is available, and then simply flash the international firmware onto it (but retain the AT&T modem.bin driver), effectively having a quasi-international LTE Note 2, or should I just forgo the whole LTE thing, and stick to getting the non-LTE N7100?
What do you guys think?
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I`m not sure but I dont think you would want to flash the international firmware on it.... As for issues like N7100 is NOT gonna be the same model number as AT&T`s version

Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931317

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Now, normally I'm not a big advocate of buying carrier branded devices, mainly because of the carrier's ability to track the device (for billing purposes), their penchant for excluding features and pre-loading bloatware, slow updates, and custom firmware/hardware which inhibits community development. However, in the case of the AT&T Note 2, it's looking like a lot of those concerns may not apply to this device. In other words, for once, this is going to be a GSM/LTE device that's actually going to be using 99.9% of the same hardware found in the International LTE Note 2 (N7105), with only a different LTE radio in order to be compatible with AT&T LTE.
So this begs the question: Should I wait until the AT&T Note 2 is available, and then simply flash the international firmware onto it (but retain the AT&T modem.bin driver), effectively having a quasi-international LTE Note 2, or should I just forgo the whole LTE thing, and stick to getting the non-LTE N7100?
What do you guys think?
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I would at least wait to see all the features of the ATT model to make sure it will be acceptable and not changed too drastically before deciding. For me, LTE is too big of a feature not to have. The fact that I will be getting the quad core exynos is just icing on the cake! Can't wait!

americasteam said:
Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931317
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Didn't see that one! LOL! Mods can close this one then I guess. My bad.
As for flashing the international firmware, I suppose I should be more specific: Flash the international N7105 (LTE Unlocked Note 2) firmware onto the AT&T version, but keep the AT&T modem drivers (assuming that's the only major hardware difference).

Differences Between International and TMo Versions

Can anyone please tell me why i should wait for TMo (besides pricing) and not just buy the international Note 2? Are there dramatic differences in the hardware and software? Will the International not have the capability to run on LTE (when TMo actually upgrades)?

Im not anerican so i cabt help on much part except what i know
Here is what i know.
International Note is HSPA+ but NOT LTE.

[Q] Looking to purchase a Note II and had some questions

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I'm looking a purchasing a Samsung Note II that will be used on AT&T network. Since my upgrade is a year away, I have a Skyrocket that's only a year old, this phone will be a full price for me. I'm trying to find out some specific questions on the different Note II phone types, euro vs North America and what preloaded software differences are between them.
* the Note II that I purchase MUST have 4G LTE (AT&T FINALLY turned on 4G LTE in North East OKLA about 4 weeks ago! ..LOVEING IT).
* 10 minutes after I purchase the phone and verifying that everything is in working order it gets rooted.
I can purchase the phone from AT&T for full retail for 649. Best Buy said they would match that price (we'll see if they really do). When at Best Buy I asked about the preloaded software on the Note II (sense they do not have a working model on the floor) I was told in a blunt tone that it was an AT&T phone so it would work on AT&T's network.
Question---
1. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells have the same preloaded junk that comes on the one at the AT&T store?
2. Is the AT&T Note II phone that Best Buy sells been stripped of some of the Note II futures like the one at the AT&T store?
-- I read on an Amazon review the following http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2Q2WM4I4VO8J7
Be aware that the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note II is currently missing various standard functionality that Samsung is marketing and the other major carriers provide- missing functionality include:
~Multiview
~Group Shot Camera mode - with the ability to change faces
~Mobile data toggle
~Blocking mode toggle
~Screen Recorder
Since I am trying to get the most bang for my buck (a lot of bucks) which Note II phone that will work on AT&T that has 4G LTE should I be looking at?
(note- I suffered waiting on an ICS update from AT&T, so not having to depended on AT&T for my Android updates is a big plus)
Any advise or pointers is appreciated
Thanks

1.yes
2.yes
I will never buy a phone with a att stamp on it.
This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100

non carrier branded
So if I go with an unlocked phone- non carrier branded, which model number should I get that will work on AT&T and have LTE?
I saw this on another review-
Update: LTE! There are many people commenting about this. Apparently there's a version of the international Note 2 (not the N7100) that sports LTE, the model number is N7105 and it comes with "LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100" (Sources: GSM Arena, Engadget and XDA forums). If you have a N7100 the LTE radio is simply not there. However this is not guarantee that the N7105 will work with AT&T's or Tmo's LTE, it all depends if those frequencies are compilant with those carriers' respective LTE signals. As LTE network compatibility can be a deal breaker for many people within the US, I suggest you to research very well before buying it. If someone can squeeze any info out of AT&T or Tmo, please comment. To shed more light on this issue, you can Google the xda thread 1917383. (Geez, all this makes me feel kinda happy I don't have to worry about LTE compatibility yet).

The only way to get lte with a note on att is with their model. If you can live with out lte the get N7100.in San Diego I get around 8mb down and around 2 up.
This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100

If you get the N7105, it will have LTE, but in the wrong bands for AT&T.
GT-N7105 (International Note 2): 800/1800/2600
SGH-i317 (AT&T Note 2): 700/850/AWS/1900
See how those don't line up?
I'd just get the 7100. You'll get 21mbps with that on AT&T with HSPA+ and you won't have any carrier BS. HSPA+ is pretty dang quick.
Might want to check this site too http://www.dailysteals.com/ got a good deal on note 2's today.

I am running the 7100 on AT&T in Phoenix. The lack of LTE does not bug me too often as the HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
However, the OP stated that they would be rooting the phone. As such a clean bloat-free ROM for the AT&T phone would work on LTE. I have not been in the AT&T forums, but I assume there are bloat-free ROMs with all the missing features turned on.
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CrozB said:
I am running the 7100 on AT&T in Phoenix. The lack of LTE does not bug me too often as the HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
However, the OP stated that they would be rooting the phone. As such a clean bloat-free ROM for the AT&T phone would work on LTE. I have not been in the AT&T forums, but I assume there are bloat-free ROMs with all the missing features turned on.
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Yes I plan on rooting the phone and installing a clean bloat free ROM. (rant) I just wanted to buy a phone with all the futures the EU version has and without the silly branding/bloat that carriers do, all they do is muck up the phone.

Best Galaxy Note 2 version to use on AT&T LTE Network?

Hey folks,
I was originally considering purchasing the Note 3, as currently T-Mobile's Note 3 is the best to use on AT&T's LTE network since it doesn't come with a locked bootloader. However, I figured I'd purchase the less expensive Note 2 since I can't justify the $700+ price yet.
Which Samsung Note 2 version is not only the best to use on AT&T's LTE network but comes with the least bloatware? Is is the AT&T version, International version, or one of the Canadian versions? Will Android updates through the AT&T version come out as soon as it's available, or will it be anything like the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket where updates were released 3254320512 years later?
I'd also like to be able to use international sim cards when traveling abroad.
Much appreciated, thanks.

keennay said:
Hey folks,
I was originally considering purchasing the Note 3, as currently T-Mobile's Note 3 is the best to use on AT&T's LTE network since it doesn't come with a locked bootloader. However, I figured I'd purchase the less expensive Note 2 since I can't justify the $700+ price yet.
Which Samsung Note 2 version is not only the best to use on AT&T's LTE network but comes with the least bloatware? Is is the AT&T version, International version, or one of the Canadian versions? Will Android updates through the AT&T version come out as soon as it's available, or will it be anything like the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket where updates were released 3254320512 years later?
I'd also like to be able to use international sim cards when traveling abroad.
Much appreciated, thanks.
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I cant talk too much on the first question, although I would guess that the ATT version will be the best, but if any of the others can operate on the same LTE bands they should work as well, although I would be careful with modem versions/etc,
As for the updates, ATT is usually slow, but then again most carriers are. Only way to get the fastest updates is to get an unbranded international Note 2

I got an AT&T Note II and had little difficulty rooting it and installing CleanROM, which got rid of a lot of the bloatware. More recently I went to CyanogenMod-based ROM, and now there's no Samsung software at all to worry about. That also takes care of the update issue since I don't have to wait for the carrier to update.

Yep, the best version will be the ATT version. As far as the updates go, it'll be getting the 4.3 update around mid-late November per all the leaks. Otherwise you can root it and flash a ROM that has no bloatware.
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[Q] Changing from AT&T Note II to T-Mobile Note II

I have a quick question for you guys, what is if there is any difference between the T-Mo and the AT&T variants of the Note II? I currently own an unlocked AT&T version of it, but soon I will also own the T-Mobile version of it. I know T-Mobile's does not have KitKat and is stuck back at Jellybean 4.3. After that, is all I can think of a difference. I currently do have T-Mobile. Will I be making a huge mistake by going to that variant?

I would think the frequency bands available would be different. You could check that easily enough by looking at the specifications.

DJ Scooby Doo said:
I have a quick question for you guys, what is if there is any difference between the T-Mo and the AT&T variants of the Note II? I currently own an unlocked AT&T version of it, but soon I will also own the T-Mobile version of it. I know T-Mobile's does not have KitKat and is stuck back at Jellybean 4.3. After that, is all I can think of a difference. I currently do have T-Mobile. Will I be making a huge mistake by going to that variant?
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The thing that pops into my head first would be wifi calling.. that would be the only advantage. Because you can use almost any rom here with different kernels to make your t-mo work for 4.4. IMHO

My wife's AT&T Note 2 on MetroPCS, I was able to tether easily. It took me a bit to get my Tmo Note 2 to get it to tether. My Tmo N2 has faster LTE, both on MetroPCS, both 4.3.

I believe the biggest difference would be the HSPA 1700 support since ATT variant does not support such band. if you are in a 1900 reform then you would get HSPA at 21Mbps. LTE should be the same on both devices. Other than the radio difference the software maybe slightly difference with wifi calling being the biggest feature.

I have the att version. The frequencies for t-mobile are there but not activated. If you flash a modem you can then unlock the aws band just search YouTube for unlocking t-mobile on i317. I had to downgrade to android 4.1 To perform the Change and then if I change modem I have to perform unlock again which means back to 4.1 until I find a method in 4.4. And then reflash my current rom. My upload speeds are slower than my wife's MetroPCS lte phone but download is faster. Websurfing is about same. Lot more support for att rom. Some will work on i317M. But more research. Different bloatware. And WiFi calling is only in rom ported from t-mobile which are not many. WiFi calling is great if in area were you may not have great coverage by t-mobile. I have also considered getting t-mobile variety but have not seen a great enough advantage. If you want lollipop when first out probably only reason as a TouchWiz lollipop rom will probably be some time away for i317M.