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help on a few SMS annoyances please

hello there, I have some stuff I'd like to change regarding SMS. I've got a P3300 with official WM6.
I'd prefer to change this through some options (tho I didn't find) or registry edit. If possible to do what I need without installing more (battery draining) applications, would be best, but if there is no other choice, I'll take a look at whatever application u suggest.
- when I am underground and I send an SMS, it tells me it can't be send, and the message goes into the temp. folder (dunno english name of this folder) and I have to resend it manually. I'd like it to resend automatically as soon as I have signal again. That's what my previous nokia phones did.
- when I send a SMS successfully, I get a popup and "ding" telling me it was send. I don't want this, I only want to know if there was an error. I send loads of messages, and this popup is rather annoying.
- since I have WM6, when i open messages through the today plugin, it always asks me if outlook, sms or mms... with wm5 it always went into the last one I used. I'd like this functionality back, is it possible?
is there any FAQ of different kind of tweaks that can be done with a P3300 wm6 just through options or registry? if yes, could you please link it, I'd like to take a look at that.
thx for everything

zandadoum said:
- when I am underground and I send an SMS, it tells me it can't be send, and the message goes into the temp. folder (dunno english name of this folder) and I have to resend it manually. I'd like it to resend automatically as soon as I have signal again. That's what my previous nokia phones did.
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sorry, no idea on this.
zandadoum said:
- when I send a SMS successfully, I get a popup and "ding" telling me it was send. I don't want this, I only want to know if there was an error. I send loads of messages, and this popup is rather annoying.
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There is a tweak for this. Search and you will find it or else, i will try to find it 4 you this weekend.
zandadoum said:
- since I have WM6, when i open messages through the today plugin, it always asks me if outlook, sms or mms... with wm5 it always went into the last one I used. I'd like this functionality back, is it possible?
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Yes, this question has been answered be4 too. Search and you will find it or else, i will try to find it 4 you this weekend. I thought its possible...

hopefully you can find that info and give me a hand. i tried the forum search function but as i dont know exactly what i am looking for, my search is too generic and i get loads of results (most about tweaked roms) that don't help me at all.
EDIT: found answer to 3) by myself. SOLUTION: open messages, go into menu->tools->options and there you can setup the different types of message accounts you have. at the bottom is an option to enable or disable the account selector. i just turned that off.

For the SMS sent notification:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Inbox/Settings/SMSNoSentMsg and set it to "1".

With the mentioned registry edit, you are not notified if the message fails to send. It just tries it, and puts it in sent items. If it fails it will not be re-send again by WM6.
you can fix the SMS/OUTLOOK/MMS thing in Options in your Messaging program.

ok, thx to that registry edit i get the sms sent popup no more. but i don't get any popup warning if it fails.
i've heard something about a different regedit key, with different numbers like
0 = no warn
1 = all warns
2 = only bla bla bla warn
3 = only ble ble ble warn
etc.
any1 got an idea about this?
also, any way to have the phone re-send failed sms automaticaly when i have signal again?
i am at a point that i would also try some SOFTWARE if needed, tho i prefer if it can be done just by registry.

Not familiar with those options. But why don't you give it a try and report back here.
GL

[Q] Anyway to check text message history of where they are going?

Hi, i think i have been hacked by using a pirate app lmao...I've gotten random text messages to buy stuff and on my online sprint account, i have used an international text. I want to see my text message history of where my texts are going and how do i check if something else might have happened to my phone??

locoboi187 said:
Hi, i think i have been hacked by using a pirate app lmao...I've gotten random text messages to buy stuff and on my online sprint account, i have used an international text. I want to see my text message history of where my texts are going and how do i check if something else might have happened to my phone??
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As far as on the phone, I don't think you can. If you want to see where your texts have been doing/sent to whom, call up sprint, and request a sopena [can't spell the word for my life], but its a log of your texts, and they'll mail it to you.

teh roxxorz said:
As far as on the phone, I don't think you can. If you want to see where your texts have been doing/sent to whom, call up sprint, and request a sopena [can't spell the word for my life], but its a log of your texts, and they'll mail it to you.
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I remember a long time ago i read something about retrieving messages on rooted evos?

locoboi187 said:
I remember a long time ago i read something about retrieving messages on rooted evos?
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It may have been from like a backup app.
As far as I know, I don't know a way to double back to see where it was actually sent to.
You can install handcent, open the app, click menu, then try delivery report; it shows the message, and if you tap it, it'll show you the time and to the person/number.

teh roxxorz said:
It may have been from like a backup app.
As far as I know, I don't know a way to double back to see where it was actually sent to.
You can install handcent, open the app, click menu, then try delivery report; it shows the message, and if you tap it, it'll show you the time and to the person/number.
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Thanks for the help!

[Q] Reading TXT's

Maybe I am doing something wrong...but I can't seem to figure out how to read txt's I get on the watch.
If I get a email I pull up and can read part or all of the email (depending on length) on the watch
But when I get a txt all I can do is see who sent it and have the option to open on the phone. I cant read the txt on the watch (other than the little infor I indicated)
Is there a setting I need to change?
Thanks

unpilot said:
Maybe I am doing something wrong...but I can't seem to figure out how to read txt's I get on the watch.
If I get a email I pull up and can read part or all of the email (depending on length) on the watch
But when I get a txt all I can do is see who sent it and have the option to open on the phone. I cant read the txt on the watch (other than the little infor I indicated)
Is there a setting I need to change?
Thanks
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What program do you use for messaging on your phone? I use the new messenger app and it works fine for me.

lightofhonor said:
What program do you use for messaging on your phone? I use the new messenger app and it works fine for me.
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I have a LG G3 phone I just use the standard msg app that came with the phone.

What sms app is everyone using?

My usual app doesn't allow voice replies to text messages so trying to find a new one. Textra seems very nice but I'm not getting the vibrate, pop up on my watch. I get the notification if i scroll down to it but nothing pops up. Any suggestions?

tu3218 said:
My usual app doesn't allow voice replies to text messages so trying to find a new one. Textra seems very nice but I'm not getting the vibrate, pop up on my watch. I get the notification if i scroll down to it but nothing pops up. Any suggestions?
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hangouts:good:

Thanks for the info. Yeah hangouts works well, but it lacks a lot of features. I found Textra. Works great, looks great, has all the usual features I love like replying through the status bar, but most of all it allows voice replying with my watch!

I tried out Textra and liked everything about it except how it pulled my favorites from my contact list and put them in the quick contacts. I couldn't find a way to remove some of the quick contacts without removing a Favorite from my contacts... so that extra space taken up at the top of the screen...plus my keyboard popping up at the bottom made the view window for typing a message very small and hard to use.
I found chompSMS (which is put out by the same developer as Textra), and it's exactly what I was looking for. It allows the option to reply on the Android Wear device with a Reply button (like Textra)... and it's running great with no problems. If you haven't settled on a SMS replacement app yet, you might want to check out chompSMS.

Been using Google Messenger to reply for voice texts, and Wear Messenger to reply via text on the watch. You need to have Minuum installed though, works pretty well for replying with a keyboard.

Beeko said:
Been using Google Messenger to reply for voice texts, and Wear Messenger to reply via text on the watch. You need to have Minuum installed though, works pretty well for replying with a keyboard.
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I actually received an email from Minuum about their version 3.0. Although I see it can only be installed via adb which I'm not to knowledgeable about. But how does it work? Are there only certain apps that allow you to respond to texts? How do you pull up the keyboard cause usually when you hit reply, it just does voice input.
Also to add, I found an app called Coffee. Allows you to respond to sms with voice, and a bunch of premade texts and you can also add to it. Also it appears to just pull the notification from your phone so even if your app doesn't support android wear, you can still reply via voice with this app. Will be testing more though.

tu3218 said:
I actually received an email from Minuum about their version 3.0. Although I see it can only be installed via adb which I'm not to knowledgeable about. But how does it work? Are there only certain apps that allow you to respond to texts? How do you pull up the keyboard cause usually when you hit reply, it just does voice input.
Also to add, I found an app called Coffee. Allows you to respond to sms with voice, and a bunch of premade texts and you can also add to it. Also it appears to just pull the notification from your phone so even if your app doesn't support android wear, you can still reply via voice with this app. Will be testing more though.
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Yea, you have to install through adb and set it as default through adb. I can find you the steps if you'd like. Also, the only text messenger app that allows keyboard reply is Wear Messenger. But I'm going to try to take apart google messenger apk and try to see what I can do to the wear side.
EDIT: For those that aren't very good with adb, here's the steps to install minuum: http://support.minuum.com/knowledgebase/articles/394385-minuum-on-android-wear

I'm also using Coffee, but I keep getting the "Let's get started" card where it says to flick your wrist to send a message. This functionality doesn't work for me, even though the option is ticked on the phone app. No idea why that won't work, and haven't had a reply from the developer yet.

AlanJC said:
I'm also using Coffee, but I keep getting the "Let's get started" card where it says to flick your wrist to send a message. This functionality doesn't work for me, even though the option is ticked on the phone app. No idea why that won't work, and haven't had a reply from the developer yet.
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I actually emailed the Dev about constantly getting that notification. No reply yet.
Other than that, the app is working great. I did untick that feature as I don't need it but I think when I first downloaded the app, it didn't work for me either.
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The problem I have is that I need to use TMO WiFi calling at my house. I have zero signal there. And unless I'm using the stock app for messaging I can't receive or send MMS or group messages. So none of the 3rd party apps for SMS work for me. The irritating thing is that the manual for the watch says it has the reply option. (it wont let me post the link here)
So unless there is a work around for 3rd party SMS I'm SOL. So far Sony has not responded to my request for a fix.

mddcbbb said:
The problem I have is that I need to use TMO WiFi calling at my house. I have zero signal there. And unless I'm using the stock app for messaging I can't receive or send MMS or group messages. So none of the 3rd party apps for SMS work for me. The irritating thing is that the manual for the watch says it has the reply option. (it wont let me post the link here)
So unless there is a work around for 3rd party SMS I'm SOL. So far Sony has not responded to my request for a fix.
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Try coffee SMS out. It gets access to your notifications so you can respond with voice even if your messaging app doesn't support wear. Only thing is I had to uninstall coffee because it causer battery drain.
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tu3218 said:
Try coffee SMS out. It gets access to your notifications so you can respond with voice even if your messaging app doesn't support wear. Only thing is I had to uninstall coffee because it causer battery drain.
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You sir are a gentleman and a scholar! This works PERFECTLY! I don't get notified of MMS messages but that's okay. They still show up on my phone. If this was imgur I'd give you +1 fake internet points.

SMS Notifications

What are folk using to read or reply to SMS messages on their units?
I did some searching on the old thread and TabletTalk looks exactly what I'm looking for but it unexpectedly crashes whenever I open it on my HU and I'm not sure if there are any logs I can check to see why? Anyone else having that issue?
I also seen that another option is Tasker with a few plugins but does that use 3G to sync the messages? Ideally I want something that does it all over Bluetooth. I'm not really fussed about WhatsApp messages or that, just SMS.
Cheers

I was using mightytext (needed to get apk from my tablet as hu is not supported in google play) and it used mobile data. Added bonus of being able to reply...however can't do so when driving, which negates it a bit
I'm in the middle of setting up tasker/autoremote/autovoice. The plan is for message to be received, sent to hu, seneder read out, yes/no option to read message, yes reads message, no ignores message (possibly third input for reminder in x minutes). Gives a bit more privacy when others are in the car
Autoremote works over any data connection; mobile, wifi, Bluetooth. It's easy enough to transfer messages (sender, body) using autoremote and getting it to appear as a notification on hu (instead of my more complex goal)
Also pushbullet works fine (but might be mobile data only)

Brendo said:
I was using mightytext (needed to get apk from my tablet as hu is not supported in google play) and it used mobile data. Added bonus of being able to reply...however can't do so when driving, which negates it a bit
I'm in the middle of setting up tasker/autoremote/autovoice. The plan is for message to be received, sent to hu, seneder read out, yes/no option to read message, yes reads message, no ignores message (possibly third input for reminder in x minutes). Gives a bit more privacy when others are in the car
Autoremote works over any data connection; mobile, wifi, Bluetooth. It's easy enough to transfer messages (sender, body) using autoremote and getting it to appear as a notification on hu (instead of my more complex goal)
Also pushbullet works fine (but might be mobile data only)
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Thanks mate
I seen mightytext as well actually, didn't like the fact that it was over data as well though and assuming your texts will be stored on a server.
Ahh I didn't realise Autoremote worked over Bluetooh, the tasker/autoremote/autovoice sounds like a great option thanks :good:

dc5daft said:
Ahh I didn't realise Autoremote worked over Bluetooh, the tasker/autoremote/autovoice sounds like a great option thanks :good:
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I think there is a fallback order to determine which protocol to use (haven't had time to use in a while). I like that it'll use Bluetooth when no data as when I have my wifi obd device connected, it takes over wifi and turns data off

I've been using mysms on my PC and phone for the last few years, an alternative to mightytext. Mysms has annoyed me though so I think I'll be checking out mightytext even though I have a paid sub to mysms. It sometimes leaves a message that the phone might have not had the reception to send in a limbo zone, where you can't resend it for 15-30 minutes until it officially fails. Plus it's freaked me out with display problems sometimes, showing me I sent messages to people not that I intended.

Thanks for all the replies
I had a quick look at tasker and automate but had some trouble getting the URL on the start page and it does seem like a bit of hassle to set up.
I've been happy with the stock rom but I might just flash Malaysk's rom and see if tablet talk works on that.

Sorry to bump an old thread, just thought I'd mention I now have texts from my phone displaying on my HU and I can reply from the HU.
I'm using Tasker, AutoRemote and AutoNotification. It took me a while to get my head around working them, if anyone wants me to export my tasks etc so they can text from their head unit let me know and I'll do so
From my searching before I posted I remembered a few people had asked about it so just thought i'd mention in case anyone wants it. I only have mine set up for SMS which talks to the HU through Bluetooth but I'd imagine its pretty much the same for WhatsApp etc.

dc5daft said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, just thought I'd mention I now have texts from my phone displaying on my HU and I can reply from the HU.
I'm using Tasker, AutoRemote and AutoNotification. It took me a while to get my head around working them, if anyone wants me to export my tasks etc so they can text from their head unit let me know and I'll do so
From my searching before I posted I remembered a few people had asked about it so just thought i'd mention in case anyone wants it. I only have mine set up for SMS which talks to the HU through Bluetooth but I'd imagine its pretty much the same for WhatsApp etc.
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Sure, would be interested in seeing how you've done it

Ditto. Avid Tasker user so would lurve to see your tasks ?
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I'm at work just now (working hard clearly ) so can only upload my phone profiles/tasks, I'll upload the HU ones later.
I had been testing on my tablet which is why the recipient may be different but I suppose if you wanted to use it you would need to change it anyway. Any questions or suggestions fire away, its been a while since Ive done any programming type of stuff so if there are more efficient ways of doing things I'd be glad to know
For folk with little experience with Tasker, AutoRemote and AutoNotification, here's how it works:
1) On the phone: If I receive a text and my bluetooth is on, set a variable to 1.
2) On the Phone: When the variable equals 1, start the AutoRemote Bluetooth service and send the SMS details to the HU then set the variable back to 0. (Messages are sent one at a time so it sends the recipient's name, then number, time received and text body separate)
3) On the HU: When one message is received, add 1 to a variable to count each message received.
4) On the HU: When all messages are received (the counter equals 4) use the AutoNotification to show a new notification that you have received a text.
6) On the HU: On the notification there is a reply button and a discard button. Discard button runs a task to just close the notification and reset all variables. Reply button runs a task that closes the notification and then opens a tasker scene (a sort of window)
7) On the HU: The scene shows the name and number the SMS is from and a text box to type a reply. Buttons on the scene are an exit button, send button, car button and call button. Exit obviously closes the scene and then clears all variables. Send button will send the details back to my phone, close the scene and clear the variables. The car button I have set to send a template message "I'm driving just now sorry, I'll call you later" then it clears variables and closes scene. I want the call button to call the contact through the built-in bluetooth app on the HU, although I'm still working on this to see if its possible. This is one of the main reasons I went to the hassle of doing this myself rather than use an app since most apps deal with calls too and use your phone mic which I didn't like since my phone will most likely be in my pocket and I have my mic all wired up in my car.
8) On the Phone: The phone waits for the number and text message to be received. I used separate tasks and a counter like before to make sure both parts are received.
9) On the Phone: When the counter equals 2 (both the number and message have been received) then it sends the SMS from the phone, clears all variables and stops the AutoRemote Bluetooth service since I dont want this running all the time.
Hopefully it makes sense but like I said, happy to help other people get it set up I'll get the HU XML's uploaded tonight when I'm home and get some screenshots as well. Its still at very early stages so I may make some tweaks, I've actually yet to test it in my HU but its all working on my tablet so I dont see an issue. I'll get a better feel for how functional it is as well once Ive imported it into my car but I suppose its down to personal preference and people can add or change what they want.
Cheers guys

Here are the HU exported XMLs and a few screenshots taken from my tablet from texts I was sending to myself.
Its at early stages so go easy on me

Nice approach. In autoremote you can send multiple parameters by using =:= between them like " SMSSendTo=:=number=:=body=:=time"
And then access them by %arcomm1 %arcomm2...
That way you can do it a bit more efficient.
I have edited your profiles and tasks. I will upload them later today so you can se how it can be done.

I used Tablet Talk years ago so I had paid for it already. Unfortunately, I was unable to get the HU to connect with my phone with bluetooth or wifi. I just purchased Tasker for the first time and the amount of options is incredible not to mention the plugins. I just don't have the time to learn the ins and outs of it all at this time. I look forward to seeing how this develops. Thanks for sharing your work!

Thanks guys
Yeh I had trouble getting tablet talk working on mine too which is why I decided to do something myself. Glad I did though sice tasker is such a great app, now using it for some other stuff too
By the way, I got a few notifications for messages on my tablet so someone must have used the project and forgot to change the receiptient device. That might be why it's not working you can change it by opening the scenes then editing the buttons that send messages. In the "tap" tab I think it is, click on the tasks that send the messages and make sure you select your device from there. You will have to have added it already though in AutoRemote by clicking on the devices tab, then add and use the URL from the device you are adding. Any other questions fire away, I'm still quite new to tasker though but I'll try my best.

Here are the example on how you can do it a bit more efficiant.
Dont forget to change the receiptient device in the "Send_Tther_Device" task on phone and in "SMS_Reply" scene on hu.

I've been trying out the tasker files you listed nanab. It definitely works but only once in a while. Autoremote seems extremely delayed or never sends the message. I tried forcing the connection between wifi/bt but it seems to not make a difference. Long texts from the HU back to the phone seem to anger it as well. Messages and notification reach the HU well but from HU to phone has issues. I will usually be able to send one and then it stops working. Any suggestions or tweaks I can make?
This has been helping me learn some tasker stuff so thanks again.

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dc5daft said:
I'm at work just now (working hard clearly ) so can only upload my phone profiles/tasks, I'll upload the HU ones later.
I had been testing on my tablet which is why the recipient may be different but I suppose if you wanted to use it you would need to change it anyway. Any questions or suggestions fire away, its been a while since Ive done any programming type of stuff so if there are more efficient ways of doing things I'd be glad to know
For folk with little experience with Tasker, AutoRemote and AutoNotification, here's how it works:
1) On the phone: If I receive a text and my bluetooth is on, set a variable to 1.
2) On the Phone: When the variable equals 1, start the AutoRemote Bluetooth service and send the SMS details to the HU then set the variable back to 0. (Messages are sent one at a time so it sends the recipient's name, then number, time received and text body separate)
3) On the HU: When one message is received, add 1 to a variable to count each message received.
4) On the HU: When all messages are received (the counter equals 4) use the AutoNotification to show a new notification that you have received a text.
6) On the HU: On the notification there is a reply button and a discard button. Discard button runs a task to just close the notification and reset all variables. Reply button runs a task that closes the notification and then opens a tasker scene (a sort of window)
7) On the HU: The scene shows the name and number the SMS is from and a text box to type a reply. Buttons on the scene are an exit button, send button, car button and call button. Exit obviously closes the scene and then clears all variables. Send button will send the details back to my phone, close the scene and clear the variables. The car button I have set to send a template message "I'm driving just now sorry, I'll call you later" then it clears variables and closes scene. I want the call button to call the contact through the built-in bluetooth app on the HU, although I'm still working on this to see if its possible. This is one of the main reasons I went to the hassle of doing this myself rather than use an app since most apps deal with calls too and use your phone mic which I didn't like since my phone will most likely be in my pocket and I have my mic all wired up in my car.
8) On the Phone: The phone waits for the number and text message to be received. I used separate tasks and a counter like before to make sure both parts are received.
9) On the Phone: When the counter equals 2 (both the number and message have been received) then it sends the SMS from the phone, clears all variables and stops the AutoRemote Bluetooth service since I dont want this running all the time.
Hopefully it makes sense but like I said, happy to help other people get it set up I'll get the HU XML's uploaded tonight when I'm home and get some screenshots as well. Its still at very early stages so I may make some tweaks, I've actually yet to test it in my HU but its all working on my tablet so I dont see an issue. I'll get a better feel for how functional it is as well once Ive imported it into my car but I suppose its down to personal preference and people can add or change what they want.
Cheers guys
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can you make a tutorial step by step thank you

At the first try it works for me but after restarting the engine i don't get any message to the car unit anymore
My Phone tolds me that the message was successfully send to the Car Unit but it doesn't get them.
After a lot of reconnecting in Autoremote it works again but only until the car unit was restarted.
Has anybody found out another solution?

dc5daft said:
Here are the HU exported XMLs and a few screenshots taken from my tablet from texts I was sending to myself.
Its at early stages so go easy on me
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Wonder if this still works?

pushbullet ! works well !