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new guy

hey guys im new on the s3 i came from the g-note i was wondering if the s3 is able to oc-uv at this point....also i am a huge benchmark person what does the s3 score? i do know on my note oc'd i hit 7600 on antutu and 64 on quadrant if there is anyone here that may be able to point me to the thread or link how i can root my new phone that would be great!! i know or think i know its odin but not sure which version... also i used super user 3.07 on the note with cwm 5.8.8.4 i think.... are those two the same ones i use for this phone thx again for the help
EDIT...i meant to add that i pre ordered it lol just to clear that up lol

Everything you need is in the development forum.

Benchmarks don't mean shhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii......
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Check out the stickies in the development forum for rooting/flashing etc.
For oc/UV check out the original dev forum.
As for benchmarks... Yeah.
The random number generator known as quadrant will spit out anything from 5,000's to 9,000's for me.
The random number generator known as antutu spits out anything from 4,000's to 8,000's.
Have fun!
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Yeah, I'm new to these boards too. I've been looking around and it seems some of these developers require a reach-a-round in order to post in their thread based on responses I've seen by them. Great start from a noob poster, I know.

jblazin52 said:
Yeah, I'm new to these boards too. I've been looking around and it seems some of these developers require a reach-a-round in order to post in their thread based on responses I've seen by them. Great start from a noob poster, I know.
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Same question over and over and over is really redundant and 99% of the time nobody uses the search function. I don't blame them

Yeah around are nice ...But never required. I have to say that I have not seen that in the threads I have frequented...although I have started clear of the "original development" threads. The"unoriginal" devs seem pretty friendly and are quick to answer questions in a respectful manner.
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Reach arounds are nice ...But never required. I have to say that I have not seen that in the threads I have frequented...although I have steered clear of the "original development" threads after reading a few replies in there. The"unoriginal" devs seem pretty friendly and are quick to answer questions in a respectful manner.
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justin860 said:
Same question over and over and over is really redundant and 99% of the time nobody uses the search function. I don't blame them
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I would understand that, but isn't this almost like an athlete or movie star and a fan asking for autographs? I mean, its your rom YOU decided to make public and of course there is going be stupid posters around, but if it was me, I'd just be happy someone was downloading my sh!t.
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Reach arounds are nice ...But never required. I have to say that I have not seen that in the threads I have frequented...although I have steered clear of the "original development" threads after reading a few replies in there. The"unoriginal" devs seem pretty friendly and are quick to answer questions in a respectful manner.
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Honestly, that was the only area I've seen that as well so far.
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defnow said:
Benchmarks don't mean shhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii......
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NO ONE SAID THEY DID!!! IF U CAN'T B HELPFUL THEN DON'T RESPOND .I'M PRETTY SURE AT SOME POINT IN UR PHONE USE U RAN BENCHMARKS SO WHAT'S UR POINT ? LOL GOD SOME PPL:banghead:
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Just saying hii

Just wanted to introduce myself
I got my s3 a few months ago but i never really did anything with it. So yesterday i decided to root it and install CM10 but now i'm not use to the menu because i got used to TouchWiz ..
Well yeah that's all unless you want to hear my life story :|
I'm not going to say i'll be active and posting a lot because i most likely won't due to university but I'll probably read a through most of the threads.
TL;DR
HI, I have an S3. In Uni byebye

Welcome to SGS3 and XDA. This is a great place with a lot of information. Happy reading
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Welcome! Enjoy your embarkment into rom flashing!!

And don't get too hooked to flashing like I am!
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I have CM10.
but everything crashes alot. the systemUI and the messaging and the phone when i receive calls :/ and instagram lol
any recommendations?

Supernovav said:
Just wanted to introduce myself
I got my s3 a few months ago but i never really did anything with it. So yesterday i decided to root it and install CM10 but now i'm not use to the menu because i got used to TouchWiz ..
Well yeah that's all unless you want to hear my life story :|
I'm not going to say i'll be active and posting a lot because i most likely won't due to university but I'll probably read a through most of the threads.
TL;DR
HI, I have an S3. In Uni byebye
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Welcome, I am new to here as well.

Don't use your S III to hold your DSLR like I did
I am currently waiting patiently (painstakingly) for Sammy to fix it

Supernovav said:
I have CM10.
but everything crashes alot. the systemUI and the messaging and the phone when i receive calls :/ and instagram lol
any recommendations?
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Flash a task&ktoons rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684 .to stay with the cm10/aokp feel...or try one of drewgarens roms
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Welcome! I am new here also. Spent weeks lurking in the shadows reading and flashing and reading and flashing some more. There are volumes of knowledge here at xda, not to mention some pretty good ppl.
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Welcome to xda ...its a great resource for android but there are a few things you need to be aware of...if you ask a question in the development forums that's already been asked or answered...be prepared to get reamed by someone...as such learn to use the search function effectively...always read through the op and thread posts thoroughly...also be sure to post in the correct sections.. lastly get to know adb before you mess with your phone...other than that the community is pretty chill...just that at times it can be overwhelming to new comers...as long as you do your research though and follow the rules put forth by the mods and rom devs you should be fine.
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I've been lurking off and on for a long time lol, realized I joined the forums in June of 2008 but just within the last few days posted anything. Also just got a "real" phone (s3) to even really get down to playing around with since then too but regardless ha just saying you're not alone in the noob world of xda that's for sure
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Cynogenmod 10.1 for galaxy nexus gsm

When will we get cm10.1! Im bored of stock already other roms are useless.. want cna or cm.. so when are they releasing 4.2?
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You seriously had to create a thread for this even when knowing that ETA's are not to be asked for?
Wow!!!

hetunandu said:
When will we get cm10.1! Im bored of stock already other roms are useless.. want cna or cm.. so when are they releasing 4.2?
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dumb

I thought users from the i9100 forums were idiots but thus far, GNex tops it. Never before have I seen such a large collection of idiots on my life. 10.1 is available if you compile it yourself. But I doubt you're capable of completing such a task.
Edit: It appears as though someone has already made a self compiled kang of 10.1.

Try Jellybro.

Its already out
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There is 1 rule to CM and people still can't follow it. Smfh

063_XOBX said:
There is 1 rule to CM and people still can't follow it. Smfh
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And then you get threads full of discussions of people doing mental gymnastics to justify why its okay for them to ask because..
a.) they just asked if there was a timeframe, not an exact date.
b.) they asked politely.
c.) people are rude to them when they ask.
d.) they donated once, or thought about it, or their cousin did.
e.) they are noob and haven't had a chance to read.
f.) there is too much information to go through it all.
g.) they are such a huge fan that an exception should be made for them.
h.) they didn't see the last 10 threads about it.
i.) insert first thing that comes to mind here.

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And then you get threads full of discussions of people doing mental gymnastics to justify why its okay for them to ask because..
a.) they just asked if there was a timeframe, not an exact date.
b.) they asked politely.
c.) people are rude to them when they ask.
d.) they donated once, or thought about it, or their cousin did.
e.) they are noob and haven't had a chance to read.
f.) there is too much information to go through it all.
g.) they are such a huge fan that an exception should be made for them.
h.) they didn't see the last 10 threads about it.
i.) insert first thing that comes to mind here.
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j.) they're ungrateful little ****s, who deserve to have their phones smashed. 99% of the people that use custom roms need to stick to stock firmware or switch to iphones. it's clearly too complicated for them, nor do they understand the work that goes into creating something from scratch. i honestly don't know how developers tolerate such nonsense.

This type of threads annoys me alright.
But what's with the "terror thing" of someone asking for a date? It seems something from a pirate curse or witchcraft.
Jesus. Too much is too much. From either side of the fence.
Relax.

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joooe said:
This type of threads annoys me alright.
But what's with the "terror thing" of someone asking for a date? It seems something from a pirate curse or witchcraft.
Jesus. Too much is too much. From either side of the fence.
Relax.
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Someone asks a stupid question=lets start a thermonuclear war against him.
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D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
Someone is mentally incapable of following the one and only rule=lets start a thermonuclear war against him.
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FTFY

There's more wasted space from people complaining about people asking than there is FROM people asking in most threads lol
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You can compile it now from the cm source. Good luck with it though, mostly unfinished.
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D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
Someone asks a stupid question=lets start a thermonuclear war against him.
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There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
I wonder why people always feel the need to respond to every question out there on the web. Do you honestly believe that with billions of people online you will never find anyone's post that does not follow your specific set of rules? A little naive don't you think?
All you pro's, nerds and whiz kids out there know very well how forums work: you don't reply and the topic is out of sight within hours on a busy forum. Just accept reality or don't read at all. And yeah relax, life goes on.

Yet you replied 7 hours after the last post... The irony.
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You can try jellybro
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l.)
amf100 said:
There's more wasted space from people complaining about people asking than there is FROM people asking in most threads lol
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AgentSmith said:
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
I wonder why people always feel the need to respond to every question out there on the web. Do you honestly believe that with billions of people online you will never find anyone's post that does not follow your specific set of rules? A little naive don't you think?
All you pro's, nerds and whiz kids out there know very well how forums work: you don't reply and the topic is out of sight within hours on a busy forum. Just accept reality or don't read at all. And yeah relax, life goes on.
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What In The World Is Going On With XDA As of Late?

I'm sure I'm not the only person who notices, but the past couple of weeks or so, XDA has been downright ridiculous...or should I say the members?
People are so tense. People don't even bother to read. Most of the time, the answer is just a few messages back. No OP's are being read. People are just....I don't know. It's like everyone is on smack or something. What makes it worse, is that the same questions get asked many times and yet, people keep on asking.
This creates problems, because the people who need help cannot find it, through the continuous garbage that's being spilled and it seems as if the mod(s) have gone missing...or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. Then, we have the people who hide under the guise of being a "newb" hoping that, it'll give them an excuse, when apparently these same people have been on this site, for quite some time and some KNOW better. Haha, then they get upset when their answer isn't spoon fed to them.
*sigh*
I mean, REALLY people, what's going on? You can call this a rant if you choose, but I feel better now. People, just read....and experiment. There's no reason why you be asking how to use a rom specific feature in a rom. Not with videos and well written guides out there.
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lately????!!??

crixley said:
lately????!!??
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Okay, well in general. Lol It just seems as if it's been peaking and people wonder why some are getting angry. I don't blame those who do. I'm angry as well.lol
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phreshy said:
Okay, well in general. Lol It just seems as if it's been peaking and people wonder why some are getting angry. I don't blame those who do. I'm angry as well.lol
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It was like this as far back as I can remember...
My account may be new but Ive been lurking for years now

Just the same old same old. Some folks just don't want to get their learn on. The Note 2 threads are rife with it at the moment.
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It definitely seems that people don't tend to have the patience to read through the posts. It took me 3 days to read through all the posts of the above how to build cm10.1 posts and while some questions and posts I would end up reading the same questions every couple page's
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croakz said:
It definitely seems that people don't tend to have the patience to read through the posts. It took me 3 days to read through all the posts of the above how to build cm10.1 posts and while some questions and posts I would end up reading the same questions every couple page's
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Yes, like for instance. It has to be near a hundred times, where PA user's asked "How do we use pie?". It's in the settings. Two clicks man, TWO clicks! Lazy isn't even the word.
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phreshy said:
Yes, like for instance. It has to be near a hundred times, where PA user's asked "How do we use pie?". It's in the settings. Two clicks man, TWO clicks! Lazy isn't even the word.
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this would stop happening if all the "helpful" users stopped spoonfeeding this lazy ppl answers... those users think they are helping ppl but what they dont realize is that they are actually making those lazy users stupider and when they have issues they will start useless threads and start posting usless posts in the dev section... that is why i say either ignore these posts or give a reply that requires them to read.. like when i read stupid question in the PA thread i reply with "either search the thread or read the paranoid 101 thread that is linked in my sig"
PS- honestly if the answer is on the same page that they posted on or 1 page back, then those users should not be allowed to flash roms IMO

This happens all the time all over xda happened in the evo forums when it was popular and right now and has been popular. Especially when sprint had a deal on them. Just try to remember it the Internet... We were all noobs
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k786 said:
this would stop happening if all the "helpful" users stopped spoonfeeding this lazy ppl answers... those users think they are helping ppl but what they dont realize is that they are actually making those lazy users stupider and when they have issues they will start useless threads and start posting usless posts in the dev section... that is why i say either ignore these posts or give a reply that requires them to read.. like when i read stupid question in the PA thread i reply with "either search the thread or read the paranoid 101 thread that is linked in my sig"
PS- honestly if the answer is on the same page that they posted on or 1 page back, then those users should not be allowed to flash roms IMO
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Dude, you read my mind ENTIRELY! There's always that person who replies after you and tells the person who asks, the entire thing. Then, we get looked at as the bad guys. It's not that at all. We care enough about the community, to want everyone be knowledgeable in these things. Think of the people who, after reading, may become developers down the line. They need to learn. How about said persons power goes out. How in the world would they know how to preserve their devices to the fullest, if they DON'T have knowledge? There IS no asking "Hey, I'm a newb and my power is out. How do I set my brightness to a lower level and clock my CPU down, so I can save some battery?" At that point.
It ticks me, because instead of being able to easily find and help hose who need it, or to find out information, I have to wade through countless pages of garbage, just to find what I'm looking for. No to mention, that Tapatalk isn't search friendly. I just hope people will "go the extra mile". Not just for themselves, but for the community as a whole.
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ben.nesheim said:
This happens all the time all over xda happened in the evo forums when it was popular and right now and has been popular. Especially when sprint had a deal on them. Just try to remember it the Internet... We were all noobs
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Yes, I have to remember that, but it would be a lot easier, if it didn't affect so many people....and myself.
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Don't complain and then put these words in every post....John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)

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Don't complain and then put these words in every post....John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)
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Your point being? That has nothing to do with people failing to read. Again, this affects the community as a whole. Not just a few people. Haha, in fact that fits quite nicely.
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There's also an alarming trend of people quoting everything from the previous post. I've seen people quote as many as ten paragraphs to add a simple one line response...

R: What In The World Is Going On With XDA As of Late?
Whats going on its inevitable for every forum
because there are 2 kinds of people in a forum:
- people that read every single word in every single post in every single thread
- people that come for the first time, open a thread (existing nor new ) and simply ask a question
Both are not to blame everyone is free to choice what to do in life
But when those 2 kind of users meet, its "war"..and this is wrong, because both will need to understand each other scope.
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phreshy said:
Your point being? That has nothing to do with people failing to read. Again, this affects the community as a whole. Not just a few people. Haha, in fact that fits quite nicely.
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From the bottom of my heart in a soft voice WWJD?

Better here than in some other places
I came here from rootzwiki where it was not uncommon to see threads with > 2k pages. I jumped on the mmuzzy bandwagon and when I tried to post I got hand-in-face - I wasn't allowed to post in a dev forum. Completely understand, and appreciated that as well as the rules for duplicate threads and locking threads. So I guess if I post 10 times in this thread I'll be allowed to post in a dev forum, but I hardly ever do.

danger-rat said:
There's also an alarming trend of people quoting everything from the previous post. I've seen people quote as many as ten paragraphs to add a simple one line response...
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Who does that?! lol
phreshy said:
John Ch3 "5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (KingJamesVersion)
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"If a man's testicles are crushed or his penis is cut off, he may not be admitted to the assembly of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:1

lol op are you new to the world? They are called idiots and they are multiplying faster than ever. They think smart phones will make them not appear dumb but unfortunately it only amplifies their retard levels to new heights. You just have to laugh at there stupidity and use it to make yourself feel better.
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Well in the "newbs" defense a lot of the rom or mod threads are so ridiculously long and filled with hundreds of pages of "wow smoothness rom Eva!" so it unrealistic to ask them to read 1000 pages to find an answer to a simple question. Add to that some OP are terribly out of date or empty of real information.
Not excusing all of them but, don't let it bother you too much.
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Noobs, trolls and Know-it-alls......

Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.

What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.

Aerowinder said:
So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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jenaltals said:
That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.

Bass_Man25 said:
I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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Bass_Man25 said:
I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1

scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.

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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
Wood