How can there NOT be a leak out there for our AT&T SGS3's that is JB 4.1.1 ?????
Come on people, I know someone out there has to have something up there sleeve they're not sharing ..
PLEASE
Share with us :fingers-crossed:
It does seem odd considering there has been two leaks on sammobile for Bell but yet nothing for AT&T....
For once Canada gets something first/cheaper/better!
They probably fired the person who was "leaking" them for at&t....
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Last I heard .. they have to get some sort of "permission" to release a leak !!!! Whatever the f*** that suppose to mean.
The Bell leaks work fine on AT&T phones.
I'm with you OP. Every time I check the forum I'm hoping to see a leaked thread for the att version. Hopefully soon
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charlie460 said:
The Bell leaks work fine on AT&T phones.
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Yes, I think people are forgetting they are the same device. And they can always just flash their AT&T modem if they want
Just curious (and may be a stupid question, I'm new to this) , why wait for this when there are custom JB roms?
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bigal1542 said:
Just curious (and may be a stupid question, I'm new to this) , why wait for this when there are custom JB roms?
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Because for some reason they think an att build would work better then a bell or Rogers one. When in reality its the same device minus the baseband and buildprop.
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Are some of the at&t wifi hotspots only open to at&t users? If so I imagine that wouldn't work on a different carrier's leak (unless the certs or whatever were copied).
Whenever I ran a Canadian leak based ROM on my Skyrocket, things like Google search would default to Google.ca, which was annoying. I probably could've fixed that but never got around to it.
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Whenever I ran a Canadian leak based ROM on my Skyrocket, things like Google search would default to Google.ca, which was annoying. I probably could've fixed that but never got around to it.
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Yes you're correct, that issue is easily fixable. A free app from the Play Store called MoreLocale 2 would have fixed that issue in 5 seconds.
is there a link to that bell OTA? And how exactly do we install it?
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For any of you who want to have your cake and eat it too, you can now flash the international N7105 firmware onto your AT&T branded i317!
What does this mean? It means that you can give AT&T the middle finger by having unlocked firmware with none of the restrictions and bloatware. By extension, this also means that you can benefit from the development going on for the international devices.
Finally, this also means that you can reap all those benefits without sacrificing LTE access in North America!
Now that this has been confirmed to work with the i317, I wonder if the T889 is next...
Check out the main thread over here.
This is nothing new.
Well known information.
NightHawkUndead said:
This is nothing new.
Well known information.
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News to me
Anyway this can help us with the n7100 roms?
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Jt004 said:
Anyway this can help us with the n7100 roms?
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Check this out
I'm confused now. Is there an international ROM we can just flash onto our at&t device?
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This is nothing new.
Well known information.
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news to me. Just got device a week ago. Was wondering why most mods were compatible.
Why do we have only 5 of the same roms in development section?
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I'm confused now. Is there an international ROM we can just flash onto our at&t device?
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We tried flashing the international N7105 firmware onto the i317 using Odin, but that didn't work. However, the procedure seems to be working if, instead of using Odin, you flash a re-packaged stock N7105 firmware using a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, just like flashing any other custom ROM. Once that's done, just flash the AT&T modem/kernel, and you're all set!
Unfortunately, there hasn't been much development for the N7105 yet. Root, CWM, deodexing and all the other basics are there, but that's all for the moment. Devs are still trying to work out N7100/N7105 inter-compatibility. N7100 firmware will flash to an N7105, but the modem won't work, so that's pretty useless, and that's what we're all trying to fix.
At least, in the mean time, you can enjoy a stock N7105 experience in North America without AT&T/Rogers sticking their fingers in the pie
Is the 7100 the non LTE version and 7105 LTE? If this allows us to get FM Radio on our North American Note 2s, I'm going to be very happy!
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Sword Fish said:
Is the 7100 the non LTE version and 7105 LTE? If this allows us to get FM Radio on our North American Note 2s, I'm going to be very happy!
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No, fm radio is built into the specific device
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
For any of you who want to have your cake and eat it too, you can now flash the international N7105 firmware onto your AT&T branded i317!
What does this mean? It means that you can give AT&T the middle finger by having unlocked firmware with none of the restrictions and bloatware. By extension, this also means that you can benefit from the development going on for the international devices.
Finally, this also means that you can reap all those benefits without sacrificing LTE access in North America!
Now that this has been confirmed to work with the i317, I wonder if the T889 is next...
Check out the main thread over here.
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Very nice.
Upon thinking about it. I believe there is a way to use this method to give us international firmware and also retain our NA CSC's so we keep carrier specific settings such as Wi-Fi access, Fast dormancy and the like too.
Currently working on it and will get back to people once I am finished.
Glad to see someone else was working on this as it was something I wanted to get around to messing with but have been busy poking into Bootloaders and dialer codes.
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No, fm radio is built into the specific device
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Agreed however, no one knows for sure it isn't present in our devices and that Samsung just removed the driver at the request of the greedy NA companies. They don't want us listening to something for free when they can force us to connect and use data. Maybe the driver is in the 7105 firmware...
My phone is rooted, what is so good/different about the international version?
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My phone is rooted, what is so good/different about the international version?
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Read this for the in-a-nutshell version.
Works great for me on my i317.
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I installed this on my At&t Note 2 its feels suoerfast and no At&t crap.
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dbzgod said:
Very nice.
Upon thinking about it. I believe there is a way to use this method to give us international firmware and also retain our NA CSC's so we keep carrier specific settings such as Wi-Fi access, Fast dormancy and the like too.
Currently working on it and will get back to people once I am finished.
Glad to see someone else was working on this as it was something I wanted to get around to messing with but have been busy poking into Bootloaders and dialer codes.
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Did what Miscom had done and got the latest GT-I7105 Unbranded firmware release LJ5, with this one I injected the Canadian CSC's and everything seems to be working except a few carrier apps that check for the proper model number they would force close on me.
Going over this firmware, seems okay but doesn't seem to be any better then the stock LJ2 that came with the phone.
My main hope with using an international firmware would be unlocked dialer codes, and I was correct in my testing, any carrier locked dialer codes are controller within the firmware + check what CSC you have as well.
Got some working that I couldn't before hand, however the main one that I wanted to use was the *#7465625# to view network lock status, it was one that I couldn't get working, but I believe that it wasn't working because my phone is already a factory unlocked one so to really know for sure I'd half to have one that is known to be locked.
Anyways, glad this experiment worked, I will definitely be looking at this again in the future, however I know that the Samsung Canada is planning on releasing an updated firmware for the phone at the same time or soon after the Canadian S3's get their Jelly Bean updated, and it is also rumored that they will be 4.1.2 as well. So with this possibility I will be going back to Bell's Stock firmware and see what we get in a few weeks.
ROM is up
Please visit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575 to download it.
News to me too
Now, I've got to convince my wife to let me have it for flashing.
Oh, does this mean you can do MultiView as well??
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dvdmkr said:
News to me too
Now, I've got to convince my wife to let me have it for flashing.
Oh, does this mean you can do MultiView as well??
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To my understanding, yes. I am downloading it now and will be flashing it shortly. I'm curious if the Wallet issues were NA specific to ATT as well? I should reread those threads to see what the problem was...
I stumbled across this article tonight, has anyone received an OTA update??
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4131...alaxy-s3-androidv4-1-2-jelly.htm#.UMWS-73nbFo
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Not yet but I'm thinking soon definitely before February
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AndreaCristiano said:
Not yet but I'm thinking soon definitely before February
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I think that could be right seeing as this is a tiny update in general.
Here we go again...
Please, don't create expectations or start rumours about possible ETA's.
You've seen it with the 4.1.1 update, carriers can hold up the process undefinitely if they feel like it no matter the "size" of the said update.
I read about this last night too. There's no way of knowing when or if we will ever see this officially. Just as European S3's got the multi-window already it's up to the carriers. I'm sure they'll find some way to get it in a custom rom on here when its out.
We'll probably have the Galaxy S4 before this update even arrives..
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What does this have to do with this thread???
Sounds interesting but I wouldn't get my hopes up for a release any time soon.
I'll go w/ my original guess of January 17th.
I'll go with my guess of A LONG TIME FROM NOW. Carriers are usually like hey, we just sent out an update a month ago, why send another one now? Let's wait for pigs to fly.
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I'll guess maybe sometime in summer
Never buying a carier branded phone again
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Curious whether this can be modified to work with our phone.
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Has this been dumped yet?
Nope
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Has this been dumped yet?
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So far, it would just be the international i9300 version in Poland or the UK.
Nothing for the i747 yet. You will still have to wait a few weeks for the leak.
I've been toying with the idea of changing the CSC on my phone to trick Samsung Kies to download it to my phone.
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So far, it would just be the international i9300 version in Poland or the UK.
Nothing for the i747 yet. You will still have to wait a few weeks for the leak.
I've been toying with the idea of changing the CSC on my phone to trick Samsung Kies to download it to my phone.
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Lol good luck with that. Might as well get the international version gs3 once you brick your phone.
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I'll be leaving it stock as is and patiently wait until the update is released.
I just want to know "when" it will be released so that I don't have to keep checking daily.
they just look like apps can't it extracted from international version and installed through recovery?
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they just look like apps can't it extracted from international version and installed through recovery?
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I believe it WILL work as you've said. The APK files themselves would be the universal part.
http://www.samsdroid.com/search/label/Samsung Android Firmware Download
You can download, and extract the files from above as you so desire.
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they just look like apps can't it extracted from international version and installed through recovery?
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it's much more complicated than just the APKs. you need the modified jar files as well, which will boot loop a Us Gs3. search for the GS2 tutorial on how to run multiwindow to see how complicated it really is. in theory, it is possible to modify the jellybean us GS3 files to get it all running on our phones. but, it will take some talent.
Does it not piss anyone else off that the Samsung galaxy s3 for AT&T still hasn't gotten 4.1.2 or even any news on it. The galaxy s2 even got the update for AT&T, so how is it not yet out for the s3.
It's very annoying indeed. However, there's plenty of custom touchwiz roms with 4.1.2 features and they're debloated.
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Domoo said:
It's very annoying indeed. However, there's plenty of custom touchwiz roms with 4.1.2 features and they're debloated.
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Not being from the US I can comment on ATT, they are probably making sure the N S A can still gather information on the general public......
rkant18 said:
Does it not p*** anyone else off that the Samsung galaxy s3 for AT&T still hasn't gotten 4.1.2 or even any news on it. The galaxy s2 even got the update for AT&T, so how is it not yet out for the s3.
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Yes it does.
Did you call, email, or contact them in any way to let them know of your displeasure?
They don't read these forums. If you're unhappy, you need to let THEM know. I did - and if enough paying customers threatened to go elsewhere, they'd pay more attention.
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Yes it does.
Did you call, email, or contact them in any way to let them know of your displeasure?
They don't read these forums. If you're unhappy, you need to let THEM know. I did - and if enough paying customers threatened to go elsewhere, they'd pay more attention.
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Yea I spoke to them, but they kept giving me the BS that they were waiting for bug fixes for the sgs4 to be fixed. Theyre 2 different devices, so why does that affect the s3's update?
One thing at a time,I guess. And if it bothers you that much, maybe look at the nexus line of phones
the only way i can sleep at night is hoping their just skipping str8 to 4.2.2
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/20...ly-bean-leaked-firmware-for-the-galaxy-s-iii/
waiting for this...
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Yea I spoke to them, but they kept giving me the BS that they were waiting for bug fixes for the sgs4 to be fixed. Theyre 2 different devices, so why does that affect the s3's update?
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Because they are more worried about getting new contracts...more profit!!!
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rkant18 said:
Yea I spoke to them, but they kept giving me the BS that they were waiting for bug fixes for the sgs4 to be fixed. Theyre 2 different devices, so why does that affect the s3's update?
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Because they probably only have one software team, and only work on one Samsung device (or just one device - period) at a time.
How to get the Samsung 4.1.2 update:
1. Root your phone with chainfire's CF autoroot method.
2. Install chainfire's app Mobile Odin from the play store.
3. Download the T Mobile T999 update from samsung-updates.com.
4. Flash everything from the update EXCEPT the modem.
Enjoy the 4.1.2 goodness...
Russ77 said:
How to get the Samsung 4.1.2 update:
1. Root your phone with chainfire's CF autoroot method.
2. Install chainfire's app Mobile Odin from the play store.
3. Download the T Mobile T999 update from samsung-updates.com.
4. Flash everything from the update EXCEPT the modem.
Enjoy the 4.1.2 goodness...
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You forgot 5. Install deTmobilized ROM made for ATT. The T-Mobile converted to a ATT ROM with MANY Extras...
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RockRatt said:
You forgot 5. Install deTmobilized ROM made for ATT. The T-Mobile converted to a ATT ROM with MANY Extras...
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Yeah, I've seen that one. My response was aimed toward the most "stock" experience. Not everyone wants deodexed/busybox/toggle mod/etc...
Personally I'm using the tmo rom, with the T-Mobile bloat uninstalled, Google keyboard, and aosp mail.
how to flash the system without the modem ? because the download rom is one part
I read some where yesterday the reason for the delay of the galaxy s3 and note update is because a new touchwiz is being developed and is supposed to bring us up to 4.2.2.. Time will tell there is alot of B.S. on the internet as we all know.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4775...ild-further-delays-samsung-s.htm#.Ubie_PnrzDQ
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I read some where yesterday the reason for the delay of the galaxy s3 and note update is because a new touchwiz is being developed and is supposed to bring us up to 4.2.2.. Time will tell there is alot of B.S. on the internet as we all know.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4775...ild-further-delays-samsung-s.htm#.Ubie_PnrzDQ
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Samsung released 4.1.2 to the carriers awhile back and all the carriers but AT&T have completed testing and pushed it out. The delay is entirely on AT&T's side at this point.
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Samsung released 4.1.2 to the carriers awhile back and all the carriers but AT&T have completed testing and pushed it out. The delay is entirely on AT&T's side at this point.
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Provide a little proof like I did? Like I said I don't believe most of the stuff on the Internet. Even with proof...
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Provide a little proof like I did? Like I said I don't believe most of the stuff on the Internet. Even with proof...
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Some guy that filed with BBB got that spewed back at him:
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Di...-S3-Premium/m-p/3500511/highlight/true#M44386
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how to flash the system without the modem ? because the download rom is one part
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mobile Odin gives you the option to clear the modem from the install. desktop Odin does not.
Let's just go straight to 4.2.2...
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I've been scanning the forums for the GS3 to see if anything were to come up for the LTE version of the GS3. Apologies if i missed it, but I had to ask.
The leaked schedule said it would be available 11/25, only to have the T999 get access to it, then the T999v got it. Where's ours?
Be happy you don't have troubles like the Verizon users have.
The LTE version is bricking phones so has been rolled back.
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Be happy you don't have troubles like the Verizon users have.
The LTE version is bricking phones so has been rolled back.
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I guess that's good. I wonder what the problem is with this. Something with the radio that didn't affect the T999 and v variants?
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I guess that's good. I wonder what the problem is with this. Something with the radio that didn't affect the T999 and v variants?
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No Clue. I see that as a poorly tested upgrade pushed out in a hurry.
If the 4.3 update is being pushed back for better testing and bug fixes then I'm all for that. If it's pushed back for particularly good reason, no improvements, and we still get bugs the others are having then I'll be kinda pissed.
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Thank Me Later said:
If the 4.3 update is being pushed back for better testing and bug fixes then I'm all for that. If it's pushed back for particularly good reason, no improvements, and we still get bugs the others are having then I'll be kinda pissed.
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Even the Regular T999 users who did get that update aren't thrilled either. So have no fear.
While browsing Samsungs website I happened to click on our Note 2 model i317 and under OS it says 4.3, my question is has been released already? Ive been testing the international 4.3 builds, I would love to test an official rooted deoxed version. I found the info here... http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I317ZWAATT#specs
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I haven't heard anything, This probably means that because Samsung gave At&t the update that it's just waiting for them to push it to us. Should be really soon, sprint already has theirs and I read that T-Mobilw just got theirs out
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Sprint's update is out, T-Mobile's is out, US Cellular's is out, Verizon's dropped today and we wait. Funny that AT&T was supposed to one of the earliest updates on the leaked list but we still wait. I just want it to get into the hands of the TW ROM teams, Ditto Note, Sky Note and Jedi so I can see what they do with it.
Yeah, my contract is up in January and I don't think I'm going to stick with AT&T. It seems like they really don't update their phones if they don't absolutely have to. =/
Thank God I am not with At&t and I am pretty sure this note will be the last phone I get that is At&t branded phone with how they are locking up their phones
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What is the latest version from AT&T? I am still on 4.1.2. If I am in a different country will I still get an update if AT&T releases on update? Every time I check for an update it always says that I have the latest update.
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I don't think that the update will be far behind the other carriers. At&t always waits till the last possible moment for anything. My guess is that it wont be an OTA but thru Kies which will suck cause my CPU just crashed on me the other day
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ProFresh4 said:
I don't think that the update will be far behind the other carriers. At&t always waits till the last possible moment for anything. My guess is that it wont be an OTA but thru Kies which will suck cause my CPU just crashed on me the other day
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Well as far as I can tell they're already the last carrier to push the update. The only question now is "WHEN?" (if ever, heh...)
As for Kies, I highly doubt it. Every other update was always OTA. Kies is just a convenience factor.
Refurbished units and warranty replacement devices reportedly have 4.3 loaded..
Of course ...no love for the current users ...again....g
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Well, I don't think anyone should be in a rush to update,
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/1...ague-galaxy-s4-galaxy-s3-galaxy-note-2-users/
Here is the 4.3 update from AT&T http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497994 :good:
jibust said:
Well, I don't think anyone should be in a rush to update,
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/1...ague-galaxy-s4-galaxy-s3-galaxy-note-2-users/
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No rush here brother. ..
I won't take it anyway. ..
The devs need some alone time with it first. ..g
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gregsarg said:
No rush here brother. ..
I won't take it anyway. ..
The devs need some alone time with it first. ..g
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I thought you only ran AOSP roms. Don't tell me you are cheating on AOSP with TW.
Att.Fan1982 said:
Here is the 4.3 update from AT&T http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497994 :good:
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An official 4.3 update is available now.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/12/17/atts-galaxy-note-ii-receiving-android-4-3-update-i317ucubmk6/
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I thought you only ran AOSP roms. Don't tell me you are cheating on AOSP with TW.
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Uh....gotta go....LOL
Update is failing... I think it's b/c I removed some Sammy bloat apps.
I've never had to go back to stock / unroot. Is there a guide? Is there a stock SGH-I317 UCAMC3 zip in this forum I can use with odin?
-J
(Yes, I searched a ton and only found some questionable non-xda guides.)
jdnyc said:
Update is failing... I think it's b/c I removed some Sammy bloat apps.
I've never had to go back to stock / unroot. Is there a guide? Is there a stock SGH-I317 UCAMC3 zip in this forum I can use with odin?
-J
(Yes, I searched a ton and only found some questionable non-xda guides.)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275844
figyu said:
An official 4.3 update is available now.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/12/17/atts-galaxy-note-ii-receiving-android-4-3-update-i317ucubmk6/
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I bet that "official" update won't have any note 3 spen features or multi window features integrated into it!
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Just got update on my GT-I9300 international version unlocked, got installed successfully but then apps started giving problem, crashing multiple time, unable to launch. So had to reset, works fine now.
One thing! I felt my phone was damn slow after the update.
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