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Ok so I haven't seen that many reviews on the Rogers version of Samsung galaxy S2 LTE (not the HD from korea). Right now I debating between which one I should pick up. I had a Samsung S1 (i9000m from Bell) and I've always loved it. I love modding phones (ie custom ROM and other stuff). I plan on doing on these as well. The pros for S2 LTE is that: it is LTE compatible, 8mp back 2mp front camera, slight better processor (though I doubt there will be a big difference in performance).
Wheres the Nexus pros is that it is HD and has ICS, slightly better battery life, and of course being nexus, first in line for updates. The screen is also slightly bigger. It just sucks that the LTE from rogers isn't HD like the korean counterpart.
I do live in a LTE enabled zone so I will be able to utilize it (6GB data plan). Any thought on what phone is better? I've went in and tested both out and I honestly can't decide. I love the screen on the nexus but also the camera + LTE on the S2 balances out.
Deviatorz said:
First off I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum, MODs please move if it is.
Ok so I haven't seen that many reviews on the Rogers version of Samsung galaxy S2 LTE (not the HD from korea). Right now I debating between which one I should pick up. I had a Samsung S1 (i9000m from Bell) and I've always loved it. I love modding phones (ie custom ROM and other stuff). I plan on doing on these as well. The pros for S2 LTE is that: it is LTE compatible, 8mp back 2mp front camera, slight better processor (though I doubt there will be a big difference in performance).
Wheres the Nexus pros is that it is HD and has ICS, slightly better battery life, and of course being nexus, first in line for updates. The screen is also slightly bigger. It just sucks that the LTE from rogers isn't HD like the korean counterpart.
I do live in a LTE enabled zone so I will be able to utilize it (6GB data plan). Any thought on what phone is better? I've went in and tested both out and I honestly can't decide. I love the screen on the nexus but also the camera + LTE on the S2 balances out.
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Personally I'd go with the Nexus because the processor is almost up to par with the Exynos in the GSII vs the GSII LTE has a Qualcomm Snapdragon, which for day to day tasks is good, but GPU performance is nowhere near the Mali 400 in the Exynos.
AT&T has the Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD which is pretty much the Korean GSII with a 4-button layout. It sounds exactly like what you're looking for.
Had the at&t galaxy s2 lte and took it back. Qualcomm snapdragon sucks compared to the omap in fhe nexus, but had to use it for lte.
Nexus is so much more fluid day to day i would not look twice at the lte unless you really need limited lte .
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
Deviatorz said:
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
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It supports 4G on both GSM & LTE variants of the phone.
Deviatorz said:
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
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It is an HSPA+ device. Which is the faster 3G on AT&T (like "4G"). It is not LTE on AT&T.
zephiK said:
It supports 4G on both GSM & LTE variants of the phone.
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Ehhh. It supports HSPA+ on the GSM version. and it supports LTE on the CDMA version.
martonikaj said:
It is an HSPA+ device. Which is the faster 3G on AT&T (like "4G"). It is not LTE on AT&T.
Ehhh. It supports HSPA+ on the GSM version. and it supports LTE on the CDMA version.
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In USA, AT&T and T-Mobile markets HSPA+ as 4G.
LTE is marketed as 4G.
Therefore, the GSM & LTE both supports 4G.
I don't believe it supports Tmo's 42mbps network, however. Or does it?
zephiK said:
In USA, AT&T and T-Mobile markets HSPA+ as 4G.
LTE is marketed as 4G.
Therefore, the GSM & LTE both supports 4G.
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Yes very true, but considering OP is comparing to a 4G LTE device on AT&T, it is a good idea to make the distinction that the Galaxy Nexus is HSPA+ and the Skyrocket (SGSII LTE) is an LTE phone.
adrynalyne said:
I don't believe it supports Tmo's 42mbps network, however. Or does it?
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It is only 21mbps. Anything over 14.4mbps T-Mobile calls 4G, however.
T-Mobile only has a couple 42mbps phones I think. The SGSII and the HTC Amaze 4G are the only 2 that come to mind.
The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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Skyrocket does not support t-mobile's HSPA+ if it did there would be no need for the different variants. If you use 4g get the t989. You can buy it from me if you want i will give you a better deal than your getting i bet
Actually IT does, but how much are you selling yours for?
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The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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You would need to flash a tmobile radio to get 4g.
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I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
8Fishes said:
I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
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No. It doesn't. Stop spreading misinformation.
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8Fishes said:
I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
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You need to do a bit more research. It does not have the exynos chip set it has the same chip set the t-mobile variant has.
Id get the Skyrocket. Just 'cuz if you ever switch to ATT, you'll get LTE.
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death1246 said:
You need to do a bit more research. It does not have the exynos chip set it has the same chip set the t-mobile variant has.
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OH that's right.. I was thinking of the i777.. and not i727. Stupid numbering. I guess there's no reason to get it other than LTE bands? It should have that last I heard.. don't think that's a deal breaker.
I am going to switch to T-Mobile in 2 months so was wondering if it will work with T-Mobile's HSPA + Network.
AFAIK It won't, but the frequenceies are listed on both carrier's sites so you can have a look at that.
No.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...nt-4g-hspa-phone-will-not-be-covered-by-both/
Couldn't we just flash the t-mobile radio like with the t-mobile sgs2 and the skyrocket from at&t?
It should be possible. Check out the specs of the two: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4803
This is EXACTLY the same as Tmobile S2 and ATT S2 LTE: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4303
Some awesome dev needs to do some radio hacking to make the two phones interchangeable as they did for the S2/S2 LTE.
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No.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...nt-4g-hspa-phone-will-not-be-covered-by-both/
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that article is over a year old. there are many devices that work on both carriers via 4g. looking at the frequencies on att version it should work with a radio flash.
There's hope then
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57460125-94/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/
same hardware in all US S3's so theoretically even a sprint or verizon one can be flashed if its just going to be software limitations
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57460125-94/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/
same hardware in all US S3's so theoretically even a sprint or verizon one can be flashed if its just going to be software limitations
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The CDMA and TDMA versions are different and not compatible. A sprint or Verizon model will not work on GSM networks due to the different protocols used. AFAIK no phone is universally portable amongst US carriers.
Verizon/Sprint/US Cellular phones are 100% different in terms of radio hardware and software.
It is possible the T-Mobile/AT&T ones will likely work together, but why? Also something to consider is the AT&T Note on T-Mobile gets HORRIBLE battery life.
malaeum said:
The CDMA and TDMA versions are different and not compatible. A sprint or Verizon model will not work on GSM networks due to the different protocols used. AFAIK no phone is universally portable amongst US carriers.
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You sure about this? Verizon model will have a sim card and has GSM support. Verizon will probably block T-Mobile and ATT with all of their GSM/devices.
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You sure about this? Verizon model will have a sim card and has GSM support. Verizon will probably block T-Mobile and ATT with all of their GSM/devices.
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The SIM card is for LTE. The only way to get 3G on a CDMA device would be through CDMA.
joshnichols189 said:
The SIM card is for LTE. The only way to get 3G on a CDMA device would be through CDMA.
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Not exactly true... After a "hack" to my VZW Moto Bionic and dropping in an ATT sim from a demo Galaxy Note, we got working H+ on the Bionic.
Even after hack, the Bionic doesn't appear to support T-Mobile's 1700mhz so I get EDGE only when I use the T-Mo SIM out of my Galaxy S2.
But I wont have a Verizon Galaxy S3 to play with to see how that works.
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Not exactly true... After a "hack" to my VZW Moto Bionic and dropping in an ATT sim from a demo Galaxy Note, we got working H+ on the Bionic.
Even after hack, the Bionic doesn't appear to support T-Mobile's 1700mhz so I get EDGE only when I use the T-Mo SIM out of my Galaxy S2.
But I wont have a Verizon Galaxy S3 to play with to see how that works.
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Interesting, have not heard of that one but I will take your word for it. Either way, most phones do not have AWS bands for T-Mobile unless they are T-Mobile phones.
Assuming the Verizon version has GSM 3G radios in it (what they call a "Global" phone) I don't see why even it could be flashed if someone could get the radio hacked.
For example, my current phone, the Droid 2 Global, normally runs on Verizon's CMDA bands. Being a global phone, it has GSM radios in it which can be activated if you get an unlock code from Verizon (not difficult).
Here's the catch- the baseband locks the phone so that it does not work on AT&T and T-Mobile's frequency bands! However, some clever hackers at TeamBlackHat were able to hack the baseband to allow it to work on US carriers as well.
tl;dr if the CDMA versions have GSM radios it should be feasible to make them work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
ExodusC said:
Assuming the Verizon version has GSM 3G radios in it (what they call a "Global" phone) I don't see why even it could be flashed if someone could get the radio hacked.
For example, my current phone, the Droid 2 Global, normally runs on Verizon's CMDA bands. Being a global phone, it has GSM radios in it which can be activated if you get an unlock code from Verizon (not difficult).
Here's the catch- the baseband locks the phone so that it does not work on AT&T and T-Mobile's frequency bands! However, some clever hackers at TeamBlackHat were able to hack the baseband to allow it to work on US carriers as well.
tl;dr if the CDMA versions have GSM radios it should be feasible to make them work on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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So basically, all world phones can literally be made into world phones? Nice!
SaHiLzZ said:
It should be possible. Check out the specs of the two: gsmarena /compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4803
This is EXACTLY the same as Tmobile S2 and ATT S2 LTE: gsmarena /compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4303
Some awesome dev needs to do some radio hacking to make the two phones interchangeable as they did for the S2/S2 LTE.
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You raise a really good point.
joshnichols189 said:
Verizon/Sprint/US Cellular phones are 100% different in terms of radio hardware and software.
It is possible the T-Mobile/AT&T ones will likely work together, but why? Also something to consider is the AT&T Note on T-Mobile gets HORRIBLE battery life.
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Does the S2 and S2 LTE (skyrocket) succumb to bad battery life like the note does when their networks are interchanged?
guies Is it possible to make GS3 to run on CDMA network as some guies in this forum could hack the Verizon GS3 and have made it able to run on GSM network?
has any one tried before? if any one have an idea we can share the info in order to do that so. If you can notice once you use this code *#*#4636#*#* you can find CDMA only and other types of CDMA there and I heard that S GS3 has the ability to run both CDMA and GSM.
Let's give it a try
CDMA is an actual built in internal radio. Not every GS3 has it, only the CDMA ones do (Sprint and Verizon). They are global phones, and by that means, its only for GSM networks. I can't make a solely strict AT&T made phone, into a Verizon CDMA phone. That's all hardware
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iAndropple said:
CDMA is an actual built in internal radio. Not every GS3 has it, only the CDMA ones do (Sprint and Verizon). They are global phones, and by that means, its only for GSM networks. I can't make a solely strict AT&T made phone, into a Verizon CDMA phone. That's all hardware
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But then all US GS3's share the same hardware or SOC's...so by this running a T999 on the CDMA network should be possible. But then why would you? Tmobile already offers the best plans covering the best network out of all the others?
All personal opinion on the last part
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could you do a favor for me? just give me a software that can amend the radio band as I hardly want to try. From what I understood through reading some info in some forums, Galaxy S3 not like the older phones and it can run both GSM and CDMA and I hope that's right. I just need some help to try this in my international GS3. Let's try we are not going to lose any thing..........
suhailstar said:
could you do a favor for me? just give me a software that can amend the radio band as I hardly want to try. From what I understood through reading some info in some forums, Galaxy S3 not like the older phones and it can run both GSM and CDMA and I hope that's right. I just need some help to try this in my international GS3. Let's try we are not going to lose any thing..........
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See now thats where you lose it. The international GS3 has a totally different SOC than the US variants, therefore you will not be able to run for any US CDMA network. You can flash any radio you want...but that's only if you want a $700 paperweight ofcourse
The us variants are WCDMA or CDMA 2000 as I want to try it in my country where the type is CDMA 2000?
so you mean if I flashed a radio that is not compatible with my GS3 it will damage it???? is there any app that can control the radio without out a risk???
have you had a look to this thread Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314 I mean a way like this or similar to it???
babymatteo said:
But then all US GS3's share the same hardware or SOC's...so by this running a T999 on the CDMA network should be possible. But then why would you? Tmobile already offers the best plans covering the best network out of all the others?
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No they don't. The T-999 uses an MSM8260a chip, for one. There is no CDMA hardware in the GSM versions.
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suhailstar said:
The us variants are WCDMA or CDMA 2000 as I want to try it in my country where the type is CDMA 2000?
so you mean if I flashed a radio that is not compatible with my GS3 it will damage it???? is there any app that can control the radio without out a risk???
have you had a look to this thread Set up Verizon Galaxy S3 as World GSM Phone (confirmed working) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314 I mean a way like this or similar to it???
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No. An international S3 is completely different from a US GSM S3. Neither has CDMA hardware in them. At all.
joshnichols189 said:
No they don't. The T-999 uses an MSM8260a chip, for one.
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I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
babymatteo said:
I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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The T-999 uses an MSM8260a which is for all intents and purposes, an MSM8960 without LTE.
babymatteo said:
I thought all US S3's had the Q MSM8960?
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I think only ATT/VERIZON/SPRINT/USCC use MSM8960. T-mobile lacks LTE and went with MSM8260a.
So only the ATT GS3 SGH-I747 would possibly be capable of running on CDMA. The international i9300 would not work on CDMA no matter what.
It MAY be possible to make the Verizon SCH-i535/USCC SCH-R530U version work on both CDMA/GSM. Currently the CDMA i535 works on CDMA 800/1900, international gsm/wcdma 850/900/1800/1900 and domestic gsm 850/1900 but no HSPA+ yet.
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only the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions are possible candidates of doing both full gsm and cdma.
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The T-999 uses an MSM8260a which is for all intents and purposes, an MSM8960 without LTE.
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Can you point me to the right direction? Because everywhere i look it says that the T999 does indeed have the MSM8960
babymatteo said:
Can you point me to the right direction? Because everywhere i look it says that the T999 does indeed have the MSM8960
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30631797&postcount=3
the pdf he links has some good info. seems the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions all support both cdma/evdo and 850/900/1800/1900 GSM/WCDMA
autoprime said:
I think only ATT/VERIZON/SPRINT/USCC use MSM8960. T-mobile lacks LTE and went with MSM8260a.
So only the ATT GS3 SGH-I747 would possibly be capable of running on CDMA. The international i9300 would not work on CDMA no matter what.
It MAY be possible to make the Verizon SCH-i535/USCC SCH-R530U version work on both CDMA/GSM. Currently the CDMA i535 works on CDMA 800/1900, international gsm/wcdma 850/900/1800/1900 and domestic gsm 850/1900 but no HSPA+ yet.
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only the SCH-R530U, SCH-I535 and SGH-I747 versions are possible candidates of doing both full gsm and cdma.
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Keep in mind though that CDMA running on 800/1900 and GSM WCDMA running on 800/1900 are not the same thing.
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Keep in mind though that CDMA running on 800/1900 and GSM WCDMA running on 800/1900 are not the same thing.
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indeed.. but if the verizon version can do cdma 800/1900... as well as domestic gsm 850/1900..
and atts version obviously supports all of its own bands... they wouldnt have a different SOC between them both. so it seems its only possible for MSM8960 to support all... yet somehow locking out whats not used by the carrier.
Guys, even if the Verison S3 works on GSM, that doesn't mean T-Mobile's GSM will work on CDMA. It will not.
If car engine X from car A, fits and works decently well in car B, that DOES NOT mean that car engine Y from car B will fit and work on car A.
You can ask the same question ten different ways and you'll still have the same answer; the T999 will and cannot work on CDMA. Yes, the US S3s have the same hardware, EXCEPT radios.
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Guys, even if the Verison S3 works on GSM, that doesn't mean T-Mobile's GSM will work on CDMA. It will not.
If car engine X from car A, fits and works decently well in car B, that DOES NOT mean that car engine Y from car B will fit and work on car A.
You can ask the same question ten different ways and you'll still have the same answer; the T999 will and cannot work on CDMA. Yes, the US S3s have the same hardware, EXCEPT radios.
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We've already accepted this... we're looking at ATT/VZW/USCC only. VZW/USCC will have the best chance of doing both.
guise, what are uscc and vzw? Are those US variants? Currently, l'm looking for the gs3 hardware to make sure it's somehow able to run Cdma. What should i look for in it's hardware ?
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guise, what are uscc and vzw? Are those US variants? Currently, l'm looking for the gs3 hardware to make sure it's somehow able to run Cdma. What should i look for in it's hardware ?
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Yes those are US variants.
have you achieved any progress yet?
Hi guys,
I'm planning to get an att note 2. However I have a question: if the note 2 is unlocked this way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34995743&posted=1#post34995743, what kind of connection will it get from tmobile? 3G? 4G?
Does anyone have an experience?
Thanks,
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Hi guys,
I'm planning to get an att note 2. However I have a question: if the note 2 is unlocked this way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34995743&posted=1#post34995743, what kind of connection will it get from tmobile? 3G? 4G?
Does anyone have an experience?
Thanks,
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I`m not sure on the bands but I do know the T-Mobile Version works on AT&T And I would assume it would be the same vice versa but need someone to confirm. Also T-mobile does not have 4G they have 3G/HSPA+
hyelton said:
I`m not sure on the bands but I do know the T-Mobile Version works on AT&T And I would assume it would be the same vice versa but need someone to confirm. Also T-mobile does not have 4G they have 3G/HSPA+
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Thanks hyelton. Why not making note 2 penta band? It already costs 600 to 700, I think it's reasonable to ask this functionality. I think samsung is one of the companies who likes to make as many models as possible.
In case you weren't aware, as I wasn't at first, there is a forum dedicated to AT&T galaxy note 2. The threads there may help, as I know I've seen tmobile mentioned a lot in thread topics.
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zhengw said:
Thanks hyelton. Why not making note 2 penta band? It already costs 600 to 700, I think it's reasonable to ask this functionality. I think samsung is one of the companies who likes to make as many models as possible.
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i think the carriers have a lot to say about that too. It seems they all want their versions to be different. I'm really surprised that Samsung was able to pull off giving the carriers virtually identical S3's and Notes. Seems like Samsung is growing some Apple sized balls.
T-Mobile's thirteen Android phones, the myTouch 4G, T-Mobile G2 and the Samsung Vibrant are the most impressive. If high speed 4G connectivity is important the myTouch 4G is brilliant. If you need a physical keyboard go with the G2. And if size is important the Samsung Vibrant is a neat little phone.