Hola, noob here with a problem.
My rogers captivate glide was behaving perfectly fine one night when I decided to download some large files over wifi. It was also plugged in for charging and I was using some app (forgot the name) to prevent my screen from turning off so I won't lose my wifi connection. I left it like that and went to sleep. Upon waking up, my phone was hotttt , the screen still on but it has faded into a greenish color with scan lines. It was unresponsive and I had to pull the battery. Ever since then, my phone would last no more than a few minutes before freezing and fading into scan lines. I thought it was a battery issue, so I got new batteries but that didn't help one bit. I even flashed the kernel and still no help. I did resets, recovery, wiped caches, took out sd card and sims, stock builts. Nothing worked. I can't connect the phone to the computer or wall charger either. The screen would instantly freeze and fades out upon plugging in the micro usb cord.
Have anyone had similar problems? Did I fried the soc? I don't think it's a problem with the screen since it was perfectly responsive the few minutes it worked. This noob needs helppp.
I've posted a video on youtube but I couldn't link to it, but if you search "captivate glide problem" you'll see a video showing the freezing problem I have. I'm from the US also, so I don't know if I could get samsung to fix it through warranty since the phone is Canadian.
Well I downloaded Modern Combat 3 and that was like about 1Gb and the screen turn off because I didn't touch it while it downloaded, and wifi kept going so I'm not sure why it didn't stay on for you
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Idk about the phone so much , but i am computer technician and it sounds like you overheated it, what we might call "burned it up".
The screen symptoms you have described are a dead giveaway, especially the lines
If this was a laptop, I would be sending it off for a reflow .
Typically, the circuit board gets so hot, the solder on the ships melts enough for a tiny bit of separation. This requires a "reflow ", where specialized equipment is used to repair the solder connections.
First, you should to a factory reset , then try to do a warranty claim. (unless u have insurance from your cellular provider, then u might check with that)
*edit, sorry, I missed the warranty part the first time I read ur post*
The next option would be to check with the guys at www.mylaptopisbroke.com
Email them, ask if they concur with my diagnosis and if they can help.
I have been dealing with them for about two years and always been highly satisfied. (They are in NY, I am in TN. I have sent literally dozens of devices to them)
If none of those 3 options work out for you, start looking for a new phone.
Sorry :-/
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Sorry, but I agree with the previous poster, sounds like a hardware issue. Start the warranty process, can't know if it's gonna work til you try it.
Not to try to close the barn door after the horses have bolted, but in case you get into a similar situation with your new phone, there's an easier and safer way. When you're in the WiFi screen hit the menu button and under advanced settings there is the option to keep WiFi on during sleep. Also, as you have found out, be careful with any apps that directly control the hardware.
Had a very similar scenario as the OP described. Went to bed with it plugged in and streaming DI FM in high quality, woke up in the middle of the night by burning myself on the metal back plate. Unplugged it and pulled the battery, when I woke up in the morning after a rather worrisome night sleep I discovered my WIFI would not work unless I was within a foot of the router otherwise it wouldn't get any signal. I assumed the devices internals were damaged and that is what caused the problem, glad to know someone else aside from me has had a similar issue. Best bet would be trying to get a replacement through the warranty unless you have some type of protection plan through your carrier.
I see, thanks guys for the inputs. I had a feeling it's a goner. I can't do the warranty since it's rogers and I'm from the U.S.; bought it off Newegg unlocked without a warranty. So I guess I'm screwed.
Had the same thing happened to me. Had to send it to sammy to get fixed the had to replace the whole board
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Idk about the phone so much , but i am computer technician and it sounds like you overheated it, what we might call "burned it up".
The screen symptoms you have described are a dead giveaway, especially the lines
If this was a laptop, I would be sending it off for a reflow .
Typically, the circuit board gets so hot, the solder on the ships melts enough for a tiny bit of separation. This requires a "reflow ", where specialized equipment is used to repair the solder connections.
First, you should to a factory reset , then try to do a warranty claim. (unless u have insurance from your cellular provider, then u might check with that)
*edit, sorry, I missed the warranty part the first time I read ur post*
The next option would be to check with the guys at mylaptopisbroke
Email them, ask if they concur with my diagnosis and if they can help.
I have been dealing with them for about two years and always been highly satisfied. (They are in NY, I am in TN. I have sent literally dozens of devices to them)
If none of those 3 options work out for you, start looking for a new phone.
Sorry :-/
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I've contacted mylaptopisbroke and they told me that phone repairs have been discontinued until midwinter 2013.
Is there anywhere I could buy a new soc??
Try mobiletechvideos.com or phonedoctors.com
I've heard of reflowing oneself by putting it in the oven at 550 degrees for 10 minutes or something. FWIW.
Not sure I'd want to do it myself, not having better information, but perhaps there's something out there some googling will reveal.
I've look at the sites, no captivate glide stuff. Guess captivate glide is not that popular a model. I've read about reflowing, but too chicken to try. I did took took the phone apart but saw that the LED is on the board itself and couldn't be detached; it's housed in some soft rubber feely box. I had a feeling it would melt in the oven.
in the options you can change it to keep wifi on all the time.. i keep mine on all day.
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in the options you can change it to keep wifi on all the time.. i keep mine on all day.
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Yeah... I know that now... too late though.. ahah
What have you done with this?
Have you turned it on recently and found it still works?
I have a similar problem and other threads have suggested it's a software problem that might be fixed by installing a new ROM via odin
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My screen randomly freezes, with Android still running in the background. It also has multicolored "snow" static-like crap on the screen instead of an image half of the time, especially when unlocking the screen. Happens when the kernel hasn't even finished booting as well. I also get visual artifacts appearing on screen, which would be expected if my GPU was OC'd, but it's not. Tried stock, didn't help, so I know it's a hardware problem.
I suspect it might be the slider ribbon, or the screen itself, but I want to know what it most likely is before trying to order parts and spending the money. If it's being caused by the GPU, I'm just gonna pick up a new part-time job and buy a new phone altogether..
Any ideas?
Same problem, same suspicions. I'm taking mine apart and will advise.
Got it back together... no change. Might just be the GPU.
Sometimes while the screen is glitching, moving the slider gets it to work. I'm thinking the ribbon cable in the slider might be damaged on the inside.
I'm gonna try replacing it since the part is $11 on Ebay.
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It's kernel problems. Lock and unlock.
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It's kernel problems. Lock and unlock.
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It's not the kernel. I've tried every gsm kernel available, wiped the boot partition with fastboot, wiped everything, installed stock. Doesn't make any difference. 100% a hardware problem.
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It's not the kernel. I've tried every gsm kernel available, wiped the boot partition with fastboot, wiped everything, installed stock. Doesn't make any difference. 100% a hardware problem.
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I'm wondering if the actual flex cable itself. Since I just derped and sat on my phone and broke the digitizer, I'm just gonna get the whole screen assembly (Since it's only about 5$ cheaper). It could be a while though. I can't order it till next tuesday.
I used to have similar problems on my g2 until I replaced the flex cable. But then again, the image seems to freeze and occasionally glitch, so I'm wondering if there's a faulty solder connection somewhere since shaking/beating/banging on the phone seems to also fix it sometimes.
I managed to dig up four old threads where multiple people had the exact same problems as me, replaced the flex cable, then had zero issues afterwards.
I was just reading them an hour ago. 100% sure the cable is the problem for my phone.
Now it's just a waiting game, first waiting until I have some cash, then waiting for the e-cheque to clear, then the shipment.. I'm gonna have to wait at least a month unless somebody goes and ships one to my door instantly.. Which obviously ain't gonna happen as I'm not a developer and just someone who helps ppl with their phones.
I'm gonna save up and buy a new phone, then give this one to my 11 year old niece after it's repaired. By the time I have enough cash for one of those new HTC models, the cable should be here.
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Well if you do it before me, please let me know!! And I'll be sure to report back! I'll order the screen assembly next tuesday.
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It's not the kernel. I've tried every gsm kernel available, wiped the boot partition with fastboot, wiped everything, installed stock. Doesn't make any difference. 100% a hardware problem.
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tl;dr original post. GPU problems.
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Before buying a new phone try flashing new or older firmware via wotanserver
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Clearly you didn't read the thread. That had already been done.
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tl;dr original post. GPU problems.
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It's not the GPU. If you're too damn lazy to read a couple of paragraphs, don't bother replying.
Sorry to resurrect this...
Sorry to resurrect this out of the blue, but I am also having a similar problem.
I have not rooted my R800at, but noticed first that the screen would sometimes stretch or skew into an absurdly distorted shape, only to snap back to normal after unlocking the screen.
Then, a few days ago, I also started to get this colorized snow pattern on my screen. I was wondering if you managed to fix your phone by ordering the cable? Also, not to sound too much like a pathetic n00b, is there a .doc somewhere (Or PDF) showing how to disassemble the phone to replace the cable, if that indeed fixed the problem?
I am going to see if AT&T will warranty the phone (Less than a year old, more than 30 days, not more than 90) but I am unsure if it is going to cost me an arm and a leg to do so.
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Sorry to resurrect this out of the blue, but I am also having a similar problem.
I have not rooted my R800at, but noticed first that the screen would sometimes stretch or skew into an absurdly distorted shape, only to snap back to normal after unlocking the screen.
Then, a few days ago, I also started to get this colorized snow pattern on my screen. I was wondering if you managed to fix your phone by ordering the cable? Also, not to sound too much like a pathetic n00b, is there a .doc somewhere (Or PDF) showing how to disassemble the phone to replace the cable, if that indeed fixed the problem?
I am going to see if AT&T will warranty the phone (Less than a year old, more than 30 days, not more than 90) but I am unsure if it is going to cost me an arm and a leg to do so.
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The phone comes with a one-year manufacturer warranty. Since you aren't rooted or unlocked, send it in for repair. If you open up the phone to fix the cable yourself you'll end voiding the warranty permanently. If something else breaks later down the road that's harder to fix, you're gonna need it.
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hey everyone well after reach tru this thread i think my flex cable is the problem as well
a while back when i unlock the fone the screen just use to be all jumpy (but i dont think dat was related to the flec cable problem cuz after changing wallpaper it stopped)
but like ah few weeks after i changed my rom, if i didn't slide out my gampad my phone wouldn't unlock, sometimes when i turn it off(the phone vibrates as usual but the screen nevr comes on) and then now like its completely gone i'm getting nothing from the screen anymore
so i'm guessing its the flex cable
and i think thats the reason for my front camera to stop wrking as well
FIX!
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My screen randomly freezes, with Android still running in the background. It also has multicolored "snow" static-like crap on the screen instead of an image half of the time, especially when unlocking the screen. Happens when the kernel hasn't even finished booting as well. I also get visual artifacts appearing on screen, which would be expected if my GPU was OC'd, but it's not. Tried stock, didn't help, so I know it's a hardware problem.
I suspect it might be the slider ribbon, or the screen itself, but I want to know what it most likely is before trying to order parts and spending the money. If it's being caused by the GPU, I'm just gonna pick up a new part-time job and buy a new phone altogether..
Any ideas?
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Same problem.
Answer is change the screen ribbon 3.50$ on ebay with shipping.:laugh:
ispeedca said:
Same problem.
Answer is change the screen ribbon 3.50$ on ebay with shipping.:laugh:
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That's correct. You all guys need to replace the ribbon cable/flex cable and the issue will be gone.
Last night, I spilled a little bit of soda at the top of my phone. I got the phone away, and dried it before anything else really happened. However, I wake up today and my phone isn't charging. No matter what I do, it won't charge. I have confirmed multiple chargers that they work, and that it is the phone. My phone is about to die, and I can't charge it. I've tried cleaning it out with a tissue(nothing else at the moment to work with), and nothing I do works.
So, after a battery pull, it's charging again, but I'm afraid it might happen. Can anyone give me any suggestions on what might've happened?
You didn't put it in rice?
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You didn't put it in rice?
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I quickly checked it over for damage, I got it out quick enough before it really got into the phone, so that wasn't necessary. It was sticky, not wet.
This is why I don't drink soda.
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Damage to any electrical aplliance due to liquid can happen only when there is an electrical current running thru it (i.e. when the phone is on). The extent of the damage, if any, varies and it not quite possible for you to know what exactly went wrong just because you know something spilled on the top/bottom/back etc. since it just seeps thru and wiring at one part of the phone can affect a different part of the phone.
Therefore, to tell you exactly what happened you'd have to open up the phone and have a look inside (NOT recommended, obviously).
Keep in mind there's a chance it's just a bug, as you mentioned you simply rebooted it and all was good... don't know how likely that is unless you've been really messing around with custom ROMs and kernels, over or underclocking it, and even then I wouldn't bet on it..
My suggestions? You can buy an external charger if that's the only problem that's showed up, just in case it happens again. There are a lot of eBay sellers out there, many people on the forums here have recommended a seller called shimshop (if you have the GSM version).
If the problem persists, try sending it claiming your warranty. I know that spilling water voids the warranty, but keep in mind that a) it's possible that the spillage wasn't the cause of the problem, and b) they may not know what caused the problem, either. When I was a kid I was tinkering around with my GBA and literally blew it's battery connectors (smoke and all and here were clear burn marks on the inside). Wouldn't turn on after that... sent it in to Nintendo simply stating that it wouldn't turn on and as I expected, they didn't even bother looking into what was really wrong with it and sent back a new one.
Unethical? Yup. But I was a panicked little boy who just wanted to play Golden Sun... and if they can't see anything that has voided the warranty, than the warranty is still there.
Worse case scenario, they send it back saying that your warranty hasn't covered it due to [insert reason].
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Hi all, I'm pretty lost here. My Note II (N7100) suddenly won't charge. Earlier today it charged just fine. I've only ever run stock with root on it. It's not the charger, it's not the cable. I've tried many of both, all of which worked before, none of which work now. I flashed back to stock recovery and did a factory reset, and the problem persists.
When I plug it into a charger while off, briefly a gray battery screen with what looks like a stationary 'wait spinner' will pop up and then the screen will turn back off again. I know the USB port is not totally FUBARed, because I can flash it with heimdall in Linux. It shows up in lsusb when in the bootloader, but not otherwise. The port is pretty much spotless, especially compared with that on my GNex, which still works fine.
I've tried leaving the battery out for an hour, holding the power button, etc. It almost seems like a problem that could be solved by discharging some capacitors, but battery pulls always solved those on my Galaxy Nexus.
Any thoughts on other things I can try?
I can't even figure out how to contact Samsung support in case this is somehow a warranty/hardware issue. At least on their US site the N7100 isn't even an option in the pulldowns they want me to go through.
After some calls to Samsung USA and Canada, I gave up. Apparently the phone is from the UAE, for which Samsung USA has no phone number, and their repair centers won't touch it if it's international. This is really stupid and I plan to write to Samsung about it. It had only been three weeks since I ordered it, so I am returning it to the Amazon seller for a refund. I'll let them deal with their supplier in UAE I guess. I hate to do that, but it seems to be a hardware problem and I have no other recourse at this point.
I cant really help here but i wanted to let you know i had the same problem with a white note 2 from Carphone Warehouse in the UK, just stopped charging after owning the phone for 2 days (i had also only rooted and running stock rom).
Carphone warehouse replaced the handset for me and havent had a problem with the new one so far but its made me take extra care when plugging or unplugging the usb cable ( i use Airdroid for file transfers now). I guess there must be a defect with a limited few usb ports on the note 2.
I thought it might be a 3rd party usb cable to blame (i use a blackberry usb cable at work but ive stopped that now and only use the official Samsung cable).
Sorry i cant help just wanted to share my experiences, hope you get it sorted, good luck!
Thanks for chiming in Steve, good to know I'm not the only one. I saw another post on here like that too, maybe it was yours? There was no discussion. The strange thing is ODIN worked just fine. Maybe a loose connection only on one/both of the power pins?
Nah it wasn't me mate, I had just put it down to me being heavy handed and thought nothing more of it till I saw your post.
I've seen a post in the Jellybam thread today about the charging being down to software but I don't know how true this is as i've yet to check the facts.
Did you manage to get it replaced? I remember it was the worst feeling in the world when the realization hit that my phone wouldn't charge.
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mynamesteve said:
Did you manage to get it replaced? I remember it was the worst feeling in the world when the realization hit that my phone wouldn't charge.
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Yeah I just invoked the Amazon.com return policy, sent it back for a refund, and ordered another one. It was supposed to arrive today, but apparently UPS had some kind of mechanical issue and now it's delayed until tomorrow. I just need it to get here before my next month's Verizon plan bills so I can cancel before paying another month.
Sorry to drag up an old thread but this has just happened to me, EXACTLY the same as OP.
I've reset it, wiped everything, re-flashed latest stock firmware. Tried 3 different cables and two different chargers.
Pretty sure the battery is good because if I take it out of the phone and charge it on the dock, it works fine. If I then put the battery back into the phone, the phones works in every way except it wont charge
I have most of my digital life on this thing, I am so screwed without it. Look like its a warranty repair job then? Ive had the phone about 3 months from Phones 4U :crying:
Looks like hardware issue..
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Looks like hardware issue..
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Happened to mine to T-mobile version. Never dropped it, never got it wet, only 1.5 months old.
WTF? Seriously?
Behavior:
Charges sometimes.
Charge sometimes stops at 70% or less.
Screen sensitivity screws up sometimes.
Data constantly being transmitted whether WiFi or cell network.
Never dropped.
Never wet.
Never harshly impacted.
Never rooted.
Tried factory reset.
Tried pulling battery.
Tried different chargers and cables.
Wondering if the trident aegis case put too much pressure on the charger cable by pushing it sideways with the flap.
Any ideas?
Hardware problem.
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After some calls to Samsung USA and Canada, I gave up. Apparently the phone is from the UAE, for which Samsung USA has no phone number, and their repair centers won't touch it if it's international. This is really stupid and I plan to write to Samsung about it. It had only been three weeks since I ordered it, so I am returning it to the Amazon seller for a refund. I'll let them deal with their supplier in UAE I guess. I hate to do that, but it seems to be a hardware problem and I have no other recourse at this point.
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Check in the box, and if you have an EROS Group sticker on it that means it's covered under warranty here in Dubai, UAE as they are the main distributor here for Samsung products.
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This happened to me yesterday after spilling tea on it. I took the device apart as per this video, checked the connectors and reassembled it. Voila, the charger is working again. Obviously I take no responsibility etc etc.
My Samsung Galaxy Note 2 wont charge
I have also had this problem where my galaxy note 2 wont charge. I have tried all the chargers i have used successfully in the past and none of them will charge it now. I had the problem some weeks ago and now it has happened again. I only purchased the phone in January 2013. It is very frustrating. I have never dropped my phone or damaged it in any way what so ever. I have no idea what the problem could be but i will be taking it back to Telstra as i need it sorted out.
Same problem here - is this a generic problem with the Note 2??
I always put my phone on charge overnight , woke up yesterday and it hadn't charged. Swapped batteries - no problem - then put original battery back in, hey presto, charging!
But since then both batteries have run out and I couldn't get either to take any charge. Got it plugged in now and just like other people I've got a static charging ring showing, And no power.
Bought an external charger to try and get round this, but has anyone come up with a proper solution??
-StuPC
Strange...
a mate of mine just mentioned to me today that his note was charging strangely recently, apparantly he took an air gun (on low setting) to the charging port to blast out any miniscule dust n stuff and that fixed it!
Seems they're very sensitive and the smallest thing can make it act strange
PavPev said:
a mate of mine just mentioned to me today that his note was charging strangely recently, apparantly he took an air gun (on low setting) to the charging port to blast out any miniscule dust n stuff and that fixed it!
Seems they're very sensitive and the smallest thing can make it act strange
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Thanks for the tip, Pavpev - I gave it a try but still nothing. Perhaps my phone is super-sensitive!
It happne to my note 2 as well
I had to give it for repair to service center now i just want to know what triggered it and how to prevent it..................
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a mate of mine just mentioned to me today that his note was charging strangely recently, apparantly he took an air gun (on low setting) to the charging port to blast out any miniscule dust n stuff and that fixed it!
Seems they're very sensitive and the smallest thing can make it act strange
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Can confirm this is the case! Tried everything, but the blowing air into the USB socket worked :good:
I'm a little concerned about my current predicament.
A month ago I bought a rooted Galaxy Note II second hand. I have had no problems with it until Saturday morning.
On Saturday I plugged it in - it was flat because the battery had ran out of juice from the previous night. I left it off and plugged in. I returned not long after to a slight burning smell, and the phone was roasting hot.
I could turn it on, but it hasn't charged, still showing 1% and cutting out immediately. Any time you plug in within seconds, it overheats.
It has burned in one spot, and burned the battery cover as well.
Obviously I am not impressed, it could have burned the place down if I'd left it on overnight.
However, the device has been rooted, and can be turned on but it will damage it more if you do. It has had a theme applied to it that could only be done with a rooted phone so it is blatantly obvious.
I've put in a support call with Samsung who are going to send out a bag to send it off to them in. I would have preferred to send them an unrooted phone, but obviously not practical and I don't know anyone else with a Note 2. I also don't want to buy replacement components in case I make it worse or damage those.
Anyone faced a similar predicament, and what was done about it?
Well, in this case, a melted phone is very dangerous, they should or must send you a new one just to not report it to the police or the media!
I think the problem was in the battery, it's the only component that can get so hot and even it can explode in some conditions.
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My concern is they try to say that it was the fact the phone was rooted that caused it to overheat... although it was switched off at the time.
Don't worry I won't let it go without a fight, but am unsure about what rights I may or may not have.
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My concern is they try to say that it was the fact the phone was rooted that caused it to overheat... although it was switched off at the time.
Don't worry I won't let it go without a fight, but am unsure about what rights I may or may not have.
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Try to run triangle away, before you return it.
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Phone is totally flat, and will only turn on when the battery is connected, and it is connected to the mains. It will overheat with a minute.
In Norway, and I assume in the EU too, they have to prove that there is a connection between the broken phone and the fact that it is rooted to void warranty. No worries then if there's similar legislature in your country.
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What if you charge it with usb cable connected to a computer? Does it still overheat?
Alternatively, do you know any1 with a note 2 whos battery you can borrow?
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Try buying a spare battery. And then try triangle away. Put the faulty battery back in the phone and send it to Samsung.
It's way cheaper than having to pay for the full phone repair.
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Well, in this case, a melted phone is very dangerous, they should or must send you a new one just to not report it to the police or the media!
I think the problem was in the battery, it's the only component that can get so hot and even it can explode in some conditions.
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My concern is they try to say that it was the fact the phone was rooted that caused it to overheat... although it was switched off at the time.
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This thread's funny. A second hand phone received or bought rooted which could have been using a different kernel, been OC'd, or had any of a laundry list of mods done to it overheats. Since none of that can be ruled out, why is there any reason to alert the media or expect Samsung to be responsible for something that's most likely not a defect but customer induced damage? With millions sold I'd expect more reports of phone's melting if there was some sort of common or repeatable fault. Best of luck OP but your fate will be determined by Samsung's graciousness and not you claiming that a rooted second-hand device somehow combusted on its own having nothing to do with what you or the first owner did to it.
To be fair if it's not charging the battery at all and just overheating/melting the phone it sounds more like a hardware issue than a software one. Something in the charging circuit is screwed up by the sounds of it.
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My concern is they try to say that it was the fact the phone was rooted that caused it to overheat... although it was switched off at the time.
Don't worry I won't let it go without a fight, but am unsure about what rights I may or may not have.
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idk if this help, last time my S2 also got some issue so I go to SC and the guy there said that I voided my warranty coz I rooted it.
And that statement made me angry, so I said to him in angry tone: why the hell you say its illegal to root and voided my warranty becoz I root my phone. If that's illegal, why the hell Superuser/SuperSU/any root tools exist in Google Play and Google let it in there for a long time? I bought this phone by my money so I have right to install anything in play store.
Then they unable to say something and fix my phone rightaway and told me to be careful next time.
So, rooting isn't illegal, its in Google Play anyway.
ask yr friends or someone borrow a battery and reset the counter first
I don't know anyone with an N2 so I can't borrow a battery, I'd have to buy one.
I'll try plugging it just into the computer, I suppose with less power going in, it might not overheat. I've been reluctant to plug it back in.
Phone is running standard kernel, it was only rooted, with a replacement status bar added, and CWM installed. Nothing special.
Ideally, I would need to flash it back to standard though, so I'll need to find out the easiest / quickest way to do this, and, possibly, reset the counter.
I suppose its possible they will refuse to fix it. If I am, that is me massively out of pocket, and I won't be rooting anything ever again, even buying second hand is losing its appeal.
Heck, as I can't afford to replace it, I now may be stuck with this Nokia Lumia 800 I had to buy as an "emergency" phone, which is actually not a bad little machine in many respects (obviously tiny though).
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I'm a little concerned about my current predicament.
A month ago I bought a rooted Galaxy Note II second hand. I have had no problems with it until Saturday morning.
On Saturday I plugged it in - it was flat because the battery had ran out of juice from the previous night. I left it off and plugged in. I returned not long after to a slight burning smell, and the phone was roasting hot.
I could turn it on, but it hasn't charged, still showing 1% and cutting out immediately. Any time you plug in within seconds, it overheats.
It has burned in one spot, and burned the battery cover as well.
Obviously I am not impressed, it could have burned the place down if I'd left it on overnight.
However, the device has been rooted, and can be turned on but it will damage it more if you do. It has had a theme applied to it that could only be done with a rooted phone so it is blatantly obvious.
I've put in a support call with Samsung who are going to send out a bag to send it off to them in. I would have preferred to send them an unrooted phone, but obviously not practical and I don't know anyone else with a Note 2. I also don't want to buy replacement components in case I make it worse or damage those.
Anyone faced a similar predicament, and what was done about it?
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Given the near fatal consequences of a battery explosion you shouldnt have any problems Samsung will be much more interested in working out why it happened and avoiding any negative PR about their flagship handset.
However if they can proove that it was the root that caused the burn out (we all know thats not the likely reason) then they may reject the device and tell you it was all your fault. at that point take it to the media.
to me it sounds like the charging circuit has failed and instead of passing charge to the battery its built up in the circuit, mechanical failure can't see how a root would cause that. Were you using the sammy charger, cable and battery?
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To be fair if it's not charging the battery at all and just overheating/melting the phone it sounds more like a hardware issue than a software one. Something in the charging circuit is screwed up by the sounds of it.
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Ye that was my thought wonder if OP has original sammy cable and charger or was given a third party one?
Yes I did indeed use the original charger and cable (it looks original too, not like a knock off). In general, in the past, I've had issues using chargers mean't for other devices, usually just slow charging though rather than it blowing up.
The fact the phone was turned off when it was being charged suggests to me, like you say, that its a proper hardware fault.
We shall see. I'm waiting for the jiffy bag to send it back, it will be at least 2 weeks till I get it back (maybe longer now with Xmas coming up).
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My concern is they try to say that it was the fact the phone was rooted that caused it to overheat... although it was switched off at the time.
Don't worry I won't let it go without a fight, but am unsure about what rights I may or may not have.
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Take a picture of the burned note2 first, maybe you can use it as a "leverage" when the time comes. You know how burned phone have negative impact on products marketing.
A while back i used to "try" to root stuff. I sucked at it BAD. Anyway, I have a Galaxy Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) that I had rooted to a certain point (very superficial) and I just kept it the way it was, that way I could use Multi-window for any app. This morning I unplug my tab from the charger only to be disappointed that it will not turn on. Ive tried different power outlets, different cables, different base chargers, even the whole "power+vol_up+home" thing... nothing. I never updated the tab when Kitkat came through the pipeline. Im freaking out that a new major update automatically happened overnight or something. Im sorry to trouble you all, but does anyone have suggestions? Since it's rooted I can't take it to Samsung or Best Buy. Honestly if I could just get it back to stock, that would be awesome, but im more concerned about getting it to simply turn on. Any Ideas?
If your device is rooted you won't get an OTA update so that could not be the problem. You can try to unplug battery (mus open the device)"and see what happened. Maybe your battery is faulty or someting else.
K... I appreciate it Ill take a look. But, lets say I actually open it (without making things worse), how do I determine if the battery is in fact faulty? If it is, can I get a replacement? preferably an official samsung one.
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Scratch that. Sry, Im just always scared of doin stuff, so I always feel like I have to ask the question, but I'll look it up. Im confident at least this should be easy enough for me to do Thank you again.
The problem with this device is you cannot pull out the battery easily. Maybe after that steps it boots up again.
Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Wow, that suck. sorry for you man. For now, try to plug the tablet to a computer and while device manager opened and see if there is change. If the change say "qhsusb" or something along that line and not your model number . . . changing battery wont do anything because it's already hard bricked. if not, finger cross.
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What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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No. But sometimes after this step and reconnecting the battery the device boots up. Also a battery calibration is done.
I tried plugging in the tablet to the computer with the old battery and then without any battery. Neither one prompted anything in the device manager. Today I got the new battery (assuming its legit and in good condition) in the mail. I plugged it in, and nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the wall charger, nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the computer while running device manager, nothing.
I'm going assume that the new battery is dead and let it stay connected to the wall charger for 8+ hrs, and see if there are any changes.
I just really don't understand what the deal is and why this would randomly happen. Ive never had problems with the firmware or anything. I have felt like there was an issue with the battery being that it doesn't seem to be keeping much of a charge... but for it to just Hard Brick like this seems so out of the blue. Can anyone provide me with additional suggestions please?
Maybe I'll ask it this way...
Is there any way to test if the batteries are food? That way I can at least determine if the tablet is in fact hard bricked or just bad batteries.
Might not be what you want to hear, but if different cables, chargers and batteries don't work, then maybe there was a power surge overnight while the device was plugged into the wall that took out the device (I once lost a computer that way and now I only use surge suppressors (note that not all power bars are proper surge protectors! See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector ) that are UL 1449 certified with a low clamping voltage and high energy absorption rating as a minimum; the fancier ones can even tell you if your wall outlet has a grounding problem). Or your tablet's USB port is broken, but that doesn't make sense based on what you've said thus far. Or you're just super-unlucky and all of your replacement parts are also faulty (it could happen). Either way, I've got my fingers crossed for you!
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter
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In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
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Ill definitely be looking into this option in depth tomorrow, and deeply appreciate it. At least it's something. T_T I don't want my tablet going to electro grave. This sucks so bad. This has been a month from hell
First my printer decides its time to start printing crooked over a couple of months, getting so bad that it jams up a few weeks ago, requiring me to get a new printer, which has been a fiasco in and of itself that still hasnt been resolved. Ive gone through 4 printers in one week, all of them different model printers, all from HP, and each and every one of them defective.
Then my laptops video card tweaks out because of installing Splashtop Stream, which starts a domino effect requiring me to do a factory reset on the laptop.
Then my Tablet just decides to kill over.
Then my Microsoft Arc mouse decides it doesn't the want to wheel to work requiring me to purchase a new one, and when I receive it, the cover for the battery compartment is missing and the wheel click is defective. It took 2 and a half weeks to resolve
Then I get bronchitis.
all in less than a month.
Alright, ya... it's dead. Oh well. Here's me trying to make the most of it: are there any places that buy bricked tabs? I figure the parts have to have some sort of salvage value.... maybe.
You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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O_O That does suck!! Sry man.
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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I randomly bumped here and I'm no expert, but if your tablet's motherboard is indeed dead, I believe there is absolutely no way they can tell that the device got rooted at some point. You did not "hard brick" it, that's a whole other thing, or at least so I've learned in my not-very-long experience. "Hard brick" should be the result of flashing a kernel made some other device, which definitely is not your case. Moreover, that does not kill the motherboard, it just makes anything unbootable: it's a software problem, so it can actually be detected. You had a hardware failure that most likely completely wiped any proof that you have ever modified your device, so the only problem that you might have, I think, is them telling you that they take no responsibility for what your power outlet has done to the device, but they shouldn't be able to detect any modification that you have made. In my opinion technical support is worth trying.
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just thought Id let everyone know that I managed to get Samsung to compromise on the matter since the Tablet is only 5 months past warranty (1yr 5mnths since purchase). So, not much longer and hopefully Ill have a tablet that works yet again.