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Aight so I downloaded juice defender free last night cause I've been having battery heat problems.....but it shuts off my 3g connection when the screen goes off and I can't seem to find the setting for it....I use Pandora radio so this is a bit of a *****.....any solutions?
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Thats pretty much the only thing Juice Defender free does that can save your battery, that and turning off wifi too. So if you disable it why even have Juice Defender installed? I too tried the free version for about 2 days and could never get my wifi or 3g to come back on so I uninstalled it and thanked god I hadn't paid $10 for the paid version. IMO its crap.
Juice defender is terrible. It kills your battery. well thats my experience...
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I was using it mainly because I wanted to see if it would help my temperature problems but it didn't....it just effed me up more
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Terrible app. If it does anything then it kills the battery... Brings android system to the top of the usage list, because it shuts off 3g and wifi..
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Screen is still the top on my usage.
I have the paid version. It gives you the ability to lock items (like Pandora) "on" for data usage. Then, they don't get killed.
I had amazing battery life with it on my D1. Jury is still out on the Incredible. I'm still working through ROMs and Kernels.
I use it also. It has this new feature that you can tell it your local wireless and leave it alone. Problem is it doesn't work. Keeps shutting off my wireless when I'm using it! Very frustrating.
Also their developer is not very accessible. They want all issues solved through their forums. I hate that...The best software also has an accessible support system.
The one good thing I will say about it is it has the potential for taking over all aspects of managing your phone. A one stop shop. Just not there yet...
I used to use Juice Defender with 2.1 and found that it helped battery life. However, with Froyo, it just made the phone unstable. (It'd just sponaneously reboot sitting on my hip 2-3 times a day.) After uninstalling all is well.
A co-orker's Sprint phone had the same flakyness until he uninstalled JD.
Wild! I have never had random reboots. But, we all know how unique these devices are... even between the same model.
With warm twopointtwo, it doesn't seem to be turning on all the time... or warm is somehow killing it.
dbaps - are you still in 'training' for the wifi? It takes JD a couple of times to fully learn your location (based off of towers) and remember that as a wifi location. Check under the settings...it'll tell you what percentage of training it has completed.
Those of you who say its crap obviously dont have it configured correctly. I bought "ultimate juice" and when you go into the custom or aggressive profiles you can tweak everything until your heart's content! It still seems to shut off data when Im streaming stuff with slacker and connected to wifi, even though I tell it not to. Other than that it definitely will give you a few extra hours if you spend the time to configure it properly.
Terrible app!
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Those of you who say its crap obviously dont have it configured correctly. I bought "ultimate juice" and when you go into the custom or aggressive profiles you can tweak everything until your heart's content! It still seems to shut off data when Im streaming stuff with slacker and connected to wifi, even though I tell it not to. Other than that it definitely will give you a few extra hours if you spend the time to configure it properly.
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There is no correct configuration to this app. That is why it is called "Custom". The reason it is CRAP is due to the reason you list as a problem among numerous other features that don't work.
Seriously, why have an option to automatically tweak CPU values if the option doesn't work with 99% of the kernels on the market, which also includes the STOCK kernel?
Yeah, it's a GREAT app!
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Wild! I have never had random reboots. But, we all know how unique these devices are... even between the same model.
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True. For clarity's sake, I was using JD free so I don't know if any other version would have been better or worse. It's possible that the complex WiFi network at work (multiple APs per floor with a centralized controller) confused things.
My phone is a droid incredible, the co-worker's is a Sprint Epic. Different symptoms - he had phone lockups requiring battery removal to recover. Rooted, re-ROMed and still crashing until Juice Defender removed.
If you use Ultimate Juice and set up things correctly. This programs rocks.
It will turn on and off your data (3g and wifi) when you need it (according to the conditions you set).
It takes a little bit of reading and intuition, trial and error, and PATIENCE.
Use it for more than 1 day. Your phone usage varies day to day.
Again, read the text, THINK, and setup the conditions according to the way YOU need them.
I get at least 20-40% more battery depending on how I use my phone. I rarely charge mid-day any more and I can count on my phone having battery throughout the most useful hours of the day.
On light to moderate use, I get at least 14-18 hours. Just for fun, I once tested it and got about 29 hours before the battery hit 5%. That's with a little texting and a few phone calls. I use the stock, standard capacity battery as well.
SET IT UP RIGHT!
I've had no issues with JD running on 2.2.
Set on Aggressive. Only annoying thing is that I get the error notification icon for Weatherbug Elite every two hours because data is shut off.
First - I've got the most recent JD installed. The old one was kind of lame. People have made some good points, but there is a lot of incorrect information in this thread...
It works. If you are *NOT* actively using your phone, it will save your battery by disabling communication you don't need. I can go to bed at 80%, wake up 7 hours later at 79%, maybe 78% at the worst case.
If you are using your phone, it's quite nice - it comes on quickly - and manages my network well (at home, uses WiFi, elsewhere - 3G).
It's not $10.
My wife is using the free version and has had zero problems.
I've never tried aggressive, but maybe I will.
I cant comment on the CPU stuff - never used that.
Scott
I've never had a problem either. I'm running Skyraider 3.5 with incredikernal 2.6.32.27. I have the free version set on advanced. The best battery lift I've gotten with light phone use, texting, data syncing and browsing was 72 hours. Same use with stock rom and kernal my best was about 18 hours before I needed to charge. I know everyone is different, but that's my experience.
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First - I've got the most recent JD installed. The old one was kind of lame. People have made some good points, but there is a lot of incorrect information in this thread...
It works. If you are *NOT* actively using your phone, it will save your battery by disabling communication you don't need. I can go to bed at 80%, wake up 7 hours later at 79%, maybe 78% at the worst case.
If you are using your phone, it's quite nice - it comes on quickly - and manages my network well (at home, uses WiFi, elsewhere - 3G).
It's not $10.
My wife is using the free version and has had zero problems.
I've never tried aggressive, but maybe I will.
I cant comment on the CPU stuff - never used that.
Scott
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When I tried it back last Fall the paid version was indeed $10, its now down to $5. Which I still believe is way too much for this app. My 3g would not turn back on no mater what I did and yes I read the tutorials many times and had it set properly.
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First - I've got the most recent JD installed. The old one was kind of lame. People have made some good points, but there is a lot of incorrect information in this thread...
It works.
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Perhaps for you. For me (stock ROM on my dinc) it made the phone unusable. Calling that observation "crap" or "lame" is convenient, but doesn't reflect the experience that I had (and which others had).
Again, with Android 2.1 JD did help a great deal. With 2.2, it didn't help battery life but made the phone crash. This was not a positive trade-off.
With froyo, I can go two days on my incredible between charges given light usage without it. Why put up with the instability just to get a few extra hours of battery life?
For example, I'm currently at 62% after 15 hours since unplugged with moderate usage of the phone, with WiFi and Bluetooth enabled. I could just turn off Bluetooth except when I'm in the car, but I doubt it'd buy me more than a few extra hours of useful life.
Juice defender has caused me multiple problems. Was the source of phantom call drops and sleep of death!! As soon ad I removed it, problems solved.
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Also corrupted two SD cards, losing all my files, because of sleeps and reboot caused by JD. Does not play well with Z and HD roms at all. Works at first but soon became the cause of a lot of problems.
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Is anyone else experiencing a higher data usage than they previously had?
On my Desire HD I was on Unlimited data and I used about 450mb a month. I had pretty much all syncing enabled.
On my gnex I only have Google syncing and I appear to have used 120mb already in 4 days...
I might have to cancel my contract and buy outright on giffgaff..
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Have you not checked what's using the data, using the new data monitor in ICS? I had Google Books download 40mb without knowing!
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Have you not checked what's using the data, using the new data monitor in ICS? I had Google Books download 40mb without knowing!
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Hah!! great point. use the data usage app OP!
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Hah!! great point. use the data usage app OP!
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Dont know if its just me but the data usage app is buggy. Still says 211kb for browser after 4 days so i wouldnt trust it.
Ymmm market backup? New phone everything is restoring?
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Of course you get much higher usage the first weeks with a new phone. Just as you get "worse" battery time.
This is because all sane XDA enthusiasts uses a new phone much more than the old one the first weeks or so...
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Of course you get much higher usage the first weeks with a new phone. Just as you get "worse" battery time.
This is because all sane XDA enthusiasts uses a new phone much more than the old one the first weeks or so...
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That is true, Hmm I ll have mine in a couple of days Ill look at this but for me I have unlimited data plan so doesn't matter really
The data usage app is a bit buggy, as is the battery one.
I set my phone up on Wifi etc. In the data usage for the my Wifi it shows as 900mb..
So effectively i've used almost 1GB in total over 4-5 days. I've only used the phone on data the same as I would use any other phone so I cannot understand why its so high.
It all seems to be random background stuff that isn't open in multitasking :s Think I might return it and buy outright with GiffGaff...
so i got the nexus couple days ago and i have been previously on at&t with galaxy s2 of course the internet was slower there so it was kind of harder to reach that 2gb limit.
Now i wanted to ask do you guys know any good software that will show me exactly how much each program is eating the bandwidth?
i know the built in ics meter usage but i dont really trust it.
So far i checked that the go weather widget was using 0.01 kb of data each few minutes so i turned off the auto update ( i did 300 megs somehow in 2days)
i know speedtests really take a lot so i dont do them anymore
i also listened to sirius xm for like 20 minutes but even on at&t it wouldnt eat as much data.
Thanks guys
Why don't you trust the built in data usage app? It's not perfect, but even if its within 50mb of the actual, that's an acceptable measure.
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Why don't you trust the built in data usage app? It's not perfect, but even if its within 50mb of the actual, that's an acceptable measure.
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It's not within 50MB lol. Last month I went through around 3GB and it said I used like 2.7GB. A difference of 10% is pretty big when you have a data limit...it could mean spending an extra $30 that month.
OP, check out 3G Watch Dog. Best data-monitoring solution on the market. Set how much data you get per month and when your billing period starts (just like the ICS built-in one) and it'll keep you updated with what you're doing. It's not perfect for monitoring specific apps either, but the overall total is usually exact (since it monitors at the last possible point before exiting/entering the phone).
I find Network Counter to be pretty effective...
So i was thinking on how i want this phone to be delivered, since i have to wait until monday... but then i was imagining those fast speeds that i was gona have, and the it hit me... faster means quicker.... so is it true that the probabilities of your data to reach your data allowance is quicker?? i need to know because i only bought 4gb of internet... and i use my phone's internet a lot
thanks
You use the same amount of data whether on LTE or 3G. It all depends on your usage. If you decide to use more because its faster, then yeah...you will hit your cap faster.
If you drive a mile at 20mph, vs 120mph, it is still a mile. You went the same distance, just arrived at it quicker.
so it's not going to affect it at all?
It depends on your usage. People typically use more data when things are faster because it is more enjoyable, or it allows them to do things they could not before, such as HD video streaming.
In a controlled environment where habits do not change whatsoever, you use the same amount of data no matter your speed.
It will only affect the speed at which you consume the data. If you're requesting 1.5Mb on Facebook over 3G, or 1.5Mb on Facebook over 4G LTE, it's still 1.5Mb. What you may experience, though, is that since you view information so much quicker, your usage of 4G LTE may go up. Just remember to have WiFi on whenever you're in an accessible WiFi hotspot, and if you start using more data (viewing more sites, watching more YouTube videos, etc) because it's delivered faster, just keep tabs on it. If you're on Verizon, they have a data widget you can download from the market. If not, you can keep close-enough tabs on it by seeing your data usage in settings.
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so it's not going to affect it at all?
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It'll probably effect you subconsciously as you'll more than likely be like "wow this is fast, I'll do more stuff!"
but if you do the exact same things, the faster speed doesn't use more data by default.
I'm still at the same usage as on 3G. As mentioned, if you stream video that's one of the few things where the same use can pull more data because you may be pulling better quality video. If you're really concerned, ICS has a lot of alerts to warn you when you're getting close to your cap, install the VZW data usage widget, and use WiFi at home and (if possible) work.
I spent more time doing speed tests once I started using LTE. It accounted for a lot of my bandwidth for the first week or so.
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so no speed tests.... even though it was one of the things i wanted to do... i wanted to see how fast it was.... how much did it take? and how many tryouts did you do?
So I have noticed that my note 3 has been reporting high data usage than I normally do. my verizon nexus did an avg of 5gb while this thing has been known to register 10-20gb a month. With the same usage between the two phones and phone companies. (using data usage in settings)
T-mobile registered me using 12.6973 GB / Unlimited Non-Shared for one month. My phone says I used 13.67gb for the same time period. However, I actually added up all the data used by each app individually and got 4.08gb of usage. (and I counted 60 apps using less than 1mb as 1mb each)
I can't possibly be using 8+gb of data that the phone aint counting am I? Do you have similar results?
Here is my math proof
2 apps using more than a gb of data = 2.3gb data
all apps measured in mb = 1771.21 mb. Converted to gb = 1.729697266 gb data
60 apps using less than 1mb counted as 60mb data converted to gb = 0.0585938 gb data
added up == 4.088291066 gb data used
Can't help you with your missing data, but I just did rough estimate on mine and it adds up pretty well to the totals showed, but I'm nowhere near your totals. The discrepancy between bill and phone could be data used over wifi or slightly different cutoff time (phone could be running totals until midnight your local time and T-mo could be using pacific time).
If I had to make totally wild guess, I remember once somebody posted something about some program going wild on his phone and using gigabytes of data in a matter of days, don't remember the outcome, if it was virus or just crashed program in a loop accessing internet at random, but maybe you should start with some full reset or something. Also maybe look for a better program monitoring your data access and usage. I would be concerned and tried to figure it out, if it was my phone, especially that I have 2GB high speed limit, LOL. Is your phone set up as mobile hot spot? Could somebody else use data from your phone? Did you run virus check?
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Can't help you with your missing data, but I just did rough estimate on mine and it adds up pretty well to the totals showed, but I'm nowhere near your totals. The discrepancy between bill and phone could be data used over wifi or slightly different cutoff time (phone could be running totals until midnight your local time and T-mo could be using pacific time).
If I had to make totally wild guess, I remember once somebody posted something about some program going wild on his phone and using gigabytes of data in a matter of days, don't remember the outcome, if it was virus or just crashed program in a loop accessing internet at random, but maybe you should start with some full reset or something. Also maybe look for a better program monitoring your data access and usage. I would be concerned and tried to figure it out, if it was my phone, especially that I have 2GB high speed limit, LOL. Is your phone set up as mobile hot spot? Could somebody else use data from your phone? Did you run virus check?
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this has been going on since I got the phone brand new. I have unlimited so i wasn't too worried, but after months of repetition, i'm trying to get to the bottom of it. virus scan is good with two programs.