Can I temporarily root my phone using Visionary or z4root and uninstall some of the Sprint official apps that I don't need like Amazon MP3 and Sprint Navigation and then unroot my phone?
I would just like to remove some of the official apps, modify my phone's hosts file with adfree and then go back to being unrooted. Can this cause problems? Has anyone done this?
Well I personally haven't done it, but I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work. Though I believe adfree will stop working after you unroot, and rebooting gets rid of the root.
I'm aware that the adfree app itself will no longer work but will the changes it makes to the host file be permanent?
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I see that it works on the international version, however will it cause problems with my tmobile note 2?
Also, rooting is supposed to delete all of your apps?? Is there a way to get them back besides paying for titanium back up?
Another question I have is if another software update comes out, will I have to re root or how does that work? thanks :good:
Note_2 said:
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I see that it works on the international version, however will it cause problems with my tmobile note 2?
Also, rooting is supposed to delete all of your apps?? Is there a way to get them back besides paying for titanium back up?
Another question I have is if another software update comes out, will I have to re root or how does that work? thanks :good:
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Just use the toolkit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720 to root.
Rooting won't delete your apps... flashing ROM's will, then you can use TB to get them back.
You could unroot to get OTA update, then re-root... only takes a few minutes.
keeping apps and rooting
kozmo21 said:
Just use the toolkit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720 to root.
Rooting won't delete your apps... flashing ROM's will, then you can use TB to get them back.
You could unroot to get OTA update, then re-root... only takes a few minutes.
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The toolkit can also BACKUP YOUR APPS WITHOUT ROOT!!!! i've used it for backing up my apps a million times, especially for a facotry reset and some of those games i cant get my progress back. so i found this toolbox, and it backs the apps up without root perfectly, even if you flash to a different rom!
I want to know if I will forever lose the ability to install stock updates once I root my device. Can I "unroot" it in the future to seamlessly install stock updates? I don't want to mess with this too much as I want to rely on it for notes.
Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
sputnik767 said:
Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
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If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
litetaker said:
If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
litetaker said:
Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9krlhjzy1mmjsp/2013-10-10 16.50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
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I don't have an answer for you unfortunately as my use of s note is very basic. I hope someone else can answer your questions.
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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litetaker said:
I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
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What did you do?
CASz said:
Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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I don't know what the ToolKit does or what else you used it to do or what else you did with the system after rooting, but just plain root does not alter the system. Even apps like Adfree that modify the hosts file don't cause the system to be altered. If you remove system APKs though, that will do it. Like I said, I am still rooted despite all of the updates that I received. And I do not temp unroot prior to searching for updates, I temp unroot once the update is already downloaded.
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What did you do?
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My concern was how to obtain a custom background for the notes in S-note. I did it using the "change background" feature but I did so with the "memo" template. And the memo template doesn't have certain features like inserting images, audio memo etc. Given that I am new to Samsung and touchwiz I was unaware about this. I fixed this "problem" by putting my custom background on one of the other templates...
The only other thing I need root for is for removing Ads. BUT, thankfully there is the "Adblockplus" android app on their website that allows me to do this WITHOUT root! :highfive: On Android, nothing is impossible!
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I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
thx
athosk said:
I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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When that happened to me, I couldn't even use Kies to recover so I used the ToolKit and triangle away to get a stock ROM on it.
I have the same problem. As far as I know I've only done a standard root, but OTA says the device has been modified and Kies says my firmware version doesn't support upgrading. Obviously something has modified something
As I'm in Australia we probably won't get a 4.2.2 upgrade anyway so at the moment I wouldn't have anything to upgrade to even if I could...
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CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you first use supersu option to unroot you can can get ota. Been there done that.
There is a post on this forum somewhere. Can't remember where, but it can be done if you follow the instruction in the post.
Do a search of the forums to find it. It's there!
if i root my D850, and ONLY FREEZE apps with SuperSU, and run Rom Toolbox only for wake lock control, and SD Maid for cleaning. i should be able to still receive OTA updates easily. if my thinking is correct im not actually removing any files and both apps have buttons to easily reverse what i've done.....
Would my thinking be correct?????
Unfortunatly not. As soon as the device is rooted, you can't make OTA updates.
But you can unroot it easily by using PC Suite
oh cool, so if i do what i was thinking then un freeze and reset the wake locks then do this unroot i should be good to go for android L when it comes?
Or would it be better just to wait? i dont see LG being high on the list of fast updated, especially via att
or cant i take the update straight from PC Suite instead and just forget about OTA or will i get the same failure regardless?
danw84 said:
Unfortunatly not. As soon as the device is rooted, you can't make OTA updates.
But you can unroot it easily by using PC Suite
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strange, i am rooted with PD and can still receive OTA
either way it sounds like it may be worth it to go ahead and root. as long as i dont go too far like i did on my s4 i think i should be alright. im not really gonna change anything anyway, i just want a bit more control of what does what and when.
thanks guys.
So I got my phone today and rooted it directly. When I was browsing through the apps, I saw it has an update but it didn't let me install it because the phone was rooted. So, I had to go back to stock rom with a kdz file wiping everything, which seems to be the latest rom right now. I'm thinking about if i should root or not right now. Will I have to wipe everything again when the phone gets another update? Are you all in this situation or do i not know something correctly?
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
If you want to use apps like g3 tweaksbox, titanium backup etc, you will need root! I think you can do so much more when your Phone is rooted, so i would root it immediately!
homer285 said:
Some how I was able to install latest ota with root and also nothing was wiped.
Im not 100% sure but I think you can unroot with SuperSU then ota should go through but I may be wrong.
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I also took an OTA for my F460S while rooted and it worked. My phone also is fine (it didn't die, crash or kill itself). When I get my next OTA I'll upload a video to show that it does work for some odd reason (only for a few people that I have seen). The benefits of rooting outweigh the drawbacks. If you root your phone, than you should be comfortable flashing a KDZ to restore it.
OTA updates often modify existing pre-installed apps, otherwise known as bloatware, so they check to be sure those targets are present and unmodified. If you have rooted but not deleted or removed or frozen any such apps, your system will pass that OTA test.
Some OTA's also look for su being installed, and hiding su can fool that, depending...
Sometimes the OTA is just mean altogether, for your protection.
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