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The point of having a micro sd card slot

is? If I cant see it in some apps or file explorer?

Root explorer and astro can see external. So does my apps
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As does es file explorer
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rambo8987 said:
Root explorer and astro can see external. So does my apps
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Thanks, I now see astro can see my micro sdcard and I can install apps that way but why does samsung make their file structure so limiting?

corythug said:
As does es file explorer
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es file explorer didnt see my card. Or at least I couldnt navigate up a parent directory.

The stock my files app can.
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The stock my files app can.
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Youre running stock? I'm wondering if stock doesnt have this problem. Didnt bother checking.

Some apps such as Root Explorer you will find it located at mnt/extSdCard. Also for some app settings you can point to that. It works for me anyway.
EDIT: Ok just downloaded ES File explorer and figured it out. If you're rooted check 'root explorer' on and check 'Up to root'. Once you do that you can go up to parent folder and select mnt. There you will find /extSdCard. :thumbup:
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Issue is your apps can't use external sd card which sucks and no current rom from what I read fixes this because it is a Google screw up on purpose in Ics and jelly bean. You can only use internal memory to install apps now and I am pretty sure Google is doing this on purpose so you store more in their cloud and they can harvest your data more easily for targeted ads. If you install a lot of games from game loft forget it your 16gb internal memory is shot quick and your large sd card is sitting there empty.
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Create a folder called external_sd on your internal sd card and download the app ics sd binder and it will mount it to there
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es file explorer didnt see my card. Or at least I couldnt navigate up a parent directory.
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In ES Explorer you have to go to settings to allow "Root" in order to see your micro sd card in /mnt/extsdcard.

I'm certainly no expert here, but I don't think Google/Samsung have a conspiracy going. Coming from the Linux world, it's a common thing to mount storage under /mnt. The location of the external sd was also a bit weird on my last phone, the Moto Atrix. When it came out it took a while for app developers to adjust their programs to accommodate it (i.e., Titanium Backup). Hopefully the same will happen soon with the S III. As for the ability to move apps to the external sd, I'm not so sure that's a good idea anyway. For me doing that on any Android phone has always been somewhat problematic. I pretty much just use the sd for media storage now.
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SysAdmNj said:
is? If I cant see it in some apps or file explorer?
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All my mp3 are on the the SD card, same for pictures and video clips.

Yup 100% stock. I didnt root it yet.
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hunmin said:
In ES Explorer you have to go to settings to allow "Root" in order to see your micro sd card in /mnt/extsdcard.
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I dont need root (I dont even have root access on this phone) and I can see my SD card with any apps and I never needed to mount the card either.
I dont know what you are all doing wrong.

rickwood said:
I'm certainly no expert here, but I don't think Google/Samsung have a conspiracy going. Coming from the Linux world, it's a common thing to mount storage under /mnt. The location of the external sd was also a bit weird on my last phone, the Moto Atrix. When it came out it took a while for app developers to adjust their programs to accommodate it (i.e., Titanium Backup). Hopefully the same will happen soon with the S III. As for the ability to move apps to the external sd, I'm not so sure that's a good idea anyway. For me doing that on any Android phone has always been somewhat problematic. I pretty much just use the sd for media storage now.
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Exactly what I was trying to say. Why cant we navigate to /mnt and pick our storage ourselves.

drakeymcmb said:
Create a folder called external_sd on your internal sd card and download the app ics sd binder and it will mount it to there
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Thanks appreciate the help.
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sabre31 said:
Issue is your apps can't use external sd card which sucks and no current rom from what I read fixes this because it is a Google screw up on purpose in Ics and jelly bean. You can only use internal memory to install apps now and I am pretty sure Google is doing this on purpose so you store more in their cloud and they can harvest your data more easily for targeted ads. If you install a lot of games from game loft forget it your 16gb internal memory is shot quick and your large sd card is sitting there empty.
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Or maybe they just don't want to make average users go through a file explorer if possible?
It's not a conspiracy, even if you think it is.

drakeymcmb said:
Create a folder called external_sd on your internal sd card and download the app ics sd binder and it will mount it to there
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How did i miss this reply, thanks that seems to help. Is there an original thread on this app or this issue by any chance?

SysAdmNj said:
How did i miss this reply, thanks that seems to help. Is there an original thread on this app or this issue by any chance?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652079

(APP) Move large apps to external SD. Works great!

Hey peeps. I finally got fed up running out of storage and went searching for something to fix it. Modern combat 3 takes up 1.4 gigs and Nova takes even more. With this app I can move their external data to the external SD card freeing up more room for more games.
I didn't create this app, just wanted to let people know about it. Remember you need to use the app to open these games once you move their data, otherwise they will just re download their files again.
Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll try and help if I can.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp
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lessthanzach said:
Hey peeps. I finally got fed up running out of storage and went searching for something to fix it. Modern combat 3 takes up 1.4 gigs and Nova takes even more. With this app I can move their external data to the external SD card freeing up more room for more games.
I didn't create this app, just wanted to let people know about it. Remember you need to use the app to open these games once you move their data, otherwise they will just re download their files again.
Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll try and help if I can.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp
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does not work on my S3 with AOSP CM on it. I am reverting my build.prop and see if that fixes it that I use for google wallet, perhaps it does not work on the "Nexus"

eatonjb said:
does not work on my S3 with AOSP CM on it. I am reverting my build.prop and see if that fixes it that I use for google wallet, perhaps it does not work on the "Nexus"
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What's it say? Does it throw and error or just plain when u try to do something doesn't do it?
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lessthanzach said:
What's it say? Does it throw and error or just plain when u try to do something doesn't do it?
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It says that it's not compatible with my device, but I changed the3 build.prop back to say that I have a S3 not a Nexus, and google play let me install it. I will report back when i get to try some apps.

eatonjb said:
It says that it's not compatible with my device, but I changed the3 build.prop back to say that I have a S3 not a Nexus, and google play let me install it. I will report back when i get to try some apps.
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Good. Should work fine. I noticed a couple times it wouldn't launch asphalt 7 so I checked the setting to clear cache when launching a game and that seems to have fixed it. Let me know if there are any other issues you run into.
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Now all we have to do is wait for the 64gb sdhc xc to drop in price severely

djsyche said:
Now all we have to do is wait for the 64gb sdhc xc to drop in price severely
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Yup. I found it on Amazon for 54.99 two days ago. Really solid price for a uhs class 10 64gig card.
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better app
this app is better i use it and it works for much more than just gl games..
i have all my gps maps on external sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262

lgkahn said:
this app is better i use it and it works for much more than just gl games..
i have all my gps maps on external sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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The one I posted does more than game loft games as well. You can add any application that allows the installation of data to external cards. But whatever. Choices are good.
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I moved the data for three games and the game is asking me to download the data again

LSUtigers03 said:
I moved the data for three games and the game is asking me to download the data again
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Go into settings and check the boxes next to mount data.
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Good find followed your instructions worked perfect thanks also don't forget to recover list when you add games
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overrated doesn't move the vast majority of apps to the sd card.

zetsui said:
overrated doesn't move the vast majority of apps to the sd card.
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The vast majority don't need to be moved. But I have yet to find an app over 50 megs that I couldn't move so it's possible you are doing something wrong.
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namgisdon said:
Good find followed your instructions worked perfect thanks also don't forget to recover list when you add games
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Cool. Glad to hear it worked for you. I couldn't figure out directory bind program mentioned earlier so this was exactly what I was looking for.
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[Q] ok, how to move apps/data to SD card in JB?

i have 16GB internally but 64GB in a mSD. how on earth do you move game data that doesn't ask where to install to the sd card?

You can't unless you root

i have root

Search Directorybind on xda via Google a d try that
Works perfectly for me!
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tommo123 said:
i have 16GB internally but 64GB in a mSD. how on earth do you move game data that doesn't ask where to install to the sd card?
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GL TO SD for the Game and heavy apps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtJQRMMBk90
Sammath said:
Search Directorybind on xda via Google a d try that
Works perfectly for me!
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It's move all apps or selected apps?

Marchintosh said:
It's move all apps or selected apps?
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It moves directories, so you can choose directories of specific apps/games or for example all games by binding /sdcard/Android /obb to the external sd card.
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CreepyDroid said:
It moves directories, so you can choose directories of specific apps/games or for example all games by binding /sdcard/Android /obb to the external sd card.
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And is it running in background?

neither work for me. the GL to SD moves data but nothing else. the games still wants to download.
the other - directorybind - says i'm not selecting a valid directory. i used the internal browser in the app. guessing because it's set to extsdcard instead of sdcard.
doesn't seem to support JB going by that

Marchintosh said:
And is it running in background?
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I saw a notificationof of it taking control of the root shell from time to time but idk whether it's running all the time or not.
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any ideas why directorybind isn't working?

tommo123 said:
any ideas why directorybind isn't working?
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You have to specify the correct prefix via the menu settings.
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what? that applies to the assistant according to the blurb underneath it

ok decided to let the assistant do its thing and it did move the data.
shame it did it in a totally useless and just moved it to another path on the same internal space! instead of sdcard>data etc, it moved it to sdcard>external_sd > etc.
so still on the internal storage, not the actual SD
basically, this thing doesn't work on JB yet.

[Q] Are there ANY downsides to upgrading to 4.4?

Hi all
I'm just wondering if there's anything in 4.4 that is NOT as good as 4.3? Any limitations or disadvantages you can think of? (I've read something to do with the external SD function...???)
Cheers in advance

Answers to all your answers to all the questions you could ask found right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720562
Changes in Stock 4.4 [Summarized]
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Only and major downside for me - extSD card not writable by system and hence useless on stock ROM!

kornelius1982 said:
Only and major downside for me - extSD card not writable by system and hence useless on stock ROM!
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There is a way to fix this.
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toyanucci said:
There is a way to fix this.
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Do you mean fix without root?
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Got to root. For me, with one device already on Kitty Kat and seeing no big advantage, I will not be upgrading my Note 10.1 or Note 8.
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kornelius1982 said:
Only and major downside for me - extSD card not writable by system and hence useless on stock ROM!
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--> extSD card not writable by system <--
Are you saying you cannot write to the SD card with apps like OfficeSuite Pro or the camera or just that the system will not install and run programs from the SD card?

If an application is designed to save its files to the card in a folder created by said application, then yes. If the application cannot create a folder on the card, then no. That is a quick explanation.
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Thanks...
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Chromecast doesn't work. If you're a big user of Chromecast, DO NOT update as there's no way to revert...

supremekizzle said:
Chromecast doesn't work. If you're a big user of Chromecast, DO NOT update as there's no way to revert...
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I bet they fix that one quick.
BTW - When I went to KitKat on some of my other tabs all I had to do was reinstall the same apps (same versions) and they worked fine. The reinstall did something that made them work fine. Out of several hundred apps it was only a handful.

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Chromecast doesn't work. If you're a big user of Chromecast, DO NOT update as there's no way to revert...
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Is this only for 10.1 2014 with KK? Because I dont think this is KK related as Chromecast works for my Note 3 with SinLess KK ROM.

can someone quickly elaborate about extSD card issue
I've been able to grab small tid bits here and there.
does that mean that I can't store data, or that apps that for example fpse use ext sd for rom storage will no longer be able to use extSd ??

Sd card will work pretty much like on pre-Android, pre-Symbian phones.
Only good for media files, which must be stored via a pc, not say, loaded with the tablet from a nas.
Probably pics and vids taken with the Note can be saved on the card.
They force all more sophisticated users to root. Others, who enjoy being submitted to rules, even silly ones, and miss Adolf, are already using iOS and WP anyway.

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Naith32 said:
Hi all
I'm just wondering if there's anything in 4.4 that is NOT as good as 4.3? Any limitations or disadvantages you can think of? (I've read something to do with the external SD function...???)
Cheers in advance
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Hey glad I caught this thread on time. So since you're on kitkat, you are unable to turn your device around 180 degrees. And that pretty much renders all cases useless for the typing position UNLESS you buy Samsung's pricey case that can fold without having you turn the device.

xcmonx said:
Hey glad I caught this thread on time. So since you're on kitkat, you are unable to turn your device around 180 degrees. And that pretty much renders all cases useless for the typing position UNLESS you buy Samsung's pricey case that can fold without having you turn the device.
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Not sure where you got that info. I'm on KitKat and turning the device works just as it did before the upgrade. I can put the power cord at the top if I need to. There's nothing I tried that doesn't work with the Note upside down.

TabGuy said:
Not sure where you got that info. I'm on KitKat and turning the device works just as it did before the upgrade. I can put the power cord at the top if I need to. There's nothing I tried that doesn't work with the Note upside down.
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Really? It might just be my custom ROM then. Well I'm currently experiencing that problem with Kat1.0 kitkat ROM for the SMP600. Is anyone else using that ROM encounter this problem? Is there an xposed hack for this?

Kit Kat and SD Card
toyanucci said:
There is a way to fix this.
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It is working for me with upgrade through Kies3 this week.

Is My Files app affected by the SD card restrictions? I assume only 3rd party apps in the play store are affected.
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Is My Files app affected by the SD card restrictions? I assume only 3rd party apps in the play store are affected.
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No, the my files app has full permissions. So you can still say download things and then just move them over from internal to external.
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App 2 SD ?

How can we push apps to external SD storage ?

Freshman206 said:
How can we push apps to external SD storage ?
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I like LINK2SD (free in market). Requires you to be rooted.

AppMgr III
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mitchellvii said:
I like LINK2SD (free in market). Requires you to be rooted.
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Sigh... Really? My choices are rooting or AppMgr III? Grrrr
It would be soooo nice to have a high end device that did not require a new definition of rendering (as in put thru a grinder) before I was 100% happy with it.

theotherkindofcouger said:
Sigh... Really? My choices are rooting or AppMgr III? Grrrr
It would be soooo nice to have a high end device that did not require a new definition of rendering (as in put thru a grinder) before I was 100% happy with it.
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Well rooting takes like a minute maybe. Samsung makes it hard to send apps to the SD card because they want you to pay more for more memory. At least its not apple and you get to have an sdcard.

Freshman206 said:
How can we push apps to external SD storage ?
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Im using folder mount

ThE_SoUrCe said:
Im using folder mount
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Thank you so much. Finally an app that works.