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Using both odex and deodex in the same ROM

Ran across a thread today detailing how to use deodex and odex both in the same rom. Seems very interesting and I don't see why we couldn't do this with the E4GT. Here's the thread detailing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437799
I'll try it in a bit and report back. If anyone else does it before me, let us know if it works.
EDIT: I was a bit misled by the title (it was too early). It changes the verify-bytecode and a couple other things. It doesn't actually give you both, just the claimed performance boost you have when using odex ROMs. If you want odex/deodex ability on the fly or to have odex but retain the proper file inside the .apk in order to update/mod we already have something for that
That being said, this *should* give you the same performance without actually odexing a ROM.
EDIT 2: So I tried it, prevented my phone from booting. Don't change the dalvik-cache flags. Not sure if they vary from ROM to ROM but on Calks 2.8.1 it's set to m=y so leave it at that. Otherwise you'll probably have the same issue I did. The important part is telling it not to verify the bytecode.

interesting.. thanks for the share.

What would be the major benefit to this?
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niv3d said:
What would be the major benefit to this?
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I would assume you get the best of both worlds. The customization you get with deodex but the lower RAM usage, faster boot times, and overall buttery smoothness you get with odex. Of course none of the claims made for odex have been throughly proven but that's the general consensus.

Mik used to do this with his sense 3.0+ roms on the og evo
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You guys talking about Odexing your ROMs? Have you checked the Dev section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476617
Might be of interest to you.

b1g.p0ppa said:
You guys talking about Odexing your ROMs? Have you checked the Dev section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476617
Might be of interest to you.
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Hey that thread looks familiar. LOL.
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To all the devs...

Is it just me or has our roms come to a bit of a stand still? Is it because samsungs are hard to develop for, or is it something else?i know ot took quite some time for the infuse to get a good base of devs but i left att before that happened.
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Have you been reading about the massive progress devs have made across boards on Jelly bean? Hell even with the recent FG20 leak. The amazing kernel support from agat and chris41G. It isn't still at all. There is a lot of activity, just read around.
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Lately I been seeing a lot of development going on.. From jelly bean.. A few new ics roms and the usually update follow ups
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Lately I been seeing a lot of development going on.. From jelly bean.. A few new ics roms and the usually update follow ups
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Besides not everyone catching up and playing "follow the leak" game anymore, I'd agree with everyone else that there are some furious activities.

MoHoGalore said:
Besides not everyone catching up and playing "follow the leak" game anymore, I'd agree with everyone else that there are some furious activities.
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Lol at follow the leak game!
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Well yeah ive seen the devs working on jellybean and i saw the fg20 leak but I don't trust it given the fact that it's meant for boost. And in terms of jellybean its just a port. Once we start getting the leaks for it who knows what issues we will have. Hell look at how many folks were hard bricked because of the emmc bug. And yeah team rejects pretty much came outta no where but a lot of what they are doing is simply themes (no offense). I'm not hating. I'm just curious is it that hard to develop for samsung devices? HTC has no problems look at all of their devs. Motorola phones have more devs than we do.
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It only looks like the developers are at a standstill because they have so much to work with. Source for ics and now leaks for jb, which way to go first?
We're all used to microwaved food and high speed downloads and jumping tweet topics. Meaningful work takes time, just ask anyone who ever used a shovel.

nthornton1990 said:
Well yeah ive seen the devs working on jellybean and i saw the fg20 leak but I don't trust it given the fact that it's meant for boost. And in terms of jellybean its just a port. Once we start getting the leaks for it who knows what issues we will have. Hell look at how many folks were hard bricked because of the emmc bug. And yeah team rejects pretty much came outta no where but a lot of what they are doing is simply themes (no offense). I'm not hating. I'm just curious is it that hard to develop for samsung devices? HTC has no problems look at all of their devs. Motorola phones have more devs than we do.
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(no offense) but i don't think you follow actual development. I don't normally respond to these threads... but, here we go.
a few things, there is a jelly bean port, yes. but there is also a build from source. as well as tons of activity towards CM10 (JB based incase you were unaware). I develop about 10 hours or more a day for this device (which I don't currently have), because I'm working (with TeamEpic) towards getting official CM device status. This entails a working source kernel, which is done, a new RIL, which is done, now, we are working on merging the kernel with the already official smdk4210 (sgs2, skyrocket, n7000, etc) kernel. once i can do that with minimal changes to the core of the kernel, then official status should be easy. official cm status means not only cm9 support and nightlies from them, but cm10 when it comes along..
just because you don't see development, doesnt mean its not there, you just don't know where to look, and probably wouldnt recognize it you found it.. we developers have a way of not letting things out in the open until WE are ready... i have a ton of projects, but very few release threads.. for a reason.
development is not at a standstill, catering to you is...

development is not at a standstill, catering to you is..
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Thank you Chris41G for ALL the work you do. And thanks to all the others here too! I know how much it takes to get something even close to right. Let alone 'good' as you all tend to do when you do release. It's so hard when you've got twenty other things to do too to 'dev for free' as it were: Like actually work in the real world and take care of family and personal business it's just amazing how much the devs here give.
It's the quiet diligent and hard work (most very much unseen and unrewarding; monitarily anyways) from people like you and the others that give us the opportunity to use and see some great stuff.
I'll just say hat's off and thanks to you'all.

This wasn't me speaking negatively about you or the other devs. I really was asking if it is difficult working on samsung devices. I'm sure you guys put in a lot of work to get the roms/kernels working as smooth as possible. And are working towards better things. I appreciate everything you all do.
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nthornton1990 said:
This wasn't me speaking negatively about you or the other devs. I really was asking if it is difficult working on samsung devices. I'm sure you guys put in a lot of work to get the roms/kernels working as smooth as possible. And are working towards better things. I appreciate everything you all do.
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What you were saying is that you don't see much development. But the truth is that you just don't "see" it. There's a ton of development going on... you just gotta know where to look. And like chris41g said, the JB ROMs aren't all ports. There are 3 different developers working on JB right now... maybe some are ports, but at least sbrissen's is from source.

nthornton1990 said:
Is it just me or has our roms come to a bit of a stand still? Is it because samsungs are hard to develop for, or is it something else?i know ot took quite some time for the infuse to get a good base of devs but i left att before that happened.
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It's just you
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You all are missing the primary point to my post... Are samsung devices more difficult to develop for than say HTC or Motorola?
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Depends on the type of development you're referring to..themeing and winzip dev are equal across manufacturers. Kernel and source based development is usually better on flagship devices, particularly those with unlocked bootloaders.. regardless of manufacturer. GSM devices generally have a larger development base, due to a much larger user base, and a lot more common devices.
I prefer developing on a Samsung device. The only android device I own that isn't a Samsung is my nexus 7
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chris41g said:
Depends on the type of development you're referring to..themeing and winzip dev are equal across manufacturers. Kernel and source based development is usually better on flagship devices, particularly those with unlocked bootloaders.. regardless of manufacturer. GSM devices generally have a larger development base, due to a much larger user base, and a lot more common devices.
I prefer developing on a Samsung device. The only android device I own that isn't a Samsung is my nexus 7
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Thank you for your answer and again I wasn't meaning to sound like I was bashing just curious. Now with everything that is going on with JB I am seeing the development in progress and im getting excited. One cause it's jellybean and two because I can actually see the progress.
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Do you like aosp?

I just got a sgs2.. and well the aosp game is kinda ridiculous on this device... props to the devs who's provided the options they were able to on this device but where are the rest of the roms at?
expect to see some more aosp comin from me here in the next month or so
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JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS I MEANT NO DISRESPECT AT ALL.. I EVEN CREDITED THE DEVS WGO BROUGHT SOME GREAT ROMS TO THIS DEVICE.. I just want people to know I'm here to bring more to the table.. I'm guessing there is a major hurdle to overcome to bring aosp to this device since I'm not seeing a lot of it.. but I'm up for the task.. and I'll simply let my work speak for itself..
If you have an issue bring it to my attention but please dont harass me for stating that I wanna contribute to this device.. I don't want a bad rep at all and I hope you all will enjoy the work I produce

Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.

clide whit said:
Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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CM9 WITH FI03 modem gives me awesome speeds, stabilty, and battery.

clide whit said:
Only complaint on AOSP roms is that data speeds don't seem to be up to par compared to stock Touchwiz. Hopefully once Samsung releases the latest ICS source things get better since FI03 fixed the slow 4g speeds that haunted previous ICS builds.
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3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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daniel4653 said:
3g speeds are the same on aosp and touchwiz. Its 4g that's different. I would suggest sbrissens build.
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Everyones different though, just for me I tried them all (ran AOSP roms for the last 3-4 months), 3g seems a lot better on Twizz especially at work where it's a very low signal area. And 4g is no contest between the two.

So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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Mattix724 said:
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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Ya I noticed that too mattix. Thank you and all devs for our aosp roms and cm and aokp.
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Vanilla Android is okay, but I far prefer Cyanogenmod and the variants based off it.
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Mattix724 said:
So since my post mysteriously vanished... I'll sum it up for those that missed it.
Our devs are working hard to get us official cm status, we have many aosp options to choose from already, we have many more roms coming with all the work chris41g is putting into development for our device.
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I deleted your post due to it being very rude and flaming another member. It was reported and it was removed. I will continue to do this if I see fit. On another note if you are producing or friends are producing roms then I'd suggest you let you works speak for themselves and not sit here and continue to act the way I have seen in this thread.
With that I will be locking this thread and ask that another like it not be made again

Thank you papa smurf.. no pun intended
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unlocked after talking to evol4g. everyone please reread the op

justlovejoy said:
I dont release half of my roms because I focus more on one but show me a sprint device with more recent aosp than us besides the flagships that are basically included in aosp to begin with. think sprint will let you exchange your device for one with a community you can respect for a few months til you're ready. Maybe including some aosp options will provide somewhat a better understanding of ur purpose for this thread.
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Evo 4g, evo3d, epic 4g ect ect...
I respect you as a fellow dev. I'm actually using your ROM right now.. I'm a hardcore aosp guy and I was just expecting a device with a lot more options coming from the last two outdated phones I was on..
I was expecting to see some kind of positive feedback to see how interested people were in seeing more aosp not people trippin the EFF out.. I have a feeling that this is gonna be like the og evo threads all over again.. everyone's on such a defensive stand point!
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I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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Mattix724 said:
I want to apologize for my first post earlier, I just woke up after passing out watching a movie and I took this thread as an insult to our developers.
Yes, I did go a little overboard with what I said. I know that this does not change what I said. I hope to see what you can bring to the table.
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I didn't even see what you said but no harm no foul.. I didn't mean to insult anyone I even made sure to throw them some kudos I just had a feeling either aosp wasn't hot on this device or that it was hard AF to bring over
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justlovejoy said:
Are you Building from A Source or In A Kitchen?
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Building from source
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evol4g said:
Building from source
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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You should see if you can work alongside sbrissen. JB aosp/cm10/aokp/PA are all pretty stable just a few kinks here and there sbrissen has done a FANTASTIC JOB ON JB! Just throwing some ideas your way
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I second that
Sbrissen has produced some of the memorable stuff during last year and a halk for various devices

I'm not sure what you mean by not enough AOSP roms. Every major one has been released for our device and theyre all pretty stable.
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[Q] [REQ ROM PORT] This is a CM10 plus S Pen support ROM we NEED IT!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996038
Above is the link to the 7100 ROM it looks amazing.... What does it take to make this flash-able onto our T Mobile devices... If it doesn't include a radio couldn't we just flash it? I am too scared to flash and try...its less scary to post a new thread ask you to try...haha. If a devo could shed some light or a brave soul could "test" it that would be great.

RamboDroid said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996038
Above is the link to the 7100 ROM it looks amazing.... What does it take to make this flash-able onto our T Mobile devices... If it doesn't include a radio couldn't we just flash it? I am too scared to flash and try...its less scary to post a new thread ask you to try...haha. If a devo could shed some light or a brave soul could "test" it that would be great.
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You can flash it. If you want to lose your radio. Unfortunately even if the 7100 rom does not include radio we have significant differences in our hardware that causes the radio not to work. Most likely something in the ril or kernel I believe (I could be wrong about the reasons). We dont have an AOSP kernel for the 7105 or tmo version.

Thank you sir... man, I really want that ROM. Was using XquiziT's ROM but the was having a couple problems with it and now the future for it looks bleak. (What I liked so much was the AOSP parts added in) Going to give Saurom a go now I guess.

Try cmenards stuff its very good. Or thst ptrme guy he is for real.
Stay away from animalmo and virus stuff...no good
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ssCISengineer said:
Try cmenards stuff its very good. Or thst ptrme guy he is for real.
Stay away from animalmo and virus stuff...no good
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Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/

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Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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I did the same exact thing!!
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brashmadcap said:
Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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WHAT ABOUT ME?! do you remeber how they treated me! I remember how they did you too and a few other guys that have a little sense. But you know what it taught me....it showed me who actually has some brains here.
Its funny how things turn around huh ? We were the hated ones!
Guess what we are now?
The anti-virus
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ssCISengineer said:
WHAT ABOUT ME?! do you remeber how they treated me! I remember how they did you too and a few other guys that have a little sense. But you know what it taught me....it showed me who actually has some brains here.
Its funny how things turn around huh ? We were the hated ones!
Guess what we are now?
The anti-virus
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Lol anti-virus that's a good one
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Boy i sure hope we get a aosp rom like that. Why is their development so far ahead of us?

The international variant always gets devs quicker than us variants. you gotta realize its available to more people than the us variant. but we will catch up dont worry

truthkillszz said:
The international variant always gets devs quicker than us variants. you gotta realize its available to more people than the us variant. but we will catch up dont worry
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I am TRUSTING you!!! Don't let me down.... LOL (Ref: "..but we will catch up..")

we need some devs solely working on what needs to be done for porting from one device to another. the fact that the ROM even functions on our device without modification should be a decent indicator of how close we are.
look in the US SGS3 section, 4 variants all with small differences and porting roms between those 4 is a piece of cake.
if someone could make a stand alone CWM.zip that we flash after a N7100 ROM that gave us back the radio it would be perfect. then we could just run any N7100 rom we wanted, no porting needed.

crazy talk said:
we need some devs solely working on what needs to be done for porting from one device to another. the fact that the ROM even functions on our device without modification should be a decent indicator of how close we are.
look in the US SGS3 section, 4 variants all with small differences and porting roms between those 4 is a piece of cake.
if someone could make a stand alone CWM.zip that we flash after a N7100 ROM that gave us back the radio it would be perfect. then we could just run any N7100 rom we wanted, no porting needed.
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well as much as i love the note 2 if we don't get any aosp love soon ill probably swap devices with my wife. at least her sg3 has cm10/aokp. again not complaining, i just hope development picks up. i was thinking about getting a nexus 4 to tide me over but i hate lg. if anything i still hope the note 2 see's android 4.2.

I am curious. I have had CM/AOKP for years with my other phones. With this one seems a lot of the features I really love are here. What do you feel is missing from TW that AOKP/CM gives you. I am not a fan of TW colors but overall it is good (and I xan theme colors away). Only thing I really miss from AOKP is the wigets popup from nav bar.

Aosp is lighter and for me runs better.

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Aosp is lighter and for me runs better.
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I would agree on most older phones....this one I have not had any slowdowns. ....that I did not cause (changing files in system causes FCs sometimes lol)
Im not saying options are bad or that I would not flash AOSP but just wondering why people feel they need it.
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Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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Avatiach said:
Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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I second the motion for USB mass storage functions. Maybe wi-fi direct or other technology will supersede it, but it would be nice to have the capabilities meantime.

Avatiach said:
Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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This I can understand I really wish google made ums/mass storage an option. I understand why they went with ums but options are always nice.
Reasons why I think they went UMS
1) ability to keep sdcard mounted while connected to computer
2) ability to mount /sdcard on /data/media making the internal sdcard the same as the internal data memory
3) most people people use windows
4) the option to turn it on/off may confise some people.
The only one I disagree with is number 4. Stupidd people will find a way to be stupid no matter how much you coddle them.
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[Q] Yet another what's the best rom thread: ICS and stable?

Greetings everyone,
I would like to start off by apologizing for bothering you folks with yet another "what's the best ROM for having X and doing Y" thread, although I felt that after searching I had a rather specific criteria, which I'm hoping someone may be able to address.
I have been using Virtuous Affinity for awhile now, and frankly I'm starting to feel old It seems like ICS has been out forever while I'm still on gingerbread. I am a little unclear on what the official status is of ICS support though; I thought I remembered hearing some talk about HTC potentially having an ICS based update in the works, although past that I know nothing. Browsing around, I'm a little discouraged by some of the known issues ICS roms may have; no camera support, broken audio/bluetooth, things like that.
What I would optimally like to have is a fully functioning ICS ROM. Stable, good performance, nice on the battery, etc. etc. UI wise, I have become accustomed to HTC's Sense UI, but even then I'm very foggy on what the differences are between their major versions (I've been hearing of 2.0 and 3.0). To be honest though, I wouldn't mind trying a new UI. I've liked the one Samsung puts on their Galaxy SIII.
Above all, stability is my goal. I'm not too comfortable with the trailblazing "nightly" builds and testing ROMs; having a working phone is pretty important to me. Now you might say, "Well, why even root to begin with?" Okay, I like to experiment a little bit
But I digress. What is there in the wonderful and magical world of ROMs?
P.S. I think it would be really useful if there was a sticky going something like "State of the ROM", which pulls together a list of ROMs and highlights their features and issues in an easy to compare manner (so a step up from the currently stickied ROM compilation thread)

Right now chillybean's paranoidPAC
And preludedrew's Evervolv I can recommend
Viper and MIUI are both ICS and have everything working so far
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Another vote for Evervolv it is 4.2.2 JB and everything works great except video camera. PAC is also good but it is only 4.1.2 afaik

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Another vote for Evervolv it is 4.2.2 JB and everything works great except video camera. PAC is also good but it is only 4.1.2 afaik
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MoonMaster345 said:
Right now chillybean's paranoidPAC
And preludedrew's Evervolv I can recommend
Viper and MIUI are both ICS and have everything working so far
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Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I suppose I might want to give Evervolv a shot (Wifi is fixed I hope?) although I'm a little unclear about installing it. Most OPs post a tutorial for flashing ROMs, and while I would feel a little more comfortable flashing Evervolv on my own, it seems like there a new hoops you have to jump through for flashing ICS/JB roms. Could anyone guide me through the steps?

If you are rooted and have installed a custom recovery, go ahead and download the ROM of your choice, then install it from the recovery using install zip from SD card, then install the correct Google apps whether 4.2 gapps or 4.1 gapps
After that you restart and wait for the room to boot.
I highly recommend installing crossbreeder after the first boot, and then you are done!!!
If you want concider v6 supercharging your phone or what i used NOS
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tgp1994 said:
Greetings everyone,
I would like to start off by apologizing for bothering you folks with yet another "what's the best ROM for having X and doing Y" thread, although I felt that after searching I had a rather specific criteria, which I'm hoping someone may be able to address.
I have been using Virtuous Affinity for awhile now, and frankly I'm starting to feel old It seems like ICS has been out forever while I'm still on gingerbread. I am a little unclear on what the official status is of ICS support though; I thought I remembered hearing some talk about HTC potentially having an ICS based update in the works, although past that I know nothing. Browsing around, I'm a little discouraged by some of the known issues ICS roms may have; no camera support, broken audio/bluetooth, things like that.
What I would optimally like to have is a fully functioning ICS ROM. Stable, good performance, nice on the battery, etc. etc. UI wise, I have become accustomed to HTC's Sense UI, but even then I'm very foggy on what the differences are between their major versions (I've been hearing of 2.0 and 3.0). To be honest though, I wouldn't mind trying a new UI. I've liked the one Samsung puts on their Galaxy SIII.
Above all, stability is my goal. I'm not too comfortable with the trailblazing "nightly" builds and testing ROMs; having a working phone is pretty important to me. Now you might say, "Well, why even root to begin with?" Okay, I like to experiment a little bit
But I digress. What is there in the wonderful and magical world of ROMs?
P.S. I think it would be really useful if there was a sticky going something like "State of the ROM", which pulls together a list of ROMs and highlights their features and issues in an easy to compare manner (so a step up from the currently stickied ROM compilation thread)
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Why would you start by apologizing. You are acknowledging that this is redundant. Read the threads that are already there. You aren't asking anything new. And even if you were, you could ask in an existing thread. And if the rom doesn't give specific instructions it means you flash it the same way as any other. Read the op in the thread for each rom and try usually state what works and doesn't.
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Never seperate I think you should be mod for the inc2 threads. You're always laying down the law.
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Jasonp0 said:
Never seperate I think you should be mod for the inc2 threads. You're always laying down the law.
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I'm not trying to be a butt head. I'm still learning too. But if you already know the question has been asked (and answered) multiple times... Read the answers that are there.
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I think you might be misunderstanding my OP... Yes, I am aware that the general form of the question has been asked, although I wanted to see how the community felt about the priorities I put forth in looking for a ROM (hence why I later suggested that a sticky stacking the ROMs against each other with their features and flops would be useful). I realize now that a lot of the ICS roms don't exactly meet what I was looking for anyways, and that I would have to take some relatively larger risks. Alas, I am going forth with trying one of the suggested ones.
And I believe asking in another thread would be considered hijacking by most forums? I see it's not explicitly mentioned in the rules, although I would expect people to keep questions to their own threads as a matter of courtesy.

I sometimes forget people can't hear the tone my tone of voice when I type. I meant laying down the law in a good way.
To the OP. Perhaps you would like to work on your suggested project of comparing the roms and once then we can all add our input to your list?

Jasonp0 said:
I sometimes forget people can't hear the tone my tone of voice when I type. I meant laying down the law in a good way.
To the OP. Perhaps you would like to work on your suggested project of comparing the roms and once then we can all add our input to your list?
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I didn't take it negatively. And your suggestion is spot on with what I was about to reply. Something my pastor says when people come to him with new ministry ideas, "that sounds great, I'm putting you in charge of that committee." Usually people want stuff done but want someone else to do it.
People don't generally make those threads because like this one they get redundant. The features are listed in the rom thread. Questions pertaining to the rom are asked in that thread. If someone wants to make a thread like you suggest that's fine, but what happens is someone comes in and instead of reading the rom thread they start asking questions in the new thread that have been answered already and the op constantly has to refer people to go read that thread.
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evervolv
The latest evervolv jellybean build has been working great for me. Wifi sometimes doesn't seem to toggle on and off as well as it should, but it works well enough.

Solution has been found for best ROM...its called TRIAL AND ERROR
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The camera on any jb Rom is glitchy. Also the video playback on jb is pretty bad too.. viper Rom is my fav
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firespitta said:
The camera on any jb Rom is glitchy. Also the video playback on jb is pretty bad too.. viper Rom is my fav
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The camera on aosp isn't as good as sense in my opinion anyway. I just never find myself using the sense launcher and therefore the sense widgets anyway, so I generally stick to aosp.
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What about speed? I love JB and ICS, but can't deal with lag, need working Wifi and Tethering, and no longer have tons of time to flash over and over. Got a newborn, in school full time and still working full time. :silly:

TheAtheistReverend said:
What about speed? I love JB and ICS, but can't deal with lag, need working Wifi and Tethering, and no longer have tons of time to flash over and over. Got a newborn, in school full time and still working full time. :silly:
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What brought you out of the wood work? Haven't heard much out of you in a while and suddenly you are everywhere. Doing well I hope.
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NeverSeparate said:
What brought you out of the wood work? Haven't heard much out of you in a while and suddenly you are everywhere. Doing well I hope.
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Haha, I guess my brain hit critical mass with all that's going on, and I had to get back to my roots been running cm7/miui gingerbread nand backups for reliability with the new baby, but I'm an addict and need to run something new, and I can't afford a new device
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Chilly's PAC build has been running great and fast. I installed crossbreeder and it got even better. The dev is also did a file swap on his phone.
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